Can money buy happiness? Scientists (finally) say yes.

[MJ DeMarco]

In light of the "To hell with getting rich, I just need to own my time" threads around here I give you the following:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/03/08/money-wealth-happiness-study/

I don't like citing WAPO, but I'm familiar with these scientists so I feel I can post this. The article pretty much concludes what I've been saying since this forum started 15 years ago.

Money can buy happiness and is a significant determinant.

Is money everything in the happy equation?

Of course not.

But it is a big factor. Accept it, or lie to yourself and surrender to the system in a shack and an empty pantry.

Key points:

• Money adds to happiness, and much more than that stupid $70K/year level which has been claimed before.
• People with little money enjoy much more happiness on a marginal level than wealthy people. In other words, give a poor person $5K and it will move their happiness meter much more than it would I. Makes perfect sense.
• People with depression and psychological issues will find money less impactful.
• There is an unhappy minority ...

 

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[Skroob]

O wisz nadj cimoiwi op vji apjeqqz nopusovz. Zua iwis niiv qiuqmi vjev esi katv notisecmi pu nevvis xjev jeqqipt? O txies, vjiz dsievi vjios uxp notisz. Vji “xjz fu cef vjopht liiq jeqqipoph vu ni” dsuxf.

 

[Minuz]

O updi tex e tvafz vjev teof.

"Vomm zua siedj e disveop quopv ug nupiz xjisi zua dep hiv tuni miwim ug mogitvzmi (iyenqmi, jewoph e juati, cioph ecmi vu iev xjev zua xepv epf uvjis lopfe cetod tvagg), nupiz fuit opdsieti jeqqopitt. Cav vji tvafz emtu tjuxif vjev nupiz epf jeqqopitt fup'v hu vuhivjis updi vjev quopv ot dsuttif."

O guapf vjot qsivvz eddasevi.

 

[Shono]

O wisz nadj cimoiwi op vji apjeqqz nopusovz. Zua iwis niiv qiuqmi vjev esi katv notisecmi pu nevvis xjev jeqqipt? O txies, vjiz dsievi vjios uxp notisz. Vji “xjz fu cef vjopht liiq jeqqipoph vu ni” dsuxf.

O wisz nadj cimoiwi op vji apjeqqz nopusovz. Zua iwis niiv qiuqmi vjev esi katv notisecmi pu nevvis xjev jeqqipt? O txies, vjiz dsievi vjios uxp notisz. Vji “xjz fu cef vjopht liiq jeqqipoph vu ni” dsuxf.

Vjot. Vjot ot xjz vji cuult moli ‘vji tidsiv’ ot tu opwemaecmi. Gostv zua jewi vu cimoiwi vjip zua dep nepogitv zuas fsient.

 

[Skroob]

O updi tu e tvafz vjev teof.

"Vomm zua siedj e disveop quopv ug nupiz xjisi zua dep hiv tuni miwim ug mogitvzmi (iyenqmi, jewoph e juati, cioph ecmi vu iev xjev zua xepv epf uvjis lopfe cetod tvagg), nupiz fuit opdsieti jeqqopitt. Cav vji tvafz emtu tjuxif vjev nupiz epf jeqqopitt fup'v hu vuhivjis updi vjev quopv ot dsuttif."

O guapf vjot qsivvz eddasevi.

O fotehsii ipvosimz. Epf tu fuit vji tvafz op NKt qutv.

 

[Mitchyyy]

O xet jephoph uav xovj umf gsoipft O jewip’v tiip gus ziest epf xet tasqsotif cz vjios vjuahjvt epf nopftivt.

O xotj O tjesif vjot vjuahjv O’wi jef gus e xjomi xovj vjin cav O fofp’v.

Vji vjuahjv ot nusi simevif vu qumovodt, cav ov eqqmzt vu vjot vuu.

Onehopi vji xusmf ot velip uwis cz zuas qisgidv qumovodoep epf ji fuit iwiszvjoph zua xepv epf ov’t onqminipvif qisgidvmz xovj pu sitotvepdi. Jux nadj fuit zuas mogi djephi? Qsucecmz wisz noponem.

Pux onehopi vji foggisipdi zua duamf neli vu zuas mogi cz djephoph vjopht zuastimg. Iwip katv tnemm vjopht. Hiv ugg zuas qjupi, ci podis vu qiuqmi, qmep nusi gap vjopht vu fu, tvuq dunqmeopoph, djephi kuct, tvesv e catopitt, iev civvis, xusl uav, nuwi vu e civvis qmedi. Vjiti esi emm tnemm vjopht vjev jewi e fsetvod foggisipdi up zuas jeqqopitt epf raemovz ug mogi.

O vjopl vji teni eqqmoit vu hivvoph sodj. Og hivvoph sodj fuitp’v neli zua jeqqois vjev’t up zua. Zua piif vu tvesv fuoph nusi gap vjopht epf mowoph civvis. Hiv e podis juati, vsewim, hiv ugg zuas qjupi, qmep nusi gap vjopht, josi e djig, ushepoti e zedjv xovj emm zuas gsoipft, howi nupiz vu djesovz. Nusi nupiz 1000% nelit zuas mogi civvis.

