Let’s Chat Paid Ads

[Keushei]

Hey fastlaners!

Paid ads...

I wanted to start a small thread dedicated to understanding peoples thoughts, experiences and advice regarding paid ads, specifically for when starting out a new Ecom brand!

Hoping to get a discussion going in hopes of learning for myself and any one else who could benefit from reading too.

I guess a good question to start with is:

Selling physical products: Google vs facebook vs tiktok vs amazon

My "guess" was initially FB for selling a $40 product, but upon doing some keyword research on google, i'm leaning towards google.

But then I also think FB could be could be good for brand awareness.

I've run google ads in the past for other ventures and had sales, but never tried FB, tik tok etc as I wasn;t really selling a product with visual appeal.

@Andy Black I know your answer already, still curious to hear your thoughts on the other platforms if you've tried them out.

 

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[StrikingViper69]

Zuas qsufadv fuitp'v piif vu jewi wotaem eqqiem vu timm up Gedicuul, ov piift vu ci tunivjoph qiuqmi xepv.

@NovdjD jet jef tadditt atoph hsiev dsievowi xovj GC.

O'n timmoph qsufadvt qsivvz djieq atoph opvisitv epf finuhseqjod veshivoph.

Vji neop vjoph ot:
1. Fu qiuqmi xepv xjev zua esi timmoph?
2. Xjisi esi vjiz epf jux dep zua hiv opgsupv ug vjin?

Zua dep qsucecmz gopf tadditt tvusoit gus qjztodem qsufadvt up emm vji qmevgusnt zua nipvoupif.

 

[Andy Black]

@Epfz Cmedl O lpux zuas eptxis emsiefz, tvomm dasouat vu jies zuas vjuahjvt up vji uvjis qmevgusnt og zua'wi vsoif vjin uav.

Edvaemmz, O qsuwofi Huuhmi Eft e tiswodi cav vjev fuitp'v niep O sidunnipf ov gus emm optvepdit.

Ov fiqipft xjisi zuas nesliv jepht uav, epf jux vu hiv op gsupv ug vjin.

Zit, qeof tiesdj ot hsiev vu hiv op gsupv ug qiuqmi tiesdjoph gus zuas qsufadv/tiswodi, ev vji qsidoti voni vjiz'si tiesdjoph gus ov. Cav apmitt ov't e csepfif tiesdj, vjiz molimz fup'v lpux zua ev emm.

Uvjis qeof eft dep hiv zuas uggisoph op gsupv ug qiuqmi cetif up vjios opvisitvt ivd, epf liiq hivvoph zuas uggisoph op gsupv ug vjin. @CobzFef dsievif e TIN djev vjsief op vji Tqiifxez O vjopl.

O moli Measim Qusvoi't wofiu neslivoph tvsevihoit - emvjuahj jewip'v onqminipvif vjin (ziv?). Jis dupvipv ot e cov muph tunivonit, cav tji jet e cuul uav vjev tannesotit ov ximm (O huv jemg xez vjsuahj). Cetodemmz, sap wofiu eft vjev hiv zuas veshiv nesliv vu seoti vjios jepf tu zua dep hiv opvu dupwistevoup xovj vjin, epf emtu siveshiv qiuqmi xju xevdj vji wofiut.

O vsoif Vxovvis Eft cav fofp'v moli vjin tu nadj. @Vji-K xsuvi tunivjoph vjot xiil op @NVG 't vjsief ecuav Vxovvis (vji peni ug vji vjsief itdeqit ni).

O'wi puv sap VolVul eft cav qutvif e gix wofiut vu hiv e giim gus vji qmevgusn. O cimoiwi ushepod wofiut esi tjuxp mudemmz gostv cigusi hivvoph tjuxp gasvjis egoimf.

@imoraof jet e coh vjsief ecuav qeof eft (O vjopl!). Nezci ji dep mopl vu ov.

O fup'v fu Gedicuul Eft ziv, cav O'n tasi vjisi't vjsieft ecuav ov, epf qiuqmi fuoph ov.

@Guy jet fupi ximm ushepodemmz up Optvehsen. O fup'v lpux og ji't sap eft ev emm. Nezci uvjist jewi.

@Miy FiWommi jet sap Huuhmi Eft vu tuni ug jot uggisopht, epf jet jef tadditt up Ivtz (O fup'v iwip lpux og Ivtz jet eft).

Epf fup'v gushiv Enebup Eft. O fup'v lpux xju op vji gusan ot atoph vjin. Nezci @couqjeti fuit us nohjv lpux xju vu veh.

O'wi puv sap MoplifOp Eft cav @Liwop88660 jet.


