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A great book is Way of the Superior Man, it's about how a man should place his Mission as a priority and dating and everything else comes secondary. I agree with that, and I created this visualization which helps me alot:

I'm a powerful train on a track. I'm headed exactly where I want to go to reach my destination, the tracks are laid down already and in place. Passengers can hop on and hop off of my train anytime. If a woman is amazing and comes into my life, that's great, she can stay as long as things are awesome, we have fun together, I can love her, etc. but she is on my tracks. I'm still on my track no matter what. The train doesn't go a different direction/path no matter how badly the passengers want it to, its on a set track. Friends headed to the same direction as you will hop on and stay too, etc. They can also hop off whenever they want and that's fine. I'm on my track and headed where I'm going no matter what.

This is a great perspective.

What I've learned about women is not to think about them to much. Some men may become consumed by them and try to chase 'the one' constantly. They may also be devastated when they split up.

You have to prioritize your own goals and achieve them financially, socially, mentally, and physically. In each category I am working toward a goal. Women are simply a part of the social aspect of life which, while important, doesn't define me as an individual. So long as I'm reaching goals it keeps me mentally focused and self-esteem high.

A curious side effect of this is that women will be more naturally attracted to men like this, since by improving yourself, you're improving the qualities women find more attractive. You can't force attraction, all you can do is work to improve yourself and your attraction level will increase.

Since I've shifted to this mindset I've found myself speaking with more women than I ever did when I was focusing on them instead to fill my needs.

I typically avoid women that play games. Whoever this woman is it sounds like she is very confused and needs time to sort out her own shit.
 
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It really pissed me off when I found out that her ex regularly visits her.

In this context, "visits" means something else. She's not worthy one more moment of your life.

Whenever guys overanalyze the crap out of "this one girl" scenario's it's a key indicator of needing more experience with women in general before investing so much time/energy into this ONE woman.

+1000


However, she started covering her a$$ by saying that she doesn't like/love/respect him (blah, blah, blah...).

This in itself is ugly, plus it makes as much sense as "I really don't like beer, so I drink it every day".


Yesterday she texted me "you are so quiet, I hate this silence, how are you doing?". She regularly sends such messages to me, because I am working on my own stuff now.

She's just playing you, it's a game for her. You shouldn't put any weight on her words because there isn't any.


Although I am bald and look older, I am 24 years old. One side of me realizes that I should concentrate only on business, the other side, however is dreaming of having a proper partner beside me - this is probably a biological mating instinct or something like that lol.

Man, you're at the best age ever!

Bald = Bold
Older = Mature

All good stuff.


You can have a girlfriend and work on your business too. And she can actually support you, help you succeed and keep you in check.

Just move on from this one.

Experience will teach you what a waste of time she was, and how many other options you have as soon as tonight...girls in your city, at the bars, on the streets, at the beaches, libraries, meetups, friends of your friends...great, quality girls, looking for a quality guy like yourself and wondering if such a guy even exists.

Your options are vast and abundant, and I hope you'll make the best out of it. To that - I toast:)
 

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To put it bluntly she had some attraction for you but you didn't know the social dynamics aka game. You were her backup option in case her ex didn't work out. Don't pedestal a woman because that reeks of desperation and shows lack of options. This mindset gives off a vibe you are a low status male or just a provider. It sounds harsh but hopefully you learned from this experience.
 

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In this context, "visits" means something else. She's not worthy one more moment of your life.



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This in itself is ugly, plus it makes as much sense as "I really don't like beer, so I drink it every day".




She's just playing you, it's a game for her. You shouldn't put any weight on her words because there isn't any.




Man, you're at the best age ever!

Bald = Bold
Older = Mature

All good stuff.


You can have a girlfriend and work on your business too. And she can actually support you, help you succeed and keep you in check.

Just move on from this one.

Experience will teach you what a waste of time she was, and how many other options you have as soon as tonight...girls in your city, at the bars, on the streets, at the beaches, libraries, meetups, friends of your friends...great, quality girls, looking for a quality guy like yourself and wondering if such a guy even exists.

Your options are vast and abundant, and I hope you'll make the best out of it. To that - I toast:)

Thanks very much! Have no words to describe how thankful I am for your contribution to this thread! If it wasn't for you guys, I would have been in a lot worse situation than now...probably still thinking and daydreaming about her. But...now I honestly don't give a F about her anymore. I am slowly detaching myself emotionally from her. She's not genuine product on the market anyways.
 
