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Paul David

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I moved from Scotland to Spain and it was game-changing.

Back in Scotland now. The weather certainly impacts your health and well-being. THAT SAID, in my home country there are other factors that I can't get in Spain.

You have to weigh up what is most important to you. But yeah, photobiomodulation suggests that light is very, very important to our health.

Are you back living in Scotland?

The UK weather is just not for me and never will be. Work all week waiting for the weekend then the choices are go for a walk/hike in the rain or walk down the beach and get your face blown off by the wind.

All the kids want to do is play on computers. There's a better life.

Everyday is about getting up and taking steps to the day I can leave this country to live somewhere else. However brexit hasn't helped also. Not sure how that's going to affect living in Spain but I'll make it happen.
 
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Are you back living in Scotland?

The UK weather is just not for me and never will be. Work all week waiting for the weekend then the choices are go for a walk/hike in the rain or walk down the beach and get your face blown off by the wind.

All the kids want to do is play on computers. There's a better life.

Everyday is about getting up and taking steps to the day I can leave this country to live somewhere else. However brexit hasn't helped also. Not sure how that's going to affect living in Spain but I'll make it happen.
Yes, when covid kicked off we got out on the first available day we could fly back. Spain was pretty hardcore with the lockdown and I wasn't sure how things were going to pan out so wanted to be in my own country for a number of reasons.

Spain life was epic. We lived 9 months there and 3 months in Scotland in "Summer" and it was a really great balance. You're right, when we were over there we were outdoors a lot more and my kids have been on screens a lot more since we came back.

Like I said above, there are pros and cons to every country. We were resident in Spain which came with its own stipulations like having private health insurance etc. I'd like to go back but it'll more likely be 9 months here and 3 months there going forward.
 

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For the last half-year, I have been studying in a nordic country and I realized how important it was for me to be in a warm climate and to have hours of daylight.
 

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I moved from Michigan to Arizona just over 1 yr ago. Am I happier? No. But then I don't let my life circumstances determine my level of happiness.

Do I enjoy it here more than MI? 100%! With 1.8 million acres of National Forest surrounding me, there's plenty of outdoor activity to do which I love. There's even water to go kayaking! If I feel like skiing I drive North 1hr. If I feel chilly during the winter months, I drive South a bit.

People are outdoors more here and I have really great conversations. People's moods are more positive.

I've always felt you need to live in a place for 1 yr to know if it's where you want to stay. As of today, I don't think I will stay here. I will scale out my business here but the city has a lot of challenges and a LOT of tourists(to the point where the locals are just pissed off).

Once you know what you don't want....you know what you DO want.
 
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I've always felt you need to live in a place for 1 yr to know if it's where you want to stay. As of today, I don't think I will stay here. I will scale out my business here but the city has a lot of challenges and a LOT of tourists(to the point where the locals are just pissed off).

What's the next destination?
 

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Has anyone tried splitting their time between two places? I live in Edmonton Alberta and I love the summers here but I'm disliking the winters more and more every year. Since I don't have a traditional job this might be a little easier for me but I'm wondering if anyone else has experience with this? ie Edmonton during the summers and California/Hawaii etc for the winters
 

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Has anyone tried splitting their time between two places? I live in Edmonton Alberta and I love the summers here but I'm disliking the winters more and more every year. Since I don't have a traditional job this might be a little easier for me but I'm wondering if anyone else has experience with this? ie Edmonton during the summers and California/Hawaii etc for the winters

I sort of did it last year. February-July in Barbados, August-October in Poland, October-December a road trip through Europe and spending a few weeks in southern Spain (spring/summer weather). It was much easier to survive winter in Poland later (though we planned to escape in February again so originally only wanted to stay for January).

This fall we plan to leave again, come back for Christmas, and then hopefully leave after Christmas again. I can't stand Polish winters no matter how much I try.

I think it may be the best of both worlds. Summer in temperate climates can be pretty nice, while summer in hot places is sometimes too hot (and often crowded with tourists).
 
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What's the next destination?
Uncertain. We'll be here for another year I think to build up the businesses. Idea is to sell one business and scale the other(if it works). We'll road trip it in the early Fall to look for other places to live. We'll start with North and West of here. I'm taking global warming into considerations as I have kids and want to leave them some properties in areas that will be pleasant to live in 20-30 yrs from now.
 

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Oh help.. I have just temporarily moved from the warm north NSW Australia to the freezing cold, locked down Melbourne :/
 

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Such an actual subject for me although not actually being able to do it but id love to move from Paris down to the French Riviera as a French Resident, life is as expensive but so much better and i kinda feel 'at home' when im down there..something im sure about is that i dont belong in Paris, just need to build online businesses to allow flexibility.
 
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One of things I've been thinking about recently is how your surroundings can hinder your goals for some people but have the opposite affect for others.

Example: I want to live in Spain. Or at least travel a lot more. You'd think each day I feel miserable when it's cold and raining etc would spur me on to grow my business in order to be able to achieve my goal. It actually tends to have a negative affect.

All the vices and habits i've built up in this location take over each day, I'm talking about eating poorly, staying in bed because its cold and dark (although it's summer at the moment so I'm happier!), sitting watching TV of a night instead of working more. Hanging about drinking with friends who quite frankly will never amount to anything other than working 5 days and spending 2 days in the pub every weekend.