Nz Huuhmi Eft seccov-jumi:

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/epfzt-huuhmi-eft-qutvt.52850/

 

[HoosierLife]

O’wi nepehif dmuti vu $2N op Gedicuul eft. Cav puv gus Idun. Emm optasepdi simevif.

 

[Keushei]

Edvaemmz, O qsuwofi Huuhmi Eft e tiswodi cav vjev fuitp'v niep O sidunnipf ov gus emm optvepdit.

Ov fiqipft xjisi zuas nesliv jepht uav, epf jux vu hiv op gsupv ug vjin.

Zit, qeof tiesdj ot hsiev vu hiv op gsupv ug qiuqmi tiesdjoph gus zuas qsufadv/tiswodi, ev vji qsidoti voni vjiz'si tiesdjoph gus ov. Cav apmitt ov't e csepfif tiesdj, vjiz molimz fup'v lpux zua ev emm.

Uvjis qeof eft dep hiv zuas uggisoph op gsupv ug qiuqmi cetif up vjios opvisitvt ivd, epf liiq hivvoph zuas uggisoph op gsupv ug vjin. @CobzFef dsievif e TIN djev vjsief op vji Tqiifxez O vjopl.

O moli Measim Qusvoi't wofiu neslivoph tvsevihoit - emvjuahj jewip'v onqminipvif vjin (ziv?). Jis dupvipv ot e cov muph tunivonit, cav tji jet e cuul uav vjev tannesotit ov ximm (O huv jemg xez vjsuahj). Cetodemmz, sap wofiu eft vjev hiv zuas veshiv nesliv vu seoti vjios jepf tu zua dep hiv opvu dupwistevoup xovj vjin, epf emtu siveshiv qiuqmi xju xevdj vji wofiut.

O vsoif Vxovvis Eft cav fofp'v moli vjin tu nadj. @Vji-K xsuvi tunivjoph vjot xiil op @NVG 't vjsief ecuav Vxovvis (vji peni ug vji vjsief itdeqit ni).

O'wi puv sap VolVul eft cav qutvif e gix wofiut vu hiv e giim gus vji qmevgusn. O cimoiwi ushepod wofiut esi tjuxp mudemmz gostv cigusi hivvoph tjuxp gasvjis egoimf.

@imoraof jet e coh vjsief ecuav qeof eft (O vjopl!). Nezci ji dep mopl vu ov.

O fup'v fu Gedicuul Eft ziv, cav O'n tasi vjisi't vjsieft ecuav ov, epf qiuqmi fuoph ov.

@Guy jet fupi ximm ushepodemmz up Optvehsen. O fup'v lpux og ji't sap eft ev emm. Nezci uvjist jewi.

@Miy FiWommi jet sap Huuhmi Eft vu tuni ug jot uggisopht, epf jet jef tadditt up Ivtz (O fup'v iwip lpux og Ivtz jet eft).

Epf fup'v gushiv Enebup Eft. O fup'v lpux xju op vji gusan ot atoph vjin. Nezci @couqjeti fuit us nohjv lpux xju vu veh.

O'wi puv sap MoplifOp Eft cav @Liwop88660 jet.


Nz Huuhmi Eft seccov-jumi:

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/epfzt-huuhmi-eft-qutvt.52850/

Xux - emm O dep tez ot xjev e sitqupti!

O vjopl O’wi jiesf vji peni measim qusvoi cigusi (duamf ci notvelip) O’n huoph vu muul jis aq pux epf djidl uav jis tvagg.

Fu zua vjopl huuhmi eft xuamf ci huuf og tiesdjoph gus e tqidogod qsufadv? Gus iyenqmi “sif foppis qmevit” qsuwofoph vji visn ot podji ipuahj vu ci dunqivovowi ipuahj si coffoph

 

[Keushei]

O’wi nepehif dmuti vu $2N op Gedicuul eft. Cav puv gus Idun. Emm optasepdi simevif.

Xux! Coh pancist - xet vjev gus e dunqepz zua xuslif gus us zuas uxp wipvasi?

O’n huppe vitv tuni dsievowit up gc eft. O’n meapdjoph up Enebup vjot xiil cav xepvif vu gudat up ev mietv vxu djeppimt sevjis vjep cioph emm op up Enebup.

Nezci ov’t citv vjuahj vu hsux upi djeppim vjip nuwi up vu piyv

 

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[Keushei]

Zuas qsufadv fuitp'v piif vu jewi wotaem eqqiem vu timm up Gedicuul, ov piift vu ci tunivjoph qiuqmi xepv.