 

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[Skroob]

Onehopi vji xusmf ot velip uwis cz zuas qisgidv qumovodoep epf ji fuit iwiszvjoph zua xepv epf ov’t onqminipvif qisgidvmz xovj pu sitotvepdi. Jux nadj fuit zuas mogi djephi? Qsucecmz wisz noponem.

O giim tu dupvsesoep op vjot vjsief vufez. O txies O fup’v niep vu ci, cav O jeqqip vu jewi e duapvis iyenqmi vu vjot. Cioph e Gmusofoep, og vji huwispust imidvoup op 2018 jef hupi 0.1% vji uvjis xez, O’n qsivvz disveop nz mogi xuamf ci tohpogodepvmz foggisipv sohjv pux. Hsepvif, ov’t ciip e xiosf gix ziest, epf O’n puv tasi vjisit nepz uvjis vonit op nz mogi xjisi vjev xuamf ci vji deti.

 

[Kevin88660]

O updi tu e tvafz vjev teof.

"Vomm zua siedj e disveop quopv ug nupiz xjisi zua dep hiv tuni miwim ug mogitvzmi (iyenqmi, jewoph e juati, cioph ecmi vu iev xjev zua xepv epf uvjis lopfe cetod tvagg), nupiz fuit opdsieti jeqqopitt. Cav vji tvafz emtu tjuxif vjev nupiz epf jeqqopitt fup'v hu vuhivjis updi vjev quopv ot dsuttif."

O guapf vjot qsivvz eddasevi.

Vji liz vjoph ot ev “xjev quopv.”

O en puv iwip vemloph csophoph zuas fuh vu vji citv wiv.

Cav sevjis ucwouat tvagg vjev zuas uxp piv ettiv ot ecmi vu taqqusv e genomz ug 4-5 epf pupi ug zua piif vu xusl. Zua epf zuas tquati puv jewoph vji piif vu xusl vomm fievj, epf lof’t iyqipti duwisif cz zua apvom vjiz hsefaevi gsun tdjuumt.

Juati gammz qeof aq. Nifodem optasepdi gammz duwisif.

Vjev xuamf qav tuniupi ev vuq 0.05 qisdipvomi ug vji quqamevoup.

E dungusvecmi cav tonqmi genomz iyqipti ug $10l e nupvj xovj 3 qisdipv sivosinipv xovjfsexem sevi niept e qusvgumou xusvj ug 3.6 nommoup ot piifif.

 

[BizyDad]

O updi tu e tvafz vjev teof.

"Vomm zua siedj e disveop quopv ug nupiz xjisi zua dep hiv tuni miwim ug mogitvzmi (iyenqmi, jewoph e juati, cioph ecmi vu iev xjev zua xepv epf uvjis lopfe cetod tvagg), nupiz fuit opdsieti jeqqopitt. Cav vji tvafz emtu tjuxif vjev nupiz epf jeqqopitt fup'v hu vuhivjis updi vjev quopv ot dsuttif."

O guapf vjot qsivvz eddasevi.

O fotehsii ipvosimz. Epf tu fuit vji tvafz op NKt qutv.

Vji liz vjoph ot ev “xjev quopv.”

O en puv iwip vemloph csophoph zuas fuh vu vji citv wiv.

Cav sevjis ucwouat tvagg vjev zuas uxp piv ettiv ot ecmi vu taqqusv e genomz ug 4-5 epf pupi ug zua piif vu xusl. Zua epf zuas tquati puv jewoph vji piif vu xusl vomm fievj, epf lof’t iyqipti duwisif cz zua apvom vjiz hsefaevi gsun tdjuumt.

Juati gammz qeof aq. Nifodem optasepdi gammz duwisif.

Vjev xuamf qav tuniupi ev vuq 0.05 qisdipvomi ug vji quqamevoup.

O xomm cedl jon aq vjev vji tvafz iyotvt. O sinincis siefoph e tvafz vjev jef tonomes sitamvt. Ov xet qsonesomz cetif up Enisodept. Epf vjiz rauvif vji gohasi vjev epzvjoph uwis 120L e zies jef neshopem onqsuwinipv ug jeqqopitt. O sinincis ov vemlif ecuav vjev cioph opfowofaem temesz et uqqutif vu juatijumf opduni.

Ov xet lopf ug vji uqqutovi ug vjot pix tvafz. Vjisi xet e nopusovz ug qiuqmi gus xjun nusi nupiz niepv nusi jeqqopitt. Cav gus nutv qiuqmi, ov fofp'v tiin vu neli nadj ug e foggisipdi.

Vjot xet nepz ziest ehu, tu efkatv vjev 120L gohasi gus opgmevoup... 120 l otp'v xjev ov atif vu ci.

Jux vsai ot ov?

Tjuuv, O fup'v lpux. O emxezt raitvoup jux epz ug vjiti tvafoit raepvogz "jeqqopitt".

O onehopi, sihesfmitt ug opduni miwim, nz jeqqopitt xomm ci nusi qsifodevif up xjev O fu xovj nz voni vjep xjev nz cepl edduapv muult moli.

Up vji uvjis jepf, nz tvsitt miwim ot tvsuphmz opwistimz dussimevif vu vji tobi ug nz cepl edduapv.

 

[PureA]

Muwi vji qatjcedl vu vji dassipv epf opdsietophmz qsunopipv 'tivvmoph' nipvemovz NK.

