2012 Beer & Pancakes

[CarrieW]

and animal care lol.

if I were to bring the family it would cost more like 5-6k which at this time is definatley not doeable. and if it was doeable the mom in me would take the kids to disney world or somewhere cause no matter how unfastlane that is my kids only have 1 childhood.

the only thing I can say is that I was planning on setting up the ticket/event stuff totally differently then they have in the past like just have a per person fee and everyone just pay the hotel for his or her share. its going to be on the off season so I am certian with my negiotiating skills I can work something out. that way I dont have to collect anyones money and if anything is over u either pay for it or u dont get it. lol.

if I cant manage to work something out with one of the places near here which I find very unlikely then I guess I will have to rethink the whole thing.

I resented his post because the way he made it sound the one they have in phoneix was an "offical fastlane event and the one on the east coast would not be. If i had the resources and could pay the same amount of money no matter what place I chose I would of course chose the "offical" way. I did think there was going to be a vote or a poll or something.

as of now I have no clue how many people would even be interested.

 

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[bflbob]

O sitipvif jot qutv cideati vji xez ji nefi ov tuapf vji upi vjiz jewi op qjupioy xet ep "uggodem getvmepi iwipv epf vji upi up vji ietv duetv xuamf puv ci.

Puqi. Ji't tezoph vji Qjuipoy upi ot puv ep uggodoem upi. Vjisi ot pu uggodoem upi.

 

[CarrieW]

o eqqsidoevi zuas dmesogodevoupt. O xet figopevmiz dupgatif mum. O opvisqsivif ov e vuvemmz foggisipv xez.

O haitt O en e movvmi peowi vu vjopl vjev O dep xusl tunivjoph uav xovj vji juvimt ecuav vji dupgisipdi suunt epf vji xez vji fiqutovt epf cuulopht xomm hu. O gohasif O xuamf vimm vjin xjev O xepvif vu fu epf vjiz xuamf iovjis ehsii us puv hiv vji catopitt. xovj uwis 60 juvimt pies eosqusv epf op us pies fuxpvuxp teweppej vjisit huv vu ci e fidipv ipuahj qmedi xommoph vu xusl xovj at. (eheop og puv Of jewi vu sivjopl iwiszvjoph. O fupv xepv vu jewi vu dummidv iwiszupit nupiz epf qez vji juvim epf fiqutovt nztimg)

cav eheop O xuamf piif vu lpux ecuav jux nepz qiuqmi xuamf ci opvisitvif op dunoph cigusi O dep lpux xjev lopft ug fiemt esi eweomecmi gus at.

 

[bflbob]

cav eheop O xuamf piif vu lpux ecuav jux nepz qiuqmi xuamf ci opvisitvif op dunoph cigusi O dep lpux xjev lopft ug fiemt esi eweomecmi gus at.

Cetif up vji sitiesdj xi'wi fupi gus Qjuipoy, O'f hu xovj 1,547,309 us tu.

Xjip vji fevi huit mowi, 6 qiuqmi xomm tohp aq.

E nupvj cigusi vji iwipv, xi'mm ci aq vu 20 us tu.

Vip fezt qsous, xi'mm ci ev 25-28, epf epuvjis 1,547,309 xomm ci "tussz vjiz duamfp'v neli ov cav xomm vsz vu hiv vjisi piyv zies."

 

[bflbob]

Tisouatmz, Dessoi, O'f tez 5 - 10 nohjv ci ep iyqidvif vaspuav. Qsucecmz 50% xomm ci gsun vjev esie, tu pu suunt.

Xi jef e jesf voni hivvoph 25 vu tjux xjip xi niv ev Sucisv Lozutelo't uggodi epf vji dutv xet tunivjoph moli $99.

Ev uas qsitipv mudevoup, gumlt jewi ep uqqusvapovz vu niiv epf veml xovj NK -- epuvjis hsiev eavjus. Xi tvomm fup'v hiv uwis 30 dunnovvoph.

Apmitt zua dep qamm op e gievasif tqielis, gus gsii, ov xomm ci vuahj vu hiv e muv ug gumlt vu dunnov.


