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Hey everyone,

Would like to start stress & anxiety coaching people as a sidehustle. Currently doing a 20-hour training in a branch of psychotherapy (very practical, ideal for coaching).

But I lack the sales/communication/coaching skills and mindset.

I've been following an awesome dating & life coach (7+ years experience) for a long time already and I'm thinking of getting his mentorship.

I understand that I have a lot of blind spots, mindset limitations and beliefs that don't serve me (about making money and success) and this guy's really on point with that.

Obviously it isn't free, and even a lot of money.

Would love to hear any of your thoughts and experiences on being/having a mentor. Was it valuable, was it a waste of time... ?

Some elaboration would be nice, as more valuable insights will be needed as this is a difficult decision for me.

Thanks so much in advance!
Chris
 
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I'm not too qualified to comment but I thought I'd tell you something that I have learned recently. The amount of time and money I lost, and the frustration, confusion I faced lost me more time and money that I would have if I hired a mentor. I hired someone for help with Google Ads, and I noticed a while back when I hired a mentor, everything started to reveal itself to me and my eyes just opened up. For example, I was trying to cold email bloggers to get my app featured, he gave me feedback and said along the lines of:

"Your just going in and saying hey promote my app for free, I have nothing to give in return. You have to provide some value. It's like going to a stranger and asking for a favor".

If I didn't hire him, I would of still been stuck who knows how long on writing an email pitch, and I couldn't seem to get the answers off of Google (that might of me overthinking).

Learning by yourself is just frustrating, and no wonder it is so damn hard. It is because there is no direction, no road map, no way to know if you are doing it right but having a mentor gets rid of all of that. Of course you still have to work hard, but you are more directed.

Just my thoughts.
 

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I've had a couple of mentors, but nobody's had the time to devote to me fully. It was a free mentorship of course and those people gave me various viewpoints on various topics.

The funniest thing I've discovered is that you can learn everything they say by reading books, applying what you read and calibrating to your specific situation. A little bit more of X and little bit less of Y.

Also what I've found out is that you must set specific goals and then go after the mentors who've achieved that. I got wildly different advice on dealing with people. One set of advice was from a successful entrepreneur and the other was from my psychology professor.

I chose the entrepreneur's advice because I'm aspiring to be like the guy and, so far, it's working.

Bottom line, people in 99.9% of cases don't need mentors, but it's a great service to sell because it's easy to set up perceived value.

Do keep in mind that this is my personal view on mentorship, not a statement of fact so do not dispute it as one.
 

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I never had a mentor per se, so I cant speak on its value fully. But I learned so, so, so much from reading threads on here and observing the way certain people who "made it" discuss different subjects.
Sure you can learn anything on your own, given enough time and the right mindset, but boy does it help when someone who has been there before share his expertise and opinions on issues you're trying to figure out on your own.
In fact, am planning to ask for help and advice from some of the people I admire here once I get my life sorted. You're all a gold mine.
 

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Hey everyone,

Would like to start stress & anxiety coaching people as a sidehustle. Currently doing a 20-hour training in a branch of psychotherapy (very practical, ideal for coaching).

But I lack the sales/communication/coaching skills and mindset.

I've been following an awesome dating & life coach (7+ years experience) for a long time already and I'm thinking of getting his mentorship.

I understand that I have a lot of blind spots, mindset limitations and beliefs that don't serve me (about making money and success) and this guy's really on point with that.

Obviously it isn't free, and even a lot of money.

Would love to hear any of your thoughts and experiences on being/having a mentor. Was it valuable, was it a waste of time... ?

Some elaboration would be nice, as more valuable insights will be needed as this is a difficult decision for me.

Thanks so much in advance!
Chris
Do you have a progress thread in here?
 

VPchris

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I'm not too qualified to comment but I thought I'd tell you something that I have learned recently. The amount of time and money I lost, and the frustration, confusion I faced lost me more time and money that I would have if I hired a mentor. I hired someone for help with Google Ads, and I noticed a while back when I hired a mentor, everything started to reveal itself to me and my eyes just opened up. For example, I was trying to cold email bloggers to get my app featured, he gave me feedback and said along the lines of:

"Your just going in and saying hey promote my app for free, I have nothing to give in return. You have to provide some value. It's like going to a stranger and asking for a favor".

If I didn't hire him, I would of still been stuck who knows how long on writing an email pitch, and I couldn't seem to get the answers off of Google (that might of me overthinking).

Learning by yourself is just frustrating, and no wonder it is so damn hard. It is because there is no direction, no road map, no way to know if you are doing it right but having a mentor gets rid of all of that. Of course you still have to work hard, but you are more directed.

Just my thoughts.
Hey! Thanks for your answer. Yes this is also what I'm thinking about a lot. The sheer amount of trial and error the more successful guys have out there can significantly shortcut the way to success.

The biggest thing I'm thinking about is the impact on mindset and belief system, because I do feel there are quite some limitations as to whether I can bring enough value and regarding asking prices etcetera.

It's like there is still an internal brake on my progression and success.
 

VPchris

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I've had a couple of mentors, but nobody's had the time to devote to me fully. It was a free mentorship of course and those people gave me various viewpoints on various topics.

The funniest thing I've discovered is that you can learn everything they say by reading books, applying what you read and calibrating to your specific situation. A little bit more of X and little bit less of Y.