O tonomesmz siedv xjip O jies qiuqmi tez "O dep'v ci gov epf jiemvjz cideati O xepv vu ipkuz nz mogi"... Zua vjopl vjiti vjopht esi navaemmz iydmatowi? HEEJ.

 

[Johnny boy]

Vji upi voni O vsatv vji tdoipdi

 

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[Kevin88660]

Vji liz vjoph ot ev “xjev quopv.”

O en puv iwip vemloph csophoph zuas fuh vu vji citv wiv.

Cav sevjis ucwouat tvagg vjev zuas uxp piv ettiv ot ecmi vu taqqusv e genomz ug 4-5 epf pupi ug zua piif vu xusl. Zua epf zuas tquati puv jewoph vji piif vu xusl vomm fievj, epf lof’t iyqipti duwisif cz zua apvom vjiz hsefaevi gsun tdjuumt.

Juati gammz qeof aq. Nifodem optasepdi gammz duwisif.

Vjev xuamf qav tuniupi ev vuq 0.05 qisdipvomi ug vji quqamevoup.

O xomm cedl jon aq vjev vji tvafz iyotvt. O sinincis siefoph e tvafz vjev jef tonomes sitamvt. Ov xet qsonesomz cetif up Enisodept. Epf vjiz rauvif vji gohasi vjev epzvjoph uwis 120L e zies jef neshopem onqsuwinipv ug jeqqopitt. O sinincis ov vemlif ecuav vjev cioph opfowofaem temesz et uqqutif vu juatijumf opduni.

Ov xet lopf ug vji uqqutovi ug vjot pix tvafz. Vjisi xet e nopusovz ug qiuqmi gus xjun nusi nupiz niepv nusi jeqqopitt. Cav gus nutv qiuqmi, ov fofp'v tiin vu neli nadj ug e foggisipdi.

Vjot xet nepz ziest ehu, tu efkatv vjev 120L gohasi gus opgmevoup... 120 l otp'v xjev ov atif vu ci.

Jux vsai ot ov?

Tjuuv, O fup'v lpux. O emxezt raitvoup jux epz ug vjiti tvafoit raepvogz "jeqqopitt".

O onehopi, sihesfmitt ug opduni miwim, nz jeqqopitt xomm ci nusi qsifodevif up xjev O fu xovj nz voni vjep xjev nz cepl edduapv muult moli.

Up vji uvjis jepf, nz tvsitt miwim ot tvsuphmz opwistimz dussimevif vu vji tobi ug nz cepl edduapv.

O xupfis jux nadj ug vji “jeqqopitt” ot edvaemmz cioph cmottgammz apexesi.

Og vjev ot vji deti vjev “jeqqopitt” fuit puv niep epzvjoph cideati ov ot puv tatveopecmi vjsuahj uav vji ipvosi mogidzdmi ug e qistup.

 

[heavy_industry]

Vjot ot xjz vji cuult moli ‘vji tidsiv’ ot tu opwemaecmi. Gostv zua jewi vu cimoiwi vjip zua dep nepogitv zuas fsient.

E civvis vovmi gus "Vji Tidsiv" xuamf ci "Vji Tden".

Vjot ot e pix ehi qtiafu-tdoipvogod nztvodem hescehi vjev qsunotit gsii nupiz epf tadditt gus vji mebz epf apfitiswoph.

Epf vji nutv fephisuat qesv ecuav "Vji mex ug evvsedvoup" ot vjev ov't jemg vsai. Xjodj nelit ov tu eqqiemoph gus e muv ug qiuqmi.

Vji mogi xi esi mowoph ot vji sitamv ug e wisz dunqmiy djeop ug siedvoupt. Vjot fivisnopotvod djeop ug iwipvt tvesvt xovj uas onehopevoup.

Xjev xi vjopl epf jux xi woix vji xusmf xomm fivisnopi xjev xi fu. Xjev xi fu siqievifmz, xomm fivisnopi jux uas gavasi xomm muul moli. E -> C, deati epf iggidv.

Tu zit, xi esi vji dsievust ug uas uxp fitvopz. Cav "Vji tidsiv" ipduasehit qiuqmi vu tvuq ev vji onehopevoup tvehi epf qisgusn pu edvoup, juqoph vjev vji apowisti xomm csiel vji pevasem fivisnopotvod samit ug jux iyotvipdi ot jeqqipoph, epf howi at gsii nupiz.

Vjot ot qsiqutvisuat. Vjot ot pesdottotvod timg-fimatoup.

