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I am now getting close to my A-levels and with that the end of my time in high school.
Since uni is basically free in Germany (the best private Unis take like 2k per semester and some take literally less than their bus ticket costs) I will go there as long as nothing crazy happens in the next few months. If all goes well, my plan is to get a master’s degree in six years or less and then have some valuable technical skill that helps me provide value to the world.

No, I don't want the forum to make a life decision for me. What I am asking for, are some suggestions, things to check out and options to think about. I am also looking at other sources and options such as getting into a trade or simply starting an entry job as a dev which teaches you the needed skills from step one and onwards.
What I hope to find are simply some ideas that I might not have thought of.

Thanks in advance,
Subsonic
 
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If I were you, I would do these:

❌ = Less Focus Old School/Traditional College Majors
❌ = No Time Wasting in Campus
✅ = More Focus on Majors that have High-Demand in the Germany Marketplace & Industry
✅ = Networking with potential employers in Career Events to get a foot in the door of the best company
 

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I am now getting close to my A-levels and with that the end of my time in high school.
Since uni is basically free in Germany (the best private Unis take like 2k per semester and some take literally less than their bus ticket costs) I will go there as long as nothing crazy happens in the next few months. If all goes well, my plan is to get a master’s degree in six years or less and then have some valuable technical skill that helps me provide value to the world.

No, I don't want the forum to make a life decision for me. What I am asking for, are some suggestions, things to check out and options to think about. I am also looking at other sources and options such as getting into a trade or simply starting an entry job as a dev which teaches you the needed skills from step one and onwards.
What I hope to find are simply some ideas that I might not have thought of.

Thanks in advance,
Subsonic
Hard decisions easy life, easy decisions hard life. The same applies to studying I realized. I study Economics/Business with Politics and Philosophy in my minor. Even though I broadened my horizon immensely in the last 3 years I`d probably study something different looking back. Just think about what you can learn on your own terms at home and where you need the support of other people or devices that only exist in universities. E.g to study economic/business concepts or philosophy all you need is a book or youtube or some other free courses online. However, you need to go to a laboratory to study Chemistry, material sciences or food sciences. So I`d suggest natural sciences are always a good choice to start with if you have the mathematical ability and willpower to do that. Economic or Business concepts like Accounting or Corporate Finance which are valuable you can still learn later on your own or in an advanced training. Furthermore, I found that the most valubale concepts concerning Business I did not get from University but other sources like MJ`s Books or other books on business and entrepreneurship.
 

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You want to start with:
Where do you want to be in 10 years time? Is a particular university degree going to help you get there?

yes it's free in terms of money, but it's 6 years of time.

It might be a great decision for you, it might not.
 

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I am now getting close to my A-levels and with that the end of my time in high school.
Since uni is basically free in Germany (the best private Unis take like 2k per semester and some take literally less than their bus ticket costs) I will go there as long as nothing crazy happens in the next few months. If all goes well, my plan is to get a master’s degree in six years or less and then have some valuable technical skill that helps me provide value to the world.

No, I don't want the forum to make a life decision for me. What I am asking for, are some suggestions, things to check out and options to think about. I am also looking at other sources and options such as getting into a trade or simply starting an entry job as a dev which teaches you the needed skills from step one and onwards.
What I hope to find are simply some ideas that I might not have thought of.

Thanks in advance,
Subsonic
Spend less time going for a degree, pretty worthless to a Fastlaner. Spend more time joining associations, clubs, and the odd fun elective to keep your spirits up.
 

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You want to start with:
Where do you want to be in 10 years time? Is a particular university degree going to help you get there?

yes it's free in terms of money, but it's 6 years of time.

It might be a great decision for you, it might not.
I do think something really technical like nanotechnology, cs or hardware engineering will be beneficial to my 1/5/10 vision.

On the other hand I could start a job as a web developer and learn in the trenches there.
 
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Moin @Subsonic :) Let me tell you a short story: Three years ago there was that guy about you age, he was interested in programming, marketing, sales and graphic design. He was asking me what university to choose. My advice was: why pay for university, when you can pick the trade you are interested in, go work there learn and even get paid for that. Beats any university even if it's a free one. He joined a company as sales assistant, during the 3 years worked his way up to sales specialist. Learned the sales trade, organised plenty of trade shows in Germany, even created product catalogs himself, as he already was proficient with Adobe In design. Traveled western Europe and got plenty of experience with acquiring b2b customers handling sales and so on. Then a friend of mine asked if I knew a good candidate for a sales manager who spoke German. I recommended him and now he works in a similar company, gets to manage sales for Netherlands, Danemark, Germany, Austria, Czech Republic and Switzerland. Also earns a lot of money plus commissions from sales. But he still wanted to finish the university, so he studies on weekends. Now imagine how better off he will be than his fellow students after he finishes university.
 

