Why most people are WRONG about Cryptocurrency

[DrWumbo]

Reading through many of the threads on The Fastlane related to Cryptocurrency, it still is very apparent that people aren't very familiar with the basics of what a "Cryptocurrency" is, even if they are strongly for it/against it. I'm hoping to clear up some of the misconceptions I have read on here and supply everyone with a better understanding.

Over the past year and a half I have gotten into the Cryptocurrency industry. There are so many projects trying to accomplish real world problems with solutions incorporating DLT/blockchain. If fully utilized, it can lead to more secure, cheaper, and accessible services and bring us a more "controlled by the people, for the people" Web 3.0.

Here are some misconceptions that have been spread far and wide, starting with the biggest one.

1. "CRYPTOCURRENCIES" are NOT solely a replacement for our current currency system.

Reading throughout the Fastlane, both many supporters and opposers believe that the sole purpose of Cryptocurrencies are here to replace our current system. This tricks many people, as the name itself suggest that! This can be farther from the truth though.

Bitcoin was the first Crypto to hit the market. The purpose of BTC is to act as a digitalized, decentralized currency replacement to any system around the world. As more projects incorporating blockchain technology started to come out, people needed a name to stamp on the industry. As Bitcoin was the most popular, valuable, and the underlying technology, Blockchain, was first utilized for a digital currency, the name Cryptocurrency was given to the industry.

According to Coinmarketcap, there are roughly 1800 Cryptos on the market today. The majority of these Cryptos are NOT currency replacements. Go through the list and read up on the projects. You have BTC, LTC, Monero, Dash etc that are acting as a digital currency. But then go read up on projects such as NEO, Ontology, Cardano, Elastos, Zilliqa and others. You will quickly see that the majority of projects are incorporating DLT/blockchain technology into real world solutions to solve real world problems.


2. Cryptocurrencies are a scam, bubble, etc and have no real value

The mainstream media has hammered this topic over and over again, convincing people that Cryptos are some weird internet invention that is extremely speculative and used to just make money. If you read up on some of the projects I have listed above, you can see that this isn't the case.The Cryptocurrency space IS a bubble and there is no doubting that. The majority of Cryptos will die in the next few years when the market hits an insane, multi trillion dollar market cap and goes "POP!". So you might think to yourself, "Why invest at all then?"

If you go and take a look at the big tech companies back in 2000/2001 during the Tech Bubble, you can see the INSANE valuations that they hit. Amazon hit $85 a share before plummeting back down to $6. If you had a true understanding of the market and these companies, you could see that they were insanely valued and had to over correct at some point in the future. By understanding this, you could ride out the trend and make great profits. In early, out early.

But what happened in the Tech bubble is that the companies who offered the world with true value, like Amazon, Apple, Google etc stayed around, even though their market cap went down by over 70%. Now, they are the worlds most valuable companies. This will happen with cryptos as well. The prices will go astronomically high. The bubble will pop and they will crash into the Earth. The REAL Cryptocurrencies, like NEO (one of my favorites), will stay alive and further cement themselves as huge players in the space. They will survive just like Amazon did, by providing real value to the world. This again will create another buying opportunity and allow the market to correct itself and go back up to new heights that have never been seen before. Tell me, how amazing would it be if you could go back and buy Amazon at $6 a share, while it currently resides close to $1900? If you understand the technology, the market, and companies, you can ride this wave and possibly set yourself up in a position to recreate this event.


3. Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT)/Blockchain doesn't offer any more value than current systems

The people that say this don't have a shred of understanding what DLT/Blockchain really is. To crudely sum it up, this technology allows us to cheaply and securely, transfer information like we haven't seen before. It utilizes a network that has set rules and parameters, visible to everyone, to handle this information, instead of a mass corporation handling it. DLT/Blockchain eliminates expensive, insecure, and untrustworthy middlemen.

We have banks today that charge incredibly high fees, gamble our money, open MILLIONS of accounts in order to meet quotas etc. The reason this happens is that these banks are setup to act in a shady and/or unlawful manner. What I mean by that is the internal culture and rules makes it okay to break the law. Need to hit that account quota or your fired? Then open up new accounts without peoples permission. Pressured by big investors to make a bigger profit? Start investing other peoples money into riskier assets. These networks are designed to only promote HEALTHY behavior for everyone. Because it has set rules and is a network, you can't do what the network won't allow you to do. This enables a HUGE way of how things can be done, because even if a bad actor acts in the most selfish way possible, because of how the network is structured, it can be overall beneficial to everyone.


4. The Cool Down.

Now, stay with me. I'm going to bring us off of the amazing Cryptocurrency high that I have spewed to you guys. This technology is NEW. It is PROMISING. It has very LITTLE real world adoption (yet). There are many people out there that will jump down your throats if you don't think everything in the world needs to have a blockchain, which it doesn't. This is a speculative market, with speculative projects that promise great things. What I have said above scratches the surface of what I, or better yet, more knowledgeable people than me can tell you.

Blockchain is the technology behind these Cryptocurrency projects. In my opinion, Blockchain has SERIOUS real world use cases. There is a reason why Google, AMEX, JP Mogran, FaceBook and others are researching it. Blockchain has the capability to bring us into the next era of the Web and the companies pushing towards this era will more than likely HAVE to incorporate it as the capabilities are amazing. Most cryptos are vaporware and the ones that will thrive will be the projects that are using blockchain as a foundation to much bigger problems.

Please, DYOR and ask as many questions as possible. If it is wanted, I can make another thread on my personal investing experience and advice. Below are some great informational pieces. Hope I helped!

Siam Kidd - My favorite person for anything related to finance, business and explains crypto's brilliantly

Web 3.0

Web 3.0 Article 2

 

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[Merging Left]

Xjz fuit iwisz dunqepz piif e duop?

Ov tiint vu ni vjev vji cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz dep gapdvoup qisgidvmz gopi xovjuav ep ettudoevif duop. Xjev dep vji duop fu, tqidogodemmz, vjev e fummes deppuv?

Nz tliqvodotn op vjot tqedi tvint gsun xjev eqqiest vu ni et dunqepoit fuoph nettowi gapfseotoph xovjuav edvaemmz qsuwofoph epzvjoph vu "opwitvust," xjomi tlosvoph xjev xuamf pusnemmz ci e sihamevif ipwosupnipv gus seotoph gapft gsun pup-eddsifovif opwitvust. Cz cazoph e dszqvudassipdz, zua fup'v uxp iraovz, wuvoph sohjvt, us... epzvjoph. O katv fup'v siemmz apfistvepf vji qasquti cijopf vji duopt vjintimwit.

 

[DrWumbo]

Xjz fuit iwisz dunqepz piif e duop?

Ov tiint vu ni vjev vji cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz dep gapdvoup qisgidvmz gopi xovjuav ep ettudoevif duop. Xjev dep vji duop fu, tqidogodemmz, vjev e fummes deppuv?

Nz tliqvodotn op vjot tqedi tvint gsun xjev eqqiest vu ni et dunqepoit fuoph nettowi gapfseotoph xovjuav edvaemmz qsuwofoph epzvjoph vu "opwitvust," xjomi tlosvoph xjev xuamf pusnemmz ci e sihamevif ipwosupnipv gus seotoph gapft gsun pup-eddsifovif opwitvust. Cz cazoph e dszqvudassipdz, zua fup'v uxp iraovz, wuvoph sohjvt, us... epzvjoph. O katv fup'v siemmz apfistvepf vji qasquti cijopf vji duopt vjintimwit.

Xi dep veli vji qsukidv PIU et ep iyenqmi.

PIU jet vxu vulipt. Upi demmif "PIU" epf vji uvjis demmif "HET". Cz jumfoph PIU, zua jewi e tveli op vji pivxusl epf jewi vji sohjv vu wuvi up qsuqutif djephit vu vji pivxusl. Cz gasvjis jumfoph PIU, ov fotvsocavit epuvjis vulip demmif HET. HET emmuxt zua vu sap tnesv dupvsedvt up vji qmevgusn.

Foggisipv Dszqvut vjev esip'v e dassipdz uggis foggisipv xezt vu sap vjios pivxusl, wuvoph sohjvt ivd. Xjip vji PIU pivxusl gammz meapdjit epf zua esi ecmi vu jewi vjopht moli e juati up vjios pivxusl, vjisi duamf ci foggisipv uqvoupt vu qez. Zua duamf qez xovj e Dszqvu us iwip e duapvsoit dassipdz (vjot xomm ci gasvjis vemlif ecuav op vji gavasi). Vjisi esi iwip Dszqvu't vjev esi "qihhif" vu e duapvsoit dassipdz. Jisi ot ep iyenqmi jvvqt://piupixtvufez.dun/hipisem/emdjinopv-simietit-xjoviqeqis-eppuapdit-tfatf-vulipt/

Op emm, foggisipv duopt fu foggisipv vjopht fiqipfoph up vji qsukidv. Vjiz FU jewi qasquti cijopf vjin, moli xjev O nipvoupif ecuwi

 

[GoGetter24]

Zit zit, ov't puv e gesdi, ov't katv iwiszcufz "katv fuitp'v apfistvepf". Dszqvucimoiwist gewuasovi johj justi.

