Iman Gadzhi's Digital Renaissance, Scam?

[mikecarlooch]

Hi all,

I’ve been meaning to ask about a person, Iman Gadzhi. YouTuber, young millionaire entrepreneur. I’ve been watching his YouTube videos for a while and he is good of what he says and talks about. He has this course - agency navigator, it sounds amazing but I feel as if it’s too true to be true. However, if that isn’t the case. Would you say yes to purchasing his course of $1499. ???

The truth is, don't listen to people like Iman Gadzhi. Why? Because it's "Sexy" to everyone looking to start an online business.

Go to more low-key internet marketers who give way more value and insight than those guys..

Frank Kern, Joe Polish of Genius Network , etc.

 

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[Xeon]

I don't even trust my father, why would I trust to a guy with a weird name who I don't even know?

I love your posts, they make me laugh out loud

 

[mqceem]

Hi all,

I’ve been meaning to ask about a person, Iman Gadzhi. YouTuber, young millionaire entrepreneur. I’ve been watching his YouTube videos for a while and he is good of what he says and talks about. He has this course - agency navigator, it sounds amazing but I feel as if it’s too true to be true. However, if that isn’t the case. Would you say yes to purchasing his course of $1499. ???

Hi, I also came across this course and was thinking to purchase it (I didn't). However, I know that Iman is an intelligent and well-read person who knows the rules of the game.

It means only one thing, this course is a business and for 1499$ you won't receive ALL the information, secrets, and techniques in order to succeed in creating our own agency. For an entrepreneur like Iman, telling everything he knows will be just an irrational move.

Btw check out this video review on the course:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joOsBThLLgg

 

[Wizza134]

The truth is, don't listen to people like Iman Gadzhi. Why? Because it's "Sexy" to everyone looking to start an online business.

Go to more low-key internet marketers who give way more value and insight than those guys..

Frank Kern, Joe Polish of Genius Network , etc.

I never knew about these youtube channels thank you.

 

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[James Klymus]

I remember I used to follow people like Iman. Internet marketers teaching you about the next great business to start.

I could say a lot about why its not a good idea to listen to people selling 4-5 figure business courses, But I'll put it like this:

If you can make so much money doing the business that they teach, Why would they be teaching others how to do it? The only explanation is that there is more money in TEACHING the business model, Rather than actually doing it.

For example, Dropshipping. Sell tens of thousands of widgets to make 100,000 dollars, or sell 100, $1,000 courses to make $100,000, All with almost no expenses.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

We already have a thread on this guy, we don't need another. Thread merged. Carry on...

 

[Andy Black]

I remember I used to follow people like Iman. Internet marketers teaching you about the next great business to start.

I could say a lot about why its not a good idea to listen to people selling 4-5 figure business courses, But I'll put it like this:

If you can make so much money doing the business that they teach, Why would they be teaching others how to do it? The only explanation is that there is more money in TEACHING the business model, Rather than actually doing it.

For example, Dropshipping. Sell tens of thousands of widgets to make 100,000 dollars, or sell 100, $1,000 courses to make $100,000, All with almost no expenses.

Not always.

Some people love teaching.

 

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[ZackerySprague]

Iman got rich off of selling his course at $1,500 dollars per person. A person who seeks to sell a content system of any kind must build an audience on any of the famous social media channels (YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter). In some cases people call it the one person business model.

Anyway, the idea is to make you look like an authority figure in the space and then make content that catches eyeballs, thus building their following. Then they will try to have you go through their sells funnel to eventually lead to a sale of their course. This is how most education creators make their riches versus others who creates books and sell them at mass scale.

Just to name a few in the space who so this:

1. Jordan Platten.
2. Jaime Higuera.
3. Iman Gadhzi.

The problem is that do these individuals actually practice what they preach? Are they actively doing the work or just getting rich by selling you a dream. Jordan and Iman hopped on the digital marketing trend fad and marketed their course.

Kinda funny Sam Ovens preached about this. He had a business called consulting.com that had two levels:

1. First run a digital marketing agency to $30k a month
2. Then switch and primary focus on selling a course to the millions.

Thus, this is how they gained their wealth.

I stay away from mainstream people and intend to favor people who actually ran businesses or have sold them and learn from them if they have any content available. I no longer purchased courses at a very high price in the thousands when a book is just fine for me to learn from.

