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Do you try to leverage this in your business?

It's the age-old adage:
To sell anything, you have to sell yourself first.

My current favourite example of this is Emiri Aizawa.

For those of you who don't know her, the TL;DR story is, she started off leaving home broke, never attended college.
Then she started being a club hostess in various parts of Japan and eventually becoming no. 1 wanted.
When she got famous enough, she started her own fashion line, now raking in huge passive income.
Now currently (according to her instagram) she travels pretty much full time & lives unbelievably extravagantly (I know, I know, there's a lot of fake on instagram, but the profits of her business is a fact).

I've checked out her fashion line. It's nothing special (trust, many many Japanese brands have similar products), so obviously, she's banking mostly on her looks (she has that caucasionized doll-like look the Japanese love, and is the model for her own brand), and partly her previous success as a hostess (she's quit that slow-lane 'business' already, obviously).

But she's truly self-made.

Another example is Kylie Jenner, but she already had her family behind her before she sold anything.

What do you think of this?
Would you ever try to 'throw yourself out there' and promote yourself first before you ever try to sell anything?
If you succeed, you, yourself will become The Brand, and absolutely no-one, no wannabe, can ever replicate or separate it from you. You save on advertisement, SEO, (or whatever is 'in') simply because people already know and search for your name.

Of course the downside is, you'd also have to deal with the fame (some may think it is a positive, but I personally don't).
Well?
 

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You play the cards you're dealt.

If you're good looking, then you find areas where that's an advantage and play your hand accordingly.

If you're ugly, then the same thing. There's many areas where ugly people come off as "more trustworthy".

Your post seems to be geared towards women. If I was a woman, I'd place myself in a position where my value is highest. In my opinion that'd be a client facing sales position in tech. If you're an attractive woman in tech, dress modestly and professionally, and have a modicum of understanding of the subject matter, then you're lightyears ahead of any guy. You go to the top conferences, strike up conversations with the top guys, build your network, and slowly climb the influence ladder while making sales and getting paid handsomely.

My approach would be closer to Whitney Wolfe, the founder of Bumble: Whitney Wolfe Herd - Wikipedia.

In the "hostess" space as you described, she'd likely be a far cry from the prettiest hostess. In the tech space on the other hand she's definitely considered beautiful and one of the most desirable.
 
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In the "hostess" space as you described, she'd likely be a far cry from the prettiest hostess. In the tech space on the other hand she's definitely considered beautiful and one of the most desirable.
Serious? You've seen (many) hostesses prettier than her? I know beauty is in the eye of beholder, but she's pretty damn near the pinnacle in any space to me.

EDIT: Her instagram pictures are wayy better than the ones found on google, hehe. Check out the lifestyle as well.
 
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I think there's a downside to this. If you leverage your beauty like Kylie jenner or other instagram celebrities, your business depends on your appearance, it's not sustainable. Of course it is a fast money-getter but to scale it later, it's all determined by the scale of your fame, so not good in my opinion.
 
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I think there's a downside to this. If you leverage your beauty like Kylie jenner or other instagram celebrities, your business depends on your appearance, it's not sustainable. Of course it is a fast money-getter but to scale it later, it's all determined by the scale of your fame, so not good in my opinion.
This is a good point, but these ladies have made so much money already, that *if* they invest it wisely, it is enough for a passive pay-out for extravagant living for a lifetime. The value of having a brand that ppl will gladly shell out upwards of 10x more for is simply that explosive.

I haven't finished Unscripted yet, but it seems MJ focuses on business-building, and doesn't say much about investments.

Would love to hear his views on this.

Maybe time for a third book.. hopefully :smuggy:
 

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Serious? You've seen (many) hostesses prettier than her? I know beauty is in the eye of beholder, but she's pretty damn near the pinnacle in any space to me.

EDIT: Her instagram pictures are wayy better than the ones found on google, hehe. Check out the lifestyle as well.
Read my post. My comment wasn't on the girl you linked, but the founder of Bumble. Emiri is really attractive, but note that most of her face is fake. At quick glance it looks like at least nose, chin, and eyes. Nothing wrong with that, just something to consider if you're using her as a basis for "beauty".




Off-topic, but pro-tip for all the young travelers here:

Almost every major Asian city has a "Japanese lounge". They're weird places where 50 year old Japanese businessmen come, and pay to drink and hangout with young women. There's nothing sexual about it, just hanging out.

If you're a young guy, have decent conversational skills, and are single, then these places are a goldmine. You literally have 0 competition for some of the most desirable women (the top places will filter girls based on educational background, attractiveness, and ability to hold a conversation).

You go into one of these places, drink for six hours, and have a different girl "rotate" every 15 minutes. The business model assumes that you'll pay extra for the girl you like the most to drink with you. Don't do that. That's stupid. Instead, be honest with the girls. Say you're bored on a Wednesday night, are single, and just wanted to hangout and make friends with different people. If you're any good, you'll have an incredibly high percentage of girls give you their number. They'll offer it since they have 15 minutes before they can never see you again.