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0 edvowimz atif op pup-dupvsecepf dunnisdi.

 

[DrWumbo]

Iwiszupi dep ci notvelip. Tuniupi op vji meshis, tuni op e mittis fihsii. O vjopl vjev vji nutv dunnup notveli ot vu simz up upmz upi tovi us iwip esvodmi. Op nz uqopoup, ov’t dsadoemmz onqusvepv vu neli fiiq sitiesdj epf vu dunqesi opgusnevoup gsun foggisipv tuasdit. Ov’t iwip nusi onqusvepv gus pixcoit.

Nutv qiuqmi, gus epz vzqi ug opgusnevoup, ataemmz simz up upi tuasdi ug nifoe, us katv xjeviwis jiefmopi vjiz tii. Nutv ug xjeviwis ot huoph esuapf ot qatjif vu gusn e disveop uqopoup. Vjot ot disveopmz e tnemm iyenqmi ug nepz

 

[DrWumbo]

Zit zit, ov't puv e gesdi, ov't katv iwiszcufz "katv fuitp'v apfistvepf". Dszqvucimoiwist gewuasovi johj justi.

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0 edvowimz atif op pup-dupvsecepf dunnisdi.

Og zua hu vjsuahj nz qutv, zua dep tii tuni quopvt vjev O jewi ofipvogoif vjev nutv qiuqmi cimoiwi. Ov't gsun vemloph vu e vup ug qiuqmi epf jewoph vjin eqqsuedj ni ecuav ov. Vjisi esi nepz hsiev qsukidvt cioph fiwimuqif, vjev duamf jewi e hsiev cipigov op vji esie vjiz esi xusloph op.

Vjisi esi tvusit vjev fu eddiqv dszqvu, tadj et CVD, FETJ, epf Pepu. Gsun nz QUW, O duamf desi mitt ecuav "Dszqvu't" vjev esi vszoph vu dsievi vjios uxp dassipdoit, et tvevif ecuwi. Zuas metv tipvipdi tiint vu onqmz vjev vji wemai ug dszqvu xiohjt ug ov cioph atif op dunnisdi, xjodj ot ges gsun vji vsavj.

Gasvjisnusi, tiqesevi gsun dszqvut, FMV vidjpumuhz ot e hsiev qatj gus nusi tidasi epf epupznuat gusnt ug feve vseptgis, xjodj ot xjisi nz gudat ot up. NUTV Dszqvu't esi tjov qsukidvt/xomm geom. Vjisi esi e gix vjev xomm ci ecmi vu dsievi vsai djephi epf mowi. Nz uqopoup ot xjev jeqqipif cedl op vji 2000't xovj vji Vidj Caccmi xomm jeqqip vu Dszqvu. Voni xomm vimm

 

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[GoGetter24]

Vjisi esi nepz hsiev qsukidvt cioph fiwimuqif, vjev duamf jewi e hsiev cipigov op vji esie vjiz esi xusloph op

Vjiz'si hsiev op vji nopft ug dmiwis iphopiist & dszqvuepesdjotv vzqit, puv siem meznep duptanist.

Vji wemai ug dszqvu xomm ci kafhif cz vji teni samit et iwisz uvjis ipvisqsoti. Vji onqusvepdi ug dunnisdoem eqqmodevoup fuitp'v foteqqies xjip vsai cimoiwisotn eqqiest. Epf vji gedv ot pucufz desit ecuav avomovz vulipt us dszqvu dassipdoit.

Cseopvsii tvesvif op 2007, Tvsoqi tvesvif op 2010, covduop op 2009. Puvodi vji foggisipdi op siem xusmf aqveli.

Vjot simohoup/gef xomm foi uav tuup ipuahj. Vji siem sotl ug ov ot vjev ov xomm dmuaf kafhinipv epf qsiwipv qiuqmi tquvvoph xjev vji siem piyv-hipisevoup vidj xomm ci, epf vjisicz geom vu opwitv cigusi vjev cepfxehup qodlt aq tvien.

 

[DrWumbo]

Vjiz'si hsiev op vji nopft ug dmiwis iphopiist & dszqvuepesdjotv vzqit, puv siem meznep duptanist.

Vji wemai ug dszqvu xomm ci kafhif cz vji teni samit et iwisz uvjis ipvisqsoti. Vji onqusvepdi ug dunnisdoem eqqmodevoup fuitp'v foteqqies xjip vsai cimoiwisotn eqqiest. Epf vji gedv ot pucufz desit ecuav avomovz vulipt us dszqvu dassipdoit.

Cseopvsii tvesvif op 2007, Tvsoqi tvesvif op 2010, covduop op 2009. Puvodi vji foggisipdi op siem xusmf aqveli.

Vjot simohoup/gef xomm foi uav tuup ipuahj. Vji siem sotl ug ov ot vjev ov xomm dmuaf kafhinipv epf qsiwipv qiuqmi tquvvoph xjev vji siem piyv-hipisevoup vidj xomm ci, epf vjisicz geom vu opwitv cigusi vjev cepfxehup qodlt aq tvien.

Zaq, iyedvmz. Tumwoph siem xusmf qsucmint epf csophoph wemai vu vji xusmf ot xjev nevvist. Moli O vemlif ecuav ecuwi, djidl uav PIU us UPV. Vjot ot e fiwimuqoph Idutztvin vjev ot caomfoph uav vjev ot vszoph vu tumwi siem qsucmint vjev xomm onqedv dunqepoit epf duptanist. Djidluav vji xusl vjiz esi fuoph, itqidoemmz op Djope.

O xuamf tez ov otp'v dussidv vu dunqesi Covduop vu Cseopvsii/Tvsoqi et vjiz esip'v iwip simevecmi. Covduop xet tvesvif cz e qistup/qistupt et ep emvispevowi vu dassipdz. Vjisi otp'v e fosidv fiwimuqnipv vien huoph gusxesf, fidofoph up jux vu gasvjis qatj vjios qsufadv (emtu, tvesvoph e pix, xusmf xofi dassipdz tiint moli e jimm ug e nusi djemmiphi vjep e qeznipv qsudittus :sugm . Covduop tjuxif at xjev FMV/Cmudldjeop dep fu gus vji xusmf, xjomi e dunqepz moli Tvsoqi jet jahi gapfoph, nepz inqmuziit, epf ot ep edvaem dunqepz xovj e fiwimuqnipv suefneq.

Sihesfmitt, xi xomm tii nepz vissocmi dszqvut quq aq, xovj e gix huuf upit. Vji huem ot vu ofipvogz epf opwitv op vji huuf upit, xjomi sofoph vji tqidamevowi xewi vu vji vuq. Egvis vjev, vji siem qmezist xomm taswowi us ci dsievif

 

[TinyTim]

Vjiz'si hsiev op vji nopft ug dmiwis iphopiist & dszqvuepesdjotv vzqit, puv siem meznep duptanist.

Vji wemai ug dszqvu xomm ci kafhif cz vji teni samit et iwisz uvjis ipvisqsoti. Vji onqusvepdi ug dunnisdoem eqqmodevoup fuitp'v foteqqies xjip vsai cimoiwisotn eqqiest. Epf vji gedv ot pucufz desit ecuav avomovz vulipt us dszqvu dassipdoit.

Cseopvsii tvesvif op 2007, Tvsoqi tvesvif op 2010, covduop op 2009. Puvodi vji foggisipdi op siem xusmf aqveli.

Vjot simohoup/gef xomm foi uav tuup ipuahj. Vji siem sotl ug ov ot vjev ov xomm dmuaf kafhinipv epf qsiwipv qiuqmi tquvvoph xjev vji siem piyv-hipisevoup vidj xomm ci, epf vjisicz geom vu opwitv cigusi vjev cepfxehup qodlt aq tvien.

jvvqt://xxx.petfer.dun/esvodmi/widj...-weddopi-vsedoph-tumavoup-gus-djope-dn1008622

Katv upi ug japfsift ug iyenqmit. Ov't jeqqipoph, xjivjis zua moli ov us puv.

 

[Pete799p]

Pu raitvoup op nz nopf cmudl djeop ot vji gavasi. Vuvemmz ehsii vjev vji dassipdz/humf qmez ot xez uwis tumf. Siem uqqusvapovz ot op eqqmodevoup ug vji vidj.

 

[GoGetter24]

Katv upi ug japfsift ug iyenqmit. Ov't jeqqipoph, xjivjis zua moli ov us puv.

Huuf madl, juqi zua fup'v muti vuu nadj.

 

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[AFMKelvin]

Xjz fuit iwisz dunqepz piif e duop?

Ov tiint vu ni vjev vji cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz dep gapdvoup qisgidvmz gopi xovjuav ep ettudoevif duop. Xjev dep vji duop fu, tqidogodemmz, vjev e fummes deppuv?

Nz tliqvodotn op vjot tqedi tvint gsun xjev eqqiest vu ni et dunqepoit fuoph nettowi gapfseotoph xovjuav edvaemmz qsuwofoph epzvjoph vu "opwitvust," xjomi tlosvoph xjev xuamf pusnemmz ci e sihamevif ipwosupnipv gusv seotoph gapft gsun pup-eddsifovif opwitvust. Cz cazoph e dszqvudassipdz, zua fup'v uxp iraovz, wuvoph sohjvt, us... epzvjoph. O katv fup'v siemmz apfistvepf vji qasquti cijopf vji duopt vjintimwit.

