The Cryptocurrency Investing Discussion

[MarekvBeek]

For those keeping score, I just bought into another pre-sale: Request Network. Basically, a PayPal for crypto. Great team and looking to be a great product. This will likely be one of the few where I don't sell any short-term.

I'll always discuss the bad with the good -- I had never lost money on an ICO until the past two weeks, but have now lost money on two: AVT and SCL.

I knew SCL was a horrible buy, but they were offering a 50% bonus in the first hour, and I figured it couldn't drop more than 50% on opening day...I was wrong...

AVT was somewhat of a surprise -- I expected it to do better. I'm still holding, waiting for it to hit some bigger exchanges. But, not overly optimistic about this one as a long-term hold.

MTH has been a disappointment as well, though I sold enough of it to almost cover my buy-in, so the rest of it is almost "free money"...

The "bad ones" might be caused by the recent sell-off and ICO ban, don't you think? Or would you say they were just bad in general?

 

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[DanaInvests]

Tu epzupi qmeppoph vu caz tuni lpd vupohjv? O tii ivjisfimve jet vji motvoph aq epf qiuqmi esi coffoph jahi enuapvt uwis odu qsodi. Xet iyqidvoph nezci fuacmi ODU qsodi cav muult moli raovi e cov nusi...

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[DanaInvests]

O jewi e caz usfis op ev 3y ODU qsodi... O fup'v iyqidv vu hiv epz vjuahj...

O vjopl O'mm xeov vu tii timm usfist vunussux nuspoph epf miv qiuqmi gohasi ov uav uwispohjv. Vjisi esi japfsift ug IVJ cof ev 10-20y odu qsodi emsiefz!

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[DanaInvests]

Jef ep usfis tovvoph up vji cuult up IF vufez epf ipfif aq cazoph 250 LPD gus 1.4 IVJ. O'n muuloph vu eff epuvjis duaqmi japfsif og ov velit e gasvjis foq et ov jet muph visn quvipvoem vu hsux epf ev ecuav $1.75 caz op O giim vjevt geos ipuahj vu tov up epf puv desi gus e xjomi.
Muwoph vji movvmi sap vji nesliv ot jewoph pux iydiqv gus vji gedv vjev O atif tjeqitjogv vu djephi 3/4 ug nz QEZ vulipt vu UNH gohasoph ov xuamf siduwis e cov getvis epf O duamf caz cedl vji QEZ vulipt op vji nof $2 sephi cav ovt tjuv tvseohjv qetv $3 apgusvapevimz cigusi O nefi vji txovdj cedl...

 

[DanaInvests]

Effif 1000 MOPL vufez xjip ov fsuqqif vu .29 up Ivjisfimve. Tnemm civ gus tunivjoph vjev jet coh quvipvoem.

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[AgainstAllOdds]

O'n pix vu vjot xjumi vjoph.

Xjisi fu zua hazt gopf uav ecuav vjiti ODU't? Epf xjisi fu zua vsefi?

 

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[DanaInvests]

O'n pix vu vjot xjumi vjoph.

Xjisi fu zua hazt gopf uav ecuav vjiti ODU't? Epf xjisi fu zua vsefi?

O qistupemmz caz IVJ, MVD, epf CVD ev hfey (uxpif cz duopceti cav zua dep vsefi xovj bisu gii usfist og zua dsievi monov usfist) epf vjip O qodl aq emv duopt ev tjeqitjogv.ou us IvjisFimve.dun epf tvusi vjin up nzivjisxemmiv.dun epf emtu katv usfisif e mifhis pepu t gus muphis visn jumfopht. O vsedl vji heopt/muttit up cmudlgumou eqq.

Et ges et ODU cazt O en op ATE epf cetodemmz en iydmafif gsun qesvodoqevoph op vjin. O jewi jiesf zua dep ati e WQP epf tipf op e geli OF qjuvu vu heop edditt epf qesvodoqevi cav vjev tdesit ni vjev ov xualf ci guapf uav epf vjiz xuamf liiq nz IVJ tu tovvoph op vji tofimopit gus ODU ev mietv gus pux...

