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A Bio-Hacking Discussion: Cold Showers, Nicotine, Cryo, Float Tanks...

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MODERATOR NOTE: Use this thread to discuss bio-hacking techniques, a proactive approach to improve performance.NOTHING IN THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL ADVICE, BY MYSELF, THE POST CONTRIBUTOR, OR MY COMPANY. THIS SIMPLY IS A DISCUSSION ON STRATEGIES OR TACTICS THAT YOU HAVE FOUND HELPFUL, OR NOT HELPFUL.

This thread is starting to get pretty good, so I here is a quick summary of the themes mentioned so far for your convenience:
-Cold shower + Sauna
-Breath exercise, for example the Wim Hof method.
- wearable tech. Ive seen great things about whoop strap, oura ring, fitbit
-take the right version of supplements. See post #5
-use a standing desk
-get 30 min real sunlight
-fasting is great. I believe around 3 days is enough to empty your liver.
-float tank
-nicotine
-meditation


Original post below:

Just wanted to share a really simple and absolutely terrible, yet immensely effective practice.

Cold showers really do work, but you have to go all the way, so your muscles and vessels constrict, pushing your blood and lymphatic fluid out of their positions. As i understand, it also shocks your mitochondria (your cells' energy pretty much), and increases their effectiveness. If you want the details, there is tons of research on exactly what happens around the internet.
If its too intense for you (it was for me), you can try targeting one bodypart at a time. I found just cooling my leg, then the next, and so on, was more manageable, and then work your way into the real deal.

If you have any kind of inflammation, fatigue, or brainfog, I highly recommend giving it a try for a few days. Even if you just flash cold/hot/cold/hot for a few seconds, it does help a lot.

What other simple health tricks do you do?
 
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Interesting that you posted that thread.
When i turn down the temperature I immediately change my breathing pattern similar to the Wim Hof method.
 

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I recently ordered one of these (LINKED BELOW) because the quality of my sleep is poor. I've tried various strategies thus far with no real improvement. They offer a 60 day guarantee so I figured it was worth the risk.


Also, once or twice during the week slap a nicotine patch to my arm to increase focus. This has been recommended by several neurologists. It seems to work for me when I do it as I seems to help me be more productive. However, I limit this tactic to once or twice per week as (obviously) I don't want to get addicted to nicotine, although I haven't noticed any type of addictive response to it. It also seems to curb appetite.
 
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Let me save you months or even years of taking wrong version of supplements:

When taking b12 vitamin, instead of Cyanocobalamin, search for Methylocobalamin one, from 1000mcg to 5000mcg. Take it with 1000mg of vitamin C, but search for the one with pure ascorbic acid, you can even get as a powder.
Vitamin D over 5000iu should be taken with K2 (MK7 version) and preferably with fish oil (The best one I've been able to find was "Carlson - The very finest fish oil"). Don't take Calcium with vitamin D, or you will feel stones forming in your kidney.
Zinc can be taken in various forms, but the most digestible one is Picolinate, which should be taken on empty stomach, at least 15 minutes before meal.
Magnesium should be Bisglycinate, for digestibility, and start slow quarter of suggested daily does to avoid heavy nightmares.

But, no vitamin or supplement can heal having an unfulfilled life, so go out there and make shit happen. Overcoming fears, achieving goals and conquering internal demons will give you everything your heart desires.

P.s. still take Magnesium, that one is good!
 

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Otherwise from cold showers and various supplements, one thing I discovered lately are hot showers and baths. They seem to assist and heal symptoms like ADHD.
When you target hot water on the head, the brain activates heat-shock proteins, which simulate a state of fever.
Fever can be actually good for the brain as it goes in repair mode.
This seems to have increased my focus, also a hot relaxing bath can be very good to put out the stress
 

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When taking b12 vitamin, instead of Cyanocobalamin, search for Methylocobalamin one, from 1000mcg to 5000mcg.

I can attest to this. Cyano is cheap and is terrible for people who are afflicted with MTHFR gene mutation. Always pick the supplement with methyl-b12 ... I've refuse to buy stuff with cyano-B12: VALUE SKEW!!
 
