The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Random Chat Thread...

[Xavier X]

Thanks Mitch. I was thinking of trying one of those, but decided to stick with ChatGPT for the moment. It's training it slowly on what I do, not so I can get it to spit out content, but so I can have better chats with it about what I'm doing in/for my business etc.

I'd love to switch to Gemini at some point. I use one Gmail account to manage my various business email addresses, I store all documents on Google Drive, and use Google Sheets and Google Docs all the time. Having one AI that has access to all my content and where I can ask it questions would be great.


Agreed. I swear most content is written by AI now too.

I've written enough posts online in my lifetime to be able to write more than well enough online without AI's help. Even it lightly editing my posts slows me down.

One of my best performing posts was written on my phone while on the tarmac waiting for the plane to take off. It was a bit of a rant and I just wrote it as I went along. I didn't have time to edit it much before having to turn off my phone. I bet AI would screw that post up and bleed any personality out of it.

I also bet we could train our own AI assitant to be better, but I can't be bothered.

The best way to improve text with AI is to have it make improvement recommendations, rather than do the edit.
Ask "what changes can I make to improve this text, to better communicate XYZ." Of the recommendations it offers, there'll be some actionable suggestions. They're usually good.

If you're not looking for suggestions on the text and only want to fix spelling and punctuation, then specify that it only edits those things. Otherwise, you'll end up with AI voice. No one likes AI voice.

 

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[Andy Black]

If you're not looking for suggestions on the text and only want to fix spelling and punctuation, then specify that it only edits those things. Otherwise, you'll end up with AI voice. No one likes AI voice.

Dammit. Why didn't I think of that?

 

[Andreas]

You'd think that using AI to generate business ideas would be awesome and make it so easy to find something interesting and viable.

I've been using ChatGPT for this purpose for several weeks, looking for a new path for myself. After hundreds of conversations with various angles, concepts, languages, target audiences, target countries, etc. I have to conclude it's terrible.

I lost track of the amount of idiotic $500 "playbooks" it recommended and other completely absurd things nobody would ever pay for. And of course, it sells everything as the greatest business idea ever (unless you tell him to be critical, then it'll instantly say it's the worst idea ever).

I'm curious how many new entrepreneurs who aren't as cynical/skeptical as me go with these dumb ChatGPT ideas and then waste their lives thinking "it has to work, ChatGPT told me it would make $16,000 in the first six months!"

The quality of info that you get in this case depends on what you feed it.

Try feeding it different competitor website URLs and ask it, what are the most commonly referred ideas, keywords, products, etc. that have to do with your subject.

If you have trend or sales reports on an industry, upload it as an attachment and then give a specific prompt.

I have personally found this method to be more effective. Generic prompts usually give you generic answers. I'm not saying that it will be a game changer or work for you, but you might get a nugget or two out of it.

 

[MTF]

The quality of info that you get in this case depends on what you feed it.

Try feeding it different competitor website URLs and ask it, what are the most commonly referred ideas, keywords, products, etc. that have to do with your subject.

If you have trend or sales reports on an industry, upload it as an attachment and then give a specific prompt.

I have personally found this method to be more effective. Generic prompts usually give you generic answers. I'm not saying that it will be a game changer or work for you, but you might get a nugget or two out of it.

Fair point. I was giving it lots of constraints and concepts and businesses to model but not enough more quantifiable data.

 

[Andreas]

Fair point. I was giving it lots of constraints and concepts and businesses to model but not enough more quantifiable data.

To clarify further, I noticed that AI doesn't think for itself, and many times (if not all the time) it just pulls information that is most commonly mentioned in the top-ranking websites of your chosen topic.

In my industry, I found that a lot of information is reliably false because people care more about SEO without providing useful content, and I suspect that AI is already constrained mostly to that content.

For example, if you search for side hustles, it's probably going to come up with a lot of garbage that doesn't work because it was posted by a few popular websites that preach without practice and the thousands of copycats who want to replicate their success.

So the files that you attach or the websites that you mention in the prompt should be the primary constraints. If you are looking for new ideas, it's best to ask the AI to scan a source that you trust and then go down the rabbit hole.

Ideas come by looking at existing information and letting your mind rest for some time without thinking about your chosen subject.
Just be ready to write them down when they bubble up while you are taking a long dump or right before you sleep.

 

[The Sandman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1925050052273143948

View: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1925050052273143948

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

The best way to improve text with AI is to have it make improvement recommendations, rather than do the edit.

This is how I've been using it.

I don't use it to think for me, I use it to help me express my ideas and thoughts more concisely.

If I feed it a completed, written concept, it will take the concept and explain it better.

On a scale of 1 to 10, if I explained the concept at a 6, it will turn it into 9 or 10.