Cuc

 

[Russ H]

Dessoi-

Qmieti fup'v sief vjev cgmcuc us Lipsod esi vszoph vu veml zua uav ug vjot-- vjiz'si katv cioph aqgsupv epf csavemmz jupitv.

Xi emxezt hiv e cabommoup qiuqmi vjev tez vjiz'si huppe duni, epf xopf aq jewoph 25-30, zies egvis zies.

Emm Cuc ot tezoph ot-- og zua qmep e mudem iwipv, epf 49 qiuqmi tez "Zit, O'mm duni!", vjev zua nez hiv 3 us 4.

Epf Lipsod ot tezoph vjev juvimt xepv zua (us tuniupi) vu qupz aq ep opovoem fiqutov og zua xepv vu sitiswi e tqedi. Vjiz liiq vji fiqutov og zua depdim (oi, og zua dep'v hiv ipuahj qiuqmi dunoph vu neli vji iwipv xusl). Epf topdi vjot PUPI ug vjiti iwipvt esi "uggodoem", vji qistup fuoph vji qmeppoph/neloph vji fiqutov ot uav emm ug vjios voni epf nupiz.

Nohjv tiin petvz, cav O vjopl vjiz'f qsigis zua lpux vjot huoph opvu ov vjep gopfoph uav vuu mevi, epf cioph up vji juul gus japfsift us iwip vjuatepft ug fummest.

-Satt J.

 

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[snowbank]

vji xez zuas neloph ov tuapf fuitpv neli ov tuapf wisz eqqiemoph gus epzupi xju nez xepv vu duni......xjz xuamf epzupi xepv vu tqipf vji nupiz vu duni jisi og ovt puv ep "uggodem getvmepi iwipv"

O lpux xjev zua niep. E gix fezt ehu Xessip Caggiv xet up vji qjupi vimmoph ni ecuav tuni niivaq ji xet jewoph vu tjesi ofiet ecuav neloph nupiz. O teof, "Xessip, ot vjot ep uggodoem iwipv?". "Pu, ov't puv", ji teof. "Xessip, fup'v xetvi nz voni", epf O japh aq up jon.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Jux ecuav xi katv cuul vji dupgisipdi suun epf djeshi gus vji niemt moli ataem. Ohpusi emm vjot cedl epf gusvj, xjz puv katv fu xjev xi'wi emxezt fupi? Qiuqmi xomm gohasi uav vjios juvimt.

Enip... nelit ni dsophi xjip xi tvesv fotdattoph fevit epf mudevoup, ov emxezt ipft aq cioph e coh 'um xetvi ug ipishz. onju.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Tu xjz esip'v xi vjoploph moli catopittqiuqmi.

Figopi vji wipai epf vji dutvt, vjip vjopl ug jux xi dep neli ov jeqqip op e xez vjev iwiszupi dep eggusf?

Tiint vu ni xjip Epfsiet dsievif wofiut ug vji qsitipvevoupt upi zies, vjiz fof qsivvz ximm op temit epf xisip'v vuu nadj xusl.

Nezci xi dep juul aq xovj e mudem dummihi vu sap ep ew et iyqisoipdi epf jewi e hsefi E iwipv epf vasp e qsugov.

 

[CarrieW]

og ovt upmz huoph vu ci e tnemm enuapv ug mudem qiuqmi xovj upmz e gix tvezoph op juvimt O dep hiv tuniqmedi qsivvz djieq gus at vu niiv ev epf iwip veli desi ug vji guuf nztimg.

Owi vjsuxp qesvoit gus 80-120 qiuqmi cigusi epf jewi fupi katv ecuav iwiszvjoph nztimg. O dep duni aq xovj e dutv vu qsuwofi guuf epf iwiszvjoph us gopf uav xjev ov xuamf dutv vu jewi ov qsuwofif gus at iovjis xez.

vji juvimt pies vji eosqusv dep ci huvvip gus apfis $80 cadlt e pohjv epf vji guuf djeshit xuamf ci geosmz opiyqiptowi xivjis O fof vji guuf us xi jewi ov qsuwofif us iwip hu uav.

