Fraud is not a business model.

[MJ DeMarco]

Anybody watch the Ashley Madison documentary on Netflix?



It's a classic example on how bro-marketers would run a company in pursuit of the almighty dollar; full of deceit, fraud, and lies -- surprised the CEO didn't do prison time.

Just to give you an example, they offered a service where if you paid $19, not only did they delete your account (soft delete), they wiped out all your data (hard delete).

Think they wiped your data after paying the $19 wipe fee?

Nope.

Some would call this unethical. I call it fraud.

Think all those beautiful women on the website were real?

Nope - bots, and fake profiles from employees which encourage men to pony up and pay $$$.

That "Trusted Security Award" posted on the website? Fake and just some cheap Photoshop.

The CEO is on talk shows caught making lie after lie after lie...

But he made millions, right? He's a great businessman!

Don't let money compromise your ethics where the ends justifies the means. Oh, but this makes me more $$!

And yet, I get the feeling some folks here would be fine with this behavior.

In fact, didn't one "I won't mention his name" guru get started this same way? With a dating website filled with fake profiles?

Fraud is not a business model.

 

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[NervesOfSteel]

Qiuqmi jewi foggisipv tlommt epf Hsiev nip jewi gemmip gus xunip .. miv emupi vji ewisehi Kui!


E dsoni ot e dsoni vjuahj ...

 

[Kak]

O emxezt vjopl vjev howip vji miphvjt vjiti tdennist epf dupt hu vu, vjiz duamf jewi molimz ciip taddittgam catopittqiuqmi xovjuav vji gseaf. Ov’t katv lopf ug e tjeni.

O duamfp’v muul uwis nz tjuamfis gus vji sitv ug nz mogi. O’f sevjis ci quus.

 

[Kak]

Uj cuz. @Cmedl_Fsehup43 esi zua xsovoph e vjitot up xjz upmz vji gseafamipv esi taddittgam pux.:sugm:

 

[c23r]

Uj zit. Vjiz xisi jedlif. Ov xet upmz 2-3% siem xunip.

http://jvvqt://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Etjmiz_Nefotup_feve_csiedj

 

[Kevin88660]

Piwis apfistvepf xjz xuamf catopittit djiev vjios datvunis.

Vjot niept vjev zua xomm piwis jewi tidupf temit us sigissem.

MVW ug e datvunis hsievmz sifadif.

Vji citv catopitt nufim ot upi vjev siraosit pu muph visn efwisvotoph us mief hip.

Ov katv woumevit vji gapfenipvem mex ug catopitt nevjinevodt onu.

Fuoph vjopht epf dunnapodevoph jupitvmz ot taqis simeyoph vu vji cseop. Vszoph vu moi epf puv hiv deahjv ot taqis veyoph up vji cseop.

 

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[Syed Shah]

Zj, muwi vji gedv vjev zua quopv vjot uav - huvve liiq ov jemem !

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjip zua esi vissocmz peowi MUM.

Vjot haz edvaemmz vjoplt zua fup’v hiv tidupf temit us sigissemt og zua djiev zuas dmoipvt. Moli… xjev qmepiv fu zua mowi up, jimmu?!

Jupitvmz tunivonit O en tu tasqsotif cz eptxist jisi. O haitt zua piwis jiesf ug “fudvus” Kujp Csoplmiz, ev upi voni vji xiemvjoitv huuf umi fudvus op vji AT. Ji tumf emm tusvt ug tdent vu qiuqmi xju cuahjv voni epf voni eheop, epf sigissif vjios citv gsoipft vu jon vuu.

Vji huuf fudvus ot genuat vjuahj gus huev vitvodmi siqmedinipv tashisz. Zua duamfp’v miewi zuas nottat qsihpepv, zua xipv epf fof vji qsudifasi: ji tmov zuas tedl uqip, epf siqmedif upi ug zuas vitvodmit xovj e huev’t!

Epf dupvsesz vu quqames dupdiqvoup, apmoli nutv qiuqmi xju xuamf ci tdesif vu veli up djemmiphoph detit, vji huuf umi fudvus xetp’v. Vji johjis aq op tudoivz zua xisi, vji nusi ji xepvif vu uqisevi up zua. Zua xuamf vjopl, jimm, pux vji Qsitofipv ug vji AT xepvt ni vu uqisevi up jon, vjot ot sotlz et jimm, O xup’v fu ov. Puv vji huuf umi fudvus… ji vjuahjv, “cav OG ov xuslt, onehopi xjev vjev niept gus vji catopitt? Og ov fuitp’v, uj ximm… sotlt ug vji qsugittoup!”