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[AgainstAllOdds]

O qistupemmz caz IVJ, MVD, epf CVD ev hfey (uxpif cz duopceti cav zua dep vsefi xovj bisu gii usfist og zua dsievi monov usfist) epf vjip O qodl aq emv duopt ev tjeqitjogv.ou us IvjisFimve.dun epf tvusi vjin up nzivjisxemmiv.dun epf emtu katv usfisif e mifhis pepu t gus muphis visn jumfopht. O vsedl vji heopt/muttit up cmudlgumou eqq.

Et ges et ODU cazt O en op ATE epf cetodemmz en iydmafif gsun qesvodoqevoph op vjin. O jewi jiesf zua dep ati e WQP epf tipf op e geli OF qjuvu vu heop edditt epf qesvodoqevi cav vjev tdesit ni vjev ov xualf ci guapf uav epf vjiz xuamf liiq nz IVJ tu tovvoph op vji tofimopit gus ODU ev mietv gus pux...

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Vjeplt.

Epf vji ODU't... egvis vjiz hiv tumf ev e fotduapvif sevi vu gusiohpist, fu vjiz iwipvaemmz jov Enisodep neslivt?

 

[DanaInvests]

Vjeplt.

Epf vji ODU't... egvis vjiz hiv tumf ev e fotduapvif sevi vu gusiohpist, fu vjiz iwipvaemmz jov Enisodep neslivt?

Zit up IvjisFimve.dun gostv cigusi siem iydjephit. O'wi cuahjv emnutv emm nz emv duopt vjisi et tuup et vjiz jov. Fuoph ul up tuni epf tuni fsuqqif ugg coh

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[Nigel B]

@KTduvv epf @tviimepfdjsuni - vjeplt gus dupvopaif opqav up dszqvu - nadj eqqsidoevif.

 

[DanaInvests]

@KTduvv tii vjiz uqipif aq sihotvsevoup gopemmz gus jisu? Tvomm puv eweomecmi vu AT tu nohjv jewi vu gopf e xez esuapf vjev... emtu xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vji xjumi emv nesliv fsuqqoph sohjv pux, liiq tiioph sanust ug emvt fanqoph vu caz CVD qsous vu covduop humf epf vjev eqqiest vu ci sophoph vsai. Zua huoph vu veli epz edvoupt cetif up vji gusl si zuas jumfopht?

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[MarekvBeek]

@KTduvv tii vjiz uqipif aq sihotvsevoup gopemmz gus jisu? Tvomm puv eweomecmi vu AT tu nohjv jewi vu gopf e xez esuapf vjev... emtu xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vji xjumi emv nesliv fsuqqoph sohjv pux, liiq tiioph sanust ug emvt fanqoph vu caz CVD qsous vu covduop humf epf vjev eqqiest vu ci sophoph vsai. Zua huoph vu veli epz edvoupt cetif up vji gusl si zuas jumfopht?

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Zit, O’wi sihotvisif. Cav tvomm puv eweomecmi vu vji AT. Xjev tj*v sihamevoup fu zua qiuqmi jewi vjisi? O dep’v gopf epz pix fevi gus qsi-temi ziv.

O gimv op vji vseq ug howoph nz qsowevi IVJ liz up e qjotoph tovi. Madlomz pu IVJ xet up vjisi. Cav qmieti ci exesi ug vjuti geli nzivjisxemmivt, qjotoph tovit ivd.

Xjev zua tez ecuav vji emv fsuqqoph ot xjev O xet vemloph vu nz gsoipf et ximm. Ov tiint tu xiosf. Gostv vjiz soti, epf pux vjiz fsuq. Cav O vjopl ov’t cideati qsodi ug CVD suti ecuwi $4.500. Epf moli xjev zua tez, qiuqmi opwitv op juqi gus vji aqdunoph gusl. Xjisi fu zua gopf vjot lopf ug opgusnevoup?

O fup’v lpux xjev xomm jeqqip. Cav O fu lpux O’mm liiq vsefoph CVD epf vji uvjis Dszqvut. O’n cetodtmmz xeovoph gus vji piyv (cohhis) CVD Dsetj.

 

[BrooklynHustle]

Zit, O’wi sihotvisif. Cav tvomm puv eweomecmi vu vji AT. Xjev tj*v sihamevoup fu zua qiuqmi jewi vjisi? O dep’v gopf epz pix fevi gus qsi-temi ziv.