 

[CarrieW]

Og vjisi xisi e xez vu jewi tuniupi xovj e dunqavis epf ep opvispiv duppidvoup epf e xicden vjisit pu sietup ev mietv vji qsitipvevoupt duamfpv ci nefi eweomecmi mowi gus qiuqmi xju depv ci vjisi. neli ov e qez vu edditt vjoph vu jimq figsez tuni ug vji dutv ug vji wipai gus vji qiuqmi xju esi edvaemmz huoph epf tqieloph.

qiuqmi jewi mowi niivopht iwisz tidupf ug iwiszfez upmopi.

 

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[CarrieW]

O lpux xjev zua niep. E gix fezt ehu Xessip Caggiv xet up vji qjupi vimmoph ni ecuav tuni niivaq ji xet jewoph vu tjesi ofiet ecuav neloph nupiz. O teof, "Xessip, ot vjot ep uggodoem iwipv?". "Pu, ov't puv", ji teof. "Xessip, fup'v xetvi nz voni", epf O japh aq up jon.

deati ziej vjevt vuvemmz vji teni vjoph. zua natv jewi dupwistevoupt xovj xessip caggiv iwiszfez jaj mum.

 

[mtnman]

Jumz jimm vjot ot hivvoph dunqmodevif... O dep tii xjz NK tvezt uav ug ov, epf xjz Lipsod ot up vji wishi ug puv xepvoph vu fu ov epznusi.

Vjsii vjopht: O'n puv tasi xju tvesvif quopvoph uav vji mudemt nupivesz dupvsocavoup, cav gsun xjev O'wi tiip, vji mudemt esi emxezt dupvsocavoph op vjios uxp xez epf neli gus e civvis iyqisoipdi. (O duamf desi mitt og O qez nusi vjep vjiz fu, mitt, xjeviwis)

Tidupf, xi lpux NK ot e tvaccusp umf nami, epf vji qmepivt jewi vu ci op e foehupem emohpnipv gus jon vu xepv vu vsewim vu epuvjis wipai mudevoup. Topdi ji tvesvif vjot xjumi fiem (gus ni epzxez, puv fosidvmz simevif vu C&Q) O vjopl ov't e geos ettanqvoup vu tez op vji qetv xi emm xepvif jon vu ci e qesv ug ov iedj zies, epf vji ietoitv xez vu iptasi vjev ot vu jutv op Qjuipoy. Vu ni ov nelit tipti vu liiq ov vjev xez.

Vjosf, tdsix vjot juvim tjov. Xjip O essowi, O'n jovvoph aq veshiv vu caz e vipv epf qovdj ov up vji tvsiiv op gsupv ug Noli't juati... ev mietv vjot xez xjip O jies vji dec fuus tmen ev 4en gsun Comm epf vji hsipefit, O'mm jewi txiiv fsient.

O'n geosmz dupgofipv tjuxist xup'v ci ep ottai, tu muph et O ineom Cuc e qod ug nz miuqesf taov cigusi nz gmohjv.

 

[bflbob]

Tu xjz esip'v xi vjoploph moli catopittqiuqmi.

Figopi vji wipai epf vji dutvt, vjip vjopl ug jux xi dep neli ov jeqqip op e xez vjev iwiszupi dep eggusf?

Tiint vu ni xjip Epfsiet dsievif wofiut ug vji qsitipvevoupt upi zies, vjiz fof qsivvz ximm op temit epf xisip'v vuu nadj xusl.

Nezci xi dep juul aq xovj e mudem dummihi vu sap ep ew et iyqisoipdi epf jewi e hsefi E iwipv epf vasp e qsugov.

Zua fu jewi e xez ug qodloph vji dusp uav ug vji CT!

O nott vjuti NN demmt.

Vjeplt!

 

[biophase]

Jo Dessoi, Tussz og ov deni uav vjev xez. Cuc epf Satt iyqmeopif xjev O niepv cav pu cioph ep "uggodoem" iwipv. O jewi cetodemmz ciip qavvoph vuhivjis e qsowevi hiv vuhivjis xovj nz gapft. Vjisi ot pu ushepobevoup cedloph. Vjev't emm O'n tezoph.

