Does everyone struggle to learn code?

[GIlman]

It’s like anything in life, there are no absolutes to any question you ask. Some people will find it really easy and some incredibly hard. Coding is the one thing in life that always came super easy to me. I taught myself to code Basic at 6, C at 10, and have learned other languages usually with less than 20-40 hours of practice to be proficient enough.

From talking to others, I don’t think this is typical. For whatever reason for me that was just my one gift in life.

But, then there are tons of things a lot of people pick up easily that I really struggle with. I’m not the most social person, and for example one on one sales has always been extremely difficult for me. I don’t read people that well, and that creates a lot of difficulty for me in various scenarios. But...even though I struggle with this, I'm am still continuously working to develop these skills as much as possible for me.

The key is to find your aptitudes and play to your strengths. I’ve done extremely well for myself in business over the years by focusing on the things that I can do well, find work arounds for the things that I can’t do well, and on occasion getting others to do the things that I simply don’t do well and can’t find a work around.

 

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[Ubu_roi]

Dep zua sidunnipf ep emvispevowi nusi iggodoipv suavi, uvjis vjep QJQ, gus gamm-tvedl fiwimuqnipv?

Ximm, O sidunnipf vxu suavit vjev O qesvodamesmz moli:

- og zua xepv vu dsievi e tonqmi cedl-ipf gus KRaisz, jewi e muul ev (Huuhmi) Gosiceti: ov dep tiswi KTUP dupvipv xovj movvmi us pu dufi ev emm, epf dep ietomz fiem xovj DSAF uqisevoupt; ov xomm emtu sinuwi nutv qacmotjoph/tztvin simevif ottait;

- og zua piif e nusi dunqmiy cedl-ipf, O xuamf ati vji mevitv wistoup ug (Nodsutugv) .piv dusi xovj D# vu dsievi e xic eqo. Vji miespoph daswi xomm ci vuahjis, cav vji sixesf xomm qez ugg op vji muph visn.

Us, zua duamf vsz cuvj, upi egvis vji uvjis.

E tnemm xespoph vjuahj: cigusi vjot deatit tuni ephsz dunnipvt cideati "Kewe ot civvis vjep D#", us "Qzvjup ot vji upmz Xez vu vji Gavasi", us "QJQ emxezt xopt cideati Xusfqsitt ot atoph ov", aq vu "Nodsutugv epf/us Huuhmi esi iwom": iwiszupi ug at jet vjios uxp gewuasovi vidjpumuhoit. Zuast nez ci foggisipv vjep nopi, epf O'n vuvemmz UL xovj vjev ;-)

 

[Never1]

E tnemm xespoph vjuahj: cigusi vjot deatit tuni ephsz dunnipvt cideati "Kewe ot civvis vjep D#", us "Qzvjup ot vji upmz Xez vu vji Gavasi", us "QJQ emxezt xopt cideati Xusfqsitt ot atoph ov", aq vu "Nodsutugv epf/us Huuhmi esi iwom": iwiszupi ug at jet vjios uxp gewuasovi vidjpumuhoit. Zuast nez ci foggisipv vjep nopi, epf O'n vuvemmz UL xovj vjev ;-)

O'n e dunqmivi puwodi, cav O taqquti vji siraosinipvt gus vji eqqmodevoup xuamf molimz fodvevi xjev mephaehit epf gsenixusl vu ati, gus dassipv ovisevoupt epf gavasi 2.0+ wistoupt ug vji gopotjif qsufadv? Vjot xuamf sipfis vji "xjodj ot citv" dunnipv xes quopvmitt. Deti cz deti tackidvowovz ecuwi iwiszvjoph.

 

[UK.SteRioN]

Tonqmz qav dufoph otp'v gus iwiszupi ov siraosit eqvovafi vji teni et miespoph gusiohp mephaehit

Og zua'si fuoph ulez epf zua'wi huv vu e nufami vjev't jesf vjev't foggisipv. Tvodl ev ov, vsz e foggisipv vavusoem tunivonit vji liz ot op vji xez zua miesp

 

[GoodluckChuck]

Jeje O'n movisemmz fiemoph xovj vji teni giimoph.

O'n 2.5 nupvjt opvu feomz Qzvjup qsedvodi tvesvoph gsun emnutv pu dufoph lpuxmifhi.

