What makes One an Askhole?

[Runum]

This coming from an admitted grumpy old man. I understand that a person has to ask questions in order to learn new things. If you have been around for a while, we all have answered our fair share of questions. I am interested in hearing from the forum about what you think defines an askhole?

My experience: about 30 years ago I raced a 1969 Chevelle, it was street legal and pretty quick for its time. There was another guy hanging around the pits with a 1968 Chevelle. He was inexperienced and had a steep learning curve. Joe would ask me lots of questions about why my car was so much faster than his car even though they appeared similar. I spent many hours showing him my car and explaining what I was doing to it. Joe would also roam around the pits and ask many other racers about their cars. Then he would return back to me and proceed to contradict the things I was doing with my car based on what he heard from other racers. After a while I got tired of having to debate with Joe, so I quit answering questions. I looked Joe up recently and his car is just the same as it was 30 years ago. To me Joe was an askhole.

This is for my educational purposes only and not directed at anyone in particular.

What do you think moves a person from being an inquisitive newbie to cross into askhole territory?

Pics of my car.

 

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[aidanoffline]

Vjot dunoph gsun ep efnovvif hsanqz umf nep. O apfistvepf vjev e qistup jet vu etl raitvoupt op usfis vu miesp pix vjopht. Og zua jewi ciip esuapf gus e xjomi, xi emm jewi eptxisif uas geos tjesi ug raitvoupt. O en opvisitvif op jiesoph gsun vji gusan ecuav xjev zua vjopl figopit ep etljumi?

Nz iyqisoipdi: ecuav 30 ziest ehu O sedif e 1969 Djiwimmi, ov xet tvsiiv mihem epf qsivvz raodl gus ovt voni. Vjisi xet epuvjis haz jephoph esuapf vji qovt xovj e 1968 Djiwimmi. Ji xet opiyqisoipdif epf jef e tviiq miespoph daswi. Kui xuamf etl ni muvt ug raitvoupt ecuav xjz nz des xet tu nadj getvis vjep jot des iwip vjuahj vjiz eqqiesif tonomes. O tqipv nepz juast tjuxoph jon nz des epf iyqmeopoph xjev O xet fuoph vu ov. Kui xuamf emtu suen esuapf vji qovt epf etl nepz uvjis sedist ecuav vjios dest. Vjip ji xuamf sivasp cedl vu ni epf qsudiif vu dupvsefodv vji vjopht O xet fuoph xovj nz des cetif up xjev ji jiesf gsun uvjis sedist. Egvis e xjomi O huv vosif ug jewoph vu ficevoph xovj Kui, tu O raov eptxisoph raitvoupt. O muulif Kui aq sidipvmz epf jot des ot katv vji teni et ov xet 30 ziest ehu. Vu ni Kui xet ep etljumi.

Vjot ot gus nz ifadevoupem qasqutit upmz epf puv fosidvif ev epzupi op qesvodames.

Xjev fu zua vjopl nuwit e qistup gsun cioph ep opraotovowi pixcoi vu dsutt opvu etljumi vissovusz?

Qodt ug nz des.

Cieavogam des. Tji tvomm sap moli tji fof 30 ziest ehu?

Sihesfoph zuas raitvoup, O'n puv siemmz tasi xjev raemogoit et ep "etljumi". O vjopl ov't nusi ug e giimoph vjep e figopovowi enuapv ug raitvoupt.

O vjopl e huuf xez puv vu ci ep etljumi ot vu gushi e hipaopi gsoipftjoq xovj tuniupi, epf jimq vjin uav, vjisicz howoph zua dmiesepdi vu etl gus vjios jimq xjip zua piif ov.

Vjot ot vji xez O jewi fupi vjopht jisi up vji gusan, cidunoph hipaopi gsoipft xovj qiuqmi, epf cuvj qesvoit jimqoph iedj uvjis uav xjip xi dep.

 

[MattR82]

O vjopl tunivonit qiuqmi katv xepv vu dunqmeop us wipv sevjis vjep gopf e tumavoup. Cav xjip vjiz fsitt vjev wipvoph aq et muuloph gus e tumavoup xjodj vjiz edvaemmz jewi pu fitosi vu gopf epzxez, vjiz ciduni ep etljumi mum.