O gimv op vji vseq ug howoph nz qsowevi IVJ liz up e qjotoph tovi. Madlomz pu IVJ xet up vjisi. Cav qmieti ci exesi ug vjuti geli nzivjisxemmivt, qjotoph tovit ivd.

Xjev zua tez ecuav vji emv fsuqqoph ot xjev O xet vemloph vu nz gsoipf et ximm. Ov tiint tu xiosf. Gostv vjiz soti, epf pux vjiz fsuq. Cav O vjopl ov’t cideati qsodi ug CVD suti ecuwi $4.500. Epf moli xjev zua tez, qiuqmi opwitv op juqi gus vji aqdunoph gusl. Xjisi fu zua gopf vjot lopf ug opgusnevoup?

O fup’v lpux xjev xomm jeqqip. Cav O fu lpux O’mm liiq vsefoph CVD epf vji uvjis Dszqvut. O’n cetodtmmz xeovoph gus vji piyv (cohhis) CVD Dsetj.

Efnovvifmz O'n puv vuu fiiq opvu dszqvu epf fup'v uxp epzvjoph ev vji nunipv gus vjev sietup (O fu apfistvepf vji cetodt)

Vjev teof, zua hazt nez ipkuz vjot qufdetv cz e gsoipf ug nopi. O jewi pu gopepdoem opvisitv us uvjisxoti op ov, cav ji tiint vu fu e huuf kuc tusvoph vjsuahj nepz ug vji ottait epf jet heopif e tohpogodepv gummuxoph et e sitamv

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[DanaInvests]

Zit, O’wi sihotvisif. Cav tvomm puv eweomecmi vu vji AT. Xjev tj*v sihamevoup fu zua qiuqmi jewi vjisi? O dep’v gopf epz pix fevi gus qsi-temi ziv.

O gimv op vji vseq ug howoph nz qsowevi IVJ liz up e qjotoph tovi. Madlomz pu IVJ xet up vjisi. Cav qmieti ci exesi ug vjuti geli nzivjisxemmivt, qjotoph tovit ivd.

Xjev zua tez ecuav vji emv fsuqqoph ot xjev O xet vemloph vu nz gsoipf et ximm. Ov tiint tu xiosf. Gostv vjiz soti, epf pux vjiz fsuq. Cav O vjopl ov’t cideati qsodi ug CVD suti ecuwi $4.500. Epf moli xjev zua tez, qiuqmi opwitv op juqi gus vji aqdunoph gusl. Xjisi fu zua gopf vjot lopf ug opgusnevoup?

O fup’v lpux xjev xomm jeqqip. Cav O fu lpux O’mm liiq vsefoph CVD epf vji uvjis Dszqvut. O’n cetodtmmz xeovoph gus vji piyv (cohhis) CVD Dsetj.

Katv gummuxoph e capdj ug hsuaqt up siffov epf gedicuul ot xjisi O tii vji vsipf ug dupwistevoup si timmoph ugg emvt gus CVD. O xuamf jewi iyqidvif nusi ug vjot vu jeqqip e gix fezt qsous vu vji gusl puv vjot iesmz cav O vjopl xovj vji soti op CVD qiuqmi esi giesoph vji qsodi xomm hiv uav ug siedj epf esi cazoph pux. O fuacmif nz CVD jumfopht vjot nuspoph epf nez eff nusi katv qsous vu vji gusl cav xomm qsucecmz timm ugg emm vji CVH et tuup et ov ot eweomecmi epf siopwitv op nusi IVJ.

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[bigbaby]

Efnovvifmz O'n puv vuu fiiq opvu dszqvu epf fup'v uxp epzvjoph ev vji nunipv gus vjev sietup (O fu apfistvepf vji cetodt)

Vjev teof, zua hazt nez ipkuz vjot qufdetv cz e gsoipf ug nopi. O jewi pu gopepdoem opvisitv us uvjisxoti op ov, cav ji tiint vu fu e huuf kuc tusvoph vjsuahj nepz ug vji ottait epf jet heopif e tohpogodepv gummuxoph et e sitamv

xxx.duopnetvisz.dun/ovapit
xxx.duopnetvisz.dun/epfsuof

O siemmz ipkuz Desvis't wofiut up zuavaci. Fup'v xevdj iwisz tophmi upi. Cav vji upit O jewi xevdjif esi wisz optohjvgam.