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Otherwise from cold showers and various supplements, one thing I discovered lately are hot showers and baths. They seem to assist and heal symptoms like ADHD.
When you target hot water on the head, the brain activates heat-shock proteins, which simulate a state of fever.
Fever can be actually good for the brain as it goes in repair mode.
This seems to have increased my focus, also a hot relaxing bath can be very good to put out the stress
Jumping from a sauna into a cold shower/pool... Ohhh baby!
 

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Let me save you months or even years of taking wrong version of supplements:

When taking b12 vitamin, instead of Cyanocobalamin, search for Methylocobalamin one, from 1000mcg to 5000mcg. Take it with 1000mg of vitamin C, but search for the one with pure ascorbic acid, you can even get as a powder.
Vitamin D over 5000iu should be taken with K2 (MK7 version) and preferably with fish oil (The best one I've been able to find was "Carlson - The very finest fish oil"). Don't take Calcium with vitamin D, or you will feel stones forming in your kidney.
Zinc can be taken in various forms, but the most digestible one is Picolinate, which should be taken on empty stomach, at least 15 minutes before meal.
Magnesium should be Bisglycinate, for digestibility, and start slow quarter of suggested daily does to avoid heavy nightmares.

But, no vitamin or supplement can heal having an unfulfilled life, so go out there and make shit happen. Overcoming fears, achieving goals and conquering internal demons will give you everything your heart desires.

P.s. still take Magnesium, that one is good!

That's pretty much it brother. Amazing summary of the most important things. 80/20 right there. (Magnesium is king)

The best 2 "biohacks" that I've implemented lately are:

1) Setting a environment where I can work standing 50% of the time. This is being HUGE for my productivity, mobility and overall health.

2) Making sure I get minimum 30 min of real sun everyday. No vitamin D can replace the full spectrum effects of the sunlight. This has been HUGE for my mood, energy levels, and sleep quality.

It's also great to do prolonged fasts somewhat often. That way you get a deep cleanse in your syste and go into full repair/recovery mode.

It may not be the best for muscle gainZ but It's a great practice for longevity and health. I like doing 48h fasts every quarter or so.

One thing that I'm still excited to try is the float tank! I've read great things about it but unfortunately we don't have easy access here in Brazil.

Anyone here with cool experiences on the float tank to share?
 

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Anyone here with cool experiences on the float tank to share?
I remember there was this thread from a while back.
 
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I recently ordered one of these (LINKED BELOW) because the quality of my sleep is poor. I've tried various strategies thus far with no real improvement. They offer a 60 day guarantee so I figured it was worth the risk.


Also, once or twice during the week slap a nicotine patch to my arm to increase focus. This has been recommended by several neurologists. It seems to work for me when I do it as I seems to help me be more productive. However, I limit this tactic to once or twice per week as (obviously) I don't want to get addicted to nicotine, although I haven't noticed any type of addictive response to it. It also seems to curb appetite.
Do you ever get nauseated from the nicotine? I've tried this in the past with that result.
 

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Jumping from a sauna into a cold shower/pool... Ohhh baby!
I love the sauna. I find that the sauna has much more of a relaxing effect following a session than the cold showers.
 

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I recently ordered one of these (LINKED BELOW) because the quality of my sleep is poor. I've tried various strategies thus far with no real improvement. They offer a 60 day guarantee so I figured it was worth the risk.


Also, once or twice during the week slap a nicotine patch to my arm to increase focus. This has been recommended by several neurologists. It seems to work for me when I do it as I seems to help me be more productive. However, I limit this tactic to once or twice per week as (obviously) I don't want to get addicted to nicotine, although I haven't noticed any type of addictive response to it. It also seems to curb appetite.

I like nicotine pills and I still take them, but because I'd wager that someone here will start taking nicotine and overdo it, I'll mention that nicotine can be fatal. Though, 50 mg is 13-25 pills depending on the dose that you're taking.

One of the best pieces of advice that I was ever given was "if you're going to take drugs, make sure you know what they do." Read the labels guys.

"According to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, the lethal dose of inhaled nicotine is 50 to 60 mg/kg in a 70-kg adult (154 pounds)."


Nicotine does curb your appetite. It also makes listening to music more enjoyable.
 
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I remember there was this thread from a while back.

Thanks mate!
 

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Do you ever get nauseated from the nicotine? I've tried this in the past with that result.

