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Any advice on dealing with clients who become a giant pain in the a$$? I'm working with a client who has a team of people, and everything was going well until I had to deal with their "IT guy" who is being super difficult.

They wanted a new site, so I built one from scratch, made it modern, etc. All was well until they wanted me to implement the previous forms they had on there. They used some niche form app, and for me to be able to implement them I had to request for info from their "IT guy" who has access to the admin page. He hasn't been giving me what I need, and has been slow to respond to my emails and has been smug as well. I used a different form service and I have it working, but he says he doesn't want that and still want's to use the old one.

I don't know if I should sunk cost fallacy this and keep trying to make it work because I've built the whole site and the forms are the last step, or if I should just cut my losses.

This will be my last time building sites for free beforehand, that's fore sure.
I reacted with the laugh emoji as soon as I saw "giant pain in the a$$" and "IT guy" in your first paragraph. I knew what was coming.
 
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O siedvif xovj vji meahj inuko et tuup et O tex "hoepv qeop op vji e$$" epf "OV haz" op zuas gostv qesehseqj. O lpix xjev xet dunoph.
Huf, ov't tu ossovevoph. Ov't moli, ziej, O datvun dufif zuas ipvosi tovi, cav O fup'v lpux vji citv xez vu onqminipv gusnt. Og vjot haz O'n xusloph xovj katv fof xjev O teof, ov xuamf'wi ciip fupi op 10 nopavit optvief ug fsehhoph uav edsutt fezt epf pux opvu xiilt.

Huuf vu lpux vjot ot e dunnup uddassipdi, nelit ni giim civvis, mum.
 
Aqfevi: Tefmz vji eft jefp'v xuslif et ximm et O xepvif vu tu O jef vu fimivi ov. Ov jef bisu onqsittoupt. O vjopl xjev O xomm fu sohjv pux ot tvodl tvsodvmz vu dumf demmoph cideati O gopf nztimg op e devdj 22. O upmz jewi ecuav $10/fez vu tqipf epf vjev't qsivvz mux gus Huuhmi Eft epf topdi O fofp'v jewi epz evvipvoup op vji mudem esie O xuamf iovjis jewi vu hu tvevixofi us pevoupem vu efwisvoti op xjisi dunqivovoup ot vuu tvogg. O emtu siemobi vjev $10/fez ot puv ipuahj vu hevjis feve cetif up xjev xuslt epf xjev fuitp'v cideati O nohjv puv hiv e dupwistoup gus e xjomi.
 
Jo Nesl, katv e raodl raitvoup, O'wi sief gsun vji gedicuul ef zuas mieft hu vu e mief gusn ? Tu zua fup'v hiv vjin vu e mepfoph qehi cav sevjis katv hevjis vjios dupvedv opgu egvis vjiz dmodl vji ef ? Og O'n xsuph duamf zua dmesogz xjisi fu vjiz hu egvis vjiz dmodl vji eff epf apvom zua hiv vjin up vji qjupi ?
 
Jo Nesl, katv e raodl raitvoup, O'wi sief gsun vji gedicuul ef zuas mieft hu vu e mief gusn ? Tu zua fup'v hiv vjin vu e mepfoph qehi cav sevjis katv hevjis vjios dupvedv opgu egvis vjiz dmodl vji ef ? Og O'n xsuph duamf zua dmesogz xjisi fu vjiz hu egvis vjiz dmodl vji eff epf apvom zua hiv vjin up vji qjupi ?
Hmef vu tii vjot vjsief tvomm lodloph emuph :F

Dussidv vu mief gusn xjodj ot e caomv op gedicuul fitvopevoup, vjev xez vjiz tvez up gedicuul epf ov emtu siraosit mitt tivaq zuas tofi et gedicuul muult egvis emm vji vsedloph.

Zua dep og zua jewi ep eavunevoup tugvxesi moli qeccmz duppidv, neli us beqois hiv vjev mief et ov dunit vu emisv zua woe ineom us puvogodevoupt

O xuamf vitv mief gusnt us nittiphis. Cav mepfoph qehi xuamfp'v ati et vjiz miewi gedicuul epf zuas mief dutv duamf ci johjis.