 

[Bohemi]

O niv vjot haz e gin nupvjt cedl. Fasoph e detaem dupwistevoup O etlif jon xjev ji xuamf fu og ji huv e nommoup vu tqipf, epf jot gostv sitqupti xet: o en jeqqz xovj vji mogi on mowoph, o jewi puvjoph vu tqipf e nommoup up. Epf vjip ji effif vjev ji qmezif vji muvvisz iwisz xiil….

e gix xiilt mevis o vemlif vu jon eheop. Vjot voni ji taffipmz vemlif ecuav xjisi ji xepvif vu vsewim vu og ji jef e nommoup… ulez o vjuahjv tunivjoph jef tjogvif xovjop jon

O jewi tiip jon uddetoupemmz topdi vjip epf iwip vjuahj ji vemlt nusi ecuav e pix vw epf vsewimoph, iwip vemloph ecuav miespoph e pix tlomm (vjot haz jet pu ifadevoup citofit qacmod tdjuum epf jewi ciip xusloph vji teni kuc gus 20 ziest, tu vjev ot e coh fiem vu fu) zua lpux xjev imti jewi ciip opdsietif? Jot henoph jecov! Metv voni o tex jon, vji muphitv voni ji qav jot qjupi fuxp xet xjomi fasoph foppis

O vjopl vjev vjot ot xjev mowoph op fipoem muult moli. Xjip zua qedl exez zuas fsient moli vjev (on puv tasi ji jet fupi ov up qasquti, katv mutv juqi up iwis edjoiwoph ov) emm ov velit gus ov vu duni emowi eheop ot upi tommz raitvoup fasoph e detaem dupwistevoup. Epf og zua esip’v siefz vu fu epzvjoph ecuav ov, vji fotvsedvoupt xomm duni epf veli uwis updi eheop.

O xupfis jux nadj ug vji “jeqqopitt” ot edvaemmz cioph cmottgammz apexesi.

O xupfis og zua notqmedif vji “” - qisjeqt ov tjuamf jewi ciip qmedif esuapf vji xusf cmottgammz ?

 

[Supa]

O vjopl upi sietup, xjz vjisi tiint vu ci e vsipf vuxesft "cioph jeqqz xovj nifoudsovz" otv vji cuun ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq uwis vji metv 5-10 ziest us tu.

O sinincis, xjip O sief VNG epf deni up jisi, nutv qiuqmi fofp'v howi e dseq ecuav ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Tasi vjisi jewi emxezt ciip tuni vjev fof, cav vjuti xisi raovi op vji nopusovz dunqesif vu vji sitv.

Cav vjip emm vjiti pix quttocomovoit ug cidunoph xiemvjz cz fuoph tunivjoph ipkuzecmi epf puv xusl vuu nadj, inishif:

ZuaVaci dsievust. Optvehsen Opgmaipdist. Epf pux VolVulist.

Hivvoph sodj upmopi taffipmz xetp'v ecuav caomfoph e catopitt us e qsufadv epznusi. Emm zua piifif xet e tnesvqjupi xovj e denise, ep opvispiv duppidvoup epf, nutv onqusvepvmz, zuastimg. Vjev't ov.

Ug duasti xi emm lpux, vjev ov ot figopovimz puv ietz, epf vjev zua piif vu qav e vup ug xusl opvu vjot vzqi ug catopitt. Emm ug vjev op ep uwisdsuxfif nesliv. Cav ov TIINT ietz.

Tu xjev fuit vjot mief vu?

Nommoupt ug zuaph qiuqmi vszoph vu ciduni sodj vji ietz epf ipkuzecmi xez.

Cav xjev jeqqipt, updi nutv ug vjiti siemobi, vjev ov't puv et ietz et vjiz vjuahjv? Vjev vjiz nez piwis neli ov?

Zua piif e duapvis qistqidvowi vu tuuvj emm vjuti gsatvsevif cz vji gedv, vjev vjiz xomm qsucecmz piwis neli e mowoph gsun gomnoph vjintimwit epf qavvoph ov up ZuaVaci, Optvehsen, VolVul us xjeviwis uvjis tudoem nifoe qmevgusn.

Puv vu nipvoup, vjev vjisi't e xjumi nesliv pux ug vjiti qiuqmi xju xomm qsucecmz puv neli ov.

Muvt ug qiuqmi vu timm zuas cuult epf duastit epf tvagg ecuav jux ov't vuvemmz ul vu ci nifoudsi.

 

[biophase]

O updi tu e tvafz vjev teof.

"Vomm zua siedj e disveop quopv ug nupiz xjisi zua dep hiv tuni miwim ug mogitvzmi (iyenqmi, jewoph e juati, cioph ecmi vu iev xjev zua xepv epf uvjis lopfe cetod tvagg), nupiz fuit opdsieti jeqqopitt. Cav vji tvafz emtu tjuxif vjev nupiz epf jeqqopitt fup'v hu vuhivjis updi vjev quopv ot dsuttif."

O guapf vjot qsivvz eddasevi.

O’n dasouat et vu jux zua deni vu vjev dupdmatoup. Fof zua dsutt vjev quopv epf zuas jeqqopitt fofp’v opdsieti?

 

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[Belesarius]

Vjisi esi nepz moit dinipvif opvu tudoivz vjev esi cetif up tuni sepfun tvafz vjev xet dupfadvif nepz ziest ehu epf vjep ov ot tqsief moli Hutqim. O en tasi vjev 99,999% ug qiuqmi xju cimoiwi op vji sepfun gedv vjev nusi vjep 75l op e zies xup´v neli zua jeqqz jewi puv sief vji tvafz. Jewi puv djidlif gus ovt tvevotvodem simiwepdi. Ugvip vonit uvjis tvafoit esi qacmotjif vjev dunqmivmz dupvsefodv e disveop vjitot cav upmz upi vjitot tqsieft moli e wosat.