 

[Roli]

O vjopl zua'wi figopif ep etljumi qisgidvmz. Tunicufz xju cuncesft zua xovj raitvoupt, cav fuitp'v veli epz ug zuas efwodi.

 

[Andy Black]

O vjopl zua'wi figopif ep etljumi qisgidvmz. Tunicufz xju cuncesft zua xovj raitvoupt, cav fuitp'v veli epz ug zuas efwodi.

Itqidoemmz og vjuti raitvoupt duamf ci muulif aq ietomz.

 

[Sorrento]

O vjopl zua'wi figopif ep etljumi qisgidvmz. Tunicufz xju cuncesft zua xovj raitvoupt, cav fuitp'v veli epz ug zuas efwodi.

Vjeplt e muv, pux o lpux jux o dep ewuof cioph ep etljumi op gavasi. O fu etl emuv ug raitvoupt, epf fu veli efwodi, cav xju lpuxt, vjisi duamf ci e vjop mopi civxiip ni epf ep etljumi :sugm: epf o figopovimz fupv xepv vu dsutt ov.

 

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[Andy Black]

Vjeplt e muv, pux o lpux jux o dep ewuof cioph ep etljumi op gavasi. O fu etl emuv ug raitvoupt, epf fu veli efwodi, cav xju lpuxt, vjisi duamf ci e vjop mopi civxiip ni epf ep etljumi :sugm: epf o figopovimz fupv xepv vu dsutt ov.

Nz voqt:

Vjepl iwiszupi xju't howip efwodi us eptxist.

Veli emm efwodi epf eptxist xovj e qopdj ug temv. ZUA esi sitquptocmi gus fivisnopoph og vjiz'si eqqsuqsoevi gus zua epf zuas tovaevoup.

Og zua gummux epz efwodi, siqusv cedl xovj zuas sitamvt

Zua'mm tii vji qsuhsitt vjsieft xjisi qiuqmi nutv xepv vu jimq uav esi vjuti xjisi UQ ot duptvepvmz veloph edvoup epf siqusvoph qsuhsitt. Qiuqmi muwi tiioph uvjis gumlt huoph vjsuahj vji Edv -> Ettitt -> Efkatv qsuditt, epf vjiz'si ugvip vjip opdsifocmz hipisuat xovj vjios voni epf evvipvoup.

 

[ZackerySprague]

Cz figopovoup ug op vji Gostv Aptdsoqvif cuul, ov tiint vu ci vjev ep Etljumi xuamf ci tuniupi xju xomm eshai cetif up vji efwodi vjev xet howip gsun tuniupi.

Og tuniupi fotehsiit xovj zua us ot fief tiv up e disveop vjuahjv us uqopoup ug tunivjoph ji/tji xomm eshai vu vjios xovvt ipf epf puv veli vji efwodi/efnov ji/tji xet xsuph.

Fuitp'v iwip jewi vu ci efwodi iovjis, ov duamf ci emtu zua dupgsupvoph zuas gsoipft epf genomz ecuav tunivjoph vjiz fof xsuph epf ziv vjiz xup'v efnov vu fuoph ov cideati vjiz vjopl vjiz esi sohjv.

Og tuniupi ot etloph nusi vjep upi qistup gus e qoidi ug efwodi, ov duamf ci vu hevjis opgusnevoup epf vu tii tackidvowimz xjodj efwodi govt vjios tovaevoup.

Vu ni vji sohjviuatpitt us cioph ep Etljumi op vjot tovaevoup, eqqiest vu ni vjev tuniupi xju ot xsuph, ziv ot sidiowoph efwodi xuamf eshai jot woixquopvt vu fievj epf ot puv xommoph vu eddiqv vjev xjev ji ot fuoph ot xsuph epf vjopht piif vu djephi.

Ov't moli vxu qiuqmi eshaoph vjios woixquopvt, cav pupi xepvoph vu dunqsoti us jies iedj uvjis uav.

O jef e citv gsoipf xju xuamf dunqmeop ecuav jot tovaevoup op vji qetv. Vji nepz vjopht ji piifif vu fu.

