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The "Astonishing Secrets" Thread

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I want the Ice cream
@masaldana2 My friend, take a seat and we'll learn you how to get the ice cream.

BTW, I have some rental properties out in your neck of the woods. Right next to a military base.
 

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What copy books do you read?
 

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Ryany, that was an epic post. Reading the second post about "loving the hell out of people" really hit me hard... I haven't thought about it much until now, but it makes so much sense I feel like I've only just begun learning what entrepreneurship truly is...

Thank you so much for sharing this "secret"... :)
 

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Great post.

would love to shake your hand some day!

Z
I must say it's quite humbling to hear one of my heroes say such kind words to me.

@zen******* I’m taking your advice and sharing the ice cream…it has been more rewarding than I ever thought it could be. I was on the local radio station this morning in an interview because one of the guys I helped out was able to hook me up with a short time slot. I was scared shitless because I've never done that before. Business is growing and I'm super swamped with orders, but I wanted to take some time to write a heartfelt message to you.

Is it alright with you if I tell you one of my dreams? This may sound crazy to a lot of people, but I know you treat others with loving acceptance. That's the Zen way.

I have a dream to re-wire the mindset of people everywhere so that they can one day unleash the giant inside of them in order achieve the wealth of a millionaire and the heart of a monk. I want to create a legion of drunken maverick entrepreneurs, hungry for ice cream so that they can give back to the people. Perhaps you can call us Club Robin Hood...or The Ice Cream Men.

Wouldn’t it be great if I could one day be in the position to give away 90% of my income each year and still live a fabulous life of freedom using the leftover 10%? I must scale further to get there. I don’t need much to be free…I’m actually quite happy with my 2001 Nissan Maxima, my Levi’s jeans, and my sweatshirt. I used to go for fancy women whose looks promise heaven but deliver hell…I finally grew out of that.

I am teaching my offline friends the Zen way of the Dolphin and by golly it’s actually working! Some of them are still learning to build their own ice cream shops while one is actually surpassing my progress, he is in the mid 5-figures per month now. A few seem to not like the taste of ice cream at all and are more comfortable with the 9-5, that’s fine too! It’s about what makes you happy in life. There are many ways to dress your mistress and we all walk a unique path to get there.

During the day our ultimate mission is to rebuild communities, give back to charity, and revitalize schools. Our message is to deliver love and happiness by giving the people what they want.

At night, we get drunk off $3 wine from Trader Joe’s while singing jolly good songs together. We’re a quirky, high energy bunch of wackos in our 20's with a focus on action and moving forward. We believe that entrepreneurship can and should be fun. Although we have crazy fun doing what we do, we always hold on true to the magical secret to amass millions: Give the people what they want.


Thank you for teaching us to give the people what they want instead of focusing on what we want for ourselves. Serious MIND SHIFT right there.

It all started with writing copy...
 
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You are living out my biggest dream/goal. The ability to teach others how to get their own ice cream.

Thank you. I am watching. Learning. I will get there.

Keep this thread going, you have my support.
 

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I am watching. Learning.

I could still be watching...waiting for that day...the day that might never come. The bulk of my knowledge came while I was taking action after I got sick of my life.

Don't wait for that perfect moment. Take a moment and make that shit perfect.

Oh guess what it's Aloha Friday! We're setting up disco balls in the ice cream shop so put on your dancing shoes, let's take action and dance!

Stay drunk, my friends.

p.s. I'm curious. How's everybody doing? What are you guys struggling with? What are your biggest concerns? Relationship issues? Self-esteem issues? Having trouble finding an idea to get you some ice cream? What's up?

In the ice cream shop we address mental issues immediately because the longer you sit on them, the more difficult they become to deal with.
 
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Struggling to find the missing ingrediant in the ice cream.

I'm 99% there.
 
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I could still be watching...waiting for that day...the day that might never come. The bulk of my knowledge came while I was taking action after I got sick of my life.

Don't wait for that perfect moment. Take a moment and make that shit perfect.

Oh guess what it's Aloha Friday! We're setting up disco balls in the ice cream shop so put on your dancing shoes, let's take action and dance!