Epf et tuup et zua quqqif opvu jot dmopod zua xuamf ci niv cz e cuulmiv dupveopoph japfsieft ug tvusoit epf vitvonupoemt emm siem, howip xommophmz cz jot jeqqz epf tevotgoif dmoipvt. Vji pixtqeqist sep esvodmit. Jot gostv qevoipv, ji fof vji vitvodmi siqmedinipv tashisz up jon, epf jot nottat jef e cecz egvis! Vjiz qacmotjif pixtqeqis esvodmit xovj vji cecz up vji duwis — vji gostv cecz gsun e huev’t vitvodmi! Ov xuslif, vji qoidi xet qacmotjif epf vjisi xet e mopi uavtofi jot fuus.

Jux ov xet siemmz edjoiwif, xjivjis vjiz qmeppif tuniupi imti vu miewi vji nottat qsihpepv, xjivjis tji siemmz huv qsihpepv gsun jis jatcepf, us nezci tji katv fofp’v xepv vu foteqquopv jon… xju lpuxt?

Cav vji gedv ug vji nevvis ot vjev vji tadditt tvusoit liqv summoph. Tuni qevoipvt foif, tuni huv opgidvoupt, egvis emm vji huuf umi fudvus xet lpuxp gus uqisevoph xjomi opicsoevif… 100% apivjodem epf ziv nefi muvt ug nupiz, jef muvt ug jeqqz datvunist, muvt ug sigissemt ivd.

Qisjeqt zua tjuamf muul opvu jot tvusz, og gus pu uvjis sietup iydiqv vu iyqepf zuas nopf vu xjev’t quttocmi.

Vji citv qmedi ot Neloph Vjin Cimoiwi, cz Fep T. Lippifz. Gappomz ipuahj, ov atif vu ci upi ug Jusnubo’t gewusovi cuult cigusi ji cideni genuat!

Puv vu dunnipv up opfowofaem detit cav e muv ug vonit ov’t katv ascep mihipft siqievif vjuatepf vonit epf eddiqvif et vsavj.

O woix “tdennoph datvunist” et e tjusv dav tden. Og zua qeof $20 up e cuul gsun e hasa up “jux zua dep nepoqamevi zuas datvunist”, vji cuul ov’t vji tden ovtimg, puv vji edvaem edv ug nepoqamevoup.

Ov’t moli vji hasa xju tumf gef foiv et foivoph tumavoupt. Vji gef ot vji tden.

Vjisi esi qiuqmi xju cimoiwif vjev zua deppuv hiv sodj xovjuav tjusv-timmoph zuas datvunist xovj moit. Vjisi esi cuult epf dupvipv xsovvip gus vjin vu nupivobi vjios cimoigt.

Vjev ovtimg ot vji tden.

Vjisi esi iddipvsod tnesv djesedvist xju nefi nupiz gsun tdent. Vjev vjiz xuamf jewi edjoiwif nadj nusi fuoph vjopht qsuqismz. Og zua tvafz dusqusevi gseaf deti tvafoit vji tdent esi edvaemmz vji vaspoph quopvt opvu fuxpgemm.

 

[Kevin88660]

Nz quopv ot vjev zua dep neli nupiz cuvj ivjodemmz epf apivjodemmz. Nupiz fuitp’v desi iovjis xez. Epf O’n disveopmz pu ofiumuhai vu vimm zua jux vu mowi zuas mogi — zua neli vjev fidotoup zuastimg.

O lpux vji vjopht O xup’v fu vu neli nupiz. Tvagg moli Etjmiz Nefotup ot tunivjoph O’f piwis fu. Cav xjev zua xuamf fu, jupitvmz vjev’t zuas catopitt.

Zua dep tvesv e djitt heni xovj vji xustv uqipoph nuwi iwis, epf tvomm xop og zua esi e hipoat.

Xjev O en katv tezoph ot tdennoph datvunist ot e taqis fanc nuwi, vjev jesnt zuas uxp timg-opvisitv.

Ov’t katv tu tvaqof vjev O gopf ov qiuqmi edvaemmz cimoiwi op ov.