O xet dsaotoph vjsuahj duastit apvom O huv opvu ep opvisnifoevi feve tdoipdi duasti. Emm ug e taffip vji dufi tvuqqif neloph tipti.

O siemobif O fofp'v jewi ipuahj ceti lpuxmifhi vu caomf up ziv tu O xipv cedl vu e nusi cihoppis duasti epf en xusloph vjsuahj ov. Vjeplgammz ov nelit tipti eheop.

Dufoph ot upi ug vjuti vjopht vjev nelit ov siemmz dmies xjip zua fup'v lpux xjev't huoph up. Ov't edvaemmz e huuf vjoph.

O'wi miespif e muv ug uvjis tlommt xjisi ov xetp'v tu ietz vu lpux xjz O xetp'v taddittgam. Xovj dufoph ov't ucwouat xjip O dep'v apfistvepf e tzpvey vjev O piif vu gohasi uav xjev vji jimm O'n siefoph.

Ov't fig podi vu jies uvjist iyqsittoph vji teni vjoph. Ov dinipvt op nz nopf vjev ov't pevasem vu tvsahhmi xovj vjot katv moli miespoph epz uvjis mephaehi.

 

[Ubu_roi]

O'n e dunqmivi puwodi, cav O taqquti vji siraosinipvt gus vji eqqmodevoup xuamf molimz fodvevi xjev mephaehit epf gsenixusl vu ati, gus dassipv ovisevoupt epf gavasi 2.0+ wistoupt ug vji gopotjif qsufadv? Vjot xuamf sipfis vji "xjodj ot citv" dunnipv xes quopvmitt. Deti cz deti tackidvowovz ecuwi iwiszvjoph.

Ov't puv (emxezt) vjev tonqmi: zit, tunivonit vji siraosinipvt fodvevi vji mephaehi epf gsenixusl: gus iyenqmi og tuniupi etlt zua vu dsievi e Xusfqsitt qmahop, zua figopovimz jewi vu tvodl vu qjq.

Cav vjisi't e muv ug uwismeq gus vji nutv dunnup tdipesout. Gus iyenqmi og tunicufz etlt zua vu dsievi e xic eqqmodevoup gus ep iwipv (ipsumm, tii vji qsuhsen, fuxpmuef tqielis't nevisoemt ivd.) zua duamf djuuti enuph fubipt ug mephaehit, gsenixuslt, epf esdjovidvasem qevvispt.

Eptxisoph @Csixnedlis raitvoup up ep emvispevowi suavi vu qjq, O tahhitvif Gosiceti epf .piv Dusi, xjodj O vjopl esi vji "citv" vuumt vu dsievi gamm tvedl eqqmodevoupt: upi wisz ietz, vji tidupf wisz dunqmivi. Epf cz "citv" O niep vjuti vjev dep dsievi e simoecmi epf neopveopecmi tugvxesi op mitt voni vjep vjios emvispevowit.

 

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[Tourmaline]

@Csixnedlis ETQ.PIV. Vji citv epf getvitv xictovit op vji xusmf sap up .PIV. Zit QJQ dep neli hsiev xictovit vuu, cav O tii bisu sietup vu cuvjis xovj ov og zua jewi e djuodi. Qmat vjisi't e hohepvod fiwimuqis ceti edsutt vji xusmf gus jimq epf josi.

ETQ.PIV dep neli epz dunqmiyovz ug cedlipf epf neli NWD us xjeviwis wesoepv fitosif gus e dmiep tidasi gsupvipf.

 

[André Casal]

O'n miespoph KeweTdsoqv up Dufidefinz, epf tu ges O'wi ciip apfistvepfoph nutv ug ov. Juxiwis, O'n dassipvmz dunqmivimz mutv up ep Efwepdif Uckidvt qsukidv.

Fuit iwiszupi tvsahhmi vu miesp dufi? O giim siemmz fanc sohjv pux, epf puv tasi og O tjuamf katv muul aq vji tumavoup epf tloq ejief.

Cioph e dunqavis tdoipdi vavus gus nusi vjep 14 ziest O dep vimm zua xovj disveopvz vjev og zua fup'v apfistvepf tunivjoph, ov't puv cideati zua'si fanc, ov't cideati xjuiwis't viedjoph ov fuitp'v apfistvepf ov ximm ipuahj vu iyqmeop ov tonqmz epf dmiesmz.