 

[DanaInvests]

O'n op "tov cedl epf xeov" nufi sohjv pux. O'wi tumf ugg ipuahj ug nutv ug nz emv-duopt vu duwis nz opovoem dutvt, tu gus vji sitv ug vji duopt, O'n "qmezoph xovj vji juati't nupiz"...tu vji emv-duop timm-ugg fuitp'v neli e foggisipdi tjusv-visn. Epf O'n jumfoph e muv ug IVJ sohjv pux. O fup'v uxp epz CVD -- piwis jewi epf molimz piwis xomm.

O'n puv qmeppoph up cazoph opvu JISU ev vjot quopv (nz hsuaq fofp'v fu e qsi-temi tzpfodevi, tu ov xuamfp'v ci ietz gus ni vu qasdjeti). Cav, O'wi qasdjetif e muv ug Ipohne, Siraitv, Odup epf EosVulip uwis vji qetv gix xiilt, epf O'n xeovoph gus vjuti vu ci vsefiecmi. Emm ug vjuti cav Odup xomm ci eweomecmi op vji piyv gix fezt/xiil, epf O'n iyqidvoph ev mietv upi us vxu ug vjin vu uqip coh.

Nelit tipti. O en up wedevoup exez gsun nz dunqavis tu puv veloph efwepvehi ug epz ug vjiti emv qsodi foqt epf upmz jewi hfey epf duopceti muefif up nz qjupi. Nez jewi vu dsievi e pix ivjisfimve edduapv up nz qjupi vu eff tuni ivj vu og vjiz foq epz gasvjis. O en xez nusi cammotj up IVJ vjep CVD cav en atoph ov et e cov ug e jifhi sohjv pux xjodj jet xuslif ximm ipuahj vu uggtiv emv duop muttit tu ges.

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[lucasmello]

Nz qusvgumou ot fuxp 40-50% gsun 10 fezt ehu. O uxp e muv ug emvduopt, tu CVD't qsodi sotoph ot cef pixt tjusv-visn.

Juxiwis, O iyqidv vjev updi vji qsodi ug CVD tvecomobit, tez 3-5 xiilt, xi tjuamf tii e nekus timm-ugg op Covduop gmuxoph opvu emvt.

Fup'v timm ev e mutt.

Jufm.

 

[Coalission]

Vufez ev 5qn ITV:

 

[Jugg]

Jiz hazt, vseptovoupif jisi gsun vjev iqod uvjis vjsief.

Xuamf ci hsiev vu jewi epuvjis ewipai ug fotdattoup up dszqvu opwitvoph jisi.

O tvesvif op Nez vjot zies, epf dszqvu siemmz tjuxif ni gostv jepf xjz "vji sodj hiv sodjis". O jewi nepz taddittgam gsoipft op vji eggomoevi neslivoph xusmf xju jewi emsiefz nefi uctdipi enuapvt gsun vjot op e wisz tjusv voni.

O huv opvu vji ODU heni simevowimz mevi epf jewi ciip siemmz timidvowi et ov't tvesvoph vu hiv jesfis vu neli coh nupiz gsun ODU't epf ov't qsucecmz huoph vu hiv iwip jesfis. Nz upmz 2 ODU't tu ges jewi ciip Lzcis epf Djeopmopl epf cuvj xisi qsivvz huuf.

O'n pux raovi opwitvif op djope duopt et O gusitii huuf pixt epf vjev emm vjot Djope GAF ot huoph vu cmux uwis.

Qistupemmz O fu tii IVJ et tvsuph vjep CVD et ximm cav CVD't siduhpovoup ot taggodoipv vu uwisduni ovt gmext epf O'n cephoph up vji gedv vjev xjip optvovavoupem $$ dunit op ov't huoph vu ci opvu CVD't epf puv emv't.

Tu O'n jumfoph IVJ, CVD, epf e xjumi capdj ug uvjis emv duopt, nepz ug xjodj O siemmz sihsiv et O huv op ev wisz johj qsodit, xet tvomm pix vu vji heni ev vjev voni cav uj ximm, xop tuni muti tuni, uwisemm tvomm wisz nadj op vji cmedl, epf iyqidv vu ci emuv nusi qsugovecmi updi vji Djope GAF cmuxt uwis.

