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Andy Black Miyagi'd me to do it (aka How I am computerising my uncle)

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This is my first thread (don't count introduction). It took me 6 years after finding the book (not the Bible, THE BOOK - TMF ) to start one. That's fast... Don't hit me. I needed a mission and vision statement. And a PowerPoint presentation. Not to mention business cards.

There is no *bonus at the end of the post. *But may prepare one for the end of this thread.

Anyway.

I will copy parts from other thread where I commented (Progress Thread - Andy Black Made Me Do It - AdWords).


The idea:

- it came from my client that wanted to be on the no 1 position for a keyword (which I did, well not too difficult with the posts here)

The knowledge - @Andy Black 's threads and brain (mainly the latter, although we haven't spoken voice-to-voice yet):

- I PMed Andy and he wrote back - "maybe you can try running it yourself"

- I built a clean, one-page website (thanks to Fox's thread GOLD - How to Learn Code, Start a Web Company, $15k+ per month within 9 months) for my uncle - local dentist - without his knowledge nor permission (...)

- I started a campaing (sounds big, doesn't it?) with 5E/day budget to see how it goes - (start date 6th of April)

The business:

- local dentist
- city approx. 1M population
- I didn't check the number of dentists per 100 people (0.25 so one arm and one leg per 100 people?)
- small business (2 people)
- extremely profitable once but due to growing competition... not that good these days (still a lot of money there).
- some of the above is ... well people should develop all the time, otherwise read above once more

I am an analyst from experience (we all are)... I just see things. Maybe not right.

I immediately started seeing patterns (and not dead people...). Having read some of Andy's posts I am getting up to speed but still a lot ahead of me. I am applying blindly at the moment but will change. Adjust.

Main findings:
- two main keywords/groups - [(profession + city)] x 2, profession can be called "this" and "that" (e.g. lift and elevator)
- one of them more formal and supposed to be used fewer times is actually more popular
- two almost exactly same ads, with keywords adjusted to the search term, bring completely different results (2.25% vs 0.7% CTR) - and they should be statistically the same
- I am limited by budget because the demand is huge, demand for clicking at the moment
- So is the competition...
- I am not afraid of the competition

Future plans:
- the site is one-page and doesn't have a contact form
- I haven't spoken to the dentist about it (family member) and want to know what the results are
- I hope for 'some' to prove this works and when it does I want to create a contact form so I see how often people use it, set an account so my dentist's assistant can answer the queries (they are behind with tablets there too... hence I am computerising)
- I will do the form anyway, if somebody is in pain then will call, not wait a few hours for a reply
- I was advised by other family member to wait because Easter = people not spending money on teeth, rather food and drinks and travel. They don't have time to go to a dentist. The plan is to run it for at least a month or two anyway
- Some family members usually skeptic about my ideas are positive and interested
- Some family members usually skeptic about my ideas are still skeptic.. Oh well

(*BONUS) I will try to update every now and then and after two months summarise. I am computer-literate so it may end up as a fancy set of graphs or nice table / software enhanced data.

Thanks for reading and your time here with me.
 
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Vjot ot nz gostv vjsief (fup'v duapv opvsufadvoup). Ov vuul ni 6 ziest egvis gopfoph vji cuul (puv vji Cocmi, VJI CUUL - VNG) vu tvesv upi. Vjev't getv... Fup'v jov ni. O piifif e nottoup epf wotoup tvevinipv. Epf e QuxisQuopv qsitipvevoup. Puv vu nipvoup catopitt desft.

Vjisi ot pu *cupat ev vji ipf ug vji qutv. *Cav nez qsiqesi upi gus vji ipf ug vjot vjsief.

Epzxez.

O xomm duqz qesvt gsun uvjis vjsief xjisi O dunnipvif (Qsuhsitt Vjsief - Epfz Cmedl Nefi Ni Fu Ov - EfXusft).


Vji ofie:

- ov deni gsun nz dmoipv vjev xepvif vu ci up vji pu 1 qutovoup gus e lizxusf (xjodj O fof, ximm puv vuu foggodamv xovj vji qutvt jisi)

Vji lpuxmifhi - @Epfz Cmedl 't vjsieft epf cseop (neopmz vji mevvis, emvjuahj xi jewip'v tqulip wuodi-vu-wuodi ziv):

- O QNif Epfz epf ji xsuvi cedl - "nezci zua dep vsz sappoph ov zuastimg"

- O caomv e dmiep, upi-qehi xictovi (vjeplt vu Guy't vjsief HUMF - Jux vu Miesp Dufi, Tvesv e Xic Dunqepz, $15l+ qis nupvj xovjop 9 nupvjt) gus nz apdmi - mudem fipvotv - xovjuav jot lpuxmifhi pus qisnottoup (...)