Stay drunk, my friends.

p.s. I'm curious. How's everybody doing? What are you guys struggling with? What are your biggest concerns? Relationship issues? Self-esteem issues? Having trouble finding an idea to get you some ice cream? What's up?

In the ice cream shop we address mental issues immediately because the longer you sit on them, the more difficult they become to deal with.

You sir have a gift, a way with words for sure. Thanks for starting this thread and to zen******* for being an inspiration and mentor to many of us here.

Despite my several health issues which I'm doing my best to address, I'm guilty of that first line. I'm reading through James Altucher's "Choose Yourself" right now and my idea muscle is weak. I'm by no means a money chaser, I'm constantly on the hunt looking for what I can improve on and what I can do for others- and yet it eludes me. The thing that you are trying to unlock within us is what I seek. The deeper meaning, the ability to read between the lines. Forget the ice cream even, I dream of honing my vision.



Once again, thanks to the both of you and all the contributors here. Time to become an INSIDERS once I finish James' book :)
 

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Struggling to find the missing ingrediant in the ice cream.

I'm 99% there.

I can't give an answer tailored to your situation because you haven't described your situation in detail, but I will say that the missing ingredient for me was the way in which I was marketing. Once I figured out how to correctly market my business and the value that I was providing to the customer, the pool in my backyard was no longer filled with water...it was filled with ice cream.

A lot of people start out with a product focus. How about starting with a marketing focus?

The Snuggie was once a failed product...then they decided to change how they marketed it and BOOM. 20 million units sold.
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Are you having trouble marketing? Have you studied copy yet?
 
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Despite my several health issues which I'm doing my best to address, I'm guilty of that first line. I'm reading through James Altucher's "Choose Yourself" right now and my idea muscle is weak. I'm by no means a money chaser, I'm constantly on the hunt looking for what I can improve on and what I can do for others- and yet it eludes me. The thing that you are trying to unlock within us is what I seek. The deeper meaning, the ability to read between the lines. Forget the ice cream even, I dream of honing my vision.

Dude, are you alright? I'm really sorry to hear about your health issues. It's hard to stay on top of your game when you're not feeling like a 10 physically...it impacts everything else.

Weightlifting actually played a huge role in my business progress, but that's a story for another day. In the real world, I actually don't eat any snacks because they spike your insulin which cause you to feel tired and lethargic.

I read James Altucher's book too. I actually took huge issue with how he says you should come up with ideas. Walking around with a notepad and just noting down whatever comes to mind...meh, that didn't work for me. I really like his writing style though.

What worked for me was getting out there and talking to people. Pick up the phone. Face to face. Belly to belly.

Please read my 2nd post again. The one about loving the hell out of others. Make yourself truly present to others and get them to feel that you truly understand where they're coming from. They will tell you their greatest fears, hopes, and dreams...There lies the key that unlocks pandora's box. They will tell you their needs, pains, and struggles once they trust you and feel you understand them. You will become a better friend, lover, and businessperson. You cannot be selfish because this will blind you.

Shoot...didn't @MJ DeMarco 's million dollar idea come to him while he was just driving a passenger around in his limo?! MJ made himself present and truly listened to the guy! He didn't let his brain wander off thinking about the latest episode of The Bachelorette.

You don't need to come up with ideas. Make yourself present to others and the ideas will come to you. Don't push for ideas. Pull for them. How do you become present to others? Love them. Truly.

I'm telling you, there's a crazy spiritual side to business. That's what I'm trying to explain.

I truly wish you the best of health though. That's #1. Take care of yourself. Forget the ice cream, that leads to diabetes.

Gym. Tan. Laundry.
 
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You don't need to come up with ideas. Make yourself present to others and the ideas will come to you. Don't push for ideas. Pull for them. How do you become present to others? Love them. Truly.

Wow man that's profound. It sounds like being in a state of intense observation. My ideas are "my ideas", but an idea from a source outside yourself should be cherished even more because their observation comes from a purer place than yours?

For example I could be thinking about "this idea will win big" "I can sell tons of these!", but what you observe through listening to that other person's pain or idea isn't rooted in your own 'selfish' thinking?