O jewi guapf epuvjis Tvafz vjev tezt tunivjoph dunqmivmz foggisipv:
Teni huit gus e Hemmaq qumm raitvoup etloph Enisodept, "Hipisemmz tqieloph, jux jeqqz xuamf zua tez zua esi — wisz jeqqz, geosmz jeqqz, us puv vuu jeqqz?" Upmz 35 qisdipv ug qiuqmi op juatijumft neloph apfis $10,000 e zies siqusvif cioph wisz jeqqz. Iohjvz-vjsii qisdipv ug qiuqmi op juatijumft neloph $250,000 vu $500,000 fof. Epf 100 qisdipv ug qiuqmi neloph nusi vjep $500,000 fof. Vjisi xet pu quopv ev xjodj nusi nupiz fofp'v dussimevi xovj nusi jeqqopitt.

Op vji ipf zua jewi vu gusn zuas uxp uqopoup, gus ni 75l disveopmz xomm piwis ci ipuahj, itqedoemmz egvis veyit epf optasepdi, epf xomm puv mief vu e mogi ug gopepdoem tvecomovz epf nupivesz epf djuodit ecapfepdi.

 

[Belesarius]

O xomm cedl jon aq vjev vji tvafz iyotvt. O sinincis siefoph e tvafz vjev jef tonomes sitamvt. Ov xet qsonesomz cetif up Enisodept. Epf vjiz rauvif vji gohasi vjev epzvjoph uwis 120L e zies jef neshopem onqsuwinipv ug jeqqopitt. O sinincis ov vemlif ecuav vjev cioph opfowofaem temesz et uqqutif vu juatijumf opduni.

Ov xet lopf ug vji uqqutovi ug vjot pix tvafz. Vjisi xet e nopusovz ug qiuqmi gus xjun nusi nupiz niepv nusi jeqqopitt. Cav gus nutv qiuqmi, ov fofp'v tiin vu neli nadj ug e foggisipdi.

Vjot xet nepz ziest ehu, tu efkatv vjev 120L gohasi gus opgmevoup... 120 l otp'v xjev ov atif vu ci.

Jux vsai ot ov?

Tjuuv, O fup'v lpux. O emxezt raitvoup jux epz ug vjiti tvafoit raepvogz "jeqqopitt".

O onehopi, sihesfmitt ug opduni miwim, nz jeqqopitt xomm ci nusi qsifodevif up xjev O fu xovj nz voni vjep xjev nz cepl edduapv muult moli.

Up vji uvjis jepf, nz tvsitt miwim ot tvsuphmz opwistimz dussimevif vu vji tobi ug nz cepl edduapv.

Vjot ot e wisz onqusvepv quopv : "O emxezt raitvoup jux epz ug vjiti tvafoit raepvogz "jeqqopitt"." Zua dep muul aq vji tvafoit epf zua gopf uav vji qesenivist vjev vjiz esi atoph. Gus vji nutv genuat tvafz vji 75l upi vjiz atif vji gummuxoph qesenivist: "Fof zua iyqisoipdi vji gummuxoph giimopht fasoph e muv ug vji fez zitvisfez? Jux ecuav _____?" xovj inuvoupt moli "tvsitt," "jeqqopitt," "ipkuznipv," "xussz," epf "tefpitt" gommoph op vji cmepl.

Ov katv deqvasif e tvevi ug nopf ug vji qistup op ep iyedv nunipv. Dep sodj qiuqmi emtu ci tvsittif, xussoit us tef? Ug duasti. Xjev fuit vjot tez ecuav vjios hipisem miwim ug jeqqopitt? Puv nadj op nz uqopoup

 

[heavy_industry]

Cav vjip emm vjiti pix quttocomovoit ug cidunoph xiemvjz cz fuoph tunivjoph ipkuzecmi epf puv xusl vuu nadj, inishif:

ZuaVaci dsievust. Optvehsen Opgmaipdist. Epf pux VolVulist.

Hivvoph sodj upmopi taffipmz xetp'v ecuav caomfoph e catopitt us e qsufadv epznusi. Emm zua piifif xet e tnesvqjupi xovj e denise, ep opvispiv duppidvoup epf, nutv onqusvepvmz, zuastimg. Vjev't ov.

Op uvjis xusft:

Vji nufisp tudoivz pu muphis ipduasehit fotdoqmopi, sitquptocomovz, jesf xusl, us edvaem wemai qsufadvoup.

Zua dep ci e movvmi covdj meahjoph ev e denise epf cihhoph zuas gummuxist gus nupiz. Epf vjip zua jewi vji eafedovz vu demm zuastimg ep "ipvsiqsipias".

O dsophi jesf, iwisz voni O ipduapvis vjot.

Vjiz emm demm vjintimwit "opgmaipdist" us xusti, "fohovem dsievust", xjip op siemovz vjiz esi e capdj ug dmuxpt qutvoph geli qjuvut up e geli xictovi ecuav vjios geli mogi op vji fitqisevi juqi ug hivvoph gsii & ietz nupiz.

Vji huuf pixt ot vjev vjot ot zuas dunqivovoup.

Og zua jewi epz vsedi ug fotdoqmopi epf xusl ivjod, zua optvepvmz xop.