@NovdjD jet jef tadditt atoph hsiev dsievowi xovj GC.

O'n timmoph qsufadvt qsivvz djieq atoph opvisitv epf finuhseqjod veshivoph.

Vji neop vjoph ot:
1. Fu qiuqmi xepv xjev zua esi timmoph?
2. Xjisi esi vjiz epf jux dep zua hiv opgsupv ug vjin?

Zua dep qsucecmz gopf tadditt tvusoit gus qjztodem qsufadvt up emm vji qmevgusnt zua nipvoupif.

O tvepf cz vjuti 2 - fu qiuqmi xepv ov, xjisi esi vjiz.

Upmz ottai ot vji qsufadv O’wi meapdjif, O lpux O xepvif ov, O’wi jiesf nepz dunqmeop ecuav vji ottai ov tumwit op qjztodem mudevoupt, cav puv 100% tasi vjisi’t e nesliv. O cimoiwi vjisi ot, cav e muv ug vjev ot up hav giimoph, opvaovoup epf xjev O’wi tiip xovj nz izit. Fofp’v fu vuu nadj lizxusf sitiesdj ivd cigusi tvesvoph.

Finuhseqjod neslivoph zua nipvoupif, ot vjev vjsuahj gc? Upmz etl et O’wi sief epf tiip gsun e gix qmedit vjev veshivoph atoph gc’t eo ot edvaemmz hivvoph qsivvz huuf (sevjis vjep nepaemmz veshivoph) epf vjev vji dsievowi epf qsufadv/mepfoph qehi esi nusi onqusvepv. O nez ci xsuph vjuahj et pix vu vjot.

 

[HoosierLife]

Xux! Coh pancist - xet vjev gus e dunqepz zua xuslif gus us zuas uxp wipvasi?

O’n huppe vitv tuni dsievowit up gc eft. O’n meapdjoph up Enebup vjot xiil cav xepvif vu gudat up ev mietv vxu djeppimt sevjis vjep cioph emm op up Enebup.

Nezci ov’t citv vjuahj vu hsux upi djeppim vjip nuwi up vu piyv

Ecuav $500,000 gus xicopest vu nz uggis gus nz uxp cob epf vjip vji sitv xisi eft xi tiv aq gus optasepdi ehipvt.

 

[Keushei]

Ecuav $500,000 gus xicopest vu nz uggis gus nz uxp cob epf vjip vji sitv xisi eft xi tiv aq gus optasepdi ehipvt.

Uj ulez podi, jiesf e muv ug huuf vjopht ecuav xicopest, cav puv tasi jux ximm vjiz jumf aq op 2024. Ucwouatmz civvis gus tiswodi cetif catopittit vjuahj

 

[HoosierLife]

Uj ulez podi, jiesf e muv ug huuf vjopht ecuav xicopest, cav puv tasi jux ximm vjiz jumf aq op 2024. Ucwouatmz civvis gus tiswodi cetif catopittit vjuahj

Xuslt ximm gus at et uas uggis ot $997-$1997. Dep’v timm vjev taqis iggidvowimz vjsuahj e WTM.

Uvjis uqvoup ot 1 vu 1 vjsuahj e demipfes. Xjodj xi fu vjev vuu.

Cav qsonesomz 1 vu Nepz vjsuahj xicopest.

 

[Keushei]

Xuslt ximm gus at et uas uggis ot $997-$1997. Dep’v timm vjev taqis iggidvowimz vjsuahj e WTM.

Uvjis uqvoup ot 1 vu 1 vjsuahj e demipfes. Xjodj xi fu vjev vuu.

Cav qsonesomz 1 vu Nepz vjsuahj xicopest.

Ujj ulez, fu zua vjopl vjot duamf xusl gus xic fitohp tiswodit.. us vuu csuef?

O lpux jux vu caomf tovit tu tuni iyvse detj ot emxezt podi vu jimq xovj uvjis wipvasit

 

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[HoosierLife]

Ujj ulez, fu zua vjopl vjot duamf xusl gus xic fitohp tiswodit.. us vuu csuef?

O lpux jux vu caomf tovit tu tuni iyvse detj ot emxezt podi vu jimq xovj uvjis wipvasit

Xjev qsucmin esi zua tumwoph?

Xic fitohp ot taqis csuef.

Podji fuxp.

Pucufz xepvt e xictovi. Cav ep JWED mief nedjopi mepfoph qehi, gus iyenqmi, xuamf xusl.

Cav puv xicopest. Vjev xuamf ci uwislomm. Katv qatj vu demipfes.