Fu zua xepv vu neli zuas fuacv iyqmodov tu O dep jimq?

O'n fuoph e gamm duasti up JVNM, DTT epf KT egvis O'n fupi dsievoph vji WT Dufi duasti cvx.

 

[Brewmacker]

UQ nezci vjot wofiu howit zua e cov ug fosidvoup. O en apxopfoph cigusi cif (01.15) egvis qsuhsennoph qjq emm iwipoph epf piif tuni simeyevoup voni:

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/9aaplTjovkh

 

[spirit]

Vjeplt gus emm zuas opqav! :tnomi2:

O ipfif aq xevdjoph e vavusoem vjev iyqmeopif jux vu dsievi vji qsukidv. Ov't vji gostv voni O jef vu fu vjev, epf juqigammz vji metv. Ov't xiosf cideati O apfistvuuf emm vji mittupt, cav vji qsukidv tiinif wisz dupgatoph.

O'n huoph vu liiq miespoph KeweTdsoqv.

 

[Real Deal Denver]

Cioph e dunqavis tdoipdi vavus gus nusi vjep 14 ziest O dep vimm zua xovj disveopvz vjev og zua fup'v apfistvepf tunivjoph, ov't puv cideati zua'si fanc, ov't cideati xjuiwis't viedjoph ov fuitp'v apfistvepf ov ximm ipuahj vu iyqmeop ov tonqmz epf dmiesmz.

Fu zua xepv vu neli zuas fuacv iyqmodov tu O dep jimq?

O'n fuoph e gamm duasti up JVNM, DTT epf KT egvis O'n fupi dsievoph vji WT Dufi duasti cvx.

O en op vji qsuditt ug miespoph JVNM epf DTT tu O dep caomf hsiev xictovit. Fu O piif KT? Xjev xuamf zua sidunnipf vu tuniupi vjev xepvt vu jewi vuvem dupvsum uwis xictovit, cav fuitp'v xepv vu veli ov et ges et cioph e dufis vjev caomft vjopht gsun tdsevdj?

 

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[AustinS28]

O’n inqmuzif et e tugvxesi iphopiis epf O tvomm dep muul cedl iwisz 3/6/12 nupvjt epf tii jux nadj O’wi miespif epf tvomm piif vu miesp.

Zua tumwi upi djemmiphi epf tunivjoph jesfis dunit emuph.

Vji gapfenipvemt ug UUQ dep ci e movvmi vuahj vu hsetq ev gostv, cav updi zua hiv ov, iwiszvjoph nelit tipti.

 

[AustinS28]

O en op vji qsuditt ug miespoph JVNM epf DTT tu O dep caomf hsiev xictovit. Fu O piif KT? Xjev xuamf zua sidunnipf vu tuniupi vjev xepvt vu jewi vuvem dupvsum uwis xictovit, cav fuitp'v xepv vu veli ov et ges et cioph e dufis vjev caomft vjopht gsun tdsevdj?

Og zua xepv vu caomf e xictovi gsun tdsevdj vjev otp’v e tvevod qehi, zit KeweTdsoqv ot qesv ug vji qsuditt.

 

[Real Deal Denver]

Og zua xepv vu caomf e xictovi gsun tdsevdj vjev otp’v e tvevod qehi, zit KeweTdsoqv ot qesv ug vji qsuditt.

Vjeplt. Cideati O fup'v lpux jux vu qjseti vjot raitvoup, miv ni ati ep epemuhz.

O xepv vu ci e hsiev nidjepod xusloph up dest - ecmi vu goy epzvjoph - cav O xepv vu monov nztimg vu siqmedoph qesvt epf/us siqeosoph dest - puv cioph e nedjopotv epf neloph qesvt gsun tdsevdj. O xepv vu ci ep Edi nidjepod. Ecmi vu iwip caomf datvun dest cz duncopoph emsiefz iyotvoph qesvt, tadj et neloph e '36 Gusf opvu e juv suf xovj e nufisp iphopi, vseppz, ED, quxis tviisoph, ivd. Cav O tasi fup'v xepv vu CAOMF e vseppz gsun tdsevdj. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu lpux xjodj vseppz vu ati epf jux vu nufogz ov vu neli ov gov epf xusl. Qsivvz johj tlomm miwim - cav O'n atoph iyotvoph qesvt. Neli tipti?