Less verbosity. Clearer.

Of course, the output still needs moderate edits to maintain my voice, but it really provides a great foundation of strength.

 

[TataMata]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivty6t0lUkQ


There will be no youtube in a years time... Personally, I don't see the value in this and would be curious to see the analytics - can't imagine people really watch any such video through and through let alone a series. What are your thoughts?

 

[StrikingViper69]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivty6t0lUkQ


There will be no youtube in a years time... Personally, I don't see the value in this and would be curious to see the analytics - can't imagine people really watch any such video through and through let alone a series. What are your thoughts?

The average person wants an excuse to look at a screen, they don't care about the quality of what they're watching... I agree that it will make YouTube trashier than ever, but also more successful

 

[Andy Black]

WTF is ChatGPT doing?

I bumped into a friend yesterday who helps setup or move IT infrastructure.

I said I'd have a quick look at his site and think about keywords people might search to find his business.

The services page has content like this:





I pointed ChatGPT to this services page and asked it to summarise the services.

It confirmed it could read the content on the page.

Then it made a load of sh*t up, that they DO NOT DO!


Services Offered

• Bespoke Software Solutions
  • Tailored applications to fit specific business needs.
• System Integration
  • Linking systems to streamline data flow and eliminate duplication.
• Mobile Applications
  • Development for iOS and Android using cross-platform technologies.
• Database Design and Development
  • Structured databases with a focus on performance and reliability.
• Cloud Services
  • Including hosting, backups, and Office 365 setup.
• IT Support and Maintenance
  • Ongoing support for applications and infrastructure.
• Consultancy Services
  • Strategic IT planning and problem-solving for businesses.

It just f*cking lies. I hate it.

 

[Andy Black]

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[AceVentures]

How do you capitalize on realness on an internet that will be progressively flooded with generative production?

 

[amp0193]

How do you capitalize on realness on an internet that will be progressively flooded with generative production?

Sell a product that is uniquely suited to generate real world, person to person, word of mouth.

 

[Andy Black]

How do you capitalize on realness on an internet that will be progressively flooded with generative production?

I think it brings documentary/Netflix quality video to experts who previously wouldn't have been able to put their content out.

We know the limitations of AI, and how it doesn't have (or show?) the insights or experience of experts.

There's lots of videos I'd love to create for instance, but not by hiring video freelancers. The cycle of creating, reviewing, adjusting is how I prefer to work and create, and it's best when I do it myself.

 

[amp0193]

How do you capitalize on realness on an internet that will be progressively flooded with generative production?

Gated content by real people will be in demand.

Substack will continue to thrive.

We will start paying for our information again like it’s 1920.

Images and videos will need to be verified behind paywalls with traceable creation history (blockchain or other).

 

[Andy Black]

WTF is ChatGPT doing?

I bumped into a friend yesterday who helps setup or move IT infrastructure.

I said I'd have a quick look at his site and think about keywords people might search to find his business.

The services page has content like this:

View attachment 66367



I pointed ChatGPT to this services page and asked it to summarise the services.

It confirmed it could read the content on the page.

Then it made a load of sh*t up, that they DO NOT DO!


Services Offered

• Bespoke Software Solutions
  • Tailored applications to fit specific business needs.
• System Integration
  • Linking systems to streamline data flow and eliminate duplication.
• Mobile Applications
  • Development for iOS and Android using cross-platform technologies.
• Database Design and Development
  • Structured databases with a focus on performance and reliability.
• Cloud Services
  • Including hosting, backups, and Office 365 setup.
• IT Support and Maintenance
  • Ongoing support for applications and infrastructure.
• Consultancy Services
  • Strategic IT planning and problem-solving for businesses.

It just f*cking lies. I hate it.

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This is a step backwards for ChatGPT. Previously I could point it at 4 websites and get it to create a table showing all the services provided by all those businesses.

ChatGPT not following instructions to never use em-dashes is amusing but not a game changer.

Now I don't trust ChatGPT, and it getting worse isn't a good sign. If it can no longer read content off a page then it should say it can't, not act like it still can. That's poor.

I'm now looking at other AI tools. I'd love to use Gemini as so much of my work is in Google tools already (Gmail, Google Drive, Google Sheets, Google Docs, Google Slides, YouTube, heck... even Google Ads). There's also Google Studio, which is for coding I think.

I also wouldn't bet against Google. They've been scraping pages off the internet for much longer than OpenAI. And everyone seems to have a gmail/Google account nowadays, so I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes their way of getting more people to use their AI tools to be more productive.