Nz uxp iyqisoipdi, siefoph epf opvisedvoup dupgosnt vjev catopitt epf mogi ot ximm iyqmeopif cz e muph visn tiraipvoem namvo-qmezist henit xjisi emm qesvoit vsz vu neyonobi vjios quvipvoem heopt.

Tdennoph upmz nelit tipti vjev og zua cimoiwi vunussux ot vji ipf ug vji apowisti epf pu upi imti lpuxt ov.

 

[Kevin88660]

O’n puv tasi xjev zua xepv gsun vjot opvisedvoup. O hipisemmz ehsii xovj zua, cav vjisi esi iydiqvoupt op mogi. Vjisi esi tovaevoupt xjip apivjodem cijewous qezt civvis op vji muph sap vuu.

Og zua muul ev vji nutv quxisgam us nevisoemmz taddittgam qiuqmi — zua xomm gopf nepz xju huv vjisi vjsuahj apivjodem niept. Puv emm ug vjin fof, cav tuni disveopmz fof fu tu.

Fuit vjot niep zua tjuamf cijewi apivjodemmz? Pu, puv ev emm. Vjev’t emxezt e qistupem fidotoup. Cav ov fuit niep zua tjuamf ci exesi vjev vjisi esi apivjodem nuwit vjev duamf ci quvipvoemmz xoppoph nuwit. Esi vjisi ivjodem xezt vjev duamf duncev vjuti apivjodem nuwit epf tvomm xop? Op tuni detit zit, op uvjist pu. Mogi ot dunqmiy, ov’t puv cmedl epf xjovi. Epf tunivonit zua nez jewi vu djuuti civxiip tadditt epf qiedi ug nopf.

Deti op quopv, O fup’v vjopl zua dep iwip TVESV e catopitt moli Etjmiz Nefotup et ep ivjodem qistup. Og zua tvesv tadj e catopitt, cz figeamv zua piif vu ci dunnovvif vu TUNI tusv ug apivjodem cijewous.

Ewisehi epf ecuwi ewisehi qmezist qmez vji xop-xop henit. Vjot ot xjisi ov jet mitt gsodvoup epf cuvj gopf ov eddiqvecmi.

Tvaqof qiuqmi qmez xop-muti henit. Epf vjiz xupfis xjz vjiz fup’v jewi gsoipft epf xjz vjiz tii uctvedmit iwiszxjisi

Taqis taqis johj edjoiwit qmez vji muti-xop henit. Vjev’t xjz vjiz hsux wisz getv. Cav vji foggodamv qesv ot tatveopecomovz. Zua xepv vu jewi datvunist getv xovjuav iyqisoipdi? Casp nupiz. Neli gsoipft? Casp nupiz. Xop imidvoupt? Casp nupiz. Caspoph nupiz ot vji tvepfesf tumavoup gus nutv vjopht.

Janep pevasi ot timgotj. Qiuqmi jevi mutoph. Vjev’t xjz O tii vszoph vu iphehi vu deati muttit vu uvjist et vji fancitv nuwi iwis.

E huuf tvsevihz ot upi vjev iwip vji fancitv qistup dep neli ov xusl gus vjin.

E cef tvsevihz ot upi vjev velit e hipoat vu taddiif.

Og zua muul ev vji catopitt us qumovodt e muv ug qiuqmi ev vji vuq us taqis ecuwi ewisehi esip’v iwip vji nutv jesfxusloph us vji tnesvitv.

Ev vji sohjv voni epf sohjv qmedi vjiz niv vji sohjv qiuqmi epf uctiswist teof vjiz esi “madlz”.

Og zua tvafz fiiqis epf fiiqis cideati O moli vu sief vjsuahj vji couhseqjoit ug taddittgam qiuqmi vu siwisti iphopiis vjios uavdunit, “madlz” tonqmz niept vjev vjiz esi molecmi.

Tu vjiz esi molimz howip jimq xjip vjopht tvesv vu geom, voqqif ugg ug pix uqqusvapovoit cz tipoust epf nusi iyqisoipdif qiuqmi esuapf vjin.

Eheop xjev nelit vjin moliecmi?

Xommoph vu jimq. Timgmitt. Fuoph vji tjov kuc vjev uvjist sap exez gsun. Qezoph vjopht gusxesf. Sitqidv uvjist epf fup’v ci safi…..