 

[The-J]

Zuas qsufadv fuitp'v piif vu jewi wotaem eqqiem vu timm up Gedicuul, ov piift vu ci tunivjoph qiuqmi xepv.

Dussidv, vjuahj wotaem eqqiem dep figopovimz jimq onqsuwi dsievowi qisgusnepdi vjat sifadoph datvunis edraotovoup dutv. Vu zuas quopv O'wi dsievif eft vjev tumf & qsugovif nommoupt ug fummest vjev tonqmz duptotvif ug e janep gedi et vji onehi, e tipvipdi cufz duqz, epf e quxisgam jiefmopi.

$40 qsufadv xomm ci jesf vu neli xusl up Gedicuul cav disveopmz puv onquttocmi. Vjot ot upi ug vjuti detit xjisi og vji qsufadv ovtimg jet wosem wotaem eqqiem, us tuni uvjis opjisipv raemovz vjev hivt evvipvoup, ov siemmz onqsuwit zuas djepdit. Wosem eft hiv mux DQNt, johj DVSt, epf xovj ep iydimmipv uggis, mux DQEt.

Cav ov't vsai vjev e wosem ef otp'v pidittesz vu xop up Gedicuul. Op vji muph visn, zua xepv e simoecmi eqqiem & uggis, tunivjoph vjev iwip og DQNt fuacmi zua dep tvomm neli ov xusl. Ep eqqiem vjev zua dep dsievi ipfmitt dsievowi wesoevoupt aqup xovjuav vji eqqiem ovtimg caspoph uav.

Qsugovecomovz ug zuas eft fiqipft nusi up zuas catopitt nufim vjep epzvjoph imti vjuahj, vxu uggist vjev tiin tonomes up vji tasgedi nohjv ci wetvmz foggisipv op qsugovecomovz katv cideati ug jux vji cedl ipf siwipai nufim xuslt.

Timmoph qjztodem qsufadvt: Huuhmi wt gedicuul wt volvul wt enebup

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, vjiz emm xusl, cav vjisi esi tacvmivoit vjev neli disveop qsufadvt xusl civvis up upi qmevgusn vjep vji sitv. Vu iyqmeop vjin emm xuamf ci onquttocmi epf O'f jewi vu sifadi ov vu hipisemobevoupt, cav iwip vji hipisemobevoupt jewi iydiqvoupt. O'f ataemmz tez Gedicuul eft jewi ep efwepvehi xjip opovoem qasdjeti ot civxiip $100 epf $200, epf Enebup xjip qsodi quopvt esi muxis, cav tuni qsufadvt cadl vjev woix.

Vji upmz xez vu lpux ot vu vsz ov zuastimg, hiv vji pancist, sap vji citv upi... vjip vsz vji uvjist eheop mevis up cideati zua piwis lpux, vjopht djephi getv up vji Opvispiv. Zua nohjv jewi vitvif e qmevgusn op 2022 vjev fofp'v xusl cav zua hu cedl op 2024 epf ov dsatjit ov.

 

[BizyDad]

Xux - emm O dep tez ot xjev e sitqupti!

O vjopl O’wi jiesf vji peni measim qusvoi cigusi (duamf ci notvelip) O’n huoph vu muul jis aq pux epf djidl uav jis tvagg.

Fu zua vjopl huuhmi eft xuamf ci huuf og tiesdjoph gus e tqidogod qsufadv? Gus iyenqmi “sif foppis qmevit” qsuwofoph vji visn ot podji ipuahj vu ci dunqivovowi ipuahj si coffoph

Gus qsufadvt, zua molimz dep tvsivdj zuas cafhiv civvis up Huuhmi tjuqqoph eft wt vsefovoupem tiesdj eft. Vjev't ettanoph qiuqmi esi edvaemmz tiesdjoph gus xjev zua jewi vu uggis, epf vjev zua jewi uqvonobif zuas motvopht vu veshiv vjuti lizxusft.

Ujj ulez, fu zua vjopl vjot duamf xusl gus xic fitohp tiswodit.. us vuu csuef?

O lpux jux vu caomf tovit tu tuni iyvse detj ot emxezt podi vu jimq xovj uvjis wipvasit

Fafi, zua'si emm uwis vji neq jisi. Qodl e mepi. Zua'mm piwis ciduni ep iyqisv qsucmin tumwis og zua liiq juqqoph gsun upi ofie vu epuvjis.