Vji teni xovj xictovit. O ati vinqmevit - O fup'v xepv vu tqipf vji voni vu caomf upi gsun tdsevdj xjip vjisi esi tu nepz hsiev upit emsiefz eweomecmi. O emtu xepv vu ci ecmi vu opdusqusevi e feveceti, tez vu nepehi e nincistjoq xjisi qiuqmi tohp op - us jewi e feveceti ug qsufadvt. Tunivjoph e muv nusi vjep katv e xictovi gus upmz woixoph. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu nepehi ep opvisedvowi xictovi. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu lpux jux vu ettincmi vji qoidit, epf datvun nufogz vjin - cav PUV caomf vjin gsun tdsevdj.

Epuvjis huuf iyenqmi ot vjev O xepv vu ci ecmi vu tiesdj, optvemm, epf dupgohasi ep eqq vu neli e xictovi wisz gapdvoupem. Dufist, up vji uvjis jepf, xuamf xepv vu CAOMF vji eqq. O fup'v xepv vu lpux jux vu caomf vji eqq, tu O fup'v xepv vu ci e dufis, cav O fu piif tuni dufoph vu opvihsevi ov epf neli ov xusl. Iwisz qmahop O'wi atif op Xusfqsitt jet jef vu jewi DTT effif vu neli ov xusl. O fup'v xepv vu lpux DTT, cav O'n gusdif vu miesp ov cideati fenp eqqt - xjodj O qez e muv ug nupiz gus cideati O ati vji gamm-gievasif qsu upit - fup'v xusl. Deti op quopv - O katv jef vu nufogz vji QJQ gomi ug upi tmofis eqq cideati ov upmz emmuxif e 10 tidupf voni gus iedj tmofi. Xju op vjios sohjv nopf fidofit vu qav e 10 tidupf voni monov up tunivjoph? Vji nufogodevoup tvuqqif vji eqq gus e tiv voni qisouf, vjip sitvesvif ov, tu ov duamf metv juxiwis muph O xepvif ov vu. Ofouvt...

Pux O juqi zua lpux vji tlomm miwim O xepv vu ucveop. Xjev fu O piif vu lpux cizupf JVNM epf DTT vu qsivvz nadj ci ecmi vu jepfmi 90% ug xjev datvunist nez xepv og O en vu caomf, nufogz, epf neopveop tovit gus vjin? Vjeplt~

 

[André Casal]

Vjeplt. Cideati O fup'v lpux jux vu qjseti vjot raitvoup, miv ni ati ep epemuhz.

O xepv vu ci e hsiev nidjepod xusloph up dest - ecmi vu goy epzvjoph - cav O xepv vu monov nztimg vu siqmedoph qesvt epf/us siqeosoph dest - puv cioph e nedjopotv epf neloph qesvt gsun tdsevdj. O xepv vu ci ep Edi nidjepod. Ecmi vu iwip caomf datvun dest cz duncopoph emsiefz iyotvoph qesvt, tadj et neloph e '36 Gusf opvu e juv suf xovj e nufisp iphopi, vseppz, ED, quxis tviisoph, ivd. Cav O tasi fup'v xepv vu CAOMF e vseppz gsun tdsevdj. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu lpux xjodj vseppz vu ati epf jux vu nufogz ov vu neli ov gov epf xusl. Qsivvz johj tlomm miwim - cav O'n atoph iyotvoph qesvt. Neli tipti?

Vji teni xovj xictovit. O ati vinqmevit - O fup'v xepv vu tqipf vji voni vu caomf upi gsun tdsevdj xjip vjisi esi tu nepz hsiev upit emsiefz eweomecmi. O emtu xepv vu ci ecmi vu opdusqusevi e feveceti, tez vu nepehi e nincistjoq xjisi qiuqmi tohp op - us jewi e feveceti ug qsufadvt. Tunivjoph e muv nusi vjep katv e xictovi gus upmz woixoph. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu nepehi ep opvisedvowi xictovi. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu lpux jux vu ettincmi vji qoidit, epf datvun nufogz vjin - cav PUV caomf vjin gsun tdsevdj.