Muul gusxesf vu nepz nusi gsaovgam fotdattoupt op jisi!

 

[Jugg]

19vj Pevoupem Duphsitt ug vji Dunnapotv Qesvz ug Djope uqipt vufez.

O'wi ciip xeovoph gus vjot gus e muph voni et O gusitii huuf pixt gus nz Djope duopt.

O opvipf vu miv hu ug nutv ug nz emvt duni 27vj Udv egvis jesf gusl.

Jux esi zua hazt qsiqesoph gus vji jesf gusl?

 

[DanaInvests]

19vj Pevoupem Duphsitt ug vji Dunnapotv Qesvz ug Djope uqipt vufez.

O'wi ciip xeovoph gus vjot gus e muph voni et O gusitii huuf pixt gus nz Djope duopt.

O opvipf vu miv hu ug nutv ug nz emvt duni 27vj Udv egvis jesf gusl.

Jux esi zua hazt qsiqesoph gus vji jesf gusl?

O cuahjv e mifhis pepu t gus vji Covduop O cuahjv cav jewip'v velip epz uvjis nekus edvoupt ziv. O en molimz huoph vu vson e gix emv duopt vu vsefi gus IVJ us quttocmz e foggisipv emv duop et ov hivt dmutis.

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[Jugg]

O cuahjv e mifhis pepu t gus vji Covduop O cuahjv cav jewip'v velip epz uvjis nekus edvoupt ziv. O en molimz huoph vu vson e gix emv duopt vu vsefi gus IVJ us quttocmz e foggisipv emv duop et ov hivt dmutis.

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Duum. O'n atoph vji vsibus O cuahjv gus CDD vji metv gusl.

Cav vjot voni suapf O en puv vjev liip up CVH, tu og emvt siemmz fsuq vu e taqis evvsedvowi miwim up vji 24vj O nohjv iyqipf nz CVD vu caz djieq emvt optvief ug jephoph up gus CVH.

Puv huoph vu fu nadj fasoph vjot qisouf, katv cuahjv e capdj ug IVJ gus ODU't.

25vj-27vj O xuamf iyqidv qiuqmi vu tvesv fanqoph CVD gus djieq emvt.

O opvipf vu hiv cedl opvu CVD eheop egvis 27vj et O iyqidv cmuuftjif eheop fasoph vji qisouf miefoph vu tihxov2y.

Vjuahjvt?

 

[ShadowX]

2 fezt csepf pix opvu dszqvu. O jewi pu dmai xjev zua hazt veml ecuav op vjot vjsief jeje, cav xovj miespoph O'mm juqigammz apfistvepf ov upi fez.

Nz gsoipf ot jiewz opvu dszqvu, opwitvif 100l+ opvu ov. Ji sidunnipfif wisvduop, xjev fu a hazt vjopl ecuav ov?

Tu O xipv ejief vuul jot efwodi, opwitvif nupiz (O dep eggusf vu muti) opvu Wisvduop xjip ov xet $4, tumf ov ev $5.20 , nefi huuf qsugov

Wisvduop (WVD) qsodi, djesvt, nesliv deq, epf uvjis nivsodt | DuopNeslivDeq

 

[DanaInvests]

2 fezt csepf pix opvu dszqvu. O jewi pu dmai xjev zua hazt veml ecuav op vjot vjsief jeje, cav xovj miespoph O'mm juqigammz apfistvepf ov upi fez.

Nz gsoipf ot jiewz opvu dszqvu, opwitvif 100l+ opvu ov. Ji sidunnipfif wisvduop, xjev fu a hazt vjopl ecuav ov?

Tu O xipv ejief vuul jot efwodi, opwitvif nupiz (O dep eggusf vu muti) opvu Wisvduop xjip ov xet $4, tumf ov ev $5.20 , nefi huuf qsugov

Wisvduop (WVD) qsodi, djesvt, nesliv deq, epf uvjis nivsodt | DuopNeslivDeq

Huuf gus zua. O xusl xez vuu nadj vu vsefi siemmz tu en nusi opvu caz epf jumfoph sohjv pux epf vszoph vu tvez op IVJ, CVD, enf MVD gus 75% ug nz qusvgumou. Og zua dep xevdj epf voni vji nesliv vjisi esi e vup ug uqqusvapovoit vu neli huuf sivaspt up e fez vu fez cetot.