However for lots of people they use that pain, negative opinions of their current location as fuel for growth!
 

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One of things I've been thinking about recently is how your surroundings can hinder your goals for some people but have the opposite affect for others.

Example: I want to live in Spain. Or at least travel a lot more. You'd think each day I feel miserable when it's cold and raining etc would spur me on to grow my business in order to be able to achieve my goal. It actually tends to have a negative affect.

All the vices and habits i've built up in this location take over each day, I'm talking about eating poorly, staying in bed because its cold and dark (although it's summer at the moment so I'm happier!), sitting watching TV of a night instead of working more. Hanging about drinking with friends who quite frankly will never amount to anything other than working 5 days and spending 2 days in the pub every weekend.

However for lots of people they use that pain, negative opinions of their current location as fuel for growth!
Can you build your business from Spain?

From my experience the economic climate is a lot worse in Spain than in Western Europe. I've lived in Spain for three years working a job in my early twenties. When working a job it's not much better than working in The Netherlands.

Pay is extremely low, rents are high because you need to live in a city for work and doing 9-6 every day isn't more fun than in my home country. And you still have to do all the other tasks you do every day, like groceries, house cleaning, laundry, etc. It just feels like another home, albeit with sunshine.

But with worse pay and annoyances because many things are not as well organized as they are in the North of Europe. I still haven't regretted the decision of moving back to The Netherlands. I was able to get a well paid job and buy a house. I was able to start businesses and finally have two which are picking up momentum.

Now, if you own a thriving business it's completely different story. But as long as you can't survive on your business profit I wouldn't make the jump. The gain in sunshine doesn't weigh up against the loss in economic climate. At least in my opinion.
 
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Summer is slowly coming to an end in Poland and I'm already starting to feel depressed. It sounds like a first world problem but each time fall approaches, it provokes a deep trauma in me that makes me think of death. No amount of "spiritual" work helps me overcome the deep, deep hate I have for the fall and winter and the sadness it causes.

Within a week or two I won't be able to swim anymore in the lake (it's already much colder). Nights are getting chillier already. Sun is lower in the sky and in a few days it'll be too low to make the body produce vitamin D (the angle needs to be above 50 degrees). Before I know it, it'll be September and even if it's going to be sunny, the days will keep getting shorter and colder and I'll have to wait EIGHT f***ing months for good weather again.

This year I plan to leave for the fall and return for Christmas and then hopefully leave again in January but it all depends on the BS restrictions.

@Paul David how are you?
 

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Summer is slowly coming to an end in Poland and I'm already starting to feel depressed. It sounds like a first world problem but each time fall approaches, it provokes a deep trauma in me that makes me think of death. No amount of "spiritual" work helps me overcome the deep, deep hate I have for the fall and winter and the sadness it causes.

Within a week or two I won't be able to swim anymore in the lake (it's already much colder). Nights are getting chillier already. Sun is lower in the sky and in a few days it'll be too low to make the body produce vitamin D (the angle needs to be above 50 degrees). Before I know it, it'll be September and even if it's going to be sunny, the days will keep getting shorter and colder and I'll have to wait EIGHT f***ing months for good weather again.

This year I plan to leave for the fall and return for Christmas and then hopefully leave again in January but it all depends on the BS restrictions.

@Paul David how are you?
It's started raining here in Alaska. Mom used to tell me every August that it will rain until it snows in October. She's been gone for years, but she's still right. The leaves will start dropping in the next couple of weeks. The berries are starting to ripen as our summer winds down. The salmon are running up the rivers and moose hunting season will start soon. Our first good freeze is about 6 weeks away. Our daylight hours are getting shorter and shorter every day. By Christmas we'll have some dusky light for 5 or 6 hours per day. BUT, it's been a glorious summer -- the green of the plants was so intense that it almost hurt my eyes to look at them. And life is good!
 

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It's rained the last 3 weeks here in Ireland and it's really starting to piss me off. I'm outta here in December. Moving to sunny to Spain so I get at least 300 days of it a year.

I hired a mentor last year and he told me I suffer from seasonal depression. He said he used to live in San Francisco and it happened him too so he moved to Florida.

It really is a thing that some people need to perform at their best.
 
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I woke up today at my usual 5am, started up coffee maker and looked outside into darkness with flickering city lights in the distance and realized, days are shorter, this sucks. All the while we have a heatwave and it will be soon cooking inside my house even with the AC.

I don’t like the darkness of winters. Maybe that’s why I tend to do more intense training workouts in the mornings in the winter.

Visited a new acquaintance and potential business partner for a lunch at his house, a waterfront with mesmerizing views 180 degrees. Stunning, just stunning views and all in great company.

It hit me, @Kak is right… we deserve to be happy and celebrate wins. Just because I woke up to a shorter day doesn’t matter. I’m one lucky SOB.
 

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Definitely thinking about moving somewhere warm in France or near the Adriatic sea, maybe Montenegro.We had no summer here in Paris,absolute none its grey and we had 1 week of sunny days and extreme heat then it all stopped.

Need to find a way to be able to live there with a laptop based business first.
 
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