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Hi Guys,
The thing is...in multiple occasions we were sitting together in a close enough proximity for me to kiss her. However, I did not. I like her a lot and don't want to mess things up, however I also realize that by moving too slowly I might lose her, but then again...if she likes me, she would not leave me just for this, I suppose. To put it simply, I've never kissed her yet, because I had no balls to do so.

Does it sound like we are in a relationship, what's going on in my situation, guys? Any suggestions welcome.

Holy F*cking mother of God, Johowah, Mohammed just go for the F*cking kiss next time.
And don't ever repeat this mistake again.
Don't waste your life time by waiting around and wondering.
KILL THE F*ckING PAIN NOW.
You must always go for the kiss in the first date with a girl you like.
You either are going to kiss and (live happily ever after {not really}), or you're going to cut every contact with her.
By waiting around you are killing every bit of your self esteem and wasting your youth years which you will never get back.
Step up and be the man, don't just be her GAY MALE GIRLFRIEND.

[HASHTAG]#Sent[/HASHTAG] from my smartphone
 

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Holy F*cking mother of God, Johowah, Mohammed just go for the F*cking go for the kiss next time.
And don't ever repeat this mistake again.
Don't waste your life time by waiting around and wondering.
KILL THE F*ckING PAIN NOW.
You must always go for the kiss in the first date with a girl you like.
You either are going to kiss and (live happily ever after {not really}), or you're going to cut every contact with her.
By waiting around you are killing every bit of your self esteem and wasting your youth years which you will never get back.
Step up and be the man, don't just be her GAY MALE GIRLFRIEND.

[HASHTAG]#Sent[/HASHTAG] from my smartphone

The situation is out-dated now. Anyways, I've learned my lessons and time spent with her provided many valuable insights into women's logic. She's still playing the game, but slowly realizing that I am not that interested in it anymore. I am interested in finding a proper woman who truly knows what she wants from her life, instead of someone who is running in circles without any direction in mind. Thanks for contribution!
 

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The situation is out-dated now. Anyways, I've learned my lessons and time spent with her provided many valuable insights into women's logic. She's still playing the game, but slowly realizing that I am not that interested in it anymore. I am interested in finding a proper woman who truly knows what she wants from her life, instead of someone who is running in circles without any direction in mind. Thanks for contribution!
I read the later answers after I replied. But good for you for moving on, and learning the lessons.
Definitely follow Coach Corey Wayne videos on YouTube and read his book "How to be a 3% man" multiple times. He's a lifesaver and always 100% spot on with his advice. You will never find a better coach for no-bullshit relationship advice ;)


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Thanks very much! Have no words to describe how thankful I am for your contribution to this thread! If it wasn't for you guys, I would have been in a lot worse situation than now...probably still thinking and daydreaming about her. But...now I honestly don't give a F about her anymore. I am slowly detaching myself emotionally from her. She's not genuine product on the market anyways.

Stop talking about her! Not one more (expletive deleted) sentence!

Listen to Uncle Tony (below):


Get money.

Then Power.

Then women.


Sing the chorus (above) until the mindset is part of your nervous system.

Look at the video below.

Does it look like that guy has "girl problems"?

No... and you don't have to be a gangster or rapper to take advantage of the seductive power of wealth (especially in a society and world full of women stuck in the slow lane).

 

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Stop talking about her! Not one more (expletive deleted) sentence!

Listen to Uncle Tony (below):


Get money.

Then Power.

Then women.


Sing the chorus (above) until the mindset is part of your nervous system.

Look at the video below.

Does it look like that guy has "girl problems"?

No... and you don't have to be a gangster or rapper to take advantage of the seductive power of wealth (especially in a society and world full of women stuck in the slow lane).

+1.

Minus all of the drugs and death, Scarface is a ridiculously educational tale of a man's rise to the upper echelons of wealth and power.

Money --> Power --> Women. IN THAT ORDER. Much more fun, AND much easier that way.
 

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+1.

Minus all of the drugs and death, Scarface is a ridiculously educational tale of a man's rise to the upper echelons of wealth and power.

Money --> Power --> Women. IN THAT ORDER. Much more fun, AND much easier that way.