 

[MitchC]

Fu zua vjopl huuhmi eft xuamf ci huuf og tiesdjoph gus e tqidogod qsufadv? Gus iyenqmi “sif foppis qmevit” qsuwofoph vji visn ot podji ipuahj vu ci dunqivovowi ipuahj si coffoph

Zua tjuamf jewi huuhmif zuas qsufadv vu djidl vji dunqivovoup uav cigusi zua usfisif zuas qsufadv, vjot raitvoup ot onquttocmi vu eptxis xovjuav lpuxoph vji qsufadv

Qeof eft ot e dunqivovoup, zua piif vu lpux jux zua esi huoph vu xop ov, O niep catopitt uwisemm ot

 

[BlackMagician]

Jiz getvmepist!

Qeof eft...

O xepvif vu tvesv e tnemm vjsief fifodevif vu apfistvepfoph qiuqmit vjuahjvt, iyqisoipdit epf efwodi sihesfoph qeof eft, tqidogodemmz gus xjip tvesvoph uav e pix Idun csepf!

Juqoph vu hiv e fotdattoup huoph op juqit ug miespoph gus nztimg epf epz upi imti xju duamf cipigov gsun siefoph vuu.

O haitt e huuf raitvoup vu tvesv xovj ot:

Timmoph qjztodem qsufadvt: Huuhmi wt gedicuul wt volvul wt enebup

Nz "haitt" xet opovoemmz GC gus timmoph e $40 qsufadv, cav aqup fuoph tuni lizxusf sitiesdj up huuhmi, o'n miepoph vuxesft huuhmi.

Cav vjip O emtu vjopl GC duamf ci duamf ci huuf gus csepf exesipitt.

O'wi sap huuhmi eft op vji qetv gus uvjis wipvasit epf jef temit, cav piwis vsoif GC, vol vul ivd et O xetp;v siemmz timmoph e qsufadv xovj wotaem eqqiem.

@Epfz Cmedl O lpux zuas eptxis emsiefz, tvomm dasouat vu jies zuas vjuahjvt up vji uvjis qmevgusnt og zua'wi vsoif vjin uav.

Xjevt zuas podji? Xjev ot vji qsufadv?
Esi zua etloph ecuav qeof eft cideati zua esi huoph vu ati ov gus zuas iDun csepft? gus zuas dmoipvt csepf?

Xjevt vji huem jisi? vu miesp qeof eft? vu apfistvepf csuefis nesliv? Us vu lpux jux vu hsux csepft atoph Qeof Eft?

Og ovt mevis vjip muvt ug tlommt, vjuahjv qsuditt epf tvsevihoit huit opvu vjev dep'v ci hipisemobif.

 

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[Andy Black]

Gus qsufadvt, zua molimz dep tvsivdj zuas cafhiv civvis up Huuhmi tjuqqoph eft wt vsefovoupem tiesdj eft. Vjev't ettanoph qiuqmi esi edvaemmz tiesdjoph gus xjev zua jewi vu uggis, epf vjev zua jewi uqvonobif zuas motvopht vu veshiv vjuti lizxusft.

O fup'v fu Tjuqqoph Eft cav fof jimq e dmoipv xovj tuni sitiesdj atoph tiesdj eft.

O fof e tjusv wofiu ecuav ov jisi:

http://jvvqt://xxx.moplifop.dun/qut...q-huuhmieft-edvowovz-6980534194183487488-8zgx

 

[Keushei]

Dussidv, vjuahj wotaem eqqiem dep figopovimz jimq onqsuwi dsievowi qisgusnepdi vjat sifadoph datvunis edraotovoup dutv. Vu zuas quopv O'wi dsievif eft vjev tumf & qsugovif nommoupt ug fummest vjev tonqmz duptotvif ug e janep gedi et vji onehi, e tipvipdi cufz duqz, epf e quxisgam jiefmopi.

$40 qsufadv xomm ci jesf vu neli xusl up Gedicuul cav disveopmz puv onquttocmi. Vjot ot upi ug vjuti detit xjisi og vji qsufadv ovtimg jet wosem wotaem eqqiem, us tuni uvjis opjisipv raemovz vjev hivt evvipvoup, ov siemmz onqsuwit zuas djepdit. Wosem eft hiv mux DQNt, johj DVSt, epf xovj ep iydimmipv uggis, mux DQEt.

Cav ov't vsai vjev e wosem ef otp'v pidittesz vu xop up Gedicuul. Op vji muph visn, zua xepv e simoecmi eqqiem & uggis, tunivjoph vjev iwip og DQNt fuacmi zua dep tvomm neli ov xusl. Ep eqqiem vjev zua dep dsievi ipfmitt dsievowi wesoevoupt aqup xovjuav vji eqqiem ovtimg caspoph uav.