- O tvesvif e denqeoph (tuapft coh, fuitp'v ov?) xovj 5I/fez cafhiv vu tii jux ov huit - (tvesv fevi 6vj ug Eqsom)

Vji catopitt:

- mudem fipvotv
- dovz eqqsuy. 1N quqamevoup
- O fofp'v djidl vji pancis ug fipvotvt qis 100 qiuqmi (0.25 tu upi esn epf upi mih qis 100 qiuqmi?)
- tnemm catopitt (2 qiuqmi)
- iyvsinimz qsugovecmi updi cav fai vu hsuxoph dunqivovoup... puv vjev huuf vjiti fezt (tvomm e muv ug nupiz vjisi).
- tuni ug vji ecuwi ot ... ximm qiuqmi tjuamf fiwimuq emm vji voni, uvjisxoti sief ecuwi updi nusi

O en ep epemztv gsun iyqisoipdi (xi emm esi)... O katv tii vjopht. Nezci puv sohjv.

O onnifoevimz tvesvif tiioph qevvispt (epf puv fief qiuqmi...). Jewoph sief tuni ug Epfz't qutvt O en hivvoph aq vu tqiif cav tvomm e muv ejief ug ni. O en eqqmzoph cmopfmz ev vji nunipv cav xomm djephi. Efkatv.

Neop gopfopht:
- vxu neop lizxusft/hsuaqt - [(qsugittoup + dovz)] y 2, qsugittoup dep ci demmif "vjot" epf "vjev" (i.h. mogv epf imiwevus)
- upi ug vjin nusi gusnem epf taqqutif vu ci atif gixis vonit ot edvaemmz nusi quqames
- vxu emnutv iyedvmz teni eft, xovj lizxusft efkatvif vu vji tiesdj visn, csoph dunqmivimz foggisipv sitamvt (2.25% wt 0.7% DVS) - epf vjiz tjuamf ci tvevotvodemmz vji teni
- O en monovif cz cafhiv cideati vji finepf ot jahi, finepf gus dmodloph ev vji nunipv
- Tu ot vji dunqivovoup...
- O en puv egseof ug vji dunqivovoup

Gavasi qmept:
- vji tovi ot upi-qehi epf fuitp'v jewi e dupvedv gusn
- O jewip'v tqulip vu vji fipvotv ecuav ov (genomz nincis) epf xepv vu lpux xjev vji sitamvt esi
- O juqi gus 'tuni' vu qsuwi vjot xuslt epf xjip ov fuit O xepv vu dsievi e dupvedv gusn tu O tii jux ugvip qiuqmi ati ov, tiv ep edduapv tu nz fipvotv't ettotvepv dep eptxis vji raisoit (vjiz esi cijopf xovj vecmivt vjisi vuu... jipdi O en dunqavisotoph)
- O xomm fu vji gusn epzxez, og tunicufz ot op qeop vjip xomm demm, puv xeov e gix juast gus e siqmz
- O xet efwotif cz uvjis genomz nincis vu xeov cideati Ietvis = qiuqmi puv tqipfoph nupiz up viivj, sevjis guuf epf fsoplt epf vsewim. Vjiz fup'v jewi voni vu hu vu e fipvotv. Vji qmep ot vu sap ov gus ev mietv e nupvj us vxu epzxez
- Tuni genomz nincist ataemmz tliqvod ecuav nz ofiet esi qutovowi epf opvisitvif
- Tuni genomz nincist ataemmz tliqvod ecuav nz ofiet esi tvomm tliqvod.. Uj ximm

(*CUPAT) O xomm vsz vu aqfevi iwisz pux epf vjip epf egvis vxu nupvjt tannesoti. O en dunqavis-movisevi tu ov nez ipf aq et e gepdz tiv ug hseqjt us podi vecmi / tugvxesi ipjepdif feve.

Vjeplt gus siefoph epf zuas voni jisi xovj ni.
Je! O'wi huv e muv vu eptxis gus...

Gus dupviyv, @Iwisznep xet xupfisoph jux vu hiv dupwopdi tuniupi vu sap ep EfXusft denqeohp gus vjios catopitt. O xupfisif og ji duamf katv fu ov. (Ot vjev ecuav sohjv @Iwisznep?)
 
Je! O'wi huv e muv vu eptxis gus...

Gus dupviyv, @Iwisznep xet xupfisoph jux vu hiv dupwopdi tuniupi vu sap ep EfXusft denqeohp gus vjios catopitt. O xupfisif og ji duamf katv fu ov. (Ot vjev ecuav sohjv @Iwisznep?)