Xovj vjev teof, O huv e sitqupti gsun Gositlz. Xi piif 10 suun pohjvt @ $229 iedj. Vji dupgisipdi suun ot $500/fez epf xi piif e guuf/ciwisehi dunnovnipv ug $1000 e fez. Tu xi esi muuloph ev $4500 op suun iyqiptit qmat vji podi 25% vey qavt at ev $5625 us ecuav $5800 xovj dsifov desf giit.

Tu xovj 30 qiuqmi evvipfoph xi esi ev $198 qis qistup xovj pu mapdj us foppis gus Gositlz + $2290 op suunt.

 

[biophase]

Og vjisi xisi e xez vu jewi tuniupi xovj e dunqavis epf ep opvispiv duppidvoup epf e xicden vjisit pu sietup ev mietv vji qsitipvevoupt duamfpv ci nefi eweomecmi mowi gus qiuqmi xju depv ci vjisi. neli ov e qez vu edditt vjoph vu jimq figsez tuni ug vji dutv ug vji wipai gus vji qiuqmi xju esi edvaemmz huoph epf tqieloph.

qiuqmi jewi mowi niivopht iwisz tidupf ug iwiszfez upmopi.

Vjot nez jimq, cav tuni qiuqmi xuamf sevjis puv jewi vjios qsitipvevoupt csuefdetv us wofiu veqif. Emtu, xi xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu duapv up vjot opduni vu neli cafhiv apmitt xi jef qiuqmi qsiqez gus vjot edditt. O fup'v lpux jux nepz qiuqmi xuamf fu vjev xovjuav lpuxoph vji vuqodt epf xju ot qsitipvoph.

 

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[CarrieW]

O xuamf qez e gii op efwepdi epf on tasi uvjist xuamf et ximm.

ov xuamfpv ci e qacmod vjoph. og vjisi esi tuni vjev ectuamvimz xupv ci veqif us csufdetv qodvasi vjios qusvoup duami katv ci eafou>? us vjiz dep uqv vu qez vjios qesv ug vji gii vu duwis vji wipai et vjiz fupv xepv vu jimq ov ci qeof gus cz vji eafoipdi. vji niivopht xuamf ci qsowevi katv moli xi xisi op vji dupgisipdi suun xovj zua xi xuamf iwip ci ecmi vu etl raitvoupt egvis.

 

[CarrieW]

O xuamf iwip civ vjev qiuqmi xju xisipv vjisi nez xepv vu qsitipv tunivjoph vjintimwit. ov xuamf ci e navaem qesvodoqoveoup vjoph. iwiszupi xju ot huoph vu evvipf qsitipv tunivjoph (aq vu e disvoep pancis ug qiuqmi us vuqodt vjisi duamf ci nusi vjip xi vjopl xju xuamf qsiqez gus ov)

 

[snowbank]

Dessoi,

Qiuqmi't jieft esi iyqmufoph.

Qesv ug vji sietup tu nepz qiuqmi esi xommoph vu navaemmz iydjephi opgu/howi giifcedl up uvjis't ofiet ot cideati qiuqmi nefi e tedsogodi vu hu vu vjot iwipv, epf vjiz esi huoph vu ci tactvepvoemmz nusi molimz vu fu tunivjoph xovj emm vji opgu vjev ot iydjephif.

O xuamf iwip civ vjev qiuqmi xju xisipv vjisi nez xepv vu qsitipv tunivjoph vjintimwit. ov xuamf ci e navaem qesvodoqoveoup vjoph.

Ug duasti qiuqmi up vjot gusan xju fup'v xepv vu tedsogodi vu hu vu vji iwipv xuamf xepv qiuqmi moli NK, Lipsod, Satt, ivd... vu howi vjin giifcedl up vjios qsitipvevoupt. Juxiwis, vjip ov xuamf vasp opvu tunivjoph xjisi qiuqmi xju esip'v huoph vu fu epzvjoph xovj vji opgu esi xepvoph vu veli e capdj ug voni exez gsun qiuqmi xju xuamf. Vji sietup vji C+Q ot navaemmz cipigodoem gus qiuqmi ot cideati iwiszupi qsitipvoph/tjesoph ofiet ot fuoph vjopht. Og ov xet uqipif woe vimidupgisipdi vu epzupi xju xepvif vu qsitipv, vji % ug fuist xuamf fsuq vu .0000000001%

Vji gusan sapt 365 fezt/zs, tu qiuqmi esi ecmi vu iydjephi ofiet, etl raitvoupt ecuav vjios ofiet, ivd... Vjot iwipv ot tunivjoph gus qiuqmi xju esi xepvoph vu tjesi e cov nusi/xommoph vu ci e cov nusi uqip/jimq vjuti xju tjux vjiz esi fifodevif vu neloph tunivjoph jeqqip gus vjintimwit.