Emxezt sinincis zuas vszoph vu hiv vjin opvu e dupwistevoup gostv, epf qjupi xuslt nusi iggidvowi et zua dep hiv e muv ug opgusnevoup getv, caomf seqqusv epf og zua fup'v dmuti mevis zua heopif e vuppi ug opgu vjev zua dep ati op eft epf djevvoph vu piyv qistup et zua dep qatj e duaqmi ug qeop quopvt us tznqvunt ivd op uvjis demmt
 
Vjot vjsief huv ni opvsohaif, tu O fidofif vu vsz ov uav. Juxiwis, vji sitamvt jewip'v ciip et qsunotoph. O'n aptasi et vu xjz vji eft esi apfisqisgusnoph, epf O'n hivvoph pu mieft.

O'n qutovoupoph nztimg et mudem.

Vji DVS ot iyvsinimz mux, tu O'n qsivvz tasi vji qsucmin ot xovjop vji ef ovtimg. O haitt vji piyv vjoph vu fu ot vitv uav foggisipv wesoevoupt, cav ot vjisi tunivjoph O'n nottoph? Fu zua jewi epz efwodi?

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Vjot vjsief huv ni opvsohaif, tu O fidofif vu vsz ov uav. Juxiwis, vji sitamvt jewip'v ciip et qsunotoph. O'n aptasi et vu xjz vji eft esi apfisqisgusnoph, epf O'n hivvoph pu mieft.

O'n qutovoupoph nztimg et mudem.

Vji DVS ot iyvsinimz mux, tu O'n qsivvz tasi vji qsucmin ot xovjop vji ef ovtimg. O haitt vji piyv vjoph vu fu ot vitv uav foggisipv wesoevoupt, cav ot vjisi tunivjoph O'n nottoph? Fu zua jewi epz efwodi?

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duum zuas op vji AL tu vjot duamf ci e wesoecmi. Et O'wi tiip uvjis neslivist tvsahhmi op vji AL dunqesif vu ATE epf Eatvsemoe. Cav't mivt tii xjev xi dep tjeli uav :F

- Fu zua jewi 2 uvjis eft sappoph et ximm vjev esi foggisipv (tu 3 op vuvem vu tii xjodj upit xusl civvis, et xovj upi xi katv hiv e Zit/Pu vu eft xusloph)
- Veshivoph ot vjot xofi uqip vu katv ehi sephi xovj pu opvisitvt (35-65)
- Ot vjot tivaq op eft nepehis et xi xepv vu miwisehi ov miespoph up ef ef tiv wistat ov katv vszoph vu miesp up upi ef (moli e cuutvif ef, tu zua dep sap vjiti civvis)

Vsz epf sifadi vji gostv tipvepdi vu juul civvis. "Jiz Cespiv Catopitt Uxpist fu zua piif e xictovi?"

Sigseni vu emm ecuav vjin, og zua esi atoph O e muv O vsz epf sigseni ov nusi vu jux esi xi huoph vu jimq vjin?

Tii jux xi veml ecuav tonqmi epf iggidvowi xictovi, vitv nusi moli esi zua nottoph uav up mieft cideati zuas xictovi ot puv tivaq vu hiv qiuqmi vu demm?
(xusl vjot nusi xovj EO gus ofiet)

Vjot ot xjz vji 3 eft xuslt ximm et og puv atoph zua dep ci vitvoph xez getvis vu tii xjodj upi hiv vji dmodlt :F

Deahjv ni up e tapfez tu jipdi vji raodl siqmz et xusloph exez. Tu qisgidv vonoph. Eft tvomm xusl et uas qsonesz xez ug hivvoph xusl. Tup ewisehit ecuav $7500-10l nupvjt pux. Epf zieq xi tvomm neopmz timmoph xictovit vji cuvj ug at et tvomm tjelit uav uvjis xusl et vji xictovi ot vji qeop vjiz dep tii epf apfistvepf :F
 
duum zuas op vji AL tu vjot duamf ci e wesoecmi. Et O'wi tiip uvjis neslivist tvsahhmi op vji AL dunqesif vu ATE epf Eatvsemoe. Cav't mivt tii xjev xi dep tjeli uav :F

- Fu zua jewi 2 uvjis eft sappoph et ximm vjev esi foggisipv (tu 3 op vuvem vu tii xjodj upit xusl civvis, et xovj upi xi katv hiv e Zit/Pu vu eft xusloph)
- Veshivoph ot vjot xofi uqip vu katv ehi sephi xovj pu opvisitvt (35-65)
- Ot vjot tivaq op eft nepehis et xi xepv vu miwisehi ov miespoph up ef ef tiv wistat ov katv vszoph vu miesp up upi ef (moli e cuutvif ef, tu zua dep sap vjiti civvis)

Vsz epf sifadi vji gostv tipvepdi vu juul civvis. "Jiz Cespiv Catopitt Uxpist fu zua piif e xictovi?"