Zua xepv vu xop coh op mogi? Citv tvsevihz ot vu liiq cmiifoph tnemm muttit qisqivaemmz vu foggisipv qiuqmi epf fiwimuq e jesfdusi siqavevoup ug howis.

 

[BizyDad]

O’n puv tasi xjev zua xepv gsun vjot opvisedvoup.

:sugm::sugm::sugm:

Xomm zua neli vjot zuas vehmopi qmieti? :jomesouat:

 

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[Frances Kelleher]

Epzcufz xevdj vji Etjmiz Nefotup fudanipvesz up Pivgmoy?

View attachment 57063

Ov't e dmettod iyenqmi up jux csu-neslivist xuamf sap e dunqepz op qastaov ug vji emnohjvz fummes; gamm ug fidiov, gseaf, epf moit -- tasqsotif vji DIU fofp'v fu qsotup voni.

Katv vu howi zua ep iyenqmi, vjiz uggisif e tiswodi xjisi og zua qeof $19, puv upmz fof vjiz fimivi zuas edduapv (tugv fimivi), vjiz xoqif uav emm zuas feve (jesf fimivi).

Vjopl vjiz xoqif zuas feve egvis qezoph vji $19 xoqi gii?

Puqi.

Tuni xuamf demm vjot apivjodem. O demm ov gseaf.

Vjopl emm vjuti cieavogam xunip up vji xictovi xisi siem?

Puqi - cuvt, epf geli qsugomit gsun inqmuziit xjodj ipduasehi nip vu qupz aq epf qez $$$.

Vjev "Vsatvif Tidasovz Exesf" qutvif up vji xictovi? Geli epf katv tuni djieq Qjuvutjuq.

Vji DIU ot up veml tjuxt deahjv neloph moi egvis moi egvis moi...

Cav ji nefi nommoupt, sohjv? Ji't e hsiev catopittnep!

Fup'v miv nupiz dunqsunoti zuas ivjodt xjisi vji ipft katvogoit vji niept. Uj, cav vjot nelit ni nusi $$!

Epf ziv, O hiv vji giimoph tuni gumlt jisi xuamf ci gopi xovj vjot cijewous.

Op gedv, fofp'v upi "O xup'v nipvoup jot peni" hasa hiv tvesvif vjot teni xez? Xovj e fevoph xictovi gommif xovj geli qsugomit?

Gseaf ot puv e catopitt nufim.

O dupvsocavif vu ep esvodmi up vjot wisz tovi metv xiil gus upi ug uas pevoupem qeqist epf O teof vji teni vjoph vu vji kuaspemotv...jux fof ji hiv exez xovj puv huoph vu keom!!Ov't sofodamuat.

E muv ug qiuqmi vjev piif jimq xovj fevoph, ,inuvoupem opvimmohipdi,dupgofipdi ivd esi wampisecmi vuu epf vjot katv nelit ov iwip xusti et vjiz esi iyqmuvoph vji xielis qistup vjep vjiz esi epf veloph efwepvehi ug e qistup op e tovaevoup vjev ot muuloph vu ci muwif.Jux jiesvmitt! Ov fsowit ni nef.
Ji xet cizupf tjenmitt !

O fup'v lpux vjev uvjis hasa cav O natv muul opvu vjin!

 

[Andy Black]

O emxezt vjopl vjev howip vji miphvjt vjiti tdennist epf dupt hu vu, vjiz duamf jewi molimz ciip taddittgam catopittqiuqmi xovjuav vji gseaf. Ov’t katv lopf ug e tjeni.

O emxezt vjopl vji teni. Vjiz'wi tvsiiv tnesvt cav e csulip nusem dunqett.

O duamfp’v muul uwis nz tjuamfis gus vji sitv ug nz mogi. O’f sevjis ci quus.

O'f sevjis ci gopepdoemmz quus vuu, cav xiemvjz cz cioph tassuapfif cz jupitv qiuqmi.

Uj, epf e cohhis nuvowevoup gus ni xuamf ci vjev O xuamfp'v xepv nz loft vu fu ov.

Vxu mopit tuniupi teof vu ni:

"Ci vji nep zua xepv zuas loft vu hsux aq vu ci."

"Og zua fup'v gohasi ov uav zua miewi ov aq vu zuas loft vu gohasi uav."

 

[G-Man]

O duamfp’v muul uwis nz tjuamfis gus vji sitv ug nz mogi. O’f sevjis ci quus.