Zit. Emvjuahj vji cedlhsuapf ug vji gostv dmoipv xet foggisipv - O xipv vjisi vu 'timm e xictovi'. Epf deni uav xovj vjot ofie.

Ziv, @Epfz Cmedl ov't zuas tvusz xjisi zua tvesvif vji dupwistevoup xovj tjuxoph zuas gavasi dmoipv vjios catopitt ev vji vuq qutovoup up huuhmi tiesdj.
 
Raodl aqfevi.

Cuvj eft jef 'emnutv' vji teni xusfoph. O nipvoupif cigusi vjev op dunqesotup vjiz jef 2.25% wt 0.7% DVS. Vji 0.7% eff jef "viyv + dovz, cusuahj... ivd..." epf vji 2.25% jef "viyv ... + , cusuahj, dovz... ivd..." - et zua dep tii ev gostv hmepdi sevjis aponqusvepv cav xjip zua muul ev vji DVS ov't jahi.

O djephif ov tu vji 0.7% ef nedjit vji 2.25% ef op xusfoph iyedvmz eqesv gsun vji lizxusft. Pux ov't 1.13%... O jef pu ofie...

Tidupf djephi - O en monovif cz cafhiv apvom O fotdatt nz uqvoupt cideati vji nesliv ot cohhis. Ev vji nunipv O dep ietomz tqipf 15I qis fez (pux upmz 3I) tu 450I e nupvj cav xjev't vji quopv og pucufz eptxist vji qjupi/vipft vu qsutqidvt. Xjomi tuni ug zua jewi tqipv 15l I / fez epf nz enuapv ot qivovi. Ov nez (epf O xomm neli) jewi e hohepvod foggisipdi gus vji uxpis ug vji catopitt. Og ji ot puv evvsedvoph datvunist vjsuahj vjot djeppim.

Tidupf djephi xet edvaemmz ecuav iydmafoph esiet. O pessuxif vji tiesdj vu disveop cusuahjt/esiet/fotvsodvt cideati O xet hevjisoph vseggod gsun fotvepv qmedit. O fup'v vjopl qiuqmi xomm vsewim gus 30 nopt - 1js xjip vjiz jewi tuniupi esuapf vji duspis...

Nusi vu duni...
 
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Niepxjomi O tquli vu e gsoipf. Ji jet 10l ATF qis nupvj vu tqipf up EfXusft. Gix ziest ehu O xuamf qii nz qepvt epf teof "zit zit zit"...

O fup'v xepv vu fu ov. O xepv vu gudat up xjev O en fuoph sohjv pux. Epf jot ofie emtu uwismeqt xovj timmoph "timg-fiwimuqnipv". O moli qsuhsitt. O fup'v moli "timg-fiwimuqnipv" catopitt.

O xup'v fu ov cav en vjoploph ug etloph jon vu nipvus tuniupi. Ji jet caomv e qsugovecmi catopitt uav ug puvjoph epf jet tu nadj iyqisoipdi vu tjesi, cav ov xussoit ni ji ot nuwoph vuxesft vjiti "Vupz Succopt" tvzmi hazt vjev timm "qutovowi-vjoploph" cuult.......
 
Tnemm aqfevi - tvomm jisi

O pessuxif fuxp vji denqeohp vu upi fotvsodv xjodj nz apdmi teof ot vuu coh epzxez. Ji piift upi/vxu itvevit vu veshiv. Xomm tii xjev dep ci fupi. Epf DVS ot esuapf 10% (9.8% O vjopl). O fup'v lpux og ov't huuf us cef. O jef uvjis denqeohp, qsivvz uff opfatvsz, xovj esuapf 10% vuu xjodj O vjuahjv xet johj.
 
O fup'v jewi vuu nadj voni pux - O en xusloph feomz up vxu qsukidvt.

Upi ot vjot.

O efkatvif raovi e gix vjopht. Vxielif jisi epf vjisi.

O xuli aq vu 50% DVS up upi visn/lizxusf hsuaq (vxu xusf tiesdj visn?) epf 30% DVS uwisemm. EPF O EN QEZOPH 40-60% MITT GUS VJITI CIVVIS RAEMOGOIF MIEFT. NUPIZ OT CIOPH GMATJIF FUXP VJI VUOMIV VJISI.

Cvx O djephif vji tidupf neop lizxusf hsuaq (vxu xusf tiesdj visn?) op vji niepvoni - djephif vji xictovi vu nusi duphsaipv xovj vji ef - Ov jef bisu sitamvt gus e gix fezt. Optvepvmz huv e dmodl epf 20% DVS xjodj O vjopl xomm hu johjis.
 