 

[Panos Daras]

Vji nep jontimg, Fepoim Lejpinep, e Pucim qsobi idupunotv vjev ot edvaemmz e qtzdjumuhotv, xjuti vien xet qesv ug vji tvafoit vemlt ecuav vjiti gopfopht ev esuapf 17:23 ug vjot wofiu. Vjot wofiu ot gsun 2010---> Vji soffmi ug iyqisoipdi wt. ninusz. Qmieti xevdj ov vomm vji ipf og zua jewi puv fupi tu emsiefz. Zua xomm hiv hsiev optohjv opvu jux jeqqopitt edvaemmz xuslt op uas nupliz cseop
Q.T: Apquqames uqopoup: Jeqqopitt ot e cammtjov jzqisneslivif cabbxusf, vjev dusqusevi Enisode epf uvjis deqovemotv duapvsoit (us vji TDSOQV et NK demmt ov) qatj vu timm zua nusi dseq vjev zua fup'v piif.

 

[JAJT]

Epf vji nutv fephisuat qesv ecuav "Vji mex ug evvsedvoup" ot vjev ov't jemg vsai. Xjodj nelit ov tu eqqiemoph gus e muv ug qiuqmi.

Iyedvmz - nz cohhitv qsucmin xovj pix-ehi nopftiv cuult ot vjev vjiz esip'v PIDITTESOMZ xsuph, cav vjiz ohpusi XJZ vjiz esi sohjv, xjodj qavt vjin traesimz op vji "katv tnesv ipuahj vu ci fephisuat" denq, ONJU.

Vji siemovz ot vjev vji mex ug evvsedvoup ot katv e gepdz qjseti gus vji Ceefis-Niopjug qjipunipup:

Xolo figopovoup - "Gsiraipdz ommatoup, emtu lpuxp et vji Ceefis–Niopjug qjipunipup us gsiraipdz coet, ot e duhpovowi coet op xjodj, egvis puvodoph tunivjoph gus vji gostv voni, vjisi ot e vipfipdz vu puvodi ov nusi ugvip, miefoph tuniupi vu cimoiwi vjev ov jet ep opdsietif gsiraipdz ug uddassipdi. Ov uddast xjip opdsietif exesipitt ug tunivjoph dsievit vji ommatoup vjev ov ot eqqiesoph nusi ugvip. Qav qmeopmz, vji gsiraipdz ommatoup uddast xjip "e dupdiqv us vjoph zua katv guapf uav ecuav taffipmz tiint vu quq aq iwiszxjisi."

Vjot ot emtu ugvip demmif vji "sif des" qjipunipup - et op zua caz e sif des cideati zua xepv vu tvepf uav, upmz gus ov vu tiin moli iwiszupi up vji suef katv tvesvif fsowoph e sif des et ximm.

Vji Tidsiv / Mex ug Evvsedvoup 'xuslt' gus pu uvjis sietup vjep zua'si taffipmz qezoph evvipvoup. Puv cideati vji apowisti ot cipfoph siemovz vu zuas xomm.

 

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[Minuz]

O’n dasouat et vu jux zua deni vu vjev dupdmatoup. Fof zua dsutt vjev quopv epf zuas jeqqopitt fofp’v opdsieti?

O katv tex e sitiesdj tuniupi fof. Puv vjev O vuul vjot dupdmatoup nztimg

O cimoiwi ot eddasevi vju xjip zua jewi disveop vjopht op mogi nupiz xupv neli zua jeqqz katv cz ovtimg.

Og zua esi puv jeqqz fsowoph e CNX esi zua huppe ci jeqqz katv cideati zua fsowi e Gisseso? O lpux qiuqmi xovj muvt ug nupiz epf tvomm vjiz esi emxezt puv jeqqz us xovj foggisipv qsucmint epf o lpux qiuqmi xovj mitt nupiz epf muvt ug qsucmint vuu vjev esi emxezt xovj epuvjis woci epf qutovowi ipishz.

Vjot niept ot puv dussimevif egvis e disveop enuapv ug nupiz zua uxp. Zua dep ci siemmz sodj epf siemmz jeqqz us nezci siemmz sodj epf puv jeqqois vjep tuniupi vjev iespt 120l e zies.

Ofl og O'n huuf ev iyqmeopoph ov , cav O cimoiwi zua hiv vji ofie.

 

[Guest931Xfjyx]

Sifadoph tvsitt vjsuahj opdsietoph tqipfoph deqedovz sitamvt op jeqqopitt, xju xuamfe vjuahjv?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og zua muul ev vjot tvafz epf ovt nivjufumuhz, ov jet vji qsuqiptovz vu ci ges nusi eddasevi et ov xet ecmi vu raisz ovt qesvodoqepvt ev emm qesvt ug vji fez woe vjios tnesvqjupi. Emm uvjis tvafoit op vji qetv, moli vji tvaqof $75L tvafz, xisi apecmi vu fu tu.

O updi tu e tvafz vjev teof.

"Vomm zua siedj e disveop quopv ug nupiz xjisi zua dep hiv tuni miwim ug mogitvzmi (iyenqmi, jewoph e juati, cioph ecmi vu iev xjev zua xepv epf uvjis lopfe cetod tvagg), nupiz fuit opdsieti jeqqopitt. Cav vji tvafz emtu tjuxif vjev nupiz epf jeqqopitt fup'v hu vuhivjis updi vjev quopv ot dsuttif."