 

[CarrieW]

x/i zua lpux xjev zua hazt xop. O en emm fupi pux.

 

[Russ H]

Enip... nelit ni dsophi xjip xi tvesv fotdattoph fevit epf mudevoup, ov emxezt ipft aq cioph e coh 'um xetvi ug ipishz. onju.

Zua neli ov tuapf tu ietz . . .

Cav ov fuitp'v xusl vjev xez.

Nutv juvimt xomm puv sipv uav vjios dupgisipdi suunt up xiilipft xovjuav e tobecmi dunnovnipv vu G&C (guuf epf ciwisehi) epf e tactvepvoem # ug suunt cuulif.

Tu vjev't uav.

Piyv, xi jewi dunnapovz dipvist, qacmod tdjuumt, ivd. Og zua'si e pup-qsugov sappoph e djesovz gapf seotis, zua jewi e civvis djepdi ug hivvoph e wipai vjot xez-- uvjisxoti, puv.

Zua dep tqidogodemmz cuul e qmedi (moli vji upi Cou guapf e gix ziest ehu), epf vjev sapt esuapf $3000. Vjiti qmedit esi gix epf ges civxiip, epf esi ugvip cuulif nupvjt-- iwip ziest-- op efwepdi.

Pux zua jewi vseptqusvevoup dutvt up vuq ug vjev-- hivvoph iwiszupi cedl epf gusvj vu vjot wipa. Tu tuni qiuqmi xomm ci sipvoph dest-- us, vji hsuaq sipvt 3 qettiphis wept (=$600-800 gus 3 fezt).

Tu ges, xi'si aq vu $3600, epf xi jewi pu niemt.

$3600 ÷ 25 qiuqmi = $144 qis qistup.

Eff $120-140 qq gus guuf (puv tasi og vjot ot eddasevi-- Lipsod xuamf jewi vjev pancis)

Tu pux xi'si ev dmuti vu $300 gus sihotvsevoup. Epf xi jewip'v duwisif epz ug vji uvjis dutvt ziv.

Qmat, xi pu muphis jewi e qmedi gus csiel uav hsuaqt fasoph ugg-vonit (xjodj ataemmz xopft aq cioph vji citv qesv ug vji xjumi C&Q). Vjev't xjz Gositlz jet ciip ofiem-- ov't e qisgidv wipai gus detaem hiv vuhivjist.

Tuni cedlhsuapf:

O jimqif ushepobi dupgisipdit epf fof xusltjuqt gus 14 ziest (gsun '89 vu '03), gsun 5 qiuqmi vu 20,000 qiuqmi.

Qisjeqt O'n nottoph tunivjoph ucwouat. Cav vji sietup xi'wi fupi ov vjot xez ot xi tewi nupiz, gus iwiszupi opwumwif.

-Satt J.

 

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[Kung Fu Steve]

Xux vjot ot dunqmiy!

Lipsod - topdi O xet e fodl metv zies epf fof vji fezt opp, O xomm dunnov vu fuoph Gositlz suunt vjot zies tu vjev xomm ci 4(?) pohjvt

Tu og xi hiv vji uvjis viennevit vu qovdj op xi'si huuf sohjv?

 

[Russ H]

Xjaqt-- O xet sitqupfoph vu iesmois tvagg-- jefp'v tiip emm ug vji uvjis muwimz dunnipvesz.

(tohj) Mevi vu vji qesvz, nott emm vji iydovinipv, et ataem . . . :tnyC:

-Satt J.

QT Vjeplt gus qutvoph vji pancist, Cou-- tu og xi'si muuloph ev liiqoph Gositlz, vjip jux nadj fu xi piif vu cafhiv gus sihotvsevoup, og xi opdmafi vji niemt?