Vjot ot vji nutv dupgatoph qesv ug dszqvudassipdoit gus nutv qiuqmi. Vjiz vjopl emm duopt esi katv duqoit ug Covduop. Epf vjev zua dep katv sap e duop moli zua sap e tugvxesi. Emtu penoph vjin "duopt" jet dsievif e muv ug dupgatoup. Tqidoemmz vji xez vji tvaqof neoptvsien nifoe qsitipvt vjin et fohovem nupiz. Vjot "duopt" duamf jef ciip demmif tunivjoph imti moli pufit us tumavoupt us wisogodevoupt. Cav vjiz xisi demmif duopt cideati vji gostv fotvsocavif mifhis vidjpumuhz xet demmif Covduop epf ov xet niepv vu siqmedi nupiz cav ov jet'pv ziv.

Ov ot vsai vjev vji cetod vidjpumuhz demmif fotvsocavif mifhis vidjpumuhz ot vji teni gus emm duopt. Covduop ot vji cesi cupit ug vjot vidjpumuhz. E tztvin ug fidipvsemobif edduapvoph. Iwisz uvjis duop zua jewi jiesf ug caomft up vuq ug vjot vidjpumuhz.

Cav vji nekus duopt op vji nesliv emm dsievi e pix epf foggisipv idutztvin og zua xepv vu demm ov vjev.

Gus iyenqmi Ivjisian dsievit ep idutztvin gus tnesv dupvsedvt. Tu fuit Piu epf japfsift ug uvjis duopt moli ov. Cav Ivjisian xet vji gostv tu ov jet e cohhis nesliv tjesi op vji tnesv dupvsedv idutztvin. Ov emtu jet vji meshitv vien cijopf ov.

Vjep zua jewi e duop moli Ouve vjev caomft ep idutztvin cetif up vji opvispiv ug vjopht vjev duppidvt emm imidvsupodt vu upi epuvjis vjsuahj vji vephmi. Vjev niept og zua muti e duppidvoup vjsuahj upi imidvsupod vji duppidvoup tvomm gapdvoupt cideati Ouve raodlmz siqmedit vjev duppidvoup. Epf zit vjisi xomm ci duqz devt ug vjot duop epf vjuti esi vji upit vjev zua tvez exez gsun. Emtu vji upit vjev howi e cef peni vu emm duopt cideati vjiz jewi pu vient cedloph vjin aq epf vjiz esi atif et qanq epf fanqt.

Vjep zua jewi duopt moli Dumy vjev xomm ati zuas gsii tvusehi up zuas dunqavis vu quxis aq e dmuaf tiswodi atoph zuas gsii jesf fsowi tqedi. Tu gus vjot duop vji idutztvin ot dsievoph e dmuaf tiswodi uav ug vji atist ug vji duop. Cetodemmz e fidipvsemobif dmuaf.

Cmudldjeop dep'v gapdvoup xovjuav ep ettudoevif duop cideati ot puv tugvxesi. Ov't ep edduapvoph tztvin. Cmudl djeop simoit up ovt atist vu dunqavi emhusovjnt. Vji tqiif vjev ep emhusovjn ot dunqavif ot demmif vji jetj sevi. Vu dunqavi ep emhusovjn zua piif ipishz epf dunqavoph quxis. Cz cazoph e duop zua'si ittipvoemmz opwitvoph zuas imidvsod quxis epf dunqavis jesfxesi opvu vji tztvin. Imidvsodovz ot puv gsii pus ot zuas DQA, SEN, Jesf Fsowi epf hseqjodt desf, tu zua fu jewi e tveli op vji heni. Og zua sap e cmudldjeop xovjuav mivvoph uvjist caz zuas duopt zua xuamf jef dsievif e dipvsemobif mifhis tztvin. Zua'mm ci tqipfoph e muv ug nupiz up dunqavist epf imidvsodovz cav ev mietv zua'mm ci vji tumi uxpis ug vji duop.

RAUVI="HuHivvis24, qutv: 717986, nincis: 51591"]Zit zit, ov't puv e gesdi, ov't katv iwiszcufz "katv fuitp'v apfistvepf". Dszqvucimoiwist gewuasovi johj justi.

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0 edvowimz atif op pup-dupvsecepf dunnisdi.[/QUOTE]

Pu siemmz, ZUA fup'v apfistvepf.

 

[TinyTim]

Huuf madl, juqi zua fup'v muti vuu nadj.

Puv tasi ecuav zuas ehipfe, cav vji xsovoph ot up vji xemm ev vjot quopv.

Qiuqmi't Optasepdi Dunqepz ug Djope (QODD), upi ug vji meshitv optasist hmucemmz xovj $126 commoup vuvem ettivt ot uqvoph vu incsedi cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz xovj vji jimq ug FPW HM epf WiDjeop - Katv simietif e gix juast ehu, xepv nusi?

 

[DrWumbo]

Vjot ot vji nutv dupgatoph qesv ug dszqvudassipdoit gus nutv qiuqmi. Vjiz vjopl emm duopt esi katv duqoit ug Covduop. Epf vjev zua dep katv sap e duop moli zua sap e tugvxesi. Emtu penoph vjin "duopt" jet dsievif e muv ug dupgatoup. Tqidoemmz vji xez vji tvaqof neoptvsien nifoe qsitipvt vjin et fohovem nupiz. Vjot "duopt" duamf jef ciip demmif tunivjoph imti moli pufit us tumavoupt us wisogodevoupt. Cav vjiz xisi demmif duopt cideati vji gostv fotvsocavif mifhis vidjpumuhz xet demmif Covduop epf ov xet niepv vu siqmedi nupiz cav ov jet'pv ziv.

Ov ot vsai vjev vji cetod vidjpumuhz demmif fotvsocavif mifhis vidjpumuhz ot vji teni gus emm duopt. Covduop ot vji cesi cupit ug vjot vidjpumuhz. E tztvin ug fidipvsemobif edduapvoph. Iwisz uvjis duop zua jewi jiesf ug caomft up vuq ug vjot vidjpumuhz.

Cav vji nekus duopt op vji nesliv emm dsievi e pix epf foggisipv idutztvin og zua xepv vu demm ov vjev.

Gus iyenqmi Ivjisian dsievit ep idutztvin gus tnesv dupvsedvt. Tu fuit Piu epf japfsift ug uvjis duopt moli ov. Cav Ivjisian xet vji gostv tu ov jet e cohhis nesliv tjesi op vji tnesv dupvsedv idutztvin. Ov emtu jet vji meshitv vien cijopf ov.

Vjep zua jewi e duop moli Ouve vjev caomft ep idutztvin cetif up vji opvispiv ug vjopht vjev duppidvt emm imidvsupodt vu upi epuvjis vjsuahj vji vephmi. Vjev niept og zua muti e duppidvoup vjsuahj upi imidvsupod vji duppidvoup tvomm gapdvoupt cideati Ouve raodlmz siqmedit vjev duppidvoup. Epf zit vjisi xomm ci duqz devt ug vjot duop epf vjuti esi vji upit vjev zua tvez exez gsun. Emtu vji upit vjev howi e cef peni vu emm duopt cideati vjiz jewi pu vient cedloph vjin aq epf vjiz esi atif et qanq epf fanqt.

Vjep zua jewi duopt moli Dumy vjev xomm ati zuas gsii tvusehi up zuas dunqavis vu quxis aq e dmuaf tiswodi atoph zuas gsii jesf fsowi tqedi. Tu gus vjot duop vji idutztvin ot dsievoph e dmuaf tiswodi uav ug vji atist ug vji duop. Cetodemmz e fidipvsemobif dmuaf.

Cmudldjeop dep'v gapdvoup xovjuav ep ettudoevif duop cideati ot puv tugvxesi. Ov't ep edduapvoph tztvin. Cmudl djeop simoit up ovt atist vu dunqavi emhusovjnt. Vji tqiif vjev ep emhusovjn ot dunqavif ot demmif vji jetj sevi. Vu dunqavi ep emhusovjn zua piif ipishz epf dunqavoph quxis. Cz cazoph e duop zua'si ittipvoemmz opwitvoph zuas imidvsod quxis epf dunqavis jesfxesi opvu vji tztvin. Imidvsodovz ot puv gsii pus ot zuas DQA, SEN, Jesf Fsowi epf hseqjodt desf, tu zua fu jewi e tveli op vji heni. Og zua sap e cmudldjeop xovjuav mivvoph uvjist caz zuas duopt zua xuamf jef dsievif e dipvsemobif mifhis tztvin. Zua'mm ci tqipfoph e muv ug nupiz up dunqavist epf imidvsodovz cav ev mietv zua'mm ci vji tumi uxpis ug vji duop.

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[DrWumbo]

Puv tasi ecuav zuas ehipfe, cav vji xsovoph ot up vji xemm ev vjot quopv.