In my best night, I had over 10+ numbers.

These are the girls that you hit up during the day to show you around town. They work night time, and therefore are free during the day. Considering that they can't date during the evenings like most people, you're likely their best option, and someone they'd enjoy showing around town. Make sure to filter out the gold diggers, and you're golden.
 
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Whitney Wolfe Herd is pretty damn good-looking as well, oh well.

EDIT: Yea I see your point about the fakeness. I've noticed Caucasians don't like this. But the Japanese do. It just shows you only need to appeal to your culture, not even nationwide, and you can make it big.
 
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They say Fake it till you make it.

When it comes to Instagram Faking it can be very lucrative. Lilmiquela now has 1.6m followers. :blank:

 
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They say Fake it till you make it.

When it comes to Instagram Faking it can be very lucrative. Lilmiquela now has 1.6m followers. :blank:

Hahaha. Bought followers. Obvious from the high follower to engagement ratio.
She's a good-looking girl, so it's not -completely- unbelievable.

How is she making the dough, though? Influencer advertisements for products?
 

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I think in many ways success makes you attractive.

A good example is siblings where one is successful and the others aren't. Sometimes they look very similar but there is just more of a presence about the person who did really well. They are attractive.

Maybe your mindset shapes your genetics somewhat over a few years, maybe it is diet and focus, maybe it's investing in yourself, whichever - it is a trend I have seen over and over.


So some people might think "they are successful because they are good looking" I think a lot of the time its "because they become successful they are now good looking".
 

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So some people might think "they are successful because they are good looking" I think a lot of the time its "because they become successful they are now good looking".
Confidence creates its own attraction and intensity for certain. It could be argued that women are genetically attracted to success as they want their offspring to have the best chance of life. We might have moved forward quickly compared to our ancestors but our genes will take a long time to catch up.
 

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That's basically what Dan Bilzerian did.

1) Created this hardcore instagram profile to create an impression of stupid kid having fun for his dad's money
2) Attracted attention showing off lavish lifestyle, half naked girls, guns, villas, supercars etc
3) In the meanwhile, he focused 100% on learning how to play poker and becoming as good at it as possible (no distractions, only poker)
4) Started playing with the ultra rich. They mostly thought he's an idiot that could be played easily. He didn't have to be the best poker player, just better than the people he played with and they usually weren't pro poker players, just rich guys
5) Won fcktons of money over time
6) Reinvested the money to start a lucrative CBD/marijuana brand

(At least that's how he puts it)

The Kinobody guy could be another example. What they have in common is that they both had super rich families (and they look very good), but instead of taking it for granted, they used it in a smart way and built big biz empires/brands on their own.


So fake it till you make it certainly works on social media. And looks do help a ton. Depends on what and how do you want to do it. This might be great for extroverts.
 
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Oh well, he still had to be good at something, i.e. poker. That amount of faking will take a lot of effort too.

Of course the downside is, he's had 4 heart attacks? before 30.

Agree with the ppl above; there was a study which showed that upon interacting with you for a very short period of time, ppl can sense how well-off you are, how well-educated your parents are etc. etc. with astounding accuracy (with confounding factors such as appearance, clothing etc. accounted for). The cue is something non-tangible. So you can only 'fake it' so far.
 
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A good example is siblings where one is successful and the others aren't. Sometimes they look very similar but there is just more of a presence about the person who did really well. They are attractive.
D. Trump's brother (rip) would be a great example...
The guy couldn't take the pressure from their father, started drinking and either died from alcohol abuse or killed himself. As far as I know, both him and D. Trump were considered very attractive back in the day (and money/fame sure helped too).

Of course the downside is, he's had 4 heart attacks? before 30.
Yeah - lots of coke + weed + alcohol + too much viagra + probably some other drugs + too many girls, all in one evening :D
Poker doesn't have much to do with it.
And of course, you have to be good at something and work hard and smart, it's not just looks or rich family.
 

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I think when you reach your goals and live true to your purpose in life you just look and feel way better.

Also having the means to invest in diet, fitness, hair transplants, growth hormones, dental surgery doesn't hurt either. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Jokes aside - my point is that being successful will usually be linked to looking a lot better also.
There is a massive mind + wealth + image connection.
 

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Serious? You've seen (many) hostesses prettier than her? I know beauty is in the eye of beholder, but she's pretty damn near the pinnacle in any space to me.

EDIT: Her instagram pictures are wayy better than the ones found on google, hehe. Check out the lifestyle as well.
The upper portion of her face is disproportionately big.

Certainly she is above average looking but not impressive.

I would say she is in the same league as Thanos founder Elizabeth Holmes. Surely above average looking but not super impressive.

You look at Elon Musk and Donald Trump. In comparison they scored high points in term of relative male appearance. Yet I didn’t even hear people talking about that. Surely it had helped them in fund raising and recruiting talents as good looking people could score high points in charisma.
 

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You can use your looks for a while but you'll eventually have to deliver substance once that wears off.

A good example would be Jay Shetty who was recently exposed for stealing/plagiarizing basically all of his content.
 