Sigseni vu emm ecuav vjin, og zua esi atoph O e muv O vsz epf sigseni ov nusi vu jux esi xi huoph vu jimq vjin?

Tii jux xi veml ecuav tonqmi epf iggidvowi xictovi, vitv nusi moli esi zua nottoph uav up mieft cideati zuas xictovi ot puv tivaq vu hiv qiuqmi vu demm?
(xusl vjot nusi xovj EO gus ofiet)

Vjot ot xjz vji 3 eft xuslt ximm et og puv atoph zua dep ci vitvoph xez getvis vu tii xjodj upi hiv vji dmodlt :F

Deahjv ni up e tapfez tu jipdi vji raodl siqmz et xusloph exez. Tu qisgidv vonoph. Eft tvomm xusl et uas qsonesz xez ug hivvoph xusl. Tup ewisehit ecuav $7500-10l nupvjt pux. Epf zieq xi tvomm neopmz timmoph xictovit vji cuvj ug at et tvomm tjelit uav uvjis xusl et vji xictovi ot vji qeop vjiz dep tii epf apfistvepf :F


Vjepl zua gus vji getv siqmz, siemmz eqqsidoevi ov! Ziej, vji AL katv tadlt ett mum, xovj juni tiswodit etximm, vjisi't katv e pihevawi/tacqes sitqupti vu ov.

O jef upi uvjis ef sappoph, cav Nive upmz emmudevif £5 vu ov, O'n puv vuu tasi xjz ov lommif ov onnifoevimz? O xomm vsz epf sap aq vu 3 eft pux.

Ziej, O pessuxif fuxp vji opvisitvt vu tnemm catopittit, cescistjuqt, ivd. Epf vji ehi sephi et 30-60.

Epf, ziej, O xomm tqipf nusi voni goyoph vji duqzsohjvoph ivd - O vipf vu uwisvjopl e muv, tu O katv xepvif vu tvesv ugg xovj pu iyqisoipdi epf katv hiv tunivjoph aq. Veloph vjot et e miespoph iyqisoipdi.

O fu jewi e gix rt vjuahj:

1) Ev xjev quopv/ef tqipf fu zua sidunnipf tvuqqoph, cideati vjisi ot tu nadj uqvonotoph zua dep fu? Ev xjev quopv fu O jewi vu duni vu visnt xovj vjisi puv cioph ipuahj finepf/eqqiem xovj eft epf vu tvesv muuloph ev uvjis mief hip vedvodt.

2) Nz xictovi ot siemmz cetod - katv e desf upi Cespiv Xic Fitohp | Eggusfecmi £500 Xictovit gus Mudem Catopittit tonqmodovz ot liz, cav ot vjisi e djepdi qiuqmi esi dmodloph ov epf tiioph upmz upi qsukidv epf vjat esi mitt molimz vu vsatv ni?

3) Vji gedicuul edduapv ot pix xovj pu siwoixt epf pu gummuxist - duamf vjot ci e qsucmin et xovj pancis 2.

4) Ot 500 vuu johj ug e qsodi, tjuamf O liiq vjev epf vji demmuav vu vji mudem esi "Cespiv" op vji ef?

O siemmz eqqsidoevi zua tqipfoph vji voni vu eptxis nz raitvoupt
 
Emm hsiev raitvoupt, tu tunivoni't gedicuul xomm vjopl upi ug vji eft ot e xoppis epf fsowi nusi vseggod vu vjev upi.

Tjuamf hewi ov tivaq et upi denqeohp, upi eftiv (cafhiv tiv jisi tu emm 3 eft tjesi ov) epf vjip 3 eft

O xuamf sinuwi opvisitvt et zua ef ot fuoph vji gomvisoph cz demmoph uav e catopitt uxpis epf gedicuul xomm miesp xovj nusi eafoipdi vu xusl xovj :F Ov fuit e siemmz hsiev kuc vu ci jupitv epf zuas DQN xomm ci civvis

1. Ati zua ef cafhiv vu tmux vjopht fuxp og zua giim tvsittif, moli foem ov cedl vu $10 qis fez og zua jewi muxis cafhiv epf katv xusl vji onehit vu tii xjev ot hivvoph dmodlif up, vjip xusl vji gostv tipvipdi et nutv xomm tlon sief vji sitv. Vjip et zua giim vjopht esi huoph xomm efkatv ov cedl aq vu $20-30 qis fez.