Oh, and they're incorporating Gemini results/chat into the Google SERP at a rapid pace, and most people still use Google for searching rather than ChatGPT - no matter what the AI influencers in my LinkedIn feed would have us believe.

 

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[Andy Black]

Google AI news. Very impressed.

View: https://youtu.be/Qcq_12JIHR8?si=6qZlVFFQN5utRuta

 

[NickHere]

It confirmed it could read the content on the page.

Then it made a load of sh*t up, that they DO NOT DO!

Haven't read all your posts, so might be something you already do but previously I've had slightly better results by instructing it to check all of its findings and to review before sending them to me.

 

[Andy Black]

Haven't read all your posts, so might be something you already do but previously I've had slightly better results by instructing it to check all of its findings and to review before sending them to me.

I don't do that and will try it, but we shouldn't have to. It's like asking it to give me the correct answer to a question instead of giving me any correct or incorrect answer.

I'm done with ChatGPT now. I'll switch to Gemini and Google's whole suite of products. They're a massive, profitable, data led business with an engineering DNA. Sure, I think Google Ads is a money grabbing product with hidden settings to fleece unsuspecting advertisers, but we can't argue with all the free functionality we get from them. Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Maps, Google Search, YouTube, to name a few.

 

[TataMata]

Images and videos will need to be verified behind paywalls with traceable creation history (blockchain or other).

There will be personal ais to filter ai content

It's like asking it to give me the correct answer to a question instead of giving me any correct or incorrect answer.

Well yeah, dont forget LLMs are text generators - they dont and cant do “correct”.

 

[Andy Black]

This comment on LinkedIn makes a lot of sense to me:

 

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[parabolic]

I'm talking to ChatGPT about Vinyl Command and correcting it when it is wrong. Most of what is saying is good though.

 

[parabolic]

DuckDuckGo has an AI feature now - duck.ai

 

[Xavier X]

As far as AI videos go, I think musicians and businesses will benefit the most.

Musicians can finally make official music videos for all their songs. That has never been the case, but I think that's the next bus stop. The older ones can even resurrect their old catalog by creating new visuals that are accurate to the time period they were released. A younger version of themselves singing their old songs.

Before YouTube, music videos were pretty much an expense filed under "promotional costs." No one was trying to go all out shooting videos. Artists make decent money off their music videos on YouTube now, so I imagine they'll be all over it soon.

For businesses, it's already happening. Most people hated the AI Coca Cola Christmas ad, but meh, that won't stop it. Since most actors in commercials are unknown, it's easy to make AI commercials that most won't even realize is AI.

Soon, it won't make fiscal sense to spend on a big budget commercial ad shoot, when it can be AI-generated, at the same or higher quality. There'll always be a push-back from purists, but at this point, resistance is futile.

 

[NickHere]

I don't do that and will try it, but we shouldn't have to. It's like asking it to give me the correct answer to a question instead of giving me any correct or incorrect answer.

I'm done with ChatGPT now. I'll switch to Gemini and Google's whole suite of products. They're a massive, profitable, data led business with an engineering DNA. Sure, I think Google Ads is a money grabbing product with hidden settings to fleece unsuspecting advertisers, but we can't argue with all the free functionality we get from them. Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Maps, Google Search, YouTube, to name a few.

You know, I don't know why but I've never used Gemini. Seems insane now that I think about it, especially as I use the whole Google suite already. I mean I even use a bloody Google pixel phone!

Assuming it is just as good, might have to look into switching.

 

[theNeverMore]

DuckDuckGo has an AI feature now - duck.ai

I work at a company that has everything related to AI blocked on the browser.

Duck AI is the only way I found to use other LLMs. It's great!

 

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[theNeverMore]

You know, I don't know why but I've never used Gemini. Seems insane now that I think about it, especially as I use the whole Google suite already. I mean I even use a bloody Google pixel phone!

Assuming it is just as good, might have to look into switching.

I watched Google I/O 2025. They're sticking Gemini into every corner of their products.

On Google Sheets there are 3 CTAs now on the same screen to use Gemini.

I'm thinking of moving all my notes from Obsidian to Google Drive just because it's so powerful now to search through all your docs

Anyone thinking about paying $130 / every 3 months for the Ultra plan?

 

[Andy Black]

I watched Google I/O 2025. They're sticking Gemini into every corner of their products.

On Google Sheets there are 3 CTAs now on the same screen to use Gemini.

I'm thinking of moving all my notes from Obsidian to Google Drive just because it's so powerful now to search through all your docs

Anyone thinking about paying $130 / every 3 months for the Ultra plan?

I just cancelled ChatGPT and will start using Gemini. I'll see how I go with the free plan first.


EDIT: Actually, I can't cancel at the moment:

 

[eliquid]

This is how I've been using it.