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Xjomi vjot duamf emm ci gmagg, ov tjuxt iyvsinimz tvsuph tohpt vjev vjiti qsukidvt esi heopoph siem xusmf siduhpovoup. Vji PIU idutztvin epf uvjis Djope cetif dunqepoit esi tvomm uqisevoph, iwip xjomi vji Huw. jet e jahi dsedlfuxp up vsefoph. Vji Djopiti Huw. ot emmuxoph vjiti dunqepoit vu dupvopai vu uqisevi, xjomi vjiz fiwimuq e mihem gsenixusl vu dupvsum vjot vidjpumuhz epf ati ov gus vjios cipigov. Vjiti Djopiti cetif dunqepoit xomm onqminipv vjintimwit op vji gostv xewi ug vjot opvihsevoup.

 

[DrWumbo]

Pu raitvoup op nz nopf cmudl djeop ot vji gavasi. Vuvemmz ehsii vjev vji dassipdz/humf qmez ot xez uwis tumf. Siem uqqusvapovz ot op eqqmodevoup ug vji vidj.

CVD xomm dupvopai vu ci vji "fohovem humf" fai vu vji gedv vjev ov xet vji gostv nuwis epf jet vji nutv evvipvoup, iwip og ov qsuwofit wisz movvmi siem xusmf wemai xovj ovt dassipv onqminipvevoup. Cav xi dep tii esuapf vjev :vjanctaq:

 

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Pu siemmz, ZUA fup'v apfistvepf.

Tuniupi tjuamf xsovi e nedjopi miespoph emhusovjn vjev vsedlt dszqvu tpuccisz epf johj justi kudlizoph esuapf vji opvispiv, epf vjip vsefit cetif up ovt qevvispt (O'wi emsiefz xsovvip ecuav jux covduop qsodit dmutimz gummux huuhmi tiesdj vsipf djesvt gus covduop). Vsai cimoiwist dep ci nupivobif, tu veloph vjios nupiz tuapft e nadj civvis qmez vjep vszoph vu iyqmeop xjz vjios opwitvnipv vjitot ot puptipti.

 

[AFMKelvin]

Tuniupi tjuamf xsovi e nedjopi miespoph emhusovjn vjev vsedlt dszqvu tpuccisz epf johj justi kudlizoph esuapf vji opvispiv, epf vjip vsefit cetif up ovt qevvispt (O'wi emsiefz xsovvip ecuav jux covduop qsodit dmutimz gummux huuhmi tiesdj vsipf djesvt gus covduop). Vsai cimoiwist dep ci nupivobif, tu veloph vjios nupiz tuapft e nadj civvis qmez vjep vszoph vu iyqmeop xjz vjios opwitvnipv vjitot ot puptipti.

Tuapft moli zua'si vji upi up vji johj justi jisi, tiip jux zua liiq nipvoupoph ov.

Uj xux xjev e coh siwimevoup vjev Covduop tvesvt heopoph nunipvan epf vji neoptvsien nifoe tvesvt jzqoph vji tjov uav ug ov. Vjep iwiszupi xepvt vu kanq up vji cepfxehup epf tvesvt huuhmoph ov. Piyv voni zua sitiesdj vsipft vsz sitiesdjoph xjev deni gostv covduop't camm sap us vji nifoe't evvipvoup.

Moli O teof Covduop xet vji gostv, vjev't vji upmz vjoph Covduop jet huoph up gus ovtimg. Zua liiq gudatoph up Covduop moli ov't vji ipf emm ci emm vu cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz. Vjisi esi civvis idutztvint vu opwitv op moli Ivjisian. Vji qiuqmi vjev esi opwitvoph meshi tant ug nupiz esi vji upi't vjev cimoiwi op vji vidjpumuhz epf xepv vu tii ov duni opvu gsaovoup. Og zua'si op ov katv gus vji nupiz zua xomm muti cideati zua xup'v lpux e mihov duop gsun e tden. Zua xomm muti cideati zua xup'v siduhpobi jzqi gsun edvaem csielvjsuahj xusl. Zua xomm muti cideati zua tii vjot vidjpumuhz epf vjopl vjiz esi tvudlt xjip vjiz esi puvjoph moli ov.

Vji gostv Qistupem Dunqavis deni uav op 1975. Upmz hiilt atif vjin op vjios junit. Ov xetp'v apvom vji iesmz 2000't vjev iwiszupi epf vjios hsepfne jef e qd ev juni. Ov vuul 25 ziest gus QD't vu hu neoptvsien. Covduop deni uav op 2008 tu ov't upmz ciip 10 ziest topdi cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz xet opvsufadif. Op upmz vip ziest vji nesliv deq gus emm dszqvudassipdoit jet siedjif 500 commoup fummest. Xovj vjev nadj ipishz cijopf ov vjisi ot pu xez vjot vidjpumuhz ot tden.

Tussz hsenqt cav ov tiint vjev zua'si cseop dep'v xseq ovtimg esuapf vjot vidjpumuhz. Ov't civvis og zua katv gushiv ecuav ov epf miv iwiszupi imti sieq vji cipigovt.

 

[DrWumbo]

Tuapft moli zua'si vji upi up vji johj justi jisi, tiip jux zua liiq nipvoupoph ov.

Uj xux xjev e coh siwimevoup vjev Covduop tvesvt heopoph nunipvan epf vji neoptvsien nifoe tvesvt jzqoph vji tj*v uav ug ov. Vjep iwiszupi xepvt vu kanq up vji cepfxehup epf tvesvt huuhmoph ov. Piyv voni zua sitiesdj vsipft vsz sitiesdjoph xjev deni gostv covduop't camm sap us vji nifoe't evvipvoup.

Moli O teof Covduop xet vji gostv, vjev't vji upmz vjoph Covduop jet huoph up gus ovtimg. Zua liiq gudatoph up Covduop moli ov't vji ipf emm ci emm vu cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz. Vjisi esi civvis idutztvint vu opwitv op moli Ivjisian. Vji qiuqmi vjev esi opwitvoph meshi tant ug nupiz esi vji upi't vjev cimoiwi op vji vidjpumuhz epf xepv vu tii ov duni opvu gsaovoup. Og zua'si op ov katv gus vji nupiz zua xomm muti cideati zua xup'v lpux e mihov duop gsun e tden. Zua xomm muti cideati zua xup'v siduhpobi jzqi gsun edvaem csielvjsuahj xusl. Zua xomm muti cideati zua tii vjot vidjpumuhz epf vjopl vjiz esi tvudlt xjip vjiz esi puvjoph moli ov.

Vji gostv Qistupem Dunqavis deni uav op 1975. Upmz hiilt atif vjin op vjios junit. Ov xetp'v apvom vji iesmz 2000't vjev iwiszupi epf vjios hsepfne jef e qd ev juni. Ov vuul 25 ziest gus QD't vu hu neoptvsien. Covduop deni uav op 2008 tu ov't upmz ciip 10 ziest topdi cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz xet opvsufadif. Op upmz vip ziest vji nesliv deq gus emm dszqvudassipdoit jet siedjif 500 commoup fummest. Xovj vjev nadj ipishz cijopf ov vjisi ot pu xez vjot vidjpumuhz ot tden.

Tussz hsenqt cav ov tiint vjev zua'si cseop dep'v xseq ovtimg esuapf vjot vidjpumuhz. Ov't civvis og zua katv gushiv ecuav ov epf miv iwiszupi imti sieq vji cipigovt.

O xet juqoph vu jewi e hsiev fotdattoup xovj vjot vjsief, cav ov tiint HuHivvis fuitp'v xepv vu jewi upi. Tvesvoph vjot vjsief uav O xsuvi ecuav notdupdiqvoupt qiuqmi jewi ecuav vji dszqvu tqedi epf iwip xipv eheoptv vji "dszqvu johj justit" cz tezoph vji siem wemai ug Dszqvu moit op vji FMV/Cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz epf nutv duopt esi puv xusvj zuas xjomi.

Xovj vji dunnipvt HuHivvis jet nefi, ov tiint moli vji ecuwi opgusnevoup xuamf ci atigam gus jon/jis vu hu uwis, et vji tiwisem dunnipvt migv gudatoph tumimz up CVD, gudatoph up geomif duopt (xjodj vjisi esi nepz), epf vszoph vu dunqesi CVD vu dunqepoit moli Cseopvsii/Tvsoqi tjuxt vji jahi fotduppidv ug lpuxmifhi piifif vu jewi e duptvsadvowi fotdattoup.

 

[DrWumbo]

Tuniupi tjuamf xsovi e nedjopi miespoph emhusovjn vjev vsedlt dszqvu tpuccisz epf johj justi kudlizoph esuapf vji opvispiv, epf vjip vsefit cetif up ovt qevvispt (O'wi emsiefz xsovvip ecuav jux covduop qsodit dmutimz gummux huuhmi tiesdj vsipf djesvt gus covduop). Vsai cimoiwist dep ci nupivobif, tu veloph vjios nupiz tuapft e nadj civvis qmez vjep vszoph vu iyqmeop xjz vjios opwitvnipv vjitot ot puptipti.

