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Here's trying "the foundation" method to starting.<br />
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How would you start from $0?<br />
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I gave Leo some tactics and strategy I've come across in my own life that are tested for casual use with friends and relationships based on what I know about the foundation and being an employee for a business.<br />
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My theory and tactics are currently untested for starting a business though from $0 though.
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I've touched on this a bit in this thread and others.<br />
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I'll include the highlights again here ( a few ). <b><span style="color: #ff0000">When I reference "See Above" below, this is what you should come back to</span></b><br />
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Domain experience</li>
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</ul>Neither of those require money. But they do require time and expertise. Putting yourself in an authority position will more than likely require content from you in some form. Again no money is needed though.<br />
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Once you get to that level, you will need to be able to have a great idea. One that can bring people into your company for little or no money unless you plan to do it all yourself. Is this optimal? NO. But thats 1 way you could do it with $0 and for some reason wanted to stick to that.<br />
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You could also get people to buy in and invest.<br />
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You also need to meet CENTS somewhat too.<br />
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Some forum recommended books have even stated that money hurts more than helps. My own experience has confirmed this: Other people's money doesn't help. Excess cash has only helped me fail in a spectacular way.
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I think cash can help. Do you have to have it? No.<br />
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If excess cash caused you to fail, you weren't disciplined at that time in your life when it came to you. This is not a personal dig at you. Most people are this way.<br />
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I haven't tried the $0 approach though because I always thought it takes money to start rather than certain critical resources.<br />
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I will PM you the theory I have on how to start from nothing if you want to just check it across your experience without answering publicly.
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Please PM. Though it might take me days to answer back<br />
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You could pollute the SaaS industry overnight with the answer.<br />
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You also saw my other thread asking about databases to search for market information. Please answer what you would use for that research.
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I don't know of any databases myself. However I did comment if you found someone to do this work and do it right, you would have to pay them more than you offered.<br />
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I personally think you don't need any cash to start or experience. You usually don't need much if any experience for most jobs (non-technical and even some technical because they train). Lots of things in life can be learned when taking action because life is a non-linear path.
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I somewhat agree, and somewhat disagree.<br />
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I fully think you need experience in something to start a SaaS.<br />
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I can't start a SaaS helping mothers with ovulation issues if I don't really understand women and ovulation and the WHYs behind it. I could fake knowing, but it will come through in my product eventually.<br />
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1. How would you start from $0 without coding?<br />
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You may keep your technical experience on directing projects.
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I posted some of it above.<br />
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2. How would someone get to project completion and first customers?
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See above<br />
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3. What database would you use for your research?
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See above<br />
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4. What would you look for in a market to build an industry solution?
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See above<br />
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5. What would you look for in a product?
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See above<br />
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6. For non-technical creators would you use a low-code or robust no-code system like bubble.is?
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If you rely on 3rd parties, you will fail at some point. They will be the weakest link in your chain. Code your own, on your own platform<br />
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If you had no technical experience.<br />
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7. Do you think it's possible in 2017 to start with $0 and build a SaaS. Please give a defense if you think so because some people trash the method who are credible.
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Yes. I started with no money each time. Is that odd?<br />
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No.<br />
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I firmly believe that each project pays its own rent from day 1. Therefor no project gets a "loan" or other freebie from another current or prior project. They work and stay in their own silos.<br />
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2017 is no different than 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, etc.<br />
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If anything, things are cheaper now than then.<br />
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If you have no tech experience you can find a tech co-founder or raise money and pay for one that way.<br />
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It's not easy or fast, but you didn't include those adjectives in your question.<br />
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8. How profitable do you think doing it that way would be? Exit potential? Lifestyle potential? Start to lifestyle change potential?
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How you start ( at $0 or $10k ), does not dictate profitability. It also does not predict exit potential or lifestyle or change.<br />
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Maybe it does if you took in investment or gave out equity, but it entirely depends on what numbers YOU choose if you do that.<br />
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Really want to get a fact check from someone who has done this 7 times differently than Dane Maxwell.<br />
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I listed 5 ways I think you can get to a profitable idea in the Saasify thread. There should be many ways to start as well.
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Im not for or against Dane.<br />
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There are 1,000 ways to cook chili.<br />
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You can add peppers, put in noodles, eat it cold or use turkey instead of hamburger, etc.<br />
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No matter what you do, you made chili in the end.<br />
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You can cook chili with $100 in ingredients, or $0 in ingredients.<br />
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There is no recipe for SaaS, just like there really isn't one for chili.<br />
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