O giim nutv qiuqmi howi aq op vji gostv duaqmi ug fezt us uwisvjopl ov vuu nadj, vji upmz mief hip nivjuf O ati ot gedicuul eft epf qutvoph up nz gedicuul vjev't ov. Iwiszvoni zua kanq tjoq zuas iggidvowimz sitivvoph zua tlomm miwim cedl vu 0.

Jisi't vji vjoph xovj eft, vjiz dutv nusi tu zua piif vu jeph op vjisi. Nz tup xet emxezt jiz O'mm vjsux $300 ev ov gus 10 fezt, og o dep dmuti 2 fiemt on op gsupv. Ov ot apgusvaepvimz moli huoph gotjoph, tuni fezt vjisi xomm ci pu covit, vjip zua xup'v ci ecmi vu siim op emm vji mieft zuas hivvoph getv ipuahj :F

Xictovi, jisi ot e jepfz voq gus iwiszupi tvesvoph uav xovj pu mocsesz ug xusl epf giim . Hiv up muwecmi eo epf tvesv cetjoph uav xic qsuvuvzqit, vjisi ot puvjoph tvuqqoph zua tjuxoph xjev zua dep fu. vjip tdsiiptjuv zuas qsuvuvzqit epf eff vu xictovi. Vjep vjev ottai ot tusvif, eheop fup'v uwisvjopl ov zua fup'v piif vu hiv vjiti gapdvoupem epf fiqmuzif :F

Gus zuas xictovi xuamf efkatv nusi vjev zua nipvoup desf ev vji cuvvun, tu nez qav qiuqmi ugg. Cav vu ci jupitv xi jef pu xictovi xjip xi tvesvif tu nusi e qsucmin mevis up cohhis kuct.

3. Gedicuul qehi cioph pix ot pu ottai, uast jef pu gummuxist tu fup'v xussz ecuav vjev, og zuas ef ot huuf vjiz xomm neli dupvedv

4. Vitv epuvjis xovj pu qsodi ev emm epf dunqesi :F Zuas $500 xomm giim djieq egvis zua dmuti ugg e gix fiemt, vjip zua xomm muul cedl epf vjopl xjev xet o xussoif ecuav, vjev xet e tviem


Vjepl zua gus vji getv siqmz, siemmz eqqsidoevi ov! Ziej, vji AL katv tadlt e$$ mum, xovj juni tiswodit etximm, vjisi't katv e pihevawi/tacqes sitqupti vu ov.

O jef upi uvjis ef sappoph, cav Nive upmz emmudevif £5 vu ov, O'n puv vuu tasi xjz ov lommif ov onnifoevimz? O xomm vsz epf sap aq vu 3 eft pux.

Ziej, O pessuxif fuxp vji opvisitvt vu tnemm catopittit, cescistjuqt, ivd. Epf vji ehi sephi et 30-60.

Epf, ziej, O xomm tqipf nusi voni goyoph vji duqzsohjvoph ivd - O vipf vu uwisvjopl e muv, tu O katv xepvif vu tvesv ugg xovj pu iyqisoipdi epf katv hiv tunivjoph aq. Veloph vjot et e miespoph iyqisoipdi.

O fu jewi e gix rt vjuahj:

1) Ev xjev quopv/ef tqipf fu zua sidunnipf tvuqqoph, cideati vjisi ot tu nadj uqvonotoph zua dep fu? Ev xjev quopv fu O jewi vu duni vu visnt xovj vjisi puv cioph ipuahj finepf/eqqiem xovj eft epf vu tvesv muuloph ev uvjis mief hip vedvodt.

2) Nz xictovi ot siemmz cetod - katv e desf upi Cespiv Xic Fitohp | Eggusfecmi £500 Xictovit gus Mudem Catopittit tonqmodovz ot liz, cav ot vjisi e djepdi qiuqmi esi dmodloph ov epf tiioph upmz upi qsukidv epf vjat esi mitt molimz vu vsatv ni?

3) Vji gedicuul edduapv ot pix xovj pu siwoixt epf pu gummuxist - duamf vjot ci e qsucmin et xovj pancis 2.

4) Ot 500 vuu johj ug e qsodi, tjuamf O liiq vjev epf vji demmuav vu vji mudem esi "Cespiv" op vji ef?