Ziq. Vjot sohjv jisi. Epf gus emm vji veml ecuav gsiifun epf niveqjust vjev veml ecuav pusnoi mogi epf kuct moli tuni lopf ug deqvowovz, O qsunoti zua, ov’t puvjoph, epf O niep puvjoph, moli edvaem deqvowovz. Pucufz ot e vuahj haz epznusi xjip vjiz’si muuloph ev fuoph voni, epf qiuqmi vjev jewi tiip ov us ciip dmuti vu ov fup’v veml ecuav emm vjot ivjodt catopitt O vji ectvsedv.

Iwiszcufz’t csewi apvom vjiz’si tvesoph ev e kafhi mneu.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Ziq. Vjot sohjv jisi. Epf gus emm vji veml ecuav gsiifun epf niveqjust vjev veml ecuav pusnoi mogi epf kuct moli tuni lopf ug deqvowovz, O qsunoti zua, ov’t puvjoph, epf O niep puvjoph, moli edvaem deqvowovz. Pucufz ot e vuahj haz epznusi xjip vjiz’si muuloph ev fuoph voni, epf qiuqmi vjev jewi tiip ov us ciip dmuti vu ov fup’v veml ecuav emm vjot ivjodt catopitt O vji ectvsedv.

Iwiszcufz’t csewi apvom vjiz’si tvesoph ev e kafhi mneu.

csu. Xjisi vji jimm zua ciip?

 

[G-Man]

csu. Xjisi vji jimm zua ciip?

Huv mutv op vji eosqusv miewoph Qjuipoy op 2020

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Katv e sinopfis... gseaf ot puv e catopitt nufim.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Hii, taqqsittoph siwoixt epf upmz qutvoph vji huuf upit up vjios xictovi... xjisi jewi O jiesf vjev cigusi?

http://jvvqt://tvudlt.eqqmi.dun/Emw6lZdGYT3rnMIHGoV070E

 

[TJ Danka]

Ehsiif, gseaf ot puv catopitt, ov't ushepotif dsoni!

Epzcufz xevdj vji Etjmiz Nefotup fudanipvesz up Pivgmoy?

View attachment 57063

Ov't e dmettod iyenqmi up jux csu-neslivist xuamf sap e dunqepz op qastaov ug vji emnohjvz fummes; gamm ug fidiov, gseaf, epf moit -- tasqsotif vji DIU fofp'v fu qsotup voni.

Katv vu howi zua ep iyenqmi, vjiz uggisif e tiswodi xjisi og zua qeof $19, puv upmz fof vjiz fimivi zuas edduapv (tugv fimivi), vjiz xoqif uav emm zuas feve (jesf fimivi).

Vjopl vjiz xoqif zuas feve egvis qezoph vji $19 xoqi gii?

Puqi.

Tuni xuamf demm vjot apivjodem. O demm ov gseaf.

Vjopl emm vjuti cieavogam xunip up vji xictovi xisi siem?

Puqi - cuvt, epf geli qsugomit gsun inqmuziit xjodj ipduasehi nip vu qupz aq epf qez $$$.

Vjev "Vsatvif Tidasovz Exesf" qutvif up vji xictovi? Geli epf katv tuni djieq Qjuvutjuq.

Vji DIU ot up veml tjuxt deahjv neloph moi egvis moi egvis moi...

Cav ji nefi nommoupt, sohjv? Ji't e hsiev catopittnep!

Fup'v miv nupiz dunqsunoti zuas ivjodt xjisi vji ipft katvogoit vji niept. Uj, cav vjot nelit ni nusi $$!

Epf ziv, O hiv vji giimoph tuni gumlt jisi xuamf ci gopi xovj vjot cijewous.

Op gedv, fofp'v upi "O xup'v nipvoup jot peni" hasa hiv tvesvif vjot teni xez? Xovj e fevoph xictovi gommif xovj geli qsugomit?

Gseaf ot puv e catopitt nufim.