Plus if you buy courses from these guys, your going to converge on a highway with so many people who are doing the same thing.

 

[James Klymus]

Not always.

Some people love teaching.

The only way it would make sense, is if they already exited their business, and started teaching others. Otherwise it makes no logical sense for you to introduce more competition into your market.

 

[Andy Black]

The only way it would make sense, is if they already exited their business, and started teaching others. Otherwise it makes no logical sense for you to introduce more competition into your market.

Not everyone sees it as competition.

I've helped loads of friends get started doing what I do.

1) I get a lot of satisfaction seeing them working for themselves.

2) They do and learn things I haven't and often feed that back to me.

3) Lol, it gives me more people I can whinge to about algorithm changes or clients saying the cheque is in the post.

4) If I ever wanted to find a new team member then my first port of call would be the people who've taken my course and do things the way I do.

5) Not everything is a zero sum game. Even if it was, some people get more pleasure teaching and coaching than just doing the work.

I'm a mix of both. I love doing the work, and I love being able to talk about it to people who understand what I'm doing.

6) Beware of definitive statements. I'm a sample size of one, but am quite happy training up potential competition. (Another reason is that most people won't directly compete anyway.)

 

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[Deleted88861]

Oh boy, Iman... He completely scammed me during lockdown, fair to say that he got me.

I Lost A LOT of money, sleep and many, many weeks of nonstop work, not to mention confidence in myself (I'm only just getting my confidence back to even start talking on this online forum again, yep, it damaged me pretty badly and I never got any of my money back from him, instead I was minus $1997).

Did his social media agency course with my partner (shoutout to her for all the sleepless nights and the crazy switched on brain that she has) and not only was 90% of this course silly mindset and NLP stuff that was borderline cringe, my partner and I still stuck at it and eventually realised that from a rational, purely mathematical standpoint the business model/teaching foundation was completely unsustainable and purely wishful thinking.

Please do yourself the favour and avoid him and ones like him. I personally don't even go near things like YouTube for ANY advice on business-related matters anymore (I know thats the extreme side of things but when you went through what I did, well, there you go), I strictly use FL forum, FutureLearn Open Uni and Udemy. If I was to ever do a course online from an independent source again, you bet your a$$ I am gonna do my due diligence (that part was my fault in the past). If it ends in a 7 its a straight up "heck no" also.


(Shoutout Mike Winnet & Coffeezilla)

The hardest part was: Being a little lad from Scotland who was raised by his Grandpa (a very successful business owner locally & who recently and very unfortunately passed away) who had very good intentions instilled into me from a young age and wanted to genuinely help people for fun and see them smile - Imagine going into this agency course and committing 110% to this, being excited and full of confidence, only to find out that instead helping business owners I was actually doing the total opposite and doing harm to their investments, I felt so awful for this. Never again.

Hope this sheds some light, still something I am trying to forgive myself personally for. This is the kind of harm these online gurus can do to someone who may be considered an easy target because they are young and vulnerable. Sometimes selling a wishful dream can make or break the persons whom greatly aspired to achieve that dream due to the absolute cut-throat style of vulnerable and easy demographics they target.

Anyways, I'm rambling, hope this helps you out somehow.

All the best,
Arron

 

[Deleted88861]

Not everyone sees it as competition.

I've helped loads of friends get started doing what I do.

1) I get a lot of satisfaction seeing them working for themselves.

2) They do and learn things I haven't and often feed that back to me.

3) Lol, it gives me more people I can whinge to about algorithm changes or clients saying the cheque is in the post.

4) If I ever wanted to find a new team member then my first port of call would be the people who've taken my course and do things the way I do.

5) Not everything is a zero sum game. Even if it was, some people get more pleasure teaching and coaching than just doing the work.

I'm a mix of both. I love doing the work, and I love being able to talk about it to people who understand what I'm doing.

6) Beware of definitive statements. I'm a sample size of one, but am quite happy training up potential competition. (Another reason is that most people won't directly compete anyway.)

Brilliant approach to be honest. Andy forever helping people, even in what may be considered an unpopular way by many! Really like that. Plus, I guess if you're confident and solid in what you do, why not encourage a bit of competition?