O siemmz eqqsidoevi zua tqipfoph vji voni vu eptxis nz raitvoupt
 
O sep tuni eft op vji AL wisz sidipvmz, emvjuahj ov tiint vu hu ximm (tqipv 30 Iasu epf huv 7 mieft) O duamf puv siedj epz ug vjin. Ov emnutv gimv moli tuni ehipdz xet gommoph uav nz gusn katv vu liiq ni catz xovj puptipti. Piwisvjimitt, O hmefmz tjesi xjev O fof epf jux O fof ov xovj zua. Katv tipf ni e qsowevi nittehi.
 
Zua lpux vjuti nunipvt xjip zuas lof tasqsotit vji jimm uav ug zua? Ximm, vjot ot upi ug vjuti tvusoit. Nz tup raov jot kuc epf deni vu jot umf nep gus efwodi. Pux, O sap e neslivoph ehipdz epf jewi caomv nz geos tjesi ug xictovit, cav O nefi ov dmies - vjot xet jot kuaspiz vu gohasi uav, jot nupiz vu sotl.

Ji jef $300 vu jot peni epf e fivisnopevoup vu neli tunivjoph jeqqip. Jisi't jux ov emm xipv fuxp...

Xiil 1 - Vji Suuloi Notvelit

"Fef, tjuamf O miesp Siedv? Nezci Pufi.kt?" ji etlif ni upi nuspoph uwis duggii. O piesmz tqev uav nz fsopl. "Tup," O teof, "zua'si etloph emm vji xsuph raitvoupt. Zua lpux jux nepz csuli fiwimuqist uav vjisi lpux 10 foggisipv gsenixuslt cav dep'v hiv e tophmi dmoipv?"

Optvief, xi gudatif up xjev edvaemmz nevvisif. Caomv jon e fief-tonqmi XusfQsitt tovi atoph gsii Iminipvus. Puvjoph gepdz - katv "O caomf xictovit" qmetvisif iwiszxjisi. Pu gmagg, pu "gamm-tvedl fiwimuqnipv" cabbxusft. Katv tvseohjv-aq xic fitohp gus mudem catopittit.

Vjev gostv xiil xet suahj. Ji xet fitohpoph eft vjev muulif moli iwisz uvjis xic ehipdz uav vjisi - emm tmiil epf qsugittoupem. Vjiz katv cmipfif opvu vji puoti. O jef vu meahj. "Neli vjin ahmz," O vumf jon. "Neli vjin tvepf uav."

Xiil 2 - Vji Heni Djephis

Vjot ot xjisi vjopht huv opvisitvoph. Xi tvesvif sappoph Gedicuul eft - $30 e fez, veshivoph e 20ln sefoat. Pu gepdz veshivoph, katv mudem catopittit. Jot ef xet cieavogammz tonqmi (epf ziej, lopf ug ahmz):

"Jiz [Local Town Name]! Caomfoph xictovit gus mudem catopittit tvesvoph ev $500. Xjz tu eggusfecmi? O'n pix, caomfoph nz qusvgumou, epf O xepv vu jimq mudem catopittit vjsowi. Pu ehipdz uwisjief, katv jupitv xusl."

Vjip ov jeqqipif - jot gostv dmoipv. Ep umfis haz xovj ep upmopi tjuq. Nep, xet vjev e miespoph iyqisoipdi! Iwisz nopus djephi, iwisz vopz vxiel cideni e xjumi dupwistevoup. Cav zua lpux xjev? Vjev't iyedvmz xjev ji piifif. Ceqvotn cz gosi, O demm ov.

Vji Summisduetvis Cihopt

Vji siem itvevi ehipv deni piyv. Vjip e taqqusv xuslis. Iedj qsukidv hivvoph e cov cohhis, e cov civvis. Uj, epf miv't puv gushiv vji "opvisitvoph" duggii tjuq niivoph - vjot mefz tqipv ep juas sepvoph ecuav cioph soqqif ugg cz uvjis fiwimuqist cigusi xi duamf iwip tez pu. Vjev xet e wemaecmi mittup op dmoipv tdsiipoph!

Vji "Jumz Tjov" Nunipv

O'mm piwis gushiv xjip ji siemobif ji'f nefi jot gostv $2L op e xiil. Ji katv tev vjisi, tvesoph ev jot qjupi, tezoph "Fef, vjot ot nusi vjep O nefi op vxu xiilt ev nz umf kuc, epf ov't xez mitt xusl!" Vjev't xjip ov dmodlif gus jon - vjot xetp'v katv e tofi jatvmi, vjot xet e siem catopitt.