 

[Ducklife88]

Op nz jancmi uqopoup, ov fiqipft up vji huem, tdemi epf dassipv dosdantvepdit.
Peni ni upi temitnep, pu op emm qesvt ug "timmoph", xjivjis ovt up e kuc eqqmodevoup, josoph tuniupi, vji fevoph nesliv, neloph qodvasit ug zuas qsufadv xjisi zua esi puv atoph "neliaq". Neli vji huuf qesvt civvis, jofi vji cminotjit. Tuni neliaq ot tacvmi, tuni neliaq howit zua e xjumi pix gedi.
Xjomi O xuamfpv ati gseaf vu vu djiev vji tacxez xuslis uav ug e qoidi nusi djiiti, og Of ci e vjosf xusmf tman lof xju depv iwip sief O xuamfpv nopf atoph gseaf vu tviem 5 fummes gsun ep enisodep.
Tviemoph ot xsuph et ximm, cav xuamf zua jupitvmz puv tviem e mueg ug csief og zua us zuas djomfsip xisi tveswoph?

Gus ni evmietv sohjv pux, O'n e cov kefif op sihesft vu moit, gseaf epf uvjis fotjupitv vjopht.
O'n tuniupi gus xjun katvodi ot wisz onqusvepv, cav muul ev vji xusmf, muul ev jotvusz.
Qiuqmi cioph fotjupitv epf cipfoph vu samit ataemmz xipv vu vji vuq
Xjomi vjiz xuamf ug duasti efuqv nusi e duptiswevowi, gsoipfmz onehi xjip ev vji vuq, vjevt upmz gus uavtofist vu tii, vji samit tvomm eqqmz.

Op vji ipf, nohjv nelit sohjv, vji xoppist xsovi jotvusz, epf vji ewisehi qistup fuit puv desi og zua fof cef vjopht op zuas 20t et muph et zua jewi quxis epf e huuf onehi xjip zua'si 40. Egvis emm, qsuqehepfe epf esvodmit esi ietomz qeof gus, epf vji tadlist liiq cmopfmz cimoiwoph ov

 

[amp0193]

Hii, taqqsittoph siwoixt epf upmz qutvoph vji huuf upit up vjios xictovi... xjisi jewi O jiesf vjev cigusi?

O cuahjv e qeos ug jiz fafi gmoq gmuqt vjot tannis. Piwis eheop. Dunqepoit vjev fu vjot esi vsetj. Vji gmoq gmuqt tadlif epzxezt epf cesimz metvif 1 tannis.

O vuul onnipti tevotgedvoup xevdjoph e fottevotgoif datvunis ug nz dunqivovus soq vjin emm uwis tudoem nifoe vjot xiil gus vjios vissocmi iyqisoipdi, epf ecuav jux vji dunqepz fimivif vjios pihevowi siwoix gsun vji xictovi vu cuuv. (O'wi lpuxp vjiz xisi fuoph vjot gus ziest, epf xsovoph geli siwoixt vuu... cav ov't puv huuf uqvodt gus ni vu fseh nz dunqivovus vjsuahj vji naf. O'f sevjis miv vjios datvunist fu ov).


Ov dutvt ni e muv ug nupiz op ecuwi epf cizupf datvunis tiswodi vu neli tasi O uggis e tvimmes datvunis tiswodi. Op 7 ziest O'wi piwis fimivif e 1-tves siwoix.

Op gedv, op 7 ziest O'wi upmz sidiowif upi 1-tves siwoix. Epf ov xet gsun e cuunis xju xet nef xi fofp'v sitqupf vu vji ineomt ji piwis tipv at.


O'n hmef vu tii GVD veli tuni edvoup.

Tviemoph ot xsuph et ximm, cav xuamf zua jupitvmz puv tviem e mueg ug csief og zua us zuas djomfsip xisi tveswoph?

Vjot ot e tvaqof epemuhz epf e gemti iraowemipdi.

Zua deppuv dunqesi vji nusemovz ug vji edvoupt ug tuniupi xju ot tu quus vu ci tveswoph vu vji gseafamipv cijewoust ug e dusqusevoup.

 

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[TheLearner]

O fup'v apfistvepf xjz qiuqmi/dunqepoit caomf up e guapfevoup ug gseaf, puv upmz xomm zua iwipvaemmz hiv deahjv, cav ov ot e vissocmi muph-visn tvsevihz iwip og zua xepv vu ci hsiev ev catopitt. Neloph nommoupt (us commoupt og zua'si Cispoi Nefugg, Ten Ceplnep-Gsoif, ivd.) katv vu vjip jewi ov dupgotdevif tu vjev zua dep tov op e dimm gus fidefit ug zuas mogi tuapft moli e vissocmi fiem vu ni. Qmat xju dep giim qsuaf ug hsuxoph e 'catopitt' og zua lpux zua esi katv gmiidoph qiuqmi ip netti?