You don't need a website, you need sales

[evlttwin]

 

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[Andy Black]

How do you not pay for product until it sells?

Get paid first?

 

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[shubham525]

Totally agreed.

 

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[John D.]

Great argument. Some people get hung up on the bells and whistles and don't start until they have the perfect website.

I'm doing freelance copywriting and I only have a rudimentary Google Doc to show to prospective clients. It looks like something a 9-year-old could've come up with in half an hour. (Is it me or are kids getting smarter these days?)

And guess what? They don't mind. All they care is samples of my work to see if I'm walking the talk.

All I do is focus on outreach.

 

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[LittleWolfie]

I have been talking to an author regarding their need for websites.

They don't want sales. They do it via Amazon. The purpose fo their website is to provide somewhere to keep in touch with their fans and build a community they control away from Facebook/LinkedIn etc.

They are more interested in traction than $.

 

[Thiago Machado]

 

[Mr_Maravish]

hahah this is funny.

Andy,

What do you suggest to come up with some good copy for an ecommerce website. I am in the process of creating the content and boy is it tough.

 

[Angelic]

Okay well what if you are getting a steady number of sales. How does one transition to making sales on a website, assuming this is a product which can be sold on a website?

 

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[Andy Black]

Maybe a stupid question as your post seems more about the philosophy of stop procrastinating and just do it already but...what if your business or business idea is a website (say through shopify or volusion) selling something in particular that lends itself to that medium? Wouldn't that constitute needing a website?

I’d say the business isn’t a website, and that shopify is just a way *how* you’re selling your product to someone. You could start by selling without building the shopify store first.

 

[Dianne Cohen]

I used to be that person. "I need to be the expert before I...." Now I internally laugh when I hear people doing the same type of behavior. And I hear it so often.

 

[Ernman]

I couldn't agree more. For the last two years I've been making sales DESPITE my website, NOT because of it.

Now I must admit that I had fun learning how to use WORDPRESS and WOO Commerce and have recently done a major overhaul of my website. BUT, I never believed for one minute that I NEEDED that website to get started. It is a tool in my tool box along with many others.

 

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[kkompoti]

make this a gold thread!

 

[JokerCrazyBeatz]

I've been self-employed for 15 years. I've never had a business card but people have been asking me for them a lot in the last couple of weeks. I went for a simple card with my name, email address, and phone number on the front.

Below is a picture of what's on the back. It's been my calling card when I speak to people for many years. It makes sense to make it my actual calling card.

that's so fire ! I love it

 

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[Jamshed33]

I would like to keep my eyes here.

 

[RobD88]

(drops mic)

Maybe a stupid question as your post seems more about the philosophy of stop procrastinating and just do it already but...what if your business or business idea is a website (say through shopify or volusion) selling something in particular that lends itself to that medium? Wouldn't that constitute needing a website?

 

[RobD88]

I’d say the business isn’t a website, and that shopify is just a way *how* you’re selling your product to someone. You could start by selling without building the shopify store first.

Understood and totally get your point. Without a ton of money to invest into inventory I'm working on a drop ship model where I don't carry or pay for the product until it sells. While the business isn't a website, it is providing something of value to the marketplace that people are willing to pay for, I do need a channel with which to market the value. Do you have any suggestions on an alternate means of reaching customers.

(Of course this is just the start of my empire and first true business venture. I have plans for additional products that I would physically develop and stock.)

 

[Isaac Odongo]

We've sold a dozen landing pages in the past year - without a landing page to sell them from.

Just found that amusing...

Firstly, I love this thread.

A couple guys fake action designing business cards and websites, actually hiring people to do it for them.

And they say they need them.

Making custom t-shirt,

Designing flyers,

Making banners.

Filling the radio with ads.

 

[Michael Ankrah]

Firstly, I love this thread.

A couple guys fake action designing business cards and websites, actually hiring people to do it for them.

And they say they need them.

Making custom t-shirt,

Designing flyers,

Making banners.

Filling the radio with ads.

Ok sir @Andy Black what are some threads on here that one can actually read to get better at sales especially for a beginner doing web design

 

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[Andy Black]

Ok sir @Andy Black what are some threads on here that one can actually read to get better at sales especially for a beginner doing web design

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[Woodsman81]

Understood and totally get your point. Without a ton of money to invest into inventory I'm working on a drop ship model where I don't carry or pay for the product until it sells.

How do you not pay for product until it sells?

 

[Andy Black]

Bump.

 

[DavidePaco00]

Are you referring to... having landing pages only (and driving quality traffic to those landing pages) , and not necessarily having (or needing) a home site (to obtain sales)?

Yes I was wondering the same thing.
I think It depends mostly on having a single product or multi product store.

What do You think?

 

[Andy Black]

Ok sir @Andy Black what are some threads on here that one can actually read to get better at sales especially for a beginner doing web design

Oh, and you might get some ideas from this thread too:

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