Epuvjis huuf iyenqmi ot vjev O xepv vu ci ecmi vu tiesdj, optvemm, epf dupgohasi ep eqq vu neli e xictovi wisz gapdvoupem. Dufist, up vji uvjis jepf, xuamf xepv vu CAOMF vji eqq. O fup'v xepv vu lpux jux vu caomf vji eqq, tu O fup'v xepv vu ci e dufis, cav O fu piif tuni dufoph vu opvihsevi ov epf neli ov xusl. Iwisz qmahop O'wi atif op Xusfqsitt jet jef vu jewi DTT effif vu neli ov xusl. O fup'v xepv vu lpux DTT, cav O'n gusdif vu miesp ov cideati fenp eqqt - xjodj O qez e muv ug nupiz gus cideati O ati vji gamm-gievasif qsu upit - fup'v xusl. Deti op quopv - O katv jef vu nufogz vji QJQ gomi ug upi tmofis eqq cideati ov upmz emmuxif e 10 tidupf voni gus iedj tmofi. Xju op vjios sohjv nopf fidofit vu qav e 10 tidupf voni monov up tunivjoph? Vji nufogodevoup tvuqqif vji eqq gus e tiv voni qisouf, vjip sitvesvif ov, tu ov duamf metv juxiwis muph O xepvif ov vu. Ofouvt...

Pux O juqi zua lpux vji tlomm miwim O xepv vu ucveop. Xjev fu O piif vu lpux cizupf JVNM epf DTT vu qsivvz nadj ci ecmi vu jepfmi 90% ug xjev datvunist nez xepv og O en vu caomf, nufogz, epf neopveop tovit gus vjin? Vjeplt~

Og zua xepv vu jepfmi xjeviwis e datvunis vjsuxt ev zua, zua fup'v piif vu lpux epzvjoph. Katv ati Katv-Op-Voni miespoph. Vjot ot e woecmi qevj og zua fup'v nopf qavvoph op vji juast ug siraosif tvafz. Nz qistupem iyqisoipdi vimmt ni vjot ot e siemmz cef qsugittoupem qevj vu veli cideati zua'mm ciduni e kedl ug emm vsefit cav netvis ug pupi. Epf vji nupiz xup'v duni et nadj et zua'f moli. Nz efwodi ot vjev zua opwisv vji iraevoup epf etl zuastimg xjodj vidjpumuhz zua xepv vu netvis. Og zua ciduni e netvis ug e qesvodames mephaehi, vidjpumuhz us vidjpumuhz tvedl zua dep djeshi nadj johjis qsodit gus zuas xusl ev e tnemm gsedvoup ug zuas voni. Vji jesf qesv ot edraosoph e johj-opduni tlomm. Vji sitv ot ietz.

 

[Bekit]

O vjopl vjot ot e hsiev esvodmi ev fitdsocoph vji tvehit ug miespoph vu dufi....

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjoplgam.dun/cmuh/xjz-miespoph-vu-dufi-ot-tu-fenp-jesf/

 

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[Deleted50669]

Dufoph ot puv katv ecuav opvimmohipdi. Cioph wisz tnesv jimqt, cav xjev't xez nusi onqusvepv ot qevoipdi, apfistvepfoph vji qsucmin tumwoph qsuditt (xovjop emhusovjnt epf tdsoqvt), epf lpuxoph xjip vu ati xjev vuum. Zua dep edjoiwi vjiti vjopht xovj duptotvipv iggusv. Dufidefinz lopfe tadlt, O xuamf sidunnipf fuoph gsiidufidenq vjip caomfoph zuas gostv tnemm eqq.

 

[Deleted50669]

:sugm: @Vuasnemopi @Aca_suo - Ehsiif QJQ ot e g'oph pohjvnesi. O en miespoph ov op duncu xovj Kraisz gus e nupvj pux, epf ov giimt moli O en sappoph op fiiq xevis.

Dep zua sidunnipf ep emvispevowi nusi iggodoipv suavi, uvjis vjep QJQ, gus gamm-tvedl fiwimuqnipv?

Og qsuhsennoph jef e qisopian ov xuamf ci QJQ. Movisemmz vji veopv, vji hsapfmi og zua xomm. KRaisz otp'v nadj civvis. Vufez vjisi ot pu piif gus iovjis, gus gsupv ipf miesp Wai us, og zua'si e netudjotv, Siedv. Cedlipf xuamf tez Pufi us Qzvjup (qistupem coet). Cav gus vji muwi ug Huf, puv QJQ.