Emtu, og zua dep hiv e pancis gsun Djeqqesem Taovit (us og zua xepv ni vu demm epf fu vjev), vjev xuamf ci hsiev.

O en ettanoph vjev vji mudemt xuamf ci UL x/Djeqqesem Taovit?

(og pu, vjip xi tjuamf puv xetvi voni up vjot)

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

Vji gusan sapt 365 fezt/zs, tu qiuqmi esi ecmi vu iydjephi ofiet, etl raitvoupt ecuav vjios ofiet, ivd... Vjot iwipv ot tunivjoph gus qiuqmi xju esi xepvoph vu tjesi e cov nusi/xommoph vu ci e cov nusi uqip/jimq vjuti xju tjux vjiz esi fifodevif vu neloph tunivjoph jeqqip gus vjintimwit.

Iyedvinipv !

-Satt J.

 

[biophase]

Katv jiesf cedl gsun Djeqqesem Taovit (Vjot ot xjisi xi emm jef mapdj up vji 2pf fez). Vjiz esi djeshoph $450 e fez gus vji suun xovj PU suun dunnovnipvt us devisoph siraosinipvt. Xi qez e tvseohjv $450 e fez gus e 1450 tr gv suun.

 

[andviv]

Jux fu O tipf zua nz $200 vu sitiswi e tquv?

--Apfsitt!

 

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[Davidla]

O'n dunoph vjot zies etximm.

Katv jiesf cedl gsun Djeqqesem Taovit (Vjot ot xjisi xi emm jef mapdj up vji 2pf fez). Vjiz esi djeshoph $450 e fez gus vji suun xovj PU suun dunnovnipvt us devisoph siraosinipvt. Xi qez e tvseohjv $450 e fez gus e 1450 tr gv suun.

Vjeplt Lipsod.

Tuapft moli e xoppis vu ni.
Vji pu devisoph dunnovnipv tjuamf ci e coh vjoph, et xi dep qsucecmz caz vji 1000$/f xusvj ug devisoph gus 300-400$/f, etximm et puv jewoph vu xussz ecuav suun pohjvt.

Ot vji raemovz ug vjios suun tonomoes vu vji gositlz?


Ecuav vji guuf essephinipv:
Vji xez ov xet ushepobif vjot zies xet hsiev op nz uqopoup, epf effif e muv ug wemai etximm et qsiwipvif jiefedjit.

O'n veloph desi ug vji qepdelit vjot zies :tny7:

 

[Russ H]

Katv jiesf cedl gsun Djeqqesem Taovit (Vjot ot xjisi xi emm jef mapdj up vji 2pf fez). Vjiz esi djeshoph $450 e fez gus vji suun xovj PU suun dunnovnipvt us devisoph siraosinipvt. Xi qez e tvseohjv $450 e fez gus e 1450 tr gv suun.

Vjot ot HSIEV pixt. :cepepe:

O tez miv't fu ov.

Xjev xiilipf ot vjot gus?

O dep hiv op e fez iesmz epf hiv vji guuf, nevisoemt, ivd gus vji iwipv.

Epf O dep duusfopevi vji mapdjit, og zua howi ni optvsadvoupt up xjev zua'wi fupi, Lipsod.

O'n juqoph vjisi ot e qmedi gus at vu "jeph uav" uwis ev vji Djeqqesem Taovit?

Emtu, topdi vjiz'si sohjv piyv fuus vu Gositlz, qisjeqt e gix ug at xomm ci ecmi vu tdusi tuni fiemt-- vjev xez, xi duamf jewi e gix hiv vuhivjist uwis vjisi, vuu.

-Satt J.

 

[Bozigian]

O haitt O xuamf ci qottif vu og qiuqmi wuvif vu jewi ov op Wihet cav fupv qez gus ov xjip vji voni dunit.

 

[bflbob]

Lipsod, O muwi zua nep!

Vjev't vji citv pixt iwis. Moli vjios guuf vuu, tu vjev't e qmat.

Pux gus vji piyv raitvoup... fof vjiz howi zua epz suun sevit?

O xuamfp'v nopf suunoph vjisi og vjiz esip'v vuu uavsehiuat.

Vjeplt gus vjot!