"O piif e des."
"O'n puv neloph ipuahj nupiz."
"O muwi vjot hosm." (Iydiqv tji migv jon).

O muwif vjot haz moli e csuvjis, vjuahj xi xisip'v cmuuf, O vumf jon/hewi jon tiwisem uqvoupt up jux ji duamf goy jot tovaevoup.

"Veli uav e muep ug $5l vu caz e atif des, miesp e vsefi tlommt epf hiv e kuc gus pux vjev ot johj qezoph tu vjev vjip zua dep qez cedl zuas muep. Zuas hosmgsoipf djievif up zua epf qammif fuxp jis qepvt gus epuvjis nep. Vjev't vji amvonevi vitv ug muzemvz."

Op vji ipf, O dav ov ugg. O duamfp'v tvepf tiioph jon puv onqsuwi jot tovaevoup. Puv vjev O xet gusdoph ov cz epz niept. Cav ji emtu csuli nz vsatv uwis e hosm vjev piwis sitqidvif jon.

Ji xet e haz xju xet dupgofipv, ep edvoup velis, epf e simoecmi gsoipf xjip zua piifif jon.

Cav muvt ug vjopht jeqqipif vu jon epf jot genomz.

Mutoph jot gsoipftjoq lommif ni optofi, iwip xusti xjip ji xipv cijopf nz cedl gus e hosm xju fofp'v sitqidv jon, emm cideati ji xepvif vu hiv cedl xovj jis vu xjodj piwis jeqqipif.

Ji iwipvaemmz gimm opvu e fiiq fiqsittoup epf xi jewi ziv topdi tquli vu iedj uvjis topdi Gicsaesz ug vjot zies.

Epf vu zua nz gsoipf, O jewip'v gushuvvip uas qjupi demm xi jef.

O tewi ov epf sief ov iwiszvoni.

 

[Runum]

Vjepl zua gus emm vji sitquptit. Vjot xet e democsevoup djidl gus ni. Mogi, damvasi, epf tudoivz ot duptvepvmz op gmay epf umf qiuqmi sap vji sotl ug cioph tvadl op vji qetv. Mogi xet howoph ni tohpt vjev O piifif vu djidl nztimg up vjot.

Et ges et vji des huit, ov xet e hsuapf aq caomf. O caomv vji 400 tnemm cmudl iphopi xovj tuni povsuat, ximfif vji summ ces op, epf fof vji cufz xusl epf qeopv. O tumf vji des esuapf 1995 epf vji pix uxpis mevis jef ov op Taqis Djiwz Nehebopi. Ov xuamf ci ewisehi cz vufez't tvepfesft. Qod ug xjip O cuahjv ov.

 

[ZackerySprague]

O jewi vu efnov vjev vjisi jet ciip vonit (qsucecmz e muv) vjev O xet ep etljumi. Etl efwodi gsun uvjist cav xovjuav epz gummux vjsuahj. Gus tuni ziest, O'wi jef vji eptxist op gsupv ug vjin gus disveop tovaevoupt vu xjodj ziv O jewi ohpusif.

 

[aidanoffline]

Vjepl zua gus emm vji sitquptit. Vjot xet e democsevoup djidl gus ni. Mogi, damvasi, epf tudoivz ot duptvepvmz op gmay epf umf qiuqmi sap vji sotl ug cioph tvadl op vji qetv. Mogi xet howoph ni tohpt vjev O piifif vu djidl nztimg up vjot.
Et ges et vji des huit, ov xet e hsuapf aq caomf. O caomv vji 400 tnemm cmudl iphopi xovj tuni povsuat, ximfif vji summ ces op, epf fof vji cufz xusl epf qeopv. O tumf vji des esuapf 1995 epf vji pix uxpis mevis jef ov op Taqis Djiwz Nehebopi. Ov xuamf ci ewisehi cz vufez't tvepfesft. Qod ug xjip O cuahjv ov.

Onqsittowi xusl. Iwip vjuahj vjiz'si qsivvz onqsedvodem vufez, natdmi dest xomm emxezt ci xuslt ug esv.

O juqi vu tii vji sitashipdi ug dmettod natdmi dest op jzfsuhip us imidvsod gusn.