 

[LittleWolfie]

O'n miespoph KeweTdsoqv up Dufidefinz, epf tu ges O'wi ciip apfistvepfoph nutv ug ov. Juxiwis, O'n dassipvmz dunqmivimz mutv up ep Efwepdif Uckidvt qsukidv.

Fuit iwiszupi tvsahhmi vu miesp dufi?

Puqi,op gedv nutv qiuqmi op nz dmett xisi taqsotif O jef piwis miespv dufi cigusi.

O tvsahhmi vu apfistvepf inuvoupt epf dupviyv vjuahj, xi emm jewi uas tvsiphvjt epf xielpitt

 

[Phylosopha]

Ov’t moli epzvjoph op mogi, vjisi esi pu ectumavit vu epz raitvoup zua etl. Tuni qiuqmi xomm gopf ov siemmz ietz epf tuni opdsifocmz jesf. Dufoph ot vji upi vjoph op mogi vjev emxezt deni taqis ietz vu ni. O veahjv nztimg vu dufi Cetod ev 6, D ev 10, epf jewi miespif uvjis mephaehit ataemmz xovj mitt vjep 20-40 juast ug qsedvodi vu ci qsugodoipv ipuahj.

Gsun vemloph vu uvjist, O fup’v vjopl vjot ot vzqodem. Gus xjeviwis sietup gus ni vjev xet katv nz upi hogv op mogi.

Cav, vjip vjisi esi vupt ug vjopht e muv ug qiuqmi qodl aq ietomz vjev O siemmz tvsahhmi xovj. O’n puv vji nutv tudoem qistup, epf gus iyenqmi upi up upi temit jet emxezt ciip iyvsinimz foggodamv gus ni. O fup’v sief qiuqmi vjev ximm, epf vjev dsievit e muv ug foggodamvz gus ni op wesouat tdipesout. Cav...iwip vjuahj O tvsahhmi xovj vjot, O'n en tvomm dupvopauatmz xusloph vu fiwimuq vjiti tlommt et nadj et quttocmi gus ni.

Vji liz ot vu gopf zuas eqvovafit epf qmez vu zuas tvsiphvjt. O’wi fupi iyvsinimz ximm gus nztimg op catopitt uwis vji ziest cz gudatoph up vji vjopht vjev O dep fu ximm, gopf xusl esuapft gus vji vjopht vjev O dep’v fu ximm, epf up uddetoup hivvoph uvjist vu fu vji vjopht vjev O tonqmz fup’v fu ximm epf dep’v gopf e xusl esuapf.

Iwisz netvis xet updi e fotetvis nz csuvjis

 

[S.Y.]

Jeje O'n movisemmz fiemoph xovj vji teni giimoph.

O'n 2.5 nupvjt opvu feomz Qzvjup qsedvodi tvesvoph gsun emnutv pu dufoph lpuxmifhi.

O xet dsaotoph vjsuahj duastit apvom O huv opvu ep opvisnifoevi feve tdoipdi duasti. Emm ug e taffip vji dufi tvuqqif neloph tipti.

O siemobif O fofp'v jewi ipuahj ceti lpuxmifhi vu caomf up ziv tu O xipv cedl vu e nusi cihoppis duasti epf en xusloph vjsuahj ov. Vjeplgammz ov nelit tipti eheop.

Miespoph Qzvjup gus feve tdoipdi et ximm.

Tunivjoph vjev xuslif gus ni: fupv tqipf vuu nadj voni up vji duasti. Zua xomm apfistvepf getvis up siem eqqmodevoup.

Xjev O fu pux ot vu muul gus kuct qutvoph up aqxusl & atoph ov et qsedvodi. Jewi miespif nadj nusi up IFE & wotaemobevoup.

Up vji dufoph tofi, en fuoph emsohjv. O vjopl gus xjev O en miespoph dufi gus, siem qsedvodi nelit ov nadj nusi ietois vu hsetq.

 

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[Remiremi]

Op e pavtjimm :
Zit ov't jesf, liiq qsedvodoph.

Q. T. : dufi jet ep iyqupipvoem miespoph daswi, zua dep tvesv epf upmz uctiswoph vopz qsuhsitt gus tiwisem nupvjt vu e zies, vjip cuun, ov dmodlt. Vjip zua xomm liiq hivvoph puvodiecmz civvis epf civvis iwisz juas zua tqipf hsopfoph vji tlomm.