Also what I've found out is that you must set specific goals and then go after the mentors who've achieved that. I got wildly different advice on dealing with people. One set of advice was from a successful entrepreneur and the other was from my psychology professor.

I chose the entrepreneur's advice because I'm aspiring to be like the guy and, so far, it's working.

Bottom line, people in 99.9% of cases don't need mentors, but it's a great service to sell because it's easy to set up perceived value.

Do keep in mind that this is my personal view on mentorship, not a statement of fact so do not dispute it as one.
Yes you can definitely learn so much by reading books and taking courses etc. But you can't go into the deeper mindset issues that could be present inside you.

I also think that because it was a free mentorship, there was less drive and actual perception of value. It puts less of a fire underneath our a$$ than when it's paid.

Just my 2 cents, thanks for sharing!
 

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I also think that because it was a free mentorship, there was less drive and actual perception of value. It puts less of a fire underneath our a$$ than when it's paid.

I find this very interesting. I plan to one-on-one mentor a few people once I get closer to exiting my current business. I had always planned to do it for free but your post suggests that might be a mistake.
 

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A life coach with 7+ years of experience? Is he 8 years old?

Just read a book and stop putting so much faith in what others tell you to do.

And if you want great advice, just ask this forum. It's filled with people who are absolutely killing it in life. I don't know about you but I didn't have to pay to be here either...
 

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A life coach with 7+ years of experience? Is he 8 years old?

Just read a book and stop putting so much faith in what others tell you to do.

And if you want great advice, just ask this forum. It's filled with people who are absolutely killing it in life. I don't know about you but I didn't have to pay to be here either...
Haha, why would he be 8 years old?

I get your point. He's not really a lifecoach (everyone is nowadays), he's a very known personal dev and dating coach, RSD coach.

I've been getting massive value from his free videos and blog posts, but doubting of going the extra mile.

Thanks for the feedback!
 
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Hey @VPchris,

As I coach myself one of the best things I ever did was to hire a good coach that will help me with sales.

I've been through 3 coaches, and I have one now that is taking me to the moon. We are making awesome progress, and creating clients has never been this easy and lucrative.

The key is hiring someone that can really help you get sales, and if you have experienced that this coach can do that for you, go for it.

Also, I want to underline "if you have experienced it". If the conversations are actually useful and generate money for you. I now see coaching as a money printing machine. I put one dollar in, two come out.

Edit: Also, just because he's a good coach, doesn't mean he can teach you sales. Test these waters with him and see if he can help you create clients.
 

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No I haven't, I believe that could be interesting once I get my first client. What do you think?
Getting their first client seems to be a big sticking point for many people. Maybe it would help to create a progress thread sooner rather than later.

For instance, you’re spending time deliberating whether to get a mentor or not, and you’re going to spend money on it.

What if you already know enough?
 

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Getting their first client seems to be a big sticking point for many people. Maybe it would help to create a progress thread sooner rather than later.

For instance, you’re spending time deliberating whether to get a mentor or not, and you’re going to spend money on it.

What if you already know enough?
Very true, sir! Thanks for the value. I think I'm struggling with that exact thing like you say: consuming too much out of the fear that I 'don't know enough yet' and that I'm 'not ready yet'.

I'll have a good thought on this...

Just read the article you included, looks super awesome. will have a read on it.
 

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My advice on BEING a mentor, "you better make sure you are willing to reciprocate the same level of passion in your respective field to your mentee." Or else its a waste of both of yalls times.
 

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Hey @VPchris,

As I coach myself one of the best things I ever did was to hire a good coach that will help me with sales.

I've been through 3 coaches, and I have one now that is taking me to the moon. We are making awesome progress, and creating clients has never been this easy and lucrative.

The key is hiring someone that can really help you get sales, and if you have experienced that this coach can do that for you, go for it.

Also, I want to underline "if you have experienced it". If the conversations are actually useful and generate money for you. I now see coaching as a money printing machine. I put one dollar in, two come out.

Edit: Also, just because he's a good coach, doesn't mean he can teach you sales. Test these waters with him and see if he can help you create clients.
Thanks for sharing your experience with a sales coach. I totally agree on the fact that it should be someone you feel can help you in the way that you would like.

Although many people here are saying the opposite, I'm definitely thinking of getting a coach. But just not right now. I need to get the ball rolling first, get some clients and optimize from there.

It's true that I feel like there's 'more to learn' to be able to 'offer more' but I guess I'm just going to have to cut the crap with myself and start jumping in!

Thanks for your insights.
 

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Get in your car, start it up, put it in to gear yourself. Use a mentor to help steer and accelerate. Make sure he doesn't have a DUI. Dont do it if you cant afford the gas.

My take.
 

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Get in your car, start it up, put it in to gear yourself. Use a mentor to help steer and accelerate. Make sure he doesn't have a DUI. Dont do it if you cant afford the gas.

My take.
Beautiful analogy! Makes perfect sense :) Will do that and open up a progress thread as well.
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Get in your car, start it up, put it in to gear yourself. Use a mentor to help steer and accelerate. Make sure he doesn't have a DUI. Dont do it if you cant afford the gas.

My take.
Exactly.

“You can’t steer a parked car.” (James Schramko)
 

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