Am I close or just rambling?
 

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Wow man that's profound. It sounds like being in a state of intense observation. My ideas are "my ideas", but an idea from a source outside yourself should be cherished even more because their observation comes from a purer place than yours?

For example I could be thinking about "this idea will win big" "I can sell tons of these!", but what you observe through listening to that other person's pain or idea isn't rooted in your own 'selfish' thinking?

Am I close or just rambling?

NO YOU'RE NOT RAMBLING. OH MY F*ckING A YOU GET IT! MY MISSION IS COMPLETE. LET'S PARTY AND GET DRUNK! YOLOOOO!

I'm going to unlock the potential in all of you. All of you can amass great wealth for yourselves if you give yourself the permission to. I give you permission to succeed. I give you permission to fail and be yourself. I give you permission to be vulnerable and be your authentic self with others.

Why haven't you guys given yourselves permission to succeed? That little voice in the back of your mind feeding you bullshit stories about why you can't have everything you ever dreamed of...crush him.

I need you to learn to build your own ice cream shops so we can build a following and give back to society. I see too much pain and suffering around me. Do it for your wife, your kids, your family, your cousin, whatever. Just do it. Whatever the F*ck it takes. Just do it. Build the ice cream kingdom so we can all party together in Candy Land.

Yo Dave where in Florida do you live? I wanna go to Miami. I'll rent a Lambo for a day and we can cruise around, go nuts throwing ice cream in the air.
 
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Are you having trouble marketing? Have you studied copy yet?

Good point here. Frankly I didn't fully understand the term until I read Z's golden nuggets. Since then, I have paid more attention to the subject.

I bought the Boron letters (per your recommendation). Great stuff, 50% of the way through it. Thank you.

Background: I've built several businesses. I just haven't built a "raving" one yet.
 

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NO YOU'RE NOT RAMBLING. OH MY F*ckING A YOU GET IT! MY MISSION IS COMPLETE. LET'S PARTY AND GET DRUNK! YOLOOOO!

Yo Dave where in Florida do you live? I wanna go to Miami. I'll rent a Lambo for a day and we can cruise around, go nuts throwing ice cream in the air.

:D Awesome. I'm 3hrs north of Miami. Yeah!

I was having a conversation with my brother along these lines, recommending him to be on the lookout for what people are complaining about in the laboratory (he works in hospital). Just being open and observing complaints about software, old machinery, and outdated processes they use.. extract an idea and jump in.

Well Ryan I haven't given myself permission to succeed because I'm still trying to hang on to my web development training (2 year AS Degree, graduated Fall 2013 with no debt) instead of jumping off into copywriting (as recommended by many on this forum).

I could give you a shit ton of backstory, but it's useless at this point. It's decision time.
 
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I was having a conversation with my brother along these lines, recommending him to be on the lookout for what people are complaining about in the laboratory (he works in hospital). Just being open and observing complaints about software, old machinery, and outdated processes they use.. extract an idea and jump in.

Don't jump into business just yet. Having the valid idea is only a small part of the battle. The bigger battle is marketing while being able to create a convincing and compelling offer. That's what gets you the ice cream.

I'm going to teach this part in a little bit...but it's Friday night and the focus should be to get drunk. Don't worry, I'll wake up early and get back on the grind again. It's easy to do when you're in your 20's.
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This is a great thread and i just read all the way through it. Really catching the vibe here. One of the things I wanted to share and it has to do less with business and more with life in general. My wife went sort of through a depressed state over the last few years. Our marriage suffered and we became distant. I always felt she was really pushing out negativity into the universe. She was always angry about something or talked down about others and it made me mad. I wanted her to see how mad I was for her negativity. But it only brought more of it. It was unbearable enough I seriously thought about leaving her. I kept telling myself she was bringing me down. Most people told me that you cannot surround yourself with that sort of negativity, it will only prevent you from becoming happy and successful in life. So I contemplated leaving even more.