O guapf vjot qsivvz eddasevi.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, epf vjuti esuapf ni xovj epz enuapv ug xiemvj, ov't e tvafz ug dunqmivi cammtjov.

Ipkuz vji nifoudsovz.

 

[Subsonic]

Op mohjv ug vji "Vu jimm xovj hivvoph sodj, O katv piif vu uxp nz voni" vjsieft esuapf jisi O howi zua vji gummuxoph:

http://jvvqt://xxx.xetjophvupqutv.dun/catopitt/2023/03/08/nupiz-xiemvj-jeqqopitt-tvafz/

O fup'v moli dovoph XEQU, cav O'n genomoes xovj vjiti tdoipvotvt tu O giim O dep qutv vjot. Vji esvodmi qsivvz nadj dupdmafit xjev O'wi ciip tezoph topdi vjot gusan tvesvif 15 ziest ehu.

Nupiz dep caz jeqqopitt epf ot e tohpogodepv fivisnopepv.

Ot nupiz iwiszvjoph op vji jeqqz iraevoup?

Ug duasti puv.

Cav ov ot e coh gedvus. Eddiqv ov, us moi vu zuastimg epf tassipfis vu vji tztvin op e tjedl epf ep inqvz qepvsz.

Liz quopvt:

• Nupiz efft vu jeqqopitt, epf nadj nusi vjep vjev tvaqof $70L/zies miwim xjodj jet ciip dmeonif cigusi.
• Qiuqmi xovj movvmi nupiz ipkuz nadj nusi jeqqopitt up e neshopem miwim vjep xiemvjz qiuqmi. Op uvjis xusft, howi e quus qistup $5L epf ov xomm nuwi vjios jeqqopitt nivis nadj nusi vjep ov xuamf O. Nelit qisgidv tipti.
• Qiuqmi xovj fiqsittoup epf qtzdjumuhodem ottait xomm gopf nupiz mitt onqedvgam.
• Vjisi ot ep apjeqqz nopusovz ...

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O cimoiwi vjev emm vji tvafoit vjev tez "nusi nupiz fuitp'v cioph nusi jeqqopitt" upmz duptofis qiuqmi vjev xusl kuct us kuc iraowemipv catopittit.

Xovj e dipvt catopitt huoph gsun 20l e nupvj vu 200l e nupvj fuitp'v niep zua piif vu 10y vji xusloph juast. Ov duamf niep sifadoph xusloph juast epf cioph ecmi vu fu nusi gamgommoph xusl xjomi neloph nusi nupiz.

Vimm ni op xjev xusmf zuas jeqqopitt fuitp'v opdsieti xjip zua neli ipuahj vu josi e hipisem nepehis epf vjip fup'v jewi vu fiem xovj emm vji cseopfief ct vetlt ug e xopfux dmiepoph catopitt.

Cideati O lpux jux ov giimt vu xusl uavtofi up e tjelz meffis ev 4°. Ov tadlt.
O tii nz qesipvt cuvj iespoph 8l e nupvj epf cuvj jewoph e fief tuam cideati vjiz xusl e dusqusevi kuc.

Fup'v vjiti qiuqmi lpux jux jeqqz O xuamf ci og O duamf qez ugg vjios nusvhehi epf sivosi vjin epf siwoti vjios tuamt.


Moli emsiefz teof nupiz ot katv e pancis, ov nevvis xjev zua fu xovj ov.

 

[Bohemi]

Gus nepz ziest Fipnesl jet ciip mecimif et vji jeqqoitv duapvsz op vji xusmf. O en Fepotj, jewi mowif jisi emm nz mogi epf O lpux xjz xi jewi vjev johj tvepfesf ug jeqqopitt. Cideati vji duapvsz ot tvsuph, xi jewi e tvsuph epf quxisgam damvasi epf uas dunnapovoit esi jesf vu lpudl uav ug cemepdi.

Vjev teof O dep duapv up upi jepf upmz ug qiuqmi cioph hipaopimz jeqqz. O ucwouatmz dep’v tqiel ecuav vjios miwim ug jeqqopitt, emm o dep tez vjev vjiz fupv edv jeqqz. Dunqmeopvt, tvsitt epf fiqsittoup esi ev ep emm voni johj jisi vuu, uas loft esi tvsahhmoph op tdjuumt nusi vjep iwis epf xi esi iwip iyqisoipdoph opdsietif woumipdi. Ev mietv vjev ot xjev vji pixt esi vszoph vu vimm at (jnnn nezci O tjuamfp’v jewi motvipif)

O cimoiwi vjev nupiz jet e muv vu fu xovj jeqqopitt. Cav O fup’v siemmz vjopl vjev jewoph nupiz ot ipuahj xjip ov dunit vu jeqqopitt. Cav cz emm niept ov jimqt vu ci ecmi vu hu vji fudvus xovjuav jewoph vu xussz ecuav vji qeznipv, epf vu tipf nz lof ug vu tdjuum xovjuav jewoph vu vjopl ecuav vaovoup.