I did once, but it was very subtle.

Though, 50 mg is 13-25 pills depending on the dose that you're taking.

I don't take pills, I use the patches, a 7mg one to be specific, the 7mg is time released, and I only keep it on several hours. But yes, anything taken in high doses, or inappropriately probably can be dangerous, or worse, fatal.
 

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I did once, but it was very subtle.



I don't take pills, I use the patches, a 4mg one to be specific, the 4mg is time released, and I only keep it on several hours. But yes, anything taken in high doses, or inappropriately probably can be dangerous, or worse, fatal.
I may have dosed a bit too high when I tried it. I can't recall what it was but definitely higher than 4mg on time release. I'll try a lesser dose next time and see what happens.

Thank you!
 
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I like nicotine pills and I still take them, but because I'd wager that someone here will start taking nicotine and overdo it, I'll mention that nicotine can be fatal. Though, 50 mg is 13-25 pills depending on the dose that you're taking.

One of the best pieces of advice that I was ever given was "if you're going to take drugs, make sure you know what they do." Read the labels guys.

"According to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, the lethal dose of inhaled nicotine is 50 to 60 mg/kg in a 70-kg adult (154 pounds)."


Nicotine does curb your appetite. It also makes listening to music more enjoyable.
That would be an insane amount of nicotine lol.
 

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Correction, it is 7mg I use.
 

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I recently ordered one of these (LINKED BELOW) because the quality of my sleep is poor. I've tried various strategies thus far with no real improvement. They offer a 60 day guarantee so I figured it was worth the risk.



These people should be ashamed of themselves. I will be returning this piece of junk unless something changes in the next week. Wish I could say if it was effective or not, but the product and its app is a complete piece of crap. In fact, this device is supposed to alleviate stress when in fact, it has created more stress in my life because it never works, it never stays connected, and the device always needs to be reset to factory settings in order for it to work. This product should never have been released to the public and at best, is a beta-product, but even that is a stretch.
 
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Meditation really is effective. Not hours of it, just 10 minutes a day is plenty. It changes the the frequency of the electric current inside your brain, literally. My second one is keystone habits, from the book The Power of Habit, which are also scientifically validated. I haven't tried cold showers long enough to notice any benefit apart from the adrenaline rush that lasts maybe an hour. I do have a friend that swears by them.
 

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Meditation really is effective. Not hours of it, just 10 minutes a day is plenty. It changes the the frequency of the electric current inside your brain, literally. My second one is keystone habits, from the book The Power of Habit, which are also scientifically validated. I haven't tried cold showers long enough to notice any benefit apart from the adrenaline rush that lasts maybe an hour. I do have a friend that swears by them.
I tried meditating, but it felt like a chore, and I didn't feel any benefit. What's the trick?
 

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These people should be ashamed of themselves. I will be returning this piece of junk unless something changes in the next week. Wish I could say if it was effective or not, but the product and its app is a complete piece of crap. In fact, this device is supposed to alleviate stress when in fact, it has created more stress in my life because it never works, it never stays connected, and the device always needs to be reset to factory settings in order for it to work. This product should never have been released to the public and at best, is a beta-product, but even that is a stretch.

Here's my review...

Imagine buying an expensive product designed to REDUCE stress levels in your life, and the exact opposite happens because the product never works and the app is quite possibly the most worthless piece of technology ever developed. Does the actual product work? I have no idea because every time I tried to use it, it would fail connection, or I would have to press the "Play" button 6 times to get it to work. And subsequently after each charge, the device needed to be factory reset.

After 2 weeks of use, this product dramatically increased my stress levels because the app interface was a complete joke and never worked without constant fiddling and patience. Let's see... the buttons have to be pressed half-dozen times for the device to respond, it drops connection ever 8 seconds, the scheduler never works, the device never connects after a new charge and needs to be "factory reset" every single time. By far, this is the worst product (or app) I have ever encountered in my life, so I have no idea it if the "Device" actually works. But I do know this: I have never been more frustrated in trying to get this piece of crap to work without me granting it significant mental bandwidth. Stress level before device? 6. Stress level after? 8.