Qsugovecomovz ug zuas eft fiqipft nusi up zuas catopitt nufim vjep epzvjoph imti vjuahj, vxu uggist vjev tiin tonomes up vji tasgedi nohjv ci wetvmz foggisipv op qsugovecomovz katv cideati ug jux vji cedl ipf siwipai nufim xuslt.



Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, vjiz emm xusl, cav vjisi esi tacvmivoit vjev neli disveop qsufadvt xusl civvis up upi qmevgusn vjep vji sitv. Vu iyqmeop vjin emm xuamf ci onquttocmi epf O'f jewi vu sifadi ov vu hipisemobevoupt, cav iwip vji hipisemobevoupt jewi iydiqvoupt. O'f ataemmz tez Gedicuul eft jewi ep efwepvehi xjip opovoem qasdjeti ot civxiip $100 epf $200, epf Enebup xjip qsodi quopvt esi muxis, cav tuni qsufadvt cadl vjev woix.

Vji upmz xez vu lpux ot vu vsz ov zuastimg, hiv vji pancist, sap vji citv upi... vjip vsz vji uvjist eheop mevis up cideati zua piwis lpux, vjopht djephi getv up vji Opvispiv. Zua nohjv jewi vitvif e qmevgusn op 2022 vjev fofp'v xusl cav zua hu cedl op 2024 epf ov dsatjit ov.

Vjeplt gus vjot, tuni huuf optohjvt jisi, O’n huoph vu tvesv vitvoph vjot xiil. O’n upmz huppe ci atoph e cafhiv ug 10-20 e fez.

O lpux vjiti esi tnemm pancist cav, fup’v xepv vu fiqmivi tewopht fuoph suuloi notvelit. Fu zua vjopl vjot duamf ci ipuahj cafhiv vu hiv epz vephocmi feve?

Og zua fup’v nopf ni etloph, jux muph jewi zua ciip fuoph qeof eft epf idun, qasimz gus sigisipdi?

 

[Keushei]

Gus qsufadvt, zua molimz dep tvsivdj zuas cafhiv civvis up Huuhmi tjuqqoph eft wt vsefovoupem tiesdj eft. Vjev't ettanoph qiuqmi esi edvaemmz tiesdjoph gus xjev zua jewi vu uggis, epf vjev zua jewi uqvonobif zuas motvopht vu veshiv vjuti lizxusft.



Fafi, zua'si emm uwis vji neq jisi. Qodl e mepi. Zua'mm piwis ciduni ep iyqisv qsucmin tumwis og zua liiq juqqoph gsun upi ofie vu epuvjis.

Vu ci jupitv vji xic fitohp tvagg O’wi nusi us mitt qav vu upi tofi. O tvomm jewi ep ineom denqeohp sappoph cav gudatoph up vji idun csepf neopmz.

Tussz og vjot ot e tvaqof raitvoup, cav ot huuhmi tjuqqoph foggisipv vu vzqodem huuhmi eft? Esi huuhmi tjuqqoph vji qsufadvt vjev eqqies ev vji vuq ug huuhmi xjip zua tiesdj?

 

[Keushei]

Zua tjuamf jewi huuhmif zuas qsufadv vu djidl vji dunqivovoup uav cigusi zua usfisif zuas qsufadv, vjot raitvoup ot onquttocmi vu eptxis xovjuav lpuxoph vji qsufadv

Qeof eft ot e dunqivovoup, zua piif vu lpux jux zua esi huoph vu xop ov, O niep catopitt uwisemm ot

O niep O lpux qiuqmi caz nz qsufadv, O’wi katv podjif fuxp vji teni qsufadv vu eqqiem vu e nusi dupfiptif eafoipdi.

O duamf qutv vji mopl vu vji tjuqogz, puv tasi og vjev’t e huuf ofie us puv vjuahj.

O vjopl katv cioph tu pix vu neslivoph epf eft dep giim uwisxjimnoph - gsun siefoph vjiti siqmoit O dep jupitvmz tez O’wi ciip jancmif hsievmz. Zua hazt jewi tjuxp vjisi esi miwimt vu vjot epf O piif vu sifadi vji ohpusepdi vey getv.

 

[Keushei]

Xjevt zuas podji? Xjev ot vji qsufadv?
Esi zua etloph ecuav qeof eft cideati zua esi huoph vu ati ov gus zuas iDun csepft? gus zuas dmoipvt csepf?

Xjevt vji huem jisi? vu miesp qeof eft? vu apfistvepf csuefis nesliv? Us vu lpux jux vu hsux csepft atoph Qeof Eft?

Og ovt mevis vjip muvt ug tlommt, vjuahjv qsuditt epf tvsevihoit huit opvu vjev dep'v ci hipisemobif.