 

[EarlChanges]

As somebody who has spent the entirety of last year mentoring agency owners and has had a 100% success rate so far, including clients who have closed $80K+ deals with mega corporations AND have reviewed Iman's course as part of my research, I'll say it's one of the worst options available.

As usually happens with the mainstream gurus, it's usually great marketing, a previous track record and lying + exaggeration that does the trick, not the quality of their products. Most of what Iman teaches is outdated, and the focus is heavily on mindset. I don't know anyone who is serious about the agency business who could honestly benefit from that, apart from complete beginners who have no clue how to build and run an agency or any other sort of business.

But... suffice to say that if you're looking to work with larger clients, including multinational corporations, the stuff you learn in there isn't going to be helpful. If you want your agency to be a real business, and not just a side hustle, I recommend you look elsewhere.

To successfully scale an agency, you need to solve three problems:

1. Lack of a repeatable & automated process of acquiring new customers

2. Low customer lifetime value, meaning that you’re not able to extract sufficient value from a customer to hire others and still make a decent profit

3. Lack of scaling systems that enable you to maintain quality of output while growing your business and expanding your team – without this, you can’t scale without losing customers due to low quality work.

Most gurus focus on (1), and that's ALL they teach you. How to get more leads.

But what do you do with more leads if you're stuck working in the business? If you can't afford to hire team members or train them? If your competitors can outspend & out-market you? If you can't maintain quality of service as you scale beyond yourself? If you can't manage your team?

For many, the result is that their income is tied to their time, and they can’t grow without driving themselves crazy - meaning that they're still stuck in a job, even if it's somewhat high paying.

I've actually had clients who have gone through such courses - and this was the exact state they were in when we started together. A business is more than just about leads and new customers. You need to get out of this "hustle mentality" and unto a more comprehensive, business owner mindset.

I Appreciate this post man. Thanks! I would love to connect.

 

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[theplannerr]

Bump* Heads up, last year it was "Digital Renaissance"....now this year, he is marketing the same thing called "Remote Revolution"....lol. Likely 95% similar to last year but re-pushing to those who didn't buy last year or may have fell into the algorithm this year.

I feel bad for the poor chaps that buy into it :/

 

[segsv]

He is about to launch a new online course platform and I was wondering what people here think about this guy. Is he a fake guru or legit?

 

[Ties.]

Hi mate, watch this:

View: https://youtu.be/iz4tGsY9LYI
. I personally haven’t done much research into Iman and think some of his video’s/podcasts are cool.

He is about to launch a new online course platform and I was wondering what people here think about this guy. Is he a fake guru or legit?

 

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[Ties.]

How do posts like these get such rapid traction from new contributors/parked accounts? Are these bots?

Those accounts are probably younger people and those are the people who watch his video’s.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jesus Christ, we don't need a new thread every time this guys sells some new course.

 

[Saad Khan]

Lol a course priced at $1499? Ain't no way I'm paying that much to a fake guru.

If I were to condense all my learnings in the Amazon Ads space over the last year and put em on a website, I'd price them like $100 bucks. Knowledge should be affordable and shouldn't cost you a kidney.

Mentoring/Coaching of an experienced practitioner is a better option.

Key Takeaway: Buy courses of practicioners in the niche. Not the marketers.

 

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[Mace22]

Iman displays the paradox of practice. Do you think he got rich from running a social media marketing agency? He certainly got his start doing that, but that was five years ago. What worked then, won't work now. Back then people didn't know how to manage social media app campaigns, but now every Iman viewer wants to start an agency. Iman gets rich telling people what to do, not doing it.

 

[daivey]

I originally found his channel when it had 200k subs (earlier this year), now he has shot past 1m. He is excellent at targeting a specific demographic: poor, single, ambitious men, "believes the 9-5 is a scam", read How To Think and Grow Rich, believes in NoFap or MGTOW, etc. etc. along with many stage orange qualities. I highly, highly, highly, highly advise that you orient yourself around original and First Principles thinking rather than try to buy into these "Business-in-a-box" fellows with their courses. At the end of the day, the world is about SURVIVAL and very few are selfless enough to ACT outside of those parameters. Rather than get our opinions on some random guy on the internet, Concentrate: What do YOU want out of life? What will you need to do? Who will you need to become? Good luck.

LOL
ambitious men don't watch youtube's from this fool, they go out and do it.

and just realized this thread is from the dead.