I don't use it to think for me, I use it to help me express my ideas and thoughts more concisely.

If I feed it a completed, written concept, it will take the concept and explain it better.

On a scale of 1 to 10, if I explained the concept at a 6, it will turn it into 9 or 10.

Less verbosity. Clearer.

Of course, the output still needs moderate edits to maintain my voice, but it really provides a great foundation of strength.

Example of prompt and is this in Claude?

 

[AceVentures]

One of the funniest things I read this week.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1925292142684975271

View: https://x.com/sterlingcrispin/status/1925292142684975271

*Slavoj Zizek sniffs loudly touching his nose* Ah yes yes the corporate pastoral. This is a perfect ideological object. You see, you see here Sam, he pretends to give us a modest, one could say intimate conversation between two friends. No. This is a mythopoetic act of ideological laundering. *Sniff*

This is not, you see, this is not a product announcement. No. Sam is giving us a myth, you see. *Sniff* This film, if one can call such a thing a film, is a strategic myth making artefact to construct an origin story. This is a biopic about themselves played by themselves, you see. Masturbation. *Sniff* The hubris is astounding. *Sniff*

This opens, what do we see, what do we see first? *Sniff* We see the power shot, the money shot yes? Looking up from the ground up into the towering city. We are small. Silicon Valley is big. Money you see, technology, forbidden sex, and so on. San Francisco to be precise. Yes? *Sniff*

Then what? Soft lighting, yes, soft focus, flowers in the city and so on. Two friends. No. *Sniff*

These are not two friends. These are the ideologues of techno capital, you see. *Sniff*. The priests preparing you for the sacrament of their new device. *Sniff*

They smile, you see, "We know we are building godlike machines, but we are such nice people!" *Sniff* Yes very good Sam. And thank you. They shake our hands and smile, while the machine, you see, the machine takes our jobs and our soul, or what have you. *Sniff*

Yes? But the cafe, what a nice cafe I must say. The cafe invites us in. Not just two friends together, you see. We are, as the viewer, we are also their third friend. *Sniff* Perhaps lover, or some such. We will see how the night goes, you know? *Sniff*

But Sam, yes, he does not care about money. Power? No. *Sniff* This boy king, the caring sovereign, he worries about us. The little people you see. *Sniff*

The master holds the weight, the original sin, so we may enjoy without guilt. *Sniff* Sam is our Jesus, so we can ask the computer our little questions and not worry. Not to worry about the labor, or the exploitation, or the environmental costs and so on. *Sniff*

So you see, this is, you see this is to build a moral legitimacy around leadership figures at at a time when, you know *Sniff* AI is taking our jobs, and "How will I feed my family" and "Oh no we are all going to die" and so on. *Sniff*

Notice. Notice they do not talk about technology you see. Values. *Sniff* This is the hand of ideology that distracts you while the other, the other hand you see, it takes from you.

But thank you for the coffee Jony, and yes the iPhone. *Sniff* Jony is the great thinker Yes? And Jony gives us emotional connection, yes? And the family man stands hand in hand with Sam, as deliberate contrast to the tech overlord he pretends not to be, you see. *Sniff*

The European family man with the children and, you know, the forbidden sexual desires of San Francisco and what have you. *Sniff*

We have our origin story, the myth you see, chance encounters in the cafe. *Sniff* "It is funny running into you here Jony!" Yes it must be nice what are the odds of such an encounter. *Sniff*

And what? Personal anecdotes they give us, yes, some shared vision to reinforce authenticity in a film which, let us be honest for a moment, this could very well be in the post credits scene of a marvel movie or, you know *Sniff* some such profane act of capitalist entertainment, a mickey mouse adventure or what have you. *Sniff*

And for what? For what is all of this labor and AI and devices and so on *Sniff* So we can find ourselves in a moment, lost, "Oh no" we say, "Oh no I wonder. I have a question to which there is no answer, I cannot think for myself?" *Sniff*

No. Let us go to the phone yet again. We must ask the device. But no. You see. *Sniff* My phone is in my pocket. We need a new device you see. Yes? *Sniff*

A device which, a device which always listens, you see. *Sniff* An all knowing god who can answer my questions, and tell me what to think, and what should I say, *Sniff* what should I do, and I am afraid and oh no who am I and I am sad and who should I F*ck and so on. Yes? *Sniff*

So you see *Sniff* This film is not a documentary yes? *Sniff* What we see here is christ carrying the cross alone through the streets. *Sniff* But not a cross you see. Jony. Jony gives us the iPhone and Sam puts AI inside the device. *Sniff* And now? Now we don't need to think *Sniff* We can just have the AI and the AI, you see, *Sniff* It's wonderful.