This product doesn't even meet up to the standards of a BETA-product, and they are trying to pass it off as ALPHA or at production value. And telling people they can reduce stress by having to deal with the non-stop failure of this product is laughable.

The folks at Apollo should be ashamed of themselves.

And guess what? They have failed to post it, unless it is sitting in a queue. That might explain all the "great reviews!" as they gatekeep the negative ones. Waiting for my RMA for refund.
 
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I can attest to this. Cyano is cheap and is terrible for people who are afflicted with MTHFR gene mutation. Always pick the supplement with methyl-b12 ... I've refuse to buy stuff with cyano-B12: VALUE SKEW!!
+++1. I have several MTHFR mutations, but that was only part of my problem. About 5-6 years ago I realized a bunch of problems I had were almost certainly caused by mercury toxicity. By accident I found that **LARGE** doses of methyl B12 tamed the night-terrors and screaming-meemies agitation that had been destroying my sleep for several years. And I mean **LARGE** doses. The RDA is 2.4 MICROgrams per day, and usually very little of that is absorbed. I experimented with several delivery mechanisms (pills, creams, injections, inhaled, etc) and finally found a topical oil product. It was claimed to deliver nearly 100% absorption, and it worked far better than anything I'd tried. Even so, I was using 5 to 7 MILLIgrams per day -- 2000-3000 TIMES the RDA. Fortunately there really is no toxic level of B12, and apparently I needed it. If I tried to reduce the dose, I started crawling out of my skin, and spent 2am-5am every night in a semi-awake nightmare state, thrashing around in bed like I was having a grand mal seizure. Eventually I had all my mercury fillings removed (VERY carefully, hazmat protocols) and replaced with non-toxic fillings, and *poof*! Overnight the problems vanished. I didn't need to use a bit of B12 for the next 4 years. Then I detoxed the mercury left in my body and those problems are 99.9% gone.

MJ, you're having trouble sleeping? I had something that gave me the best sleep I've had in years. I've got cancer, and there is a lot of well-supported research that says THC kills cancer cells. Since there's almost no decent medical research with cannabis (in the US), there are "word of mouth" protocols to treat cancer with THC. So since I was doing every thing I could find to fight the damn cancer, I jumped right in. A typical recreational dose of THC is about 10-20mg, similar to a pint or two of microbrew. Well I was doing ****700mg**** per day, for months. I used an "alternate" delivery method (suppositories) that means you don't get nearly as whacked by it, but I was still half-stoned for about 9 months. I think I lost 30-40 IQ points the whole time I was on it, but boy howdy did I sleep well!!! :hilarious:
 

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I personally don't like coffee/ caffeine, i found out that the sun is in the morning like a little boost so that you can "awake" faster. Just step outside for a few minutes and it should help.

I do it regular when i slept not really long so that I can overcome this "morning sickness"

A great source for biohacking / body related things is that guy here, he puts everything out for free and there is for most fields something interesting.
 

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I tried meditating, but it felt like a chore, and I didn't feel any benefit. What's the trick?
It's tricky, you need to be able to accept to be alone with yourself, deeply. First it forces you to tolerate boredom. Then you start becoming a lot more aware of your consciousness. You can passively analyze your thoughts as they come and go without caring about them. It's like watching birds inside a park when you're sitting on a bench, except that the birds are your thoughts and emotions. It's weird but it's amazing. It also allows you to induce a state of flow. Controlling your state of flow is like a super-power.

The initial hurdle of having to tolerate the boredom and the anxiety this boredom creates can be painful but it doesn't last forever. When I dedicated myself to it seriously a couples of years back, I could spend something like two weeks in a row in flow without interruption. All it took was 10 minutes in the morning and small mindfulness sessions throughout the day (like 2mins each tops) which you can do at moments where you would be taking a break anyway, like going to the bathroom, the shower, etc.

I would say don't use an app
 
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MJ, you're having trouble sleeping? I had something that gave me the best sleep I've had in years. I've got cancer, and there is a lot of well-supported research that says THC kills cancer cells. Since there's almost no decent medical research with cannabis (in the US), there are "word of mouth" protocols to treat cancer with THC.

Weed hasn't helped, but thanks for the suggestion! BTW, I have no trouble falling asleep, but according to my Fitbit, I get very little deep sleep, and below normal REM.
 