Then one day it just clicked. It all fit together like a puzzle and I solved it. And my life right now is amazing. Her negativity was so contagious that it caught on like wildfire to anyone who was around, and especially me since i lived with her. And I tried to change her so desperately because I hated to see her this way. But the answer just stood there in front of me this one moment. I knew right then I could reverse it, because of the laws of nature. I was looking in the wrong place. I wasn't going to change her by yelling at her or telling her to stop being so negative. What I did was became so overly positive and happy and cheerful and made a change inside of me that it began to slowly catch on to her, and eventually the way I became and interacted with her and with others became so contagious she began to adopt my attitudes and behaviors. It was through my positive attitude and the changes I made within myself, that spread like wildfire to my wife.

So the BEST ADVICE I could ever give someone if they grow apart from their wife is not to try and save her or make her do anything. You change yourself and be the person you need to be and even be the person you want them to be, and do it with so much ambition and heart that it becomes so contagious. Once you learn you can do this, you can really see how you can influence others through your own behavior. It's amazing to see how much influence you truly do have by exuding positive energy.
 

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Dude, are you alright? I'm really sorry to hear about your health issues. It's hard to stay on top of your game when you're not feeling like a 10 physically...it impacts everything else.

Weightlifting actually played a huge role in my business progress, but that's a story for another day. In the real world, I actually don't eat any snacks because they spike your insulin which cause you to feel tired and lethargic.

I read James Altucher's book too. I actually took huge issue with how he says you should come up with ideas. Walking around with a notepad and just noting down whatever comes to mind...meh, that didn't work for me. I really like his writing style though.

What worked for me was getting out there and talking to people. Pick up the phone. Face to face. Belly to belly.

Please read my 2nd post again. The one about loving the hell out of others. Make yourself truly present to others and get them to feel that you truly understand where they're coming from. They will tell you their greatest fears, hopes, and dreams...There lies the key that unlocks pandora's box. They will tell you their needs, pains, and struggles once they trust you and feel you understand them. You will become a better friend, lover, and businessperson. You cannot be selfish because this will blind you.

Shoot...didn't @MJ DeMarco 's million dollar idea come to him while he was just driving a passenger around in his limo?! MJ made himself present and truly listened to the guy! He didn't let his brain wander off thinking about the latest episode of The Bachelorette.

You don't need to come up with ideas. Make yourself present to others and the ideas will come to you. Don't push for ideas. Pull for them. How do you become present to others? Love them. Truly.

I'm telling you, there's a crazy spiritual side to business. That's what I'm trying to explain.

I truly wish you the best of health though. That's #1. Take care of yourself. Forget the ice cream, that leads to diabetes.

Gym. Tan. Laundry.

You know, its irony at its finest. Very shortly prior to starting in on entrepreneurship and discovering this forum I had spent 3 years so depressed and low that even now I still wonder what stopped me from offing myself. Mentally I did a 180, everyone who knew me saw it and looked at me in another light.. It was truly an amazing experience. From the ashes rose a giant, not only mentally/ spiritually speaking but I hit the gym like you and was the most physically fit I've been in my life a few short months ago. Then without going into much detail, I've been in lots of pain recently. Just cancelled 1 surgery for a 6th opinion this week actually. Alas, I will return!!

You know, this is something I actually have a lot of trouble with. Even though I've for the most part conquered my depression, I developed quite a disdain for humans. I've accepted and grown to appreciate my alone time, more than ever I prefer it to being out with people. I need to become more accepting of people and their faults, and learn to look past them. Trust me when I say that my nature isn't selfish and that has never played a role in the equation, its just a history of having been being let down by those who I've trusted whether they were close or acquaintances that have made me like this. I know I need to stop being an antisocial bitch, and keep thinking that everyone is out to undermine or take advantage of me. Still a work on progress here lol.

The part that Dave quoted, he's right that really was profound. Thank you for giving me a new light to see things in, its quote to live by for sure.

Enjoy your night man!
 
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I'm smelling a little GOLD in here... :hungry:
 
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Are you missing that 1% too?

Wouldn't it feel great to know you had the final piece? The final brush strokes on your masterpiece?

Join me in this feeling of creation and completion. Go to Amazon. Download the Boron letters.