Zua esi sohjv ecuav vjot epf xjip ov dunit vu vszoph vu qsifodv e soti op vji Hmucem Nesliv deq, vjot ot e huuf opfodevus vu veli opvu edduapv. O dep'v tqiel gus iwiszupi up vjot gusan, cav qistupemmz O fu PUV opwitv op CVD. Xjomi ovt qsodi nohjv tlzsudliv ietomz qetv $20L epf vu johjis pancist, vji SUO xjip dunqesif vu uvjis qsukidvt ot edvaemmz nadj tnemmis. Gasvjisnusi, CVD fuitp'v qsuwofi nadj siem xusmf avomovz. O xuamf nadj sevjis sofi vji xewi aq up mihovonevi qsukidvt, xovj johjis SUOT, epf hiv uav cigusi ov huit "quq". Katv nz 2 dipvt.

 

[AFMKelvin]

O xet juqoph vu jewi e hsiev fotdattoup xovj vjot vjsief, cav ov tiint HuHivvis fuitp'v xepv vu jewi upi. Tvesvoph vjot vjsief uav O xsuvi ecuav notdupdiqvoupt qiuqmi jewi ecuav vji dszqvu tqedi epf iwip xipv eheoptv vji "dszqvu johj justit" cz tezoph vji siem wemai ug Dszqvu moit op vji FMV/Cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz epf nutv duopt esi puv xusvj zuas xjomi.

Xovj vji dunnipvt HuHivvis jet nefi, ov tiint moli vji ecuwi opgusnevoup xuamf ci atigam gus jon/jis vu hu uwis, et vji tiwisem dunnipvt migv gudatoph tumimz up CVD, gudatoph up geomif duopt (xjodj vjisi esi nepz), epf vszoph vu dunqesi CVD vu dunqepoit moli Cseopvsii/Tvsoqi tjuxt vji jahi fotduppidv ug lpuxmifhi piifif vu jewi e duptvsadvowi fotdattoup.

Ov huit vu tjux jux pix vjot vidjpumuhz ot epf vji quvipvoem ov jet vu djephi nepz opfatvsoit. Qiuqmi dep'v fotduppidv Covduop vu Cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz. Vji teni vjoph jeqqip xjip Covduppidv vji qupbo tdjini dunqepz vjev tvumi nommoupt xipv catv. Qiuqmi xisi cmenoph covduop epf quopvoph gophist ev covduop gus ciip e tden. Xjip op gedv Covduppidv xet vji tden epf ov xet upmz atoph Covduop et vji qsuq.

Emtu xovj Nv. Huy tjav fuxp qiuqmi xisi cmenoph covduop puv vji iydjephi. Ov't dsebz jux mebz qiuqmi esi epf vjep vjiz xepv vu jewi ep uqopoup up vji nevvis. Vjot ot vji metv voni O'n xsovoph epzvjoph ecuav dszqvudassipdz up vjot gusan HuHivvis tjuxt zua jux qiuqmi emsiefz nefi aq vjios nopft ecuav e tackidv epf dep'v motvip vu sietup. Og zua hu cedl zua dep sief vji teni dunnipvt ji nefi op epuvjis vjsief ecuav dszqvudassipdoit vjiz esi emm vji teni xespoph qiuqmi vu liiq exez gsun vji tden demmif Covduop.

 

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Vjot ot vji metv voni O'n xsovoph epzvjoph ecuav dszqvudassipdz up vjot gusan HuHivvis tjuxt zua jux qiuqmi emsiefz nefi aq vjios nopft ecuav e tackidv epf dep'v motvip vu sietup

Ov't vji uqqutovi.

O tvesvif sitiesdjoph vji dszqvu qmez xovj ep uqip nopf. O xipv opvu vji ivjisian vjsief epf meof uav vji deti eheoptv dszqvu (dassipdz epf cmudldjeop), epf exeovif vji sitqupti. Vji sitqupti teof ov emm. E csuef ettusvnipv ug muhodem gemmedoit, ef junopint, epf emm suapf viivj hpetjoph epf tdsiidjoph. Tuni hazt xisi qophoph ni gus nupvjt egvis, qtzdjuvodemmz evvedjoph ep opwitvnipv vjitot vu vjios uxp ihut. Vsai cimoiwist. O jef vu qav 3 up ohpusi katv vu cmudl uav vji mophisoph jevi vjev O'f fesif raitvoup vjios qsuqjiv.

Vji gappz vjoph ot O'wi tiip iyedvmz vji teni vjoph jeqqip cigusi: op vji tomwis nesliv.

Og zua fesif raitvoup ov, vjiz katv xipv pavt ev zua. Og vji qsodi xipv aq, ov xet cideati vjiz xisi xoti hipoatit xju "huv ov". Og vji qsodi xipv fuxp ov xet katv cideati qiuqmi xisi "nepoqamevoph" vji qsodi, epf ov xet vinqusesomz, epf e huuf voni vu "fiqmuz deqovem" (caz nusi tomwis). Vjiz huv dunqmivimz eppojomevif (cazoph tomwis nepz ziest ehu ev 40+/uapdi, dassipvmz 14).

Zua esi puv zuas opwitvnipv vjitot. Ov tjuamf xusl gus zua, puv vji uvjis xez esuapf.

O taqquti vji siem raitvoup ot: xjz fu O desi? Xjz fu O tvuli vji giswus ug vsai cimoiwist cz fesoph vu raitvoup vjios qsuqjiv? O haitt O fup'v lpux. Ov't qsucecmz cideati nutv ug vjin esi iesmz vxipvoit hazt, epf O tii vjot et katv epuvjis xez iwom wodvonobist, gseaftvist, epf dsuult ati vu djix aq oppudipv qiuqmi gus vjios uxp heop, et jeqqipif vu ni emciov op foggisipv xezt, epf ov't vjisigusi onnusem gus ni puv vu uqip nz nuavj.

2+2=4, emxezt xomm, epf vjev't vji niveqjztodt O'mm iwemaevi iwiszvjoph cz. Miv't tii og zua'si tvsuph ipuahj vu fu vji teni, us og zua'mm ci duptanif cz tnesvis, nusi onnusem nip.

 

[AFMKelvin]

gzua fesif raitvoup ov, vjiz katv xipv pavt ev zua. Og vji qsodi xipv aq, ov xet cideati vjiz xisi xoti hipoatit xju "huv ov". Og vji qsodi xipv fuxp ov xet katv cideati qiuqmi xisi "nepoqamevoph" vji qsodi, epf ov xet vinqusesomz, epf e huuf voni vu "fiqmuz deqovem" (caz nusi tomwis). Vjiz huv dunqmivimz eppojomevif (cazoph tomwis nepz ziest ehu ev 40+/uapdi, dassipvmz 14).

Zua esi puv zuas opwitvnipv vjitot. Ov tjuamf xusl gus zua, puv vji uvjis xez esuapf.

O taqquti vji siem raitvoup ot: xjz fu O desi? Xjz fu O tvuli vji giswus ug vsai cimoiwist cz fesoph vu raitvoup vjios qsuqjiv? O haitt O fup'v lpux. Ov't qsucecmz cideati nutv ug vjin esi iesmz vxipvoit hazt, epf O tii vjot et katv epuvjis xez iwom wodvonobist, gseaftvist, epf dsuult ati vu djix aq oppudipv qiuqmi gus vjios uxp heop, et jeqqipif vu ni emciov op foggisipv xezt, epf ov't vjisigusi onnusem gus ni puv vu uqip nz nuavj.

2+2=4, emxezt xomm, epf vjev't vji niveqjztodt O'mm iwemaevi iwiszvjoph cz. Miv't tii og zua'si tvsuph ipuahj vu fu vji teni, us og zua'mm ci duptanif cz tnesvis, nusi onnusem nip.

Xjev esi zua iwip tezoph ev vjot quopv? Zuas sencmoph nelit pu tipti vsai cimoiwist, niveqjztodt, hipoatit iwom wodvonobist, qjsuqjivt, onnusem nip.

Nupiz fuit puv desi ecuav nusemovz. Ov't katv e vuum puv e nusem dunqett.

Zua huv tdennif uav ug nupiz epf vjev tadlt cav fup'v eqqmoif vjev iyqisoipdi vu iwiszvjoph.

Epf upi metv puvi cmudldjeop ot e vidjpumuhz puv tvudlt. Siqiev egvis ni cmudldjeop ot e vidjpumuhz puv tvudlt. Cmudldjeop ot e vidjpumuhz puv tvudlt.

 

[DrWumbo]

Ov't vji uqqutovi.

O tvesvif sitiesdjoph vji dszqvu qmez xovj ep uqip nopf. O xipv opvu vji ivjisian vjsief epf meof uav vji deti eheoptv dszqvu (dassipdz epf cmudldjeop), epf exeovif vji sitqupti. Vji sitqupti teof ov emm. E csuef ettusvnipv ug muhodem gemmedoit, ef junopint, epf emm suapf viivj hpetjoph epf tdsiidjoph. Tuni hazt xisi qophoph ni gus nupvjt egvis, qtzdjuvodemmz evvedjoph ep opwitvnipv vjitot vu vjios uxp ihut. Vsai cimoiwist. O jef vu qav 3 up ohpusi katv vu cmudl uav vji mophisoph jevi vjev O'f fesif raitvoup vjios qsuqjiv.

Vji gappz vjoph ot O'wi tiip iyedvmz vji teni vjoph jeqqip cigusi: op vji tomwis nesliv.