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Weed hasn't helped, but thanks for the suggestion! BTW, I have no trouble falling asleep, but according to my Fitbit, I get very little deep sleep, and below normal REM.
Off the topic suggestion. You can try doing lucid dreaming then; they strike the best in shallow sleep.
 

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I recently ordered one of these (LINKED BELOW) because the quality of my sleep is poor. I've tried various strategies thus far with no real improvement. They offer a 60 day guarantee so I figured it was worth the risk.


Also, once or twice during the week slap a nicotine patch to my arm to increase focus. This has been recommended by several neurologists. It seems to work for me when I do it as I seems to help me be more productive. However, I limit this tactic to once or twice per week as (obviously) I don't want to get addicted to nicotine, although I haven't noticed any type of addictive response to it. It also seems to curb appetite.

Sounds like you've tried everything for your sleep but just in case... I've pasted my accumulated sleep notes below, this is the TLDR of many hours of rigorous sleep research/reading and practice.

p.s. dont stress TOO much about your Fitbit readings... even the best tech out there right now is at best around 70% accurate, if you feel good, don't sweat the stats.


Sleep notes:

Last calorie at least 3 hours before bedtime.

Off screens 1-2 hours before bed.

Sleep and wake same time everyday (consistent bedtime routine & schedule)

If you need extra sleep go to bed earlier dont wake up later (keep wake up time consistent at all costs)

A sub 30 min nap around 2-3pm is an incredible ‘recharge’. Be careful not to exceed 30 mins as body will go into deeper sleep and wake up groggy - I like 27 mins. Don’t worry about falling asleep right away. Laying down and letting your mind wander for this time still has significant restorative effects.

Sleep in cycles of 90 mins (and add how long it usually takes you to fall asleep) e.g. 7:30hrs, 9:00hrs
(sleepti.me - to calculate this) (Sleep Cycle app also useful)

Last caffeinated beverage at 1pm (a quarter dose of caffeine is still in your system after 12 hours. (Eg 2 coffees in the morning is the equivalent to drinking half a cup of coffee right before bed. (I sleep 10x better with no caffeine even when only having 1x coffee @ 8am.)

sleep with black out (cover LEDS w/ black tape)

sleep with ear plugs (no noise) or white noise machine can mimic silence too (makes it so your brain doesn’t notice sudden noises during the night)

60-65 degrees F (16-18 C) sleep temp is optimal:

Fresh air is good if possible (crack a window).

As soon as possible after you wake get into sunlight to set circadian rhythm 2-10 mins is fine.

Use warm light (nightshift on phone) and fl.ux on your laptop.

Avoid bright white lights/LEDs after sunset.

Only use bed for sleep and sex.

Weed and alcohol in any amounts (yes, even one glass of dry red). WILL inhibit REM and deep stages significantly.
 
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Have you tried taping your mouth closed when you sleep Mj? Just a small square of surgical tape to keep it closed.

Maybe you have a little bit of sleep apnea, this could fix it. Plus it’s just really good for you. Breathe by James Nestor goes into a lot more detail.

Also is your room 100% dark? This has a huge impact on sleep.

Here’s Andrew Hubermans sleep supplement recommendation if you want to try this as well. It’s from a Joe Rogan podcast if you are interested in hearing him talk more about how and why he chooses them, and not melatonin.

“That cocktail of 50 mg of apigenin, 300–400 mg of magnesium threonate or bisglycinate, and 200–400 mg of theanine, for me, has been the best way to consistently fall asleep quickly and stay asleep most if not the entire night, which, for me, is about 7–8 hours.”
 
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Meditation really is effective. Not hours of it, just 10 minutes a day is plenty. It changes the the frequency of the electric current inside your brain, literally. My second one is keystone habits, from the book The Power of Habit, which are also scientifically validated. I haven't tried cold showers long enough to notice any benefit apart from the adrenaline rush that lasts maybe an hour. I do have a friend that swears by them.
What type of meditation you can recommend? I use guided mindfulness meditation and think it’s better than eg visualization meditation for clearer mind and well being. Affirmations work well for me too. and yeah 10min is more than enough if you have a good meditation track, unfortunately i constantly need to look for new tracks because used ones don’t work as good as at the first time for me
 

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