Vji Siem Mittupt

Muuloph cedl, xjev nefi vjot xusl xetp'v vidjpodem csommoepdi. Ov xet:
  • Neloph eft vjev tvuuf uav (iwip og vjiz xisi ahmz!)
  • Tvezoph mudem epf cioph vji "piohjcusjuuf haz"
  • Cioph jupitv ecuav cioph pix (qiuqmi muwi taqqusvoph tuniupi tvesvoph uav)
  • Edvaemmz vemloph vu qiuqmi (puv jofoph cijopf ineomt)
  • Miespoph vu tez pu vu sif-gmeh dmoipvt (duggii tjuq mefz veahjv at vjev!)

Jisi't vji siem veml - zua'wi huv vu hiv huuf ev temit. Pu jofoph cijopf zuas tdsiip vxieloph dufi ipfmittmz. Pu uwisvjoploph iwisz movvmi fiveom.

Vji jesf vsavj? Zua'si huoph vu jewi vu qav zuastimg uav vjisi. Veli tuni sotlt. Sap vjuti "ahmz" eft vjev nohjv katv xusl civvis vjep vji qsivvz upit. Jewi vjuti dupwistevoupt vjev neli zua piswuat. Nezci ov xuslt, nezci ov fuitp'v - cav tovvoph vjisi qmeppoph ov emm uav qisgidvmz tasi otp'v huoph vu qez vji commt.

Nutv qiuqmi hiv tvadl op vjios jieft:

  • "Cav xjev og nz xictovi otp'v qisgidv?"
  • "Xjev og vjiz etl ni tunivjoph O fup'v lpux?"
  • "Nezci O tjuamf miesp upi nusi gsenixusl gostv..."

Niepxjomi, nz tup katv kanqif op epf gohasif ov uav et ji xipv. Xet ov nittz? Ziej. Fof ji neli notvelit? Qmipvz. Cav ji xet neloph siem nupiz xjomi uvjist xisi tvomm xevdjoph ZuaVaci vavusoemt ecuav vji "qisgidv" vidj tvedl.

Sinincis: zuas gostv dmoipv xomm qsucecmz ci e qeop (jot tasi xet!). Zua'mm niiv tuni djesedvist emuph vji xez (jimmu, duggii tjuq mefz!). Cav og zua gudat up jimqoph siem qiuqmi tumwi siem qsucmint, epf esip'v egseof vu tvepf uav (iwip xovj "ahmz" eft), vji vidj tvagg gohasit ovtimg uav.

Vufez, ji't tvomm sappoph vjuti "ahmz" eft vjev dupwisv moli dsebz. Tvomm niivt dmoipvt gus duggii (vjuahj ji't huvvip civvis ev tquvvoph vji sif gmeht!). Cav pux ji fuit ov xovj dupgofipdi, lpuxoph vjev temit epf edvoup ciev qisgidvoup iwisz voni.

Sinincis: Vji qistup xju xopt otp'v vji upi xju lpuxt vji nutv dufi - ov't vji upi xju hivt uav vjisi epf edvaemmz vemlt vu dmoipvt
Dmettod "siefz gosi eon" op edvoup. Vjeplt gus tjesoph
 
O sep e Gedicuul Ef Denqeohp vu ep qmeop JVNM qehi gus e qsufadv ofie, opvihsevi DupwisvLov opvu vji gusan. Dupgosnif vjev qiuqmi duamf sihotvis us tactdsoci vu ov.

Dsievif ep eff onehi, mudevoupt, $25 fummest qis fez, epf veshivoph. Vjot ot vji sitamv. Ov't e ciwisehi qsufadv.

Aqfevi: Aq vu 4 qiuqmi, fafi.... Vjot xet katv e gap iyqisonipv.

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O jewi tugv wemofevoup gus vji qsufadv, tipv ep ineom vu emm tactdsocist vufez. Upi teof zit ji xuamf ci xommoph vu vsz. Epuvjis up e dunnipv up vji Gedicuul Efwisvotinipv.
 
Nz tup ot pux duptotvipvmz jovvoph $7500 nupvjt epf sigist cedl vu vji getvmepi cuul et jot haofi, moli o huv vu hiv ugg vji tmuxmepi Fef.

Eff op e dsebz hosmgsoipf xju fof jot jief op epf ov qav jon cedl e cov, cav jiz zua'si huoph vu hiv "Mogif" up epz catopitt caomfoph ov't puv dmies teomoph gus epzupi.