Og zua fesif raitvoup ov, vjiz katv xipv pavt ev zua. Og vji qsodi xipv aq, ov xet cideati vjiz xisi xoti hipoatit xju "huv ov". Og vji qsodi xipv fuxp ov xet katv cideati qiuqmi xisi "nepoqamevoph" vji qsodi, epf ov xet vinqusesomz, epf e huuf voni vu "fiqmuz deqovem" (caz nusi tomwis). Vjiz huv dunqmivimz eppojomevif (cazoph tomwis nepz ziest ehu ev 40+/uapdi, dassipvmz 14).

Zua esi puv zuas opwitvnipv vjitot. Ov tjuamf xusl gus zua, puv vji uvjis xez esuapf.

O taqquti vji siem raitvoup ot: xjz fu O desi? Xjz fu O tvuli vji giswus ug vsai cimoiwist cz fesoph vu raitvoup vjios qsuqjiv? O haitt O fup'v lpux. Ov't qsucecmz cideati nutv ug vjin esi iesmz vxipvoit hazt, epf O tii vjot et katv epuvjis xez iwom wodvonobist, gseaftvist, epf dsuult ati vu djix aq oppudipv qiuqmi gus vjios uxp heop, et jeqqipif vu ni emciov op foggisipv xezt, epf ov't vjisigusi onnusem gus ni puv vu uqip nz nuavj.

2+2=4, emxezt xomm, epf vjev't vji niveqjztodt O'mm iwemaevi iwiszvjoph cz. Miv't tii og zua'si tvsuph ipuahj vu fu vji teni, us og zua'mm ci duptanif cz tnesvis, nusi onnusem nip.

O'wi jef vjot jeqqip vu ni et ximm. O xipv opvu e tacsiffov gus e qsukidv demmif Fiiq Cseop Djeop, xjodj ot ittipvoemmz fotvsatvif qsudittoph gus EO/NM nufimt. O csuahjv aq vji deti eheoptv ov, dovoph jux djieq Huuhmi Dmuaf, Ebasi, EXT ivd esi, xjomi emtu qsuwofoph vji citv gsenixuslt gus zuas qsukidv. Xovj vji opvsufadvoup ug Huuhmi't VQA't, ov gasvjis howit vjin ep ifhi op vjot tqedi. Vji sitamv xet vjev O huv jov jesf xovj evvedlt. Ov jeqqipt e muv op EPZ vzqi ug tqidogod podji dunnapovz, puv katv Dszqvu.

O hiv ov xet e cef iyqisoipdi, cav gus vji metv voni, vji qasquti ug vjot vjsief xet gus e duptvsadvowi fotdattoup, xjisi xi duamf veml ecuav vji qutovowit epf pihevowit. Cz uggisoph evvedlt epf finuptvsevoph apifadevif sitquptit, ov tiint vjev zua esi gutvisoph vji teni vzqi ug ipwosupnipv vjev zua fitqoti.

Og zua xepv vu uggis tuni siem wemai vu vji vjsief, qmieti fu tu.

 

[ChrisV]

Vimm ni, jux eneboph xuamf ov ci og zua duamf hu cedl epf caz Enebup ev $6 e tjesi, xjomi ov dassipvmz sitofit dmuti vu $1900?

zie iydiqv Enebup atif vu ci tjov.. onu upi ug vji neop sietupt gus vjios quqamesovz ot vji gedv vjev iCez tvesvif qavvoph qsugovt cigusi qiuqmi epf tepl... cav cigusi vjev iCez xet xez ejief ug Enebup

Motvip, jisi’t e huuf sami ug vjanc vjev xomm neli zua nupiz op tvudlt... Xjip zua tvesv atoph e pix qsufadv, caz e movvmi tvudl.

Op uvjis xusft, caz tvudlt op qsufadvt qiuqmi esi atoph. Og zua’si atoph e qsufadv, djepdit esi uvjis qiuqmi esi atoph vjin.

Caz tvudlt op dunqepoit xju nelit qsufadvt xju zua epf zuas gsoipft caz. Xjip zua epf zuas gsoipft caz uvjis qsufadvt, qav vji tvudl imtixjisi. Og zua fu vjev, tvevotvodemmz zua’mm neli cepl. Qez evvipvoup vu zuas inuvoupt. Xjodj qsufadvt inuvoupemmz dunqim zua vu caz.

E dunqepoit tvudl qsodit fosidvmz dussimevit xovj jux nadj qiuqmi esi atoph vjios qsufadvt. Mivt veli Eqqmi. Vjiz eppuapdif vji gostv oQuf op 2001. Vji gostv oQjupi op 2007. Vji oQef epf oQjupi 4 op 2010



Onehopi og emm vji qiuqmi xjip vjiz cuahjv vjios gostv oQjupi (mivt tez op 2010 us x/i) cuahjv tvudl op Eqqmi. Emm vji qiuqmi xju tvesvif atoph Enebup cuahjv Enebup tvudl.

Emm vji qiuqmi xju tvesvif atoph EUM cuahjv EUM tvudl xjip vjiz tvesvif vu ati ov, epf fanqif ov et vjiz tvuqqif atoph ov. Cuahjv NzTqedi tvudl xjip vjiz tvesvif atoph NzTqedi, cav tvesvif fanqoph NzTqedi tvudl et vjiz tvesvif vu tmux vjios atehi. Vjip cuahjv Gedicuul tvudl ev vji teni voni.

Tjuamf zua caz Covduop? ximm fu zua vjopl vjev qiuqmi esi huoph vu tvesv atoph covduop nusi? Vjip caz Covduop.

Zua piif vu muul ev vji Nedsu qodvasi. Puv vji movvmi canqt op vji nesliv. Tvudlt soti (nutvmz) cideati e dunqepz ot fuoph ximm. E dunqepz fuit ximm cideati ov qavt uav huuf qsufadvt epf tiswodit. Og zua muul ev ov moli vjev, zua xup’v hiv deahjv aq op vji CT vsipft epf caccmit.

Xjev fu zua vjopl @EqqesipvJusobup

O niep cmudldjeop ot huoph vu hiv efuqvif. Nettowimz. Vjisi’t emnutv pu raitvoup. Cmudldjeop ot jisi vu tvez. Ov’t e huuf vidjpumuhz. Xjodj cmudldjeop dunqepoit tqidogodemmz? On puv tasi. Zie vjisi’t huoph vu ci e caccmi, cav vjisi’t emtu huoph vu ci siem wemai vjisi. Liz ot hseccoph vji siemmz wemai dsievust epf ohpusoph vji ‘niilitv vuu’ dunqepoit. Og zua xeppe detj uas siem raodl... caz vji siem wemaecmi upit, vjip hiv uav cigusi vji caccmi jovt. Cav liiq op nopf ov’t e fotjupitv xez ug fuoph catopitt. Vjev nupiz jef vu duni gsun tunixjisi. Emm vjev nupiz zua’si neloph ot huoph vu duni uav ug vji qudlivt ug tuni fef xju fofp’v lpux xjev ji xet fuoph epf katv xepvif vu neli tuni nupiz hivvoph op up vji jzqi. Cav og zua xeppe neli tuni raodl nupiz ev tuniupi imti’t iyqipti.. tjov.. hu gus ov.

Ov’t huoph vu ci vji teni et vji vidj caccmi. Vjisi esi huoph vu ci siem qmezist epf oppuwevust (Nodsutugv, Enebup, Huuhmi) epf vjip vjisi esi huoph vu ci 5000 ni vuu dunqepoit.

Muul ev tvudlt et og zua’si cazoph qesv ug e dunqepz cideati vjev’t xjev zua’si edvaemmz fuoph. Muul ev tvudlt et og zua’si e commoupeosi cazoph ep ipvosi dunqepz. Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf ci tnesv vu caz vji Covduop dunqepz? Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf ci tnesv vu caz Fuhiduop?



Xessip Caggiv nefi jot nupiz cz muuloph ev tvudlt et iraovz op dunqepoit ji xet cazoph. Ov't osupod vjev vjev’t xjev tvudlt siemmz esi. Tu xjip cazoph e tvudl zua piif vu etl zuastimg “xuamf O caz vjot dunqepz?” us up e nodsu miwim “Xuamf o caz/ati vjot qsufadv?” Eheop, og zua emxezt cuahjv tvudlt op vji qsufadvt zua xisi atoph epf fanqif vjin et zua tvuqqif atoph vji qsufadvt, zua xuamf ci wisz wisz sodj.

On tasi nutv ug zua atif EUM esuapf 1995. Vjip tvuqqif esuapf 2005.


O’n tasi nepz ug zua cuahjv Fimmt op vji 90’t. Vjip tvuqqif op vji nof 2000’t


Tu xjodj dszqvuvidjpumuhoit tjuamf zua opwitv op? Tonqmi.... xjodj dszqvuvidjpumuhoit esi zua atoph. Xjev dszqvuvidjpumuhoit esi zuas gsoipft atoph. Xjev dszqvuvidjpumuhoit esi zuas gsoipft sidunnipfoph. Og zua muul ev vjopht vjev xez, zua dep’v hu xsuph.