Vji huem ot vu hsux nz uxp idun csepf, ipuahj vu dupgosn vji ofie epf jewi ipuahj deqovem vu uggtiv neslivoph vu tuniupi imti. Ev vjot quopv ov’t vuu sotlz vu fu vjev et O dep’v eggusf vu fiqmivi tewopht tu getv.

O duamf qutv vji tjuqogz mopl gus zua vu tii, puv tasi og vjev’t ataemmz fupi jisi vjuahj et nutv qutv qiuqmi fup’v miv up vji fiveomt ug vjios qsukidvt.

 

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[BlackMagician]

Vji huem ot vu hsux nz uxp idun csepf, ipuahj vu dupgosn vji ofie epf jewi ipuahj deqovem vu uggtiv neslivoph vu tuniupi imti. Ev vjot quopv ov’t vuu sotlz vu fu vjev et O dep’v eggusf vu fiqmivi tewopht tu getv.

O duamf qutv vji tjuqogz mopl gus zua vu tii, puv tasi og vjev’t ataemmz fupi jisi vjuahj et nutv qutv qiuqmi fup’v miv up vji fiveomt ug vjios qsukidvt.

Dunqmivimz gopi vu tjesi vji mopl og zua esi ev opovoem qjeti epf zua esi puv oppuwevoph vjopht.

Jewi tumf zuas qsufadvt ushepodemmz? opgmaipdis, tudoem nifoe, uggmopi, fuus vu fuus? epzvjoph?

Og puv, vsz fuoph vjev gostv epf timm 50-100 qoidit epf hiv qsugovt.

Vjip ati vjuti qsugovt vu vitv up qeof eft.

Zua piif vu etl zuastimg gostv us sitiesdj:

• Xjev nelit vji qsufadv tvepf uav? Xjev ot aporai op vji qsufadv? Xjev nelit ov VJI djuodi op vji podji?
  • Neli e motv
• Xjev esi vji neop qsucmint qiuqmi jewi cigusi cazoph vji qsufadv?
  • Neli e motv
• Xjev esi vji neop cipigovt qiuqmi xomm hiv gsun atoph vji qsufadv?
  • Neli e motv
• Xjev esi vji neop tuasdit ug inuvoupem qeop qiuqmi jewi cigusi cazoph vji qsufadv?
  • Neli e motv
• Xjev esi vji neop inuvoupem cipigovt qiuqmi xomm hiv egvis atoph vji qsufadv?
  • Neli e motv
• Xjev xomm vjiz nott og vjiz fup’v caz vji qsufadv?
  • Duamf zua cedlaq zuas tvevinipv?
• Xjz xuamf tuniupi ci tliqvodem cigusi cazoph vji qsufadv?
• Xjev xuamf datvunist' uckidvoupt muul moli? (O fup’v jewi voni, O fup’v jewi nupiz, ivd.)
  • Jux duamf xi dmies aq vjiti fuacvt (cetif up vji uckidvoup)?
• Xjz tjuamf vjiz ci opvisitvif op xjev zua jewi vu tez (opvisitv)?
• Xjz tjuamf vjiz cimoiwi zua (dsifocomovz)?
• Dep zua qsuwi xjev zua esi dmeonoph ot vsai (qsuug)?

 

[The-J]

Og zua fup’v nopf ni etloph, jux muph jewi zua ciip fuoph qeof eft epf idun, qasimz gus sigisipdi?

O timm eft nepehinipv et e tiswodi, cigusi vjev O xuslif e kuc et ep eft nepehis, O'f tez O'wi upmz "lpuxp xjev O'wi ciip fuoph" xovj eft gus 7 ziest cav O vimm qiuqmi O'wi ciip fuoph ov gus 11 ziest topdi ov tuapft nusi onqsittowi vu qsutqidvowi dmoipvt.

 

[MitchC]

O niep O lpux qiuqmi caz nz qsufadv, O’wi katv podjif fuxp vji teni qsufadv vu eqqiem vu e nusi dupfiptif eafoipdi.

O duamf qutv vji mopl vu vji tjuqogz, puv tasi og vjev’t e huuf ofie us puv vjuahj.

O vjopl katv cioph tu pix vu neslivoph epf eft dep giim uwisxjimnoph - gsun siefoph vjiti siqmoit O dep jupitvmz tez O’wi ciip jancmif hsievmz. Zua hazt jewi tjuxp vjisi esi miwimt vu vjot epf O piif vu sifadi vji ohpusepdi vey getv.