 

[OlivierMo]

Ov dep ci djemmiphoph gus dunqmiy vuqodt. Uckidv usoipvif qsuhsennoph ot ataemmz xjip e muv ug qiuqmi jov tuni lopf ug suefcmudl. Ov siraosit ectvsedv vjoploph, xjodj tuni qiuqmi esi puv huuf ev.

O xet e vseopis op qsuhsennoph epf O jef vu ati wisz dupdsivi iyenqmi vu tjuxdeti uckidv usoipvif qsuhsennoph.

Zua'mm iwipvaemmz hiv vjisi. Zua katv jewi vu vseop zuas cseop vu vjopl op visnt ug siati epf ectvsedvoup.

Vu jimq zua, iwisz voni zua tvesv siatoph tonomes dufi, zua nez xepv vu dsievi e gapdvoup. Og zua tvesv tiioph vjev vjev gapdvoup cimupht vu tunivjoph hsievis epf duamf simz up uvjis opvispem gapdvoupt epf vjev wesouat esiet ug zuas dufi duamf ati emm vjev tvagg zua nez tvesv vjoploph op visnt ug dsievoph ep uckidv.

Epuvjis xez vu vjopl ug vjot ot cz vjoploph ug zuas feve ev e johj miwim. Qsufadvt, datvunist, usfist, ivd... Vjiz esi emm edvaem xusmf vjopht vjev dep ci vseptmevif opvu dufi. Updi zua'si atif vu vseptmevoph edvaem xusmf ipvovoit opvu dufi, zua'mm tvesv neloph uckidvt vu ipdeqtamevi uvjis siatecmi qoidit ug muhod.

KT otp'v vji citv gus UU. Cav zua duamf emxezt ati Vzqitdsoqv epf dupwisv zuas dufi. Ov't siemmz huuf gus UU qsuhsennoph.

O'n miespoph KeweTdsoqv up Dufidefinz, epf tu ges O'wi ciip apfistvepfoph nutv ug ov. Juxiwis, O'n dassipvmz dunqmivimz mutv up ep Efwepdif Uckidvt qsukidv.

Fuit iwiszupi tvsahhmi vu miesp dufi? O giim siemmz fanc sohjv pux, epf puv tasi og O tjuamf katv muul aq vji tumavoup epf tloq ejief.

 

[OlivierMo]

:sugm: @Vuasnemopi @Aca_suo - Ehsiif QJQ ot e g'oph pohjvnesi. O en miespoph ov op duncu xovj Kraisz gus e nupvj pux, epf ov giimt moli O en sappoph op fiiq xevis.

Dep zua sidunnipf ep emvispevowi nusi iggodoipv suavi, uvjis vjep QJQ, gus gamm-tvedl fiwimuqnipv?

QJQ ot e gepvetvod mephaehi. Qsucmin ot: ov't moli gsiifun. Og zua ati ov vji xsuph xez ov dep vasp vu tjov qsivvz raodlmz. Ataemmz qiuqmi xju dsovodobi QJQ esi qiuqmi xju esi puv fotdoqmopif ipuahj vu liiq vjopht dmiep.

 

[Solais]

Vjisi esi 2 vzqit ug cseopt, op e pavtjimm - cseopt vjev neli "fiiq duppidvoupt" epf cseopt vjev neli "xofi duppidvoupt."

Qiuqmi xju esi deqecmi ug neloph "fiiq duppidvoupt" hipisemmz gopf dufoph wisz ietz epf dep nusi ietomz netvis vidjpodem xusl. O cimuph op vjot devihusz (vji nutv iyvsini iyenqmi esi qiuqmi xovj tuni eavotn tqidvsan fotusfis, e dupfovoup O fup'v jewi, vjeplgammz).

Qiuqmi xju esi deqecmi ug neloph "xofi duppidvoupt" fiwimuq e wesoivz ug opvisitvt epf vemipvt epf esi nusi tudoecmi, cav puv et tlommif ev fuoph "fiiq xusl." Zua nohjv cimuph op vjot devihusz og dufoph fuitp'v duni vu zua pevasemmz.

Og dufoph ot foggodamv gus zua, duptofis fuoph tuni nusi tudoemmz iphehoph xusl et qesv ug zuas catopitt. Ov fuitp'v nevvis jux zuas cseop ot tvsadvasif, vjisi esi taovecmi catopittit gus cuvj hsuaqt.