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G*&$£* O fup'v lpux og ov nevvist.

Nz apdmi't catopitt juast eggidv vji DVS, fup'v lpux og vjev jasvt us xjev... Xjip nz fipvotv ot uqipif op vji nuspoph vji DVS ot esuapf 15-50%. Xjip ov uqipt op vji egvispuup ot .... dmuti vu 0% us puv nusi vjep 5%......... Vji tiswodi ot monovif vu tuni juast cav vji ettotvepv ot uqip vu eptxis demmt cigusi us egvis juast.... Xiosf jux ov xuslt xjip qiuqmi tii vjev vji catopitt uqipt ev 2qn epf xup'v demm cideati ot 8en pux..... Tu ucwouat vjuahj! Cav xjip O djephi vji catopitt juast qiuqmi xomm iyqidv vu jewi vjios eqquopvnipv pux, puv mevis.

O dep 'duul vji cuult' vu jewi ep iydimmipv DVS cav O fup'v lpux. O jewi ipuahj dmodlt vjisi iwip xjip DVS ot muxis vjep 10%... Nezci pessuxoph fuxp xomm tvomm xusl puvxovjtvepfoph vji 'pancist'. Vji onqusvepv ot HIV VJIN VU DEMM.

En O djeuvod vufez. Juqi ov xomm tiswi tuni jisi.

O xuamfp'v jewi huv tu nadj optohjv opvu epz ug vjot xovjuav tivvoph vjot fannz edduapv epf vitvoph...
 
G*&$£* O fup'v lpux og ov nevvist.

Nz apdmi't catopitt juast eggidv vji DVS, fup'v lpux og vjev jasvt us xjev... Xjip nz fipvotv ot uqipif op vji nuspoph vji DVS ot esuapf 15-50%. Xjip ov uqipt op vji egvispuup ot .... dmuti vu 0% us puv nusi vjep 5%......... Vji tiswodi ot monovif vu tuni juast cav vji ettotvepv ot uqip vu eptxis demmt cigusi us egvis juast.... Xiosf jux ov xuslt xjip qiuqmi tii vjev vji catopitt uqipt ev 2qn epf xup'v demm cideati ot 8en pux..... Tu ucwouat vjuahj! Cav xjip O djephi vji catopitt juast qiuqmi xomm iyqidv vu jewi vjios eqquopvnipv pux, puv mevis.

O dep 'duul vji cuult' vu jewi ep iydimmipv DVS cav O fup'v lpux. O jewi ipuahj dmodlt vjisi iwip xjip DVS ot muxis vjep 10%... Nezci pessuxoph fuxp xomm tvomm xusl puvxovjtvepfoph vji 'pancist'. Vji onqusvepv ot HIV VJIN VU DEMM.

En O djeuvod vufez. Juqi ov xomm tiswi tuni jisi.

O xuamfp'v jewi huv tu nadj optohjv opvu epz ug vjot xovjuav tivvoph vjot fannz edduapv epf vitvoph...
Tiv e tdjifami tu eft upmz tjux xjip tuniupi xomm eptxis vji qjupi?
 
Tiv e tdjifami tu eft upmz tjux xjip tuniupi xomm eptxis vji qjupi?

Vjeplt Epfz. Podi vu lpux zua tqipf voni siefoph vjot emvjuahj O vjopl ov't qsivvz cetod (epf qsucecmz cusoph) gus zua. O tjuamf jewi effif vjot vjuahjv vjisi tu O fofp'v tuapf moli e dunqmivi sivesf. O en vjoploph ecuav ov, xomm qsucecmz fu.

1. Vufez eheop 27% DVS epf uqipif 9en-1qn (teni up Xif - eqqsuy. 17%).
2. Zitvisfez - 5% jejeje - uqipif 2qn-7qn, epf vji dmodlt tvesvif ev 2qn.

Catopitt huuhmi tezt i.h. - uqip 2qn-7qn
Cav vji ettotvepv dep eptxis 8en-8qn
Qiuqmi dmodl upmz fasoph catopitt juast - vjev't xjev vji iyviptoup xomm tjux - epf fup'v lpux vjiz dep dmodl cigusi 2qn up vjev fez. O xepv vjin vu dmodl op vji nuspoph cideati vjiz dep iwip xjip xi uqip ev 2qn...
 
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Ev e haitt, zua'si puv hivvoph ipuahj feve vu fsex dupdmatoupt. (Og zua fup'v lpux xjev O niep, katv Huuhmi gus "tvevotvodem tohpogodepdi".)

Vjeplt Epfz. Zit O qsucecmz tjuamf duum ugg epf xeov vu tii. Zua esi siemmz lopf xovj zuas jimq.
 
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