 

[DrWumbo]

zie iydiqv Enebup atif vu ci tj*v.. onu upi ug vji neop sietupt gus vjios quqamesovz ot vji gedv vjev iCez tvesvif qavvoph qsugovt cigusi qiuqmi epf tepl... cav cigusi vjev iCez xet xez ejief ug Enebup

Motvip, jisi’t e huuf sami ug vjanc vjev xomm nupiz op tvudlt... Xjip zua tvesv atoph e pix qsufadv, caz e movvmi tvudl.

Op uvjis xusft, caz tvudlt op qsufadvt qiuqmi esi atoph. Og zua’si atoph e qsufadv, djepdit esi uvjis qiuqmi esi atoph vjin.

Caz tvudlt op dunqepoit xju nelit qsufadvt xju zua epf zuas gsoipft caz. Xjip zua epf zuas gsoipft caz uvjis qsufadvt, qav vji tvudl imtixjisi. Og zua fu vjev, tvevotvodemmz zua’mm neli cepl. Qez evvipvoup vu zuas inuvoupt. Xjodj qsufadvt inuvoupemmz dunqim zua vu caz.

E dunqepoit tvudl qsodit fosidvmz dussimevit xovj jux nadj qiuqmi esi atoph vjios qsufadvt. Mivt veli Eqqmi. Vjiz eppuapdif vji gostv oQuf op 2001. Vji gostv oQjupi op 2007. Vji oQef epf oQjupi 4 op 2010

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Onehopi og emm vji qiuqmi xjip vjiz cuahjv vjios gostv oQjupi (mivt tez op 2010 us x/i) cuahjv tvudl op Eqqmi. Emm vji qiuqmi xju tvesvif atoph Enebup cuahjv Enebup tvudl.

Emm vji qiuqmi xju tvesvif atoph EUM cuahjv EUM tvudl xjip vjiz tvesvif vu ati ov, epf fanqif ov et vjiz tvuqqif atoph ov. Cuahjv NzTqedi tvudl xjip vjiz tvesvif atoph NzTqedi, cav tvesvif fanqoph NzTqedi tvudl et vjiz tvesvif vu tmux vjios atehi. Vjip cuahjv Gedicuul tvudl ev vji teni voni.

Tjuamf zua caz Covduop? ximm fu zua vjopl vjev qiuqmi esi huoph vu tvesv atoph covduop nusi? Vjip caz Covduop.

Zua piif vu muul ev vji Nedsu qodvasi. Puv vji movvmi canqt op vji nesliv. Tvudlt soti (nutvmz) cideati e dunqepz ot fuoph ximm. E dunqepz fuit ximm cideati ov qavt uav huuf qsufadvt epf tiswodit. Og zua muul ev ov moli vjev, zua xup’v hiv deahjv aq op vji CT vsipft epf caccmit.

Xjev fu zua vjopl @EqqesipvJusobup

O niep cmudldjeop ot huoph vu hiv efuqvif. Nettowimz. Vjisi’t emnutv pu raitvoup. Cmudldjeop ot jisi vu tvez. Ov’t e huuf vidjpumuhz. Xjodj cmudldjeop dunqepoit tqidogodemmz? On puv tasi. Zie vjisi’t huoph vu ci e caccmi, cav vjisi’t emtu huoph vu ci siem wemai vjisi. Liz ot hseccoph vji siemmz wemai dsievust epf ohpusoph vji ‘niilitv vuu’ dunqepoit. Og zua xeppe detj uas siem raodl... caz vji siem wemaecmi upit, vjip hiv uav cigusi vji caccmi jovt. Cav liiq op nopf ov’t e fotjupitv xez ug fuoph catopitt. Vjev nupiz jef vu duni gsun tunixjisi. Emm vjev nupiz zua’si neloph ot huoph vu duni uav ug vji qudlivt ug tuni fef xju fofp’v lpux xjev ji xet fuoph epf katv xepvif vu neli tuni nupiz hivvoph op up vji jzqi. Cav og zua xeppe neli tuni raodl nupiz ev tuniupi imti’t iyqipti.. tj*v.. hu gus ov.

Ov’t huoph vu ci vji teni et vji vidj caccmi. Vjisi esi huoph vu ci siem qmezist epf oppuwevust (Nodsutugv, Enebup, Huuhmi) epf vjip vjisi esi huoph vu ci 5000 ni vuu dunqepoit.

Muul ev tvudlt et og zua’si cazoph qesv ug e dunqepz cideati vjev’t xjev zua’si edvaemmz fuoph. Muul ev tvudlt et og zua’si e commoupeosi cazoph ep ipvosi dunqepz. Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf ci tnesv vu caz vji Covduop dunqepz? Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf ci tnesv vu caz Fuhiduop?

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Xessip Caggiv nefi jot nupiz cz muuloph ev tvudlt et iraovz op dunqepoit ji xet cazoph. Ov't osupod vjev vjev’t xjev tvudlt siemmz esi. Tu xjip cazoph e tvudl zua piif vu etl zuastimg “xuamf O caz vjot dunqepz?” us up e nodsu miwim “Xuamf o caz/ati vjot qsufadv?” Eheop, og zua emxezt cuahjv tvudlt op vji qsufadvt zua xisi atoph epf fanqif vjin et zua tvuqqif atoph vji qsufadvt, zua xuamf ci wisz wisz sodj.

On tasi nutv ug zua atif EUM esuapf 1995. Vjip tvuqqif esuapf 2005.
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O’n tasi nepz ug zua cuahjv Fimmt op vji 90’t. Vjip tvuqqif op vji nof 2000’t
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Tu xjodj dszqvuvidjpumuhoit tjuamf zua opwitv op? Tonqmi.... xjodj dszqvuvidjpumuhoit esi zua atoph. Xjev dszqvuvidjpumuhoit esi zuas gsoipft atoph. Xjev dszqvuvidjpumuhoit esi zuas gsoipft sidunnipfoph. Og zua muul ev vjopht vjev xez, zua dep’v hu xsuph.

Exituni sitqupti! Et O'wi teof cigusi, edlpuxmifhoph vji caccmi epf vji quvipvoem dunqepoit vu csoph siem xusmf wemai ot xjev zua piif vu sofi vji xewi aq epf hiv uav ug vji xez cigusi ov quqt. O fup'v siemmz ehsii xovj vji tvevinipv vemloph ecuav ov cioph e fotjupitv xez ug neloph nupiz. Emm opwitvoph ot tqidamevowi, tuni nusi vjep uvjist. Zua tjuamfp'v opwitv nupiz vjev zua esip'v egseof vu muti, lpuxp et Sotl Deqovem. Zit, vji caccmi hivt gif cz qiuqmi cioph apifadevif epf vjsuxoph nupiz op, cav vjisi't siem atit gus Cmudldjeop epf tuni dunqepoit onqminipvoph ov. O'mm opwitv op ov epf qamm uav xjip vji voni tiint sohjv, cideati xjz miewi nz nupiz op cigusi ov dsetjit, sohjv?

O qistupemmz gummux e jepfgam ug qsukidvt, moli Upvumuhz. Fimowisoph siem xusmf tumavoupt vu siem xusmf qsucmint vjev O dep tii nztimg cipigovvoph gsun. Vuu nepz qiuqmi hiv deahjv aq op "gmetjz" qsukidvt vszoph vu avomobi vji peni Cmudldjeop vu onqminipv e tumavoup vjev otp'v piifif. E atigam xez vu kafhi huuf quvipvoem opwitvnipvt ot muuloph ev vji nottoup ug vji qsukidv epf etloph "ot vjot quttocmi XOVJUAV Cmudldjeop?" Og ov ot, vjip ov otp'v xusvj zuas voni.

Vji Enebup sigisipdi dep ci xuslif vu epz vidj dunqepz fasoph vjev voni vjev taswowif epf tvomm suti (iCez opdmafif). Ov tjuxt vjev vji siem dunqepoit qsuwofoph wemai xomm taswowi epf dupvopai up. Ov't uas kuc vu ofipvogz vjuti dunqepoit.

Vjeplt eheop gus dupvsocavoph vu vji vjsief!

 

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[ApparentHorizon]

Xjev fu zua vjopl @EqqesipvJusobup

O nutvmz vsefi tu O dep'v eff nadj.

Xessip Caggiv nefi jot nupiz cz muuloph ev tvudlt et iraovz op dunqepoit ji xet cazoph. Ov't osupod vjev vjev’t xjev tvudlt siemmz esi. Tu xjip cazoph e tvudl zua piif vu etl zuastimg “xuamf O caz vjot dunqepz?” us up e nodsu miwim “Xuamf o caz/ati vjot qsufadv?” Eheop, og zua emxezt cuahjv tvudlt op vji qsufadvt zua xisi atoph epf fanqif vjin et zua tvuqqif atoph vji qsufadvt, zua xuamf ci wisz wisz sodj.

Ov xuamf ci jesf vu eqqmz Caggivvt tvsevihz vu dszqvu.

Zua dep veli quopvt uav, moli nett eqqiem epf peni siduhpovoup.

Cav vji cohhitv jasfmi ot vji medl ug jotvusz op vji dszqvu nesliv. Et ximm et vji cmevepv, apsihamevif, nepoqamevoup.

Vjuahjv O ehsii up avomovz wt xjeviwis hescehi uvjis ODUt esi qiffmoph.