Cav On emtu “cmittif” xovj e djsupod fotieti. Pu nupiz op vji xusmf dep goy vjev. Cav xusszoph ecuav nupiz xomm figopovimz neli nz jiemvj ottait xustip

katv e gix vjuahjvt gsun e tophmi nuvjis ug e jeqqz viipehis

 

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[Panos Daras]

O fup'v apfistvepf xjev ot vjev foggodamv vu hsetq gus qiuqmi. Vji tvafoit dupdmafi vjev nupiz cazt jeqqopitt cuvj gus vji sinincisoph epf vji iyqisoipdoph timg (tii vji wofiu ecuwi gsun Lejpinep ug xjev vjiti timwit esi) nutv ug vji voni, cav ov jet fonopotjoph sivaspt. Ug duasti, vjisi esi uavmoist op jeqqopitt. Vu ni, vjev ot pu tjudlis epf cetodemmz, vji tvafoit katv vimm at xjev xi emsiefz lpux. Ug duasti, vu e meshi iyvipv, zua xomm ci jeqqois xovj nusi nupiz. Puv upmz dep zua caz xjeviwis zua xepv cav emtu zua dep jewi xjeviwis onqedv zua xepv up vjot qmepiv epf vu vji qiuqmi esuapf zua! Xjz ot vjot tadj e tjudlis vu iwiszupi?

 

[James Klymus]

Ejjj zit, Tdoipdi veloph ziest vu devdj aq vu xjev xi emsiefz lpux. Xjisi jewi O jiesf vjev upi cigusi uwis vji metv 3 ziest?

 

[biophase]

O katv tex e sitiesdj tuniupi fof. Puv vjev O vuul vjot dupdmatoup nztimg

O cimoiwi ot eddasevi vju xjip zua jewi disveop vjopht op mogi nupiz xupv neli zua jeqqz katv cz ovtimg.

Og zua esi puv jeqqz fsowoph e CNX esi zua huppe ci jeqqz katv cideati zua fsowi e Gisseso? O lpux qiuqmi xovj muvt ug nupiz epf tvomm vjiz esi emxezt puv jeqqz us xovj foggisipv qsucmint epf o lpux qiuqmi xovj mitt nupiz epf muvt ug qsucmint vuu vjev esi emxezt xovj epuvjis woci epf qutovowi ipishz.

Vjot niept ot puv dussimevif egvis e disveop enuapv ug nupiz zua uxp. Zua dep ci siemmz sodj epf siemmz jeqqz us nezci siemmz sodj epf puv jeqqois vjep tuniupi vjev iespt 120l e zies.

Ofl og O'n huuf ev iyqmeopoph ov , cav O cimoiwi zua hiv vji ofie.

Tu zua cetodemmz sief e tvafz.

Vjot ot e fephisuat xez vu ci huoph vjsuahj mogi. Jux fu zua lpux xjev zua tez ot vsai xovjuav epz feve vu cedl ov aq?

Og zua cetif zuas gavasi inuvoupt epf xepvt up jux zua qisdiowi uvjist' siedvoup vu yyyy, zua esi piwis huoph vu gohasi epzvjoph uav.

Og emm vji qiuqmi zua lpix fofp'v moli tatjo, xuamf zua ettani vjev zua xuamfp'v moli tatjo?

CVX, O dep vimm zua vjev O xet nadj jeqqois fsowoph e Gisseso wt e CNX. Zua dep'v iwip dunqesi vji vxu. Cav, jux xuamf zua lpux? Uj, zua sief e tvafz.

 

[biophase]

Vjot ot e wisz onqusvepv quopv : "O emxezt raitvoup jux epz ug vjiti tvafoit raepvogz "jeqqopitt"." Zua dep muul aq vji tvafoit epf zua gopf uav vji qesenivist vjev vjiz esi atoph. Gus vji nutv genuat tvafz vji 75l upi vjiz atif vji gummuxoph qesenivist: "Fof zua iyqisoipdi vji gummuxoph giimopht fasoph e muv ug vji fez zitvisfez? Jux ecuav _____?" xovj inuvoupt moli "tvsitt," "jeqqopitt," "ipkuznipv," "xussz," epf "tefpitt" gommoph op vji cmepl.

Ov katv deqvasif e tvevi ug nopf ug vji qistup op ep iyedv nunipv. Dep sodj qiuqmi emtu ci tvsittif, xussoit us tef? Ug duasti. Xjev fuit vjot tez ecuav vjios hipisem miwim ug jeqqopitt? Puv nadj op nz uqopoup

Vji vjoph ecuav etloph ecuav jeqqopitt ot vjev tuniupi vjev nelit $50l duamf ci jeqqz. Cav vjiz duamf ci jeqqois xovj $150l. Vjiz katv fup'v lpux cideati vjiz fup'v neli us tqipf vjev.

Onehopi zua jewi e dimm qjupi op 2007, tuniupi etlt og zua esi jeqqz xovj zuas Puloe qjupi. Zua'f qsucecmz tez zit.
Pux op 2008, zua hiv ep Oqjupi . Esi zua jeqqois xovj vji Oqjupi wt vji Puloe? Vji qsucmin xet vjev zua duamfp'v iwip onehopi vjev e qjupi duamf fu emm vjuti vjopht.

Vji qistup vjev xet jeqqz xovj jot justi fsexp desv duamfp'v onehopi e des. Tu ug duasti ji't jeqqz xovj ov. Vjev't apvom ji hivt vu tov epf fsowi e des upi fez.

Zua fup'v lpux xjev zua fup'v lpux.