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I think in many ways success makes you attractive.

A good example is siblings where one is successful and the others aren't. Sometimes they look very similar but there is just more of a presence about the person who did really well. They are attractive.

Maybe your mindset shapes your genetics somewhat over a few years, maybe it is diet and focus, maybe it's investing in yourself, whichever - it is a trend I have seen over and over.


So some people might think "they are successful because they are good looking" I think a lot of the time its "because they become successful they are now good looking".
Your facial countenance is built of muscles and nerves that are worked all day long because of those you interact with.
A face that is smiled at looks different after some weeks from a face that grimaces at a Mac screen 10 hours a day. Facial muscles also uniquely mediate emotion and memory.

Case in point: Glenn Stearns. Notice how much better looking he grows as the weeks go by.
 

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Completely up to you. If you want to be the brand, it can be powerful but it of course takes quite a lot of commitment.

Emiri looks like a preteen. Probably a lot to do with her popularity.

What you're willing to do is everything. What sort of life you want to live is of huge consideration too.
 

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Do you try to leverage this in your business?

It's the age-old adage:
To sell anything, you have to sell yourself first.

My current favourite example of this is Emiri Aizawa.

For those of you who don't know her, the TL;DR story is, she started off leaving home broke, never attended college.
Then she started being a club hostess in various parts of Japan and eventually becoming no. 1 wanted.
When she got famous enough, she started her own fashion line, now raking in huge passive income.
Now currently (according to her instagram) she travels pretty much full time & lives unbelievably extravagantly (I know, I know, there's a lot of fake on instagram, but the profits of her business is a fact).

I've checked out her fashion line. It's nothing special (trust, many many Japanese brands have similar products), so obviously, she's banking mostly on her looks (she has that caucasionized doll-like look the Japanese love, and is the model for her own brand), and partly her previous success as a hostess (she's quit that slow-lane 'business' already, obviously).

But she's truly self-made.

Another example is Kylie Jenner, but she already had her family behind her before she sold anything.

What do you think of this?
Would you ever try to 'throw yourself out there' and promote yourself first before you ever try to sell anything?
If you succeed, you, yourself will become The Brand, and absolutely no-one, no wannabe, can ever replicate or separate it from you. You save on advertisement, SEO, (or whatever is 'in') simply because people already know and search for your name.

Of course the downside is, you'd also have to deal with the fame (some may think it is a positive, but I personally don't).
Well?
I immediately think of Belle Delphine, the girl who sold her used bath water and sold out instantly. You also have to keep in mind of the crazy psychos that come with that type of marketing. Just my local girl friends get hundreds of disgusting DM's. Can you imagine that multiplied by a high follower account? Sex sells, sure, but someone else hit the nail on the head with anonymity. That's one commodity that has more value than any passive income stream. That's why its always worth to pay the extra from lottery winnings to stay anonymous.
 
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I immediately think of Belle Delphine, the girl who sold her used bath water and sold out instantly. You also have to keep in mind of the crazy psychos that come with that type of marketing. Just my local girl friends get hundreds of disgusting DM's. Can you imagine that multiplied by a high follower account? Sex sells, sure, but someone else hit the nail on the head with anonymity. That's one commodity that has more value than any passive income stream. That's why its always worth to pay the extra from lottery winnings to stay anonymous.
Whether you agree with Belle's antics or not, I must admit I admire her creativity.

I'm too much of a logic-thinker / doer. I struggle for ideas, honestly. But if I have a good one, I'm pretty confident I'd be able execute well (after some fumbling since I'm still new to all this).
 
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There is this joke:
Once Tom Cruise went for an interview at Google.
In the HR round, someone asked him, "What is your weakness?" to which he replied,
"I am so good looking that I will distract the opposite gender during work."
The interviewer remarked, "Not just the opposite gender!"
 

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I wouldn't know :( I look like a toad
No joking. So I'm considered good looking by most standards, and I shamelessly use it to my advantage. It's called The Halo Effect:

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I like to think I actually am intelligent and funny as well, but still the looks things gives me an advantage. I'm very fortunate in that regard. So you best believe I play it up. Dress well. Look your best. These are all things you should do anyway because impressions are massive.

Good-looking people get lighter jail sentences, they're more likely to be hired. You should be doing all you can to maximize that effect. But at the same time, you also want people to take you seriously for your work.

Perfect example is Brad Pitt. What's the first descriptive adjective that comes to mine when you talk about Brad Pitt? If you're like most people it's "good-looking." That's what people typically associate to him. But Brad Pitt is a brilliant actor. He totally owns every role he takes. But then you get guys like Al Pacino who aren't as good-looking and their hailed for their acting ability. Brad Pitt, who is arguably just as good, isn't hailed like this. Then you have someone like Adele. She's such an amazing singer. But if she were good-looking, the focus would be on that.

I work in the sciences where the brilliant thinkers look like this:


or this:


So I think it's best to maintain a balance. So in some cases I try to play up my looks, in some cases I try to play down my looks. It really depends.
 

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