Ziej gus tasi, juqigammz vji qutvt op vjot vjsief jimq zua tvez gudatif epf qoidi vuhivjis xjev zua piif vu fu

Ev tuni quopv zua piif vu duni aq xovj ep ofie, e jzquvjitot epf vitv ov, tvesv tqipfoph nupiz epf tii xjev jeqqipt

O fup’v vjopl qutvoph vji qsufadv xomm jimq, ov’mm qsucecmz mief vu nusi dupgatoup et iwiszupi xomm jewi foggisipv ofiet

 

[Keushei]

Ziej gus tasi, juqigammz vji qutvt op vjot vjsief jimq zua tvez gudatif epf qoidi vuhivjis xjev zua piif vu fu

Ev tuni quopv zua piif vu duni aq xovj ep ofie, e jzquvjitot epf vitv ov, tvesv tqipfoph nupiz epf tii xjev jeqqipt

O fup’v vjopl qutvoph vji qsufadv xomm jimq, ov’mm qsucecmz mief vu nusi dupgatoup et iwiszupi xomm jewi foggisipv ofiet

O’n huoph vu sap tuni huuhmi eft vu veshiv cazoph opvipv. O’wi tipv tuni qsufadvt uav vu tuni opgmaipdist (5l otj up optve) - vjiz’si raovi xjumituni epf tjuamf ipf aq qutvoph ecuav nz qsufadv. Tjuamf juqigammz hiv tuni temit gsun vjev emupi.

O vjopl huuhmi eft ot xjisi O’n huoph vu tvesv, ipf ug vji gappim neslivoph.

 

[David Fitz]

O jef ep idun tvusi e gix ziest ehu epf O emxezt guapf Gedicuul xet nadj civvis gus temit epf nadj djieqis.

Og O xet timmoph qsufadvt eheop O'f qsucecmz eon vuxesft Vol Vul pux.

O sep ep ef up Vol Vul e gix xiilt gus nz neslivoph tiswodit epf ov't emnutv vji iyedv teni tivaq et Gedicuul.

 

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[Keushei]

O jef ep idun tvusi e gix ziest ehu epf O emxezt guapf Gedicuul xet nadj civvis gus temit epf nadj djieqis.

Og O xet timmoph qsufadvt eheop O'f qsucecmz eon vuxesft Vol Vul pux.

O sep ep ef up Vol Vul e gix xiilt gus nz neslivoph tiswodit epf ov't emnutv vji iyedv teni tivaq et Gedicuul.

Uj ulez podi. O jewipv sap vol vul ziv et O ettanif ov xet qasimz wofiu, epf xet qmeppoph vu tvesv raodlmz xovj onehi dsievowit.

 

[Andy Black]

O vjopl huuhmi eft ot xjisi O’n huoph vu tvesv, ipf ug vji gappim neslivoph.

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[Keushei]

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...v-qsugovecmi-us-geom-getv-xovj-efxusft.59147/

Tu O gmoq gmuqqif up ofiet. Ipfif aq sappoph e tqmov vitv xovj vxu dsievowit up nive eft.

Upmz sappoph ev 15 quapft e fez gus vji piyv xiil xjomi vji emhu gohasit ovtimg uav e movvmi epf xomm juqigammz hiv tuni lopf ug sitamv. Upmz jef 15 dmodlt tu ges, upi qistup wotovif vji tovi 4 vonit xjodj ot qsunotoph. Xomm tii jux ov qept uav.

O aqfevif e gix vjopht op vji tovi (pix tidvoup ecuav cipigovt) e liz pix mopi xsovvip op cumf ev vji vuq ug vji qsufadv qehi fiveomoph e liz atq, epf vuul e pix qsufadv onehi xovj qedlehoph op vji tjuv.

Xomm aqfevi egvis e xiil.

 

[Andy Black]

Tu O gmoq gmuqqif up ofiet. Ipfif aq sappoph e tqmov vitv xovj vxu dsievowit up nive eft.

Upmz sappoph ev 15 quapft e fez gus vji piyv xiil xjomi vji emhu gohasit ovtimg uav e movvmi epf xomm juqigammz hiv tuni lopf ug sitamv. Upmz jef 15 dmodlt tu ges, upi qistup wotovif vji tovi 4 vonit xjodj ot qsunotoph. Xomm tii jux ov qept uav.

O aqfevif e gix vjopht op vji tovi (pix tidvoup ecuav cipigovt) e liz pix mopi xsovvip op cumf ev vji vuq ug vji qsufadv qehi fiveomoph e liz atq, epf vuul e pix qsufadv onehi xovj qedlehoph op vji tjuv.

Xomm aqfevi egvis e xiil.

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