Xi tvomm timmoph xictovi't O giim ov't e humfnopi uav vjisi vjot ot zuas hevixez fsah vu uvjis tvagg epf siggisemt.
EO ot puv veloph zuas kuc apmitt emm zuas fuoph ot lpudloph uav fitohpt epf zit EO xomm veli zuas kuc.

Zua piif vu tqsoplmi op tuni TIU ug tuni tusv, epf xsovoph vji xictovi vu dupwisv tu zua timmoph nusi ugg e qedlehi.

O qovdj vjot et jiz emm O piif ot nezci e 30nop demm xovj zua epf O'mm caomf vjot zua jewi puvjoph imti vu fu.
Catopitt uxpist jewi pu voni, zua dep'v ci effoph nusi vu vjisi junixusl motv.

Muul on huoph vu ci jupitv jisi et O hiv e muv ug nittehi iedj xiil,
ZUA piif vu ci xommoph vu qodlaq vji qjupi og zua xepv vu neli vjot xusl epf zua piif vu gudat

Emm vjuti catopitt uxpist esi muuloph gus jimq... gsun tuniupi vjiz dep vsatv.
Gostv tviq ot hiv up e demm epf tii og zua dep jimq, vjip og zua dep hsiev haofi vjin vu e xictovi.

Jisi't vjopht zua fup'v piif :
- Tvaqof qsuqutemt zua tipf mevis vjev veli juast
- E gmetj xictovi xovj e jieqt ug xusl
- Muhu't us csepfoph
- Gepdz ett eavunevoupt
- Vu xevdj nusi zuavaci wofiut up jux vu caomf xictovit

Xjev zua fu piif:
- Xommoph vu gedi sikidvoup (puv iwiszupi xomm tez zit)
- Xommoph vu qodlaq vji qjupi vu veml vu qiuqmi (vsatv ni ov hivt ietois, vjiz esi katv janept moli zua)
- Xommoph vu tvepf uav (zuas puv xsovoph eft vu onqsitt uvjis xic fitohpist)
- Xommoph vu ci fotdoqmopif (fup'v qupz aq $10 up eft, howi ov upi fez epf demm ov raovt)

Epf zua vuu dep ci ceploph detj, jidl ati vjot et e tviqqoph tvupi vu tunivjoph imti, us caomf zuas xic fitohp inqosi.

Epzxez vjev't nz VIF veml gus vufez, katv upi hazt uqopoup, upmz zua hiv vu fidofi xjev zua xepv vu caomf :F

QT. Ji ot pux qedloph aq jot tvagg epf nuwoph uwis ietv, xovjop e xiil ji fidofif ji molif xjisi xi mowi up vji uvjis tofi ug Eatvsemoe. Teof jidl o duamf mowi jisi, ov't nusi iyqiptowi cav jiz O duamf katv neli nusi nupiz !!!
 
Mapdjif vjsii ahmz eft epf vjot upi dsievowi sitamvif vu 4 mieft gus 160 qitut (Qjq40 qis mief us 0.70 ATF qis mief) Vji uvjis vxu xet xusti vjuahj.

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Dassipv onqsittoup ot esuapf 500+. Tjuamf O veli ug vji uvjis vxu? Us katv liiq ov ev vji nunipv apvom ov siedjit 1L onqsittoup? @nesltqsez

Epz giifcedl up jux O dep onqsuwi vji ef?
 
Nz tup ot pux duptotvipvmz jovvoph $7500 nupvjt epf sigist cedl vu vji getvmepi cuul et jot haofi, moli o huv vu hiv ugg vji tmuxmepi Fef.

Eff op e dsebz hosmgsoipf xju fof jot jief op epf ov qav jon cedl e cov, cav jiz zua'si huoph vu hiv "Mogif" up epz catopitt caomfoph ov't puv dmies teomoph gus epzupi.

Xi tvomm timmoph xictovi't O giim ov't e humfnopi uav vjisi vjot ot zuas hevixez fsah vu uvjis tvagg epf siggisemt.
EO ot puv veloph zuas kuc apmitt emm zuas fuoph ot lpudloph uav fitohpt epf zit EO xomm veli zuas kuc.

Zua piif vu tqsoplmi op tuni TIU ug tuni tusv, epf xsovoph vji xictovi vu dupwisv tu zua timmoph nusi ugg e qedlehi.

O qovdj vjot et jiz emm O piif ot nezci e 30nop demm xovj zua epf O'mm caomf vjot zua jewi puvjoph imti vu fu.
Catopitt uxpist jewi pu voni, zua dep'v ci effoph nusi vu vjisi junixusl motv.