You know what they say about situations like this: Time heals all wounds.

And time is money.

Oh, snap.
 
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Six pages later...

Women problems everywhere have been resolved.

IMO many forum members provided valuable insights related to dating women, hence it should be marked 'NOTABLE'. It's just my opinion.
 

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we also figured money before woman too therefor we learned a valuable lesson
Figire out yourself above all else. Everything else is a result of that.

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It's hard for early Zuck. So smart, so misunderstood, so unable to understand her.

At the end, she gets the last word on him.

Ouch.

So he worked.



Look at young Zuck, the hero-version only just beginning to reveal itself.

So focused, so focused, so focused, listening intently to the Gates speech.

His reputation precedes him, the effect of hard work paying off in ways even beyond monetary.

Notice how the girls chase him?

He got the date, without even saying a word. Perhaps that's why they say that actions speak louder than words.
 
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Hi Guys,

Typically, I post business relevant posts. In this case, however, I need some of your relationship advice.

Ok, so I met this 28 y/o girl last summer on Facebook (24 y/o myself). She is a mutual friend of another friend and was just a month since she left her boyfriend after 6 years in a relationship. She said she left him because he didn't want anything from life, was working 8-5 and didn't plan anything in life. She said she wanted to move while still young.

She's currently living in the same town I do, lives with mother and sister and is doing her best in order to find herself. She's reading a lot, working in cafe shop and is enthusiastic about self-development.

I started seeing her in August. We had numerous park meetings, some nature adventure trips, like 30 tea meetings, meetings in random places and so on... so, more or less we see each other once a week. At the beginning of our seeings she was kinda cold and said that she doesn't want me to fall in love with her, when I asked her out after only 3 months of seeing her.

Three months ago, however, she started saying how well we fulfill each other and intensified requests for meetings. If I hinted that I like some particular type of women she started indirectly convincing me that she's kinda like that in a way...ok, I sent flowers for Valentines to her work place and two weeks after that some more flowers just because I wanted to randomly surprise her, she was very happy about it. Now, she's very close to me emotionally, she finally asks me to collect her from home when we meet, is a lot more open when we are talking and texts me a lot. Also, she started sending quotations and songs about soul mates, that I'm her soul mate and similar stuff....

The thing is...in multiple occasions we were sitting together in a close enough proximity for me to kiss her. However, I did not. I like her a lot and don't want to mess things up, however I also realize that by moving too slowly I might lose her, but then again...if she likes me, she would not leave me just for this, I suppose. To put it simply, I've never kissed her yet, because I had no balls to do so.

Does it sound like we are in a relationship, what's going on in my situation, guys? Any suggestions welcome.

Ugaybro?
 
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This thread illuminates much more than the realities of male/female interactions; it contains lessons on life in general. Kudos to all of the veterans for their input and otherwise wise input.

I recently met a woman that I think typifies what Uncle Tony meant when he gave his classic money, power, respect lecture to his brother:


Notice what happens when Uncle Tony asks a random girl if she would like have ice cream with him. Perfectly reasonable question, right? Would you like to have ice cream with me?

And yet, look what happens. He gets shot down. She tells him to get lost.

After they both suffer rejections, Uncle Tony has seen enough.

And then he gives us the only part of the clip that you should really hone in on:


First, you get The Money.

"The money," however, can also serve as a kind of metaphorically infused double entendre, because "money" represents any long-term, real goal that naturally attracts women.

"The Money" can refer to a dope physique, or a high level of athleticism, or mastering some form of art or music. Women get weak for six-pack abs and musicians.

Regarding women, I don't have all of the answers. All I can do is learn every day. To be perfectly honest, the fairer sex amazes me, mostly because of the dramatic differences between us and them.

I never struggled to meet women. Quite the contrary. I attract women easily, and therefore often got myself into unpleasant - and sometimes horrendous - situations because of attracting the wrong type of woman (and not being able to see that).

Today, I know what I love in a woman, and I know what I don't like. As we all (should) know, defining what you want in life constitutes half of the battle. The other half entails going after what you want, as if you really want it (i.e. you don't have other conflicting desires).

Leaving Chicago and relocating to the island made all of the difference that I knew it would. The quality of the women in my life has multiplied exponentially, in a short amount of time.

Beautiful, independent, successful women that you can hustle and make money with... that's my idea of heaven on earth.
 

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