Turn to page 125. Now, not tomorrow. This feeling can't wait until tomorrow. Get this feeling now!

(Ok, so you probably picked up my first attempt at copy. At any rate the letters are pure GOLD. Many thanks to the OP and Z.)

...and btw, I'm willing to bet money that page 125 was my missing 1%.
 

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I developed quite a disdain for humans. I need to become more accepting of people and their faults, and learn to look past them. It's just a history of having been being let down by those who I've trusted whether they were close or acquaintances that have made me like this. I know I need to stop being an antisocial bitch, and keep thinking that everyone is out to undermine or take advantage of me.

My brother, this post of yours hurts me deeply because you remind me of a younger version of myself. It hurts me to see others go through such pain.

Do you know why you're hurt? I'll tell you why...a lot of your hurt comes from the expectations you have placed on others not being met. Learn to love people AS THEY ARE. Not for who you expect them to be. That is the Dolphin way.

Listen…you can bounce back from this. I was depressed for a while. I hated people…I had so much hurt and anguish inside of me. I couldn’t even get the energy to get out of bed at one point. The desert of desertion is no joke. It's soooo painful. I don't wish it on anyone, even George Bush. Self-doubt sneaks up and starts whispering at you. Your confidence gets shaken up. A bad experience leaves a scar. Maybe fear creeps in. Or stress. Or fatigue. Or frustration.

· I spent $5k developing a mobile app and ended up with zero sales.

· I got scammed out of $6k by a real estate “guru”

· My ex-girlfriend stole $7k from me, left me then got a boob job right after

· I started a property management company that failed because I didn’t have a USP and I didn’t know about writing copy yet

· I got cheated on in every relationship I’ve ever had because I didn’t know what to look for in a woman just yet

· Parents kept telling me to get a job

· I couldn’t keep a job long term because I couldn’t stand a**hole bosses

Somewhere down the line, you begin to discover that all of the challenges in your life are designed specifically to strengthen weaknesses within your character.

Be grateful for all of those challenges. The a**hole boss, the bitch that betrayed you after you gave her your heart, the “friends” who took advantage of you…they were all there to help you become a stronger version of yourself.

Be thankful for them. Love them for what they did for you.

They say nice guys finish last, but they usually finish with a good wife and a wicked savings account.

Never give up…this is one of the key secrets of the Dolphin. Mindset is everything. Once you have the right mindset, the ice cream gods in the sky will smile down upon you while rainbow skittles and rainbow sherbet will begin falling from the clouds.

Don't give up.
 
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Great thread! Are you a motivational speaker?

Thread Take Aways:
  1. Learn Copyrighting
  2. Love your fellow man
  3. Show him, by absolving him of his pain
  4. Make ice cream
Now, to learn copyrighting or make ice cream. My belly has the answer...
 
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Great thread! Are you a motivational speaker?

Thread Take Aways:
  1. Learn Copyrighting
  2. Love your fellow man
  3. Show him, by absolving him of his pain
  4. Make ice cream
Now, to learn copyrighting or make ice cream. My belly has the answer...

I am not a motivational speaker, but I enjoy speaking and I like motivating people. I have a bunch of friends in the offline world that I've been teaching the Dolphin mindset to. It works. I can't listen to motivational stuff anymore...the stuff pisses me off. Mental masturbation is against the law where I live and the police have put me in jail for it a few times. Taking consistent action and getting drunk daily are the only two things allowed in the ice cream shop...zero mental masturbation.

Thank you for the listing the takeaways. #4 is crucial because it is your responsibility to give back to society and leave the world a better place. You are learning well and I sincerely believe that if you take action daily, you will have an ice cream store franchise throughout the UK.
 

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Haha, man you rock.
Seriously, there is awesome in the way you shrug it all off :D
No ego, just ice cream.

That ego stiffness comes from nowhere and damn is it ever a persistant thing to purge.
It destroys peoples self esteem. Being stiff like that makes even talented people dumb, better to be stupid and make icecream. Get to the task by any means.

Give out rediculously

If I have any regret, it is that my icecreamery did not have more boozing in the making
 

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