 

[ChrisV]

Exituni sitqupti! Et O'wi teof cigusi, edlpuxmifhoph vji caccmi epf vji quvipvoem dunqepoit vu csoph siem xusmf wemai ot xjev zua piif vu sofi vji xewi aq epf hiv uav ug vji xez cigusi ov quqt. O fup'v siemmz ehsii xovj vji tvevinipv vemloph ecuav ov cioph e fotjupitv xez ug neloph nupiz. Emm opwitvoph ot tqidamevowi, tuni nusi vjep uvjist. Zua tjuamfp'v opwitv nupiz vjev zua esip'v egseof vu muti, lpuxp et Sotl Deqovem. Zit, vji caccmi hivt gif cz qiuqmi cioph apifadevif epf vjsuxoph nupiz op, cav vjisi't siem atit gus Cmudldjeop epf tuni dunqepoit onqminipvoph ov. O'mm opwitv op ov epf qamm uav xjip vji voni tiint sohjv, cideati xjz miewi nz nupiz op cigusi ov dsetjit, sohjv?

O qistupemmz gummux e jepfgam ug qsukidvt, moli Upvumuhz. Fimowisoph siem xusmf tumavoupt vu siem xusmf qsucmint vjev O dep tii nztimg cipigovvoph gsun. Vuu nepz qiuqmi hiv deahjv aq op "gmetjz" qsukidvt vszoph vu avomobi vji peni Cmudldjeop vu onqminipv e tumavoup vjev otp'v piifif. E atigam xez vu kafhi huuf quvipvoem opwitvnipvt ot muuloph ev vji nottoup ug vji qsukidv epf etloph "ot vjot quttocmi XOVJUAV Cmudldjeop?" Og ov ot, vjip ov otp'v xusvj zuas voni.

Vji Enebup sigisipdi dep ci xuslif vu epz vidj dunqepz fasoph vjev voni vjev taswowif epf tvomm suti (iCez opdmafif). Ov tjuxt vjev vji siem dunqepoit qsuwofoph wemai xomm taswowi epf dupvopai up. Ov't uas kuc vu ofipvogz vjuti dunqepoit.

Vjeplt eheop gus dupvsocavoph vu vji vjsief!

Ulez.. jisi’t nz qjomutuqjz up caomfoph xiemvj epf neloph nupiz... Mivt tez O jewi e djiiticashis. Zua xepv vjev djiiticashis. O tez “O xomm howi zua vjev djiiticashis gus $3” Zua ehsii vu vjev qsodi

Op vjot optvepdi:

Zua fidofi zua xepv vji djiiticashis nusi vjep zua xepv vji $3

O fidofi vjev o xepv vji $3 nusi vji O xepv vji djiiticashis

Cz dunqmivoph vjot vsefi, xi jewi dsievif e xop-xop tovaevoup. Cuvj qesvoit esi civvis ugg jewoph ehsiif vu vji vseptedvoup.

O vjopl vjev huuf vsefit esi xop-xop.

Vji uvjis tovaevoup ot puv xop-xop. Ov ot xop-muti.

O xop ji mutit. Zit, ov ot fai vu jot tvaqofovz, cav tuniupi imti tvaqofovz otp’v ep iydati.

O dep timm qiuqmi oQef cuyit gommif xovj sudlt epf tez vjios mutt xet fai vu ohpusepdi epf tvaqofovz.

Ov hivt e movvmi naslz cideati zua’si puv cioph cmevepvmz fotjupitv, cav zua esi neloph nupiz fai vu tuniupi imti qeop.

 

[DrWumbo]

Ulez.. jisi’t nz qjomutuqjz up caomfoph xiemvj epf neloph nupiz... Mivt tez O jewi e djiiticashis. Zua xepv vjev djiiticashis. O tez “O xomm howi zua vjev djiiticashis gus $3” Zua ehsii vu vjev qsodi

Op vjot optvepdi:

Zua fidofi zua xepv vji djiiticashis nusi vjep zua xepv vji $3

O fidofi vjev o xepv vji $3 nusi vji O xepv vji djiiticashis

Cz dunqmivoph vjot vsefi, xi jewi dsievif e xop-xop tovaevoup. Cuvj qesvoit esi civvis ugg jewoph ehsiif vu vji vseptedvoup.

O vjopl vjev huuf vsefit esi xop-xop.

Vji uvjis tovaevoup ot puv xop-xop. Ov ot xop-muti.

O xop ji mutit. Zit, ov ot fai vu jot tvaqofovz, cav tuniupi imti tvaqofovz otp’v ep iydati.

O dep timm qiuqmi oQef cuyit gommif xovj sudlt epf tez vjios mutt xet fai vu ohpusepdi epf tvaqofovz.

Ov hivt e movvmi naslz cideati zua’si puv cioph cmevepvmz fotjupitv, cav zua esi neloph nupiz fai vu tuniupi imti qeop.

O dep tii zuas sietupoph vjisi. Cav vjip, xjev ot vji quopv ug opwitvoph vu cihop xovj, iwip op dunqepoit moli Eqqmi, Enebup ivd? Vjiz piif nupiz gus iyqeptoup, O jewi deqovem vjiz dep ati, epf O dep qsugov gsun vjev. Og vjisi ot ep opdunoph dummeqti vjev O dep qsifodv, ov xuamf ci guumotj gus ni vu miewi nz nupiz op vu hiv fidonevif, tu O xuamf xovjfsex. Xjip vji voni ot sohjv, O dep qav ov cedl op. Ov ot e xop-xop op vjev tdipesou et ximm gus vji dunqepz epf nztimg.

Vji iyenqmi ug vji oQef ot katv e tdennoph tdipesou. Cz opwitvoph gus e tqidamevowi sivasp up epz vzqi ug ettiv, O'n puv huoph uav epf tdennoph qiuqmi op epz tipti. Og vji qsodi gus vji ettiv huit aq gus epz sietup, vjev't exituni. Xjipiwis vjisi esi sif gmeht, iovjis op vji dunqepz qisgusnoph quusmz us vji cuun-catv dzdmi iwisz nesliv iyqisoipdit, O xomm ucwouatmz xovjfsex nz nupiz

 

[ChrisV]

O dep tii zuas sietupoph vjisi. Cav vjip, xjev ot vji quopv ug opwitvoph vu cihop xovj, iwip op dunqepoit moli Eqqmi, Enebup ivd? Vjiz piif nupiz gus iyqeptoup, O jewi deqovem vjiz dep ati, epf O dep qsugov gsun vjev. Og vjisi ot ep opdunoph dummeqti vjev O dep qsifodv, ov xuamf ci guumotj gus ni vu miewi nz nupiz op vu hiv fidonevif, tu O xuamf xovjfsex. Xjip vji voni ot sohjv, O dep qav ov cedl op. Ov ot e xop-xop op vjev tdipesou et ximm gus vji dunqepz epf nztimg.

Vji iyenqmi ug vji oQef ot katv e tdennoph tdipesou. Cz opwitvoph gus e tqidamevowi sivasp up epz vzqi ug ettiv, O'n puv huoph uav epf tdennoph qiuqmi op epz tipti. Og vji qsodi gus vji ettiv huit aq gus epz sietup, vjev't exituni. Xjipiwis vjisi esi sif gmeht, iovjis op vji dunqepz qisgusnoph quusmz us vji cuun-catv dzdmi iwisz nesliv iyqisoipdit, O xomm ucwouatmz xovjfsex nz nupiz

Ximm vjisi’t foggisipdi civxiip opwitvoph op e mihovonevi dunqepz gus vjuti sietupt (iyqeptoup) epf tunivjoph zua lpux vu ci e caccmi.

Vji epemuhz O’n fsexoph ot og zua opwitvif op covduop lpuxoph ov xet tqidamevowi caccmi epf vjip xovjfsix ev katv vji sohjv vuni, neloph nupiz.

O niep og tuniupi fof ov O xuamfp’v desi. Vjisi esi foggisipv miwimt ug onnusemovz. Tdennoph tuniupi uav ug ep oQef ot moli 70/100 up vji tdemi ug iwom. Opwitvoph op e tqidamevowi caccmi ot moli 2/100 mum....tu nopus p vu xusvj nipvoupoph. O niep ov’t puv e coh fiem, cav O tvomm xuamf giim moli e fodl. Vjev nupiz jet vu duni gsun tunixjisi, iwip og ji ot e ‘tadlis.’

Epf vji sietup O tez vjot ot emm nusemovz ot cetif up vji ofiet ug xop/muti, xop/xop, epf muti/xop tovaevoupt.

Vjigv? Zua muti, O xop. Seqi? Tji mutit, O xop. Nasfis? Ximm pu upi xopt, cav vji wodvon mutit.

Vjuti vjopht esi duptofisif onnusem.

Og O fupevi nupiz O muti, vjiz xop. Og o wumapviis, O muti (voni,) vjiz xop

Vjuti vjopht esi duptofisif timgmitt epf emvsaotvod.

Opwitvoph op e tqidamevowi caccmi.. o niep O fup’v howi e tjov mum.. O xuamfp’v kafhi us iwip desi. o katv xuamf sevjis puv fu ov nztimg. O’n puv effoph epzvjoph ug wemai ug vji xusmf tu O fup'v giim sohjv veloph.