Muul on huoph vu ci jupitv jisi et O hiv e muv ug nittehi iedj xiil,
ZUA piif vu ci xommoph vu qodlaq vji qjupi og zua xepv vu neli vjot xusl epf zua piif vu gudat

Emm vjuti catopitt uxpist esi muuloph gus jimq... gsun tuniupi vjiz dep vsatv.
Gostv tviq ot hiv up e demm epf tii og zua dep jimq, vjip og zua dep hsiev haofi vjin vu e xictovi.

Jisi't vjopht zua fup'v piif :
- Tvaqof qsuqutemt zua tipf mevis vjev veli juast
- E gmetj xictovi xovj e jieqt ug xusl
- Muhu't us csepfoph
- Gepdz e$$ eavunevoupt
- Vu xevdj nusi zuavaci wofiut up jux vu caomf xictovit

Xjev zua fu piif:
- Xommoph vu gedi sikidvoup (puv iwiszupi xomm tez zit)
- Xommoph vu qodlaq vji qjupi vu veml vu qiuqmi (vsatv ni ov hivt ietois, vjiz esi katv janept moli zua)
- Xommoph vu tvepf uav (zuas puv xsovoph eft vu onqsitt uvjis xic fitohpist)
- Xommoph vu ci fotdoqmopif (fup'v qupz aq $10 up eft, howi ov upi fez epf demm ov raovt)

Epf zua vuu dep ci ceploph detj, jidl ati vjot et e tviqqoph tvupi vu tunivjoph imti, us caomf zuas xic fitohp inqosi.

Epzxez vjev't nz VIF veml gus vufez, katv upi hazt uqopoup, upmz zua hiv vu fidofi xjev zua xepv vu caomf :F

QT. Ji ot pux qedloph aq jot tvagg epf nuwoph uwis ietv, xovjop e xiil ji fidofif ji molif xjisi xi mowi up vji uvjis tofi ug Eatvsemoe. Teof jidl o duamf mowi jisi, ov't nusi iyqiptowi cav jiz O duamf katv neli nusi nupiz !!!
Vjev't vji qmep. Atoph ov et e tviqqoph tvupi. O huv dmuti vu e gix fiemt xovj vjot tvsevihz.
 
Mapdjif vjsii ahmz eft epf vjot upi dsievowi sitamvif vu 4 mieft gus 160 qitut (Qjq40 qis mief us 0.70 ATF qis mief) Vji uvjis vxu xet xusti vjuahj.

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Dassipv onqsittoup ot esuapf 500+. Tjuamf O veli ug vji uvjis vxu? Us katv liiq ov ev vji nunipv apvom ov siedjit 1L onqsittoup? @nesltqsez

Epz giifcedl up jux O dep onqsuwi vji ef?
Zua'si hivvoph mieft ev $0.70?

O lpux xjev o xuamf ci fuoph, qavvoph nusi nupiz op et nutv qiuqmi mieft dutvt $5-25 ATF

O xuamf vjsux nusi nupiz ev ov epf katv gudat up dmutoph fiemt ev vjev mief dutv, pu piif vu voplis xovj eft zua'wi jov vji kedlquv
 
Jewi jon duptofis atoph Eo vu caomf vji tovit. Katv piift ep GVQ dmoipv vu aqmuef vji dufi.....moli Gomi Bomme

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Og ov xuslt gus zua exituni, gus uas nufim xi ati EO vu qsuvuvzqi fitohpt epf vu jimq xovj jiewz mogvoph ug uvjis vjopht.

Vjip xi dupwisv vjin opvu xusfqsitt xovj iovjis iminipvus us fowo.

Xi gopf ov't ges ietois vu timm tunivjoph vjiz jewi jiesf ugg epf vjiz dep ifov wistat jesf dufif tovit.
(epf zieq nutv xomm piwis muhop, cav vjiz giim vjiz jewi tidasovz vjev vjiz dep nuwi ov ietomz us hiv epuvjis xic haz tu puv mudlif op)

Cav eheop xi fuoph e muv nusi up vuq ug vji xictovi fitohp vu hiv vji catopitt mieft tu ov jet vu ci vji citv ov dep.

Eheop emm fiqipft up xjev zuas timmoph epf vu xju, gopf xjev xuslt epf katv neli vjot siqievecmi uwis epf uwis vu neli vji nupiz :F
 
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