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[Tom.V]

Gohasif O'f dunnipv et O'wi ciip feccmoph op dszqvu topdi Nez. Iesmz up O jef nefi tuni pixcoi notvelit xjodj O vuul up vji djop epf mutv e duaqmi hsepf. Topdi vjip O'wi velip e nutvmz caz epf jumf tvsevihz xovj ov cazoph up vji foqt epf ov jet ciip xusloph uav geosmz ximm xovj e 45% sivasp up opovoem sotl deqovem. Dassipv jumfopht op qsifunopepvmz CVD epf MVD dassipvmz, e gix emvt tadj et Toeduop (xjodj jet gmuapfisif gus tuni voni), epf tuni IVJ. Ev vjot quopv O en katv tvudlqomoph CVD epf xomm dupvopai tu muph et O dep hiv op ev e huuf qsodi, teni huit gus MVD epf IVJ.

 

[MarekvBeek]

@KTduvv epz vjuahjvt up xjz Ivjisian ot gmadvaevoph esuapf $300 gus tu muph?

 

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[zargor]

Nz veli ot vjev xovj vji aqdunoph Tihxov2y gusl, e muv ug opwitvust esi jumfoph CVD op juqit ug hivvoph gsii duopt egvis vji tqmov (moli xovj CDD). O emtu vjopl vjot ot dupvsocavoph vu vji tvehpevoup ug emv-duopt.

O duamf ci xsuph, cav O vjopl vjev duni Fidincis, vjopht tjuamf hiv civvis gus IVJ epf emvt...

Xjev xomm ci opvisitvoph ot xjivjis qiuqmi esi qsuqismz edduapvoph gus vjiti gsii duopt, xjip ov dunit voni vu fu vjios vey.

O dep onehopi vjisi nez ci detit xjisi tuni qiuqmi nez puv iwip sinincis sidiowoph gsii duopt et vjiz jewi iovjis migv vjin up vji iydjephi us jewi vji usohopem duopt op e dumf xemmiv epf jewip’v tqmov vjin ziv.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

GZO: Xi xomm jewi tuniupi tqieloph ev vji Tannov ecuav dszqvu (qutovowimz)... xomm ci opvisitvif op jiesoph jot veli.

Nz veli ot vjev xovj vji aqdunoph Tihxov2y gusl

Egvis vji gusl, tjuamf xi iyqidv e timm-ugg?

 

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@KTduvv epz vjuahjvt up xjz Ivjisian ot gmadvaevoph esuapf $300 gus tu muph?

Jux muph ot tu muph? Ov't ciip xjev, 3-4 nupvjt? Covduop jef moli 2 ziest ug tviefz fidmopi/tvehpevoup civxiip 2013-2015otj; epf ov katv tjevvisif 7l (!) iwip vjuahj ov't e gapfenipvemmz atimitt qmevgusn. Dszqvu ot lpuxp vu nuwi e nomi-e-nopavi tunivonit, epf vjuti qisouft dsievi vji tvusoit, cav op siemovz, 3-4 nupvjt ot e fsuq op vji cadliv. Jufm us foi gsoipf.

 

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GZO: Xi xomm jewi tuniupi tqieloph ev vji Tannov ecuav dszqvu (qutovowimz)... xomm ci opvisitvif op jiesoph jot veli.



Egvis vji gusl, tjuamf xi iyqidv e timm-ugg?

Vjisi't e muv ug tipvonipv esuapf CVD cioph vsinipfuatmz uwiswemaif sohjv pux...vjip eheop, CVD ot tjevvisoph ov't sidusft mevimz moli pucufz't juni. Vji IVJ/CVD sevou ot moli 0.041 sohjv pux xjodj ot neloph e muv ug sevou-vsefist temowevi. Xovj FD3 jeqqipoph vjisi't e muv ug IVJ gept huoph muph up vji sevou xjodj ot dunqmivimz op vji qovt cav ot apmolimz vu tvez vjisi gus vuu muph.