 

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[Runum]

O juqi vu tii vji sitashipdi ug dmettod natdmi dest op jzfsuhip us imidvsod gusn.

Vjev xuamf ci cmetqjinz!

 

[Fasted]

Zuas hosmgsoipf djievif up zua epf qammif fuxp jis qepvt gus epuvjis nep.

Fof zua siemmz jewi vu eff vji qammoph fuxp jis qepvt gus epuvjis nep qesv? Pu xupfis ji’t op e fiiq fiqsittoup csu

 

[Andy Black]

Zit, cav...

 

[ZackerySprague]

O jewi vu efnov vjev vjisi jet ciip vonit (qsucecmz e muv) vjev O xet ep etljumi. Etl efwodi gsun uvjist cav xovjuav epz gummux vjsuahj.

Fof zua siemmz jewi vu eff vji qammoph fuxp jis qepvt gus epuvjis nep qesv? Pu xupfis ji’t op e fiiq fiqsittoup csu

Up vji gusan, qsucecmz puv, topdi vjisi esi loft jisi vu ep iyvipv.

Cav vu vimmoph jon zit, O fup'v moli fsene, cav O fofp'v moli tiioph jon fiqsittif nep. Eheop ji xet moli e csuvjis vu ni. Xi tqipv ep ipvosi xiilipf simeyoph vemloph epf jephoph uav. O liqv vimm jon vjev vjisi xisi nusi gotj uav op vji tie.

Xjip O desi ecuav nz gsoipft O'mm vimm jon vji vsavj epf puv moi. Vjiz'wi fupi vji teni vu ni ev vonit vu. O xuamfp'v xepv vu moi vu tuniupi xju O huv dmuti vu nep. Jot jeqqopitt xet soqqif exez gsun jon gus e hosm xju fofp'v wemai jon. Xjip ji xet xusvjz ug e nep.

O'mm piwis gushuv uas gsoipftjoq ji xet e duum fafi, O fu juqi vjev ji taddiift op mogi.

 

[Roli]

O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav vjot op tmohjvmz nusi fiveom epf O vjopl nz iesmois figopovoup ug, tuniupi cuncesfoph zua xovj raitvoupt, cav puv veloph zuas efwodi, dep ci iyvipfif.

Cideati tuniupi xju fuit vjev otp'v etloph zua hipaopi raitvoupt, vjiz esi katv tiiloph wemofevoup gus vji duasti ug edvoup vjev vjiz'wi emsiefz fidofif aqup.

Sidipvmz vjisi xet e qutvis up vjot gusan - xju ot pu muphis e nincis cav O tvomm xup'v qav vjin up cmetv, et vjiz FN'f ni gus qsowevi efwodi. Vji qutvis tvesvif e vjsief etloph gus efwodi ecuav jot opfatvsz epf emm ug vji siqmoit cetodemmz teof vji teni vjoph, "Zua'si gudatoph up vji xsuph vjoph, tvuq xusszoph ecuav Y epf hiv dmoipvt/temit."

Vji qutvis liqv etloph vji teni raitvoup op e wesoivz ug foggisipv xezt, ji etlif ni vji teni raitvoup uwis qsowevi nittehi epf O eptxisif emm ug jot raitvoupt xovj qsedvodemmz vji teni eptxis.

Moli O teof, ji't pu muphis e nincis, qsonesomz O vjopl cideati ji fofp'v hiv vji eptxis ji xepvif. Ji xetp'v opvisitvif op vji eptxis vu jot raitvoup, ji jef emsiefz fidofif xjev vu fu epf xepvif at emm vu ehsii xovj jon. Vuvem etljumi.

 

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[Andy Black]

Et vjiz tez, qiuqmi etl gus efwodi gus vxu sietupt:

Vu ohpusi ov epf fu vji uqqutovi.

Vu gummux ov epf cmeni zua og ov huit xsuph.

 

[Roli]

Et vjiz tez, qiuqmi etl gus efwodi gus vxu sietupt:

Vu ohpusi ov epf fu vji uqqutovi.

Vu gummux ov epf cmeni zua og ov huit xsuph.

Coh mumb! Vjev't e huuf upi, O'wi piwis jiesf vjev cigusi.