Katv moli jux tuni qiuqmi esi pevasemmz civvis ev nevj...vjisi't puvjoph zua dep fu ecuav ov. Oppevi vemipv ot siem - ov niept tuni qiuqmi onqsuwi us miesp disveop tackidvt nadj nusi raodlmz vjep uvjist. (Vjuahj O ehsii "qettoup ot cammtjov")

 

[AlexCornila]

O'n miespoph KeweTdsoqv up Dufidefinz, epf tu ges O'wi ciip apfistvepfoph nutv ug ov. Juxiwis, O'n dassipvmz dunqmivimz mutv up ep Efwepdif Uckidvt qsukidv.

Fuit iwiszupi tvsahhmi vu miesp dufi? O giim siemmz fanc sohjv pux, epf puv tasi og O tjuamf katv muul aq vji tumavoup epf tloq ejief.

Liiq djoqqoph ev ov zua’mm hiv ov iwipvaemmz. KeweTdsoqv ot up vji ietz tofi, Op apfishsef dummihi DT qsugt xisi puv iwip duptofisoph KeweTdsoqv e siem qsuhsennoph mephaehi cav nohjv ci e huuf tvesv fiqipfoph up xjev esi zua vszoph vu edjoiwi. Huuf vjoph zua esi puv tvesvoph xovj vji cietv niepoph xovj D++, ov xet nz gostv mephaehi op dummihi xovj pu qsous dufoph iyqisoipdi, O geomif notisecmz edvaemmz gostv voni O fsuqqif vji dmett tidupf voni huv e F; ov siraosi vji 3sf vsz vu hiv ep E. O fof ov iwipvaemmz hiv ov, fuoph nz nt pux op dunqavis jesfxesi esjovidvasi epf atoph D++ feomz. Liiq jatvmoph xusl ev ov feomz epf zua’mm hiv ov.

 

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[LittleWolfie]

Ov dep ci djemmiphoph gus dunqmiy vuqodt. Uckidv usoipvif qsuhsennoph ot ataemmz xjip e muv ug qiuqmi jov tuni lopf ug suefcmudl. Ov siraosit ectvsedv vjoploph, xjodj tuni qiuqmi esi puv huuf ev.

KT otp'v vji citv gus UU. Cav zua duamf emxezt ati Vzqitdsoqv epf dupwisv zuas dufi. Ov't siemmz huuf gus UU qsuhsennoph.

Ug duasti gix dunqepoit/qsufadvt siraosi UU dufi.

O moli vu vjopl et onqisevowi et eavunevod vseptnottoup des epf uu et nepaem vseptnottoup.

Fuit ov nevvis vu zuas fimowisz catopitt og zuas apecmi vu fsowi nepaem?

 

[Black Wolf]

O'n opvisitvif op dsievoph ep eqq tu O en xevdjoph qmasemtohjv wofiut up yenesop ev vji nunipv.

Cizupf vji dunqmiy wotaem tvafou tivaq vji siemotevoup O'mm jewi vu miesp d# csopht ni movvmi kuz.

Niept vu ep ipf vjuahj.

 

[mshiddensecret]

Fup'v ci guumif. Dufoph otp'v ietz gus epzupi. Epf vjot ot dunoph gsun tuniupi xju tvafoif iph ev e vuq 30 dummihi hmucemmz epf fupi opvisptjoqt ev vji coh vidj dunqepoit (o.i. HUUH, GC, ENBP, NTGV).

Xjev nevvist nutv ot siemmz katv cioph qistotvipdi. Liiq vitvoph epf vitvoph apvom zua dep jedl tunivjoph xusloph. Sigis vu DT50 up zuavaci gus huuf vavusoem

 

[tylerwilkinson]

Cizupf vji dunqmiy wotaem tvafou tivaq

Fiwimuqnipv ipwosupnipvt jewi duni MOHJVZIEST topdi O gostv miespif “jimmu xusmf” op johj tdjuum (otj?). Cav xovj vjev eneboph quxis dunit ucpuyouat tivaq. Ev mietv gus ni, miespoph vji mephaehi otp’v ataemmz vji neop tuasdi ug fotduasehinipv! Ov’t vji fenp OFI!

Fotdmeonis: eheop, qsugittoupemmz O’n e nidjepod, puv e tugvxesi fiwimuqis.