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The general rule I've heard: Stick in STEM, and you can't go wrong. Remember that some STEM is better than others (I've seen this with biology vs physics/chemistry/maths). As long as it's solving problems, you'll be in demand. The idea is not for the degree to be a breadwinner but a baseline you can always fall back on if hard times arise.

Engineering is top-notch; it's a problem-solving degree.

DISCLAIMER: I am a student, but recalling what I've read on the forum, I've adopted this. Bigger giants of the meeting may have better insight.
 

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Find STEM related jobs. As much as I am starting to not like them.... due to my recent layoff. Just know that not all jobs are safe. You instead need to learn to be valuable to the marketplace. Anything in life we do as a risk. Even starting a business is a risk, but could be the better option due to today's job market. I am only familiar with tech, so anything else, I don't know of and I'm sure others can chime in.

Degrees essentially will become obsolete in the future after years you apply yourself In the job market. My degree is just tells employers. I can do one thing and stay at one place for very long. All knowledge from classes are theory anyway. Your paying ~$50k total for a degree that gives you information. However, most senior jobs will want something. If and when you get a masters that will be enough. Don't forget though you will need to apply your years of service first.

Instead of doing a passion, look athe marketplace for jobs that are indemand and learn those skills instead. Doing this whole "I love computers" things essentially killed my passion for the field. So I do have to agree with with Steve Jobs and MJ states about the passion concept.

I'd say do something that's relevant in the STEM field, don't waste money on a degree that won't get you anywhere. Also, be careful on the costs. You don't have to go to some fancy University for a degree. The big names have reputation, what matters is whether can you get the job done much more.

Also, pay attention to the market or industry that you are in. Are job layoffs on the rise? Are people posting about being laid off? Are big companies cutting headcounts? Pay attention to these signals, because it will be about time to either change yourself, do something completely else, or it will be tike to update/upgrade your skills.

Another flaw I did, is never, ever stay stagnate, don't be complacent. Always be on the move learning new skills. In the job market, you are essentially selling yourself and the skills you've learned for an hourly rate or an per year annual salary. It's you vs 1000s of applicants for one role. Competition is fierce, we are all not equal. There will be somebody better than you, so you will have to try and outgun them. At the Sametime though, don't be so cutthroat, try to actually be helpful and make connections within your field. Nobody wants to be on a team where the other person wants to be the best and ignores the rest of them. Bad MOJO.

Create a following on LinkedIn and Twitter. In times of crisis, you will be surprised on how this could help you.

Happy Hunting and Good Luck.

EDIT: Also never settle, don't just stop at a job. Don't ever settle just for a job. Others will say it is completely fine to have a job and live life. But it is my opinion that depending on the field you are working in, this may not be the best advice. As the famous Kara Goldin states in her book Undaunted. "Never place all your eggs in one basket." IE means only having one income. Diversify, if you can. When you get a job, start a service-based business. I am starting to think/believe you be in a far better position if you served more people than just one. This way you aren't relying on one person or employer. Then focus on one business that your product becomes a moat and then you service one to many. It is is never okay just to have one income source from a job, because what happens is you build a life around that paycheck. if one consumes so much they create so much parasitic debt. You then become chained to the lenders and people you owe. Theirs nothing wrong with Credit or Debt. It's just how people use it.

The formula people need to pay attention to is this: Production (What you earn at the end of the month) x Consumption (What you consume each month) = Net Profit.

Formula:

Production - Consumption = Net Profit (at the end of each month)

If you only produce $4,500 a month, but yet consume over the amount of money you earn. Well you will get a negative Net worth.

So increase the production, lower the consumption and thus you will get a positive cashflow Net Worth or income at the end of the month.

~$4,700 (Production from Salary) - $3,000 (Expenses) = $1,300 x 12 = Net Profit per year made.

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Find STEM related jobs. As much as I am starting to not like them.... due to my recent layoff. Just know that not all jobs are safe. You instead need to learn to be valuable to the marketplace. Anything in life we do as a risk. Even starting a business is a risk, but could be the better option due to today's job market. I am only familiar with tech, so anything else, I don't know of and I'm sure others can chime in.

Degrees essentially will become obsolete in the future after years you apply yourself In the job market. My degree is just tells employers. I can do one thing and stay at one place for very long. All knowledge from classes are theory anyway. Your paying ~$50k total for a degree that gives you information. However, most senior jobs will want something. If and when you get a masters that will be enough. Don't forget though you will need to apply your years of service first.

Instead of doing a passion, look athe marketplace for jobs that are indemand and learn those skills instead. Doing this whole "I love computers" things essentially killed my passion for the field. So I do have to agree with with Steve Jobs and MJ states about the passion concept.

I'd say do something that's relevant in the STEM field, don't waste money on a degree that won't get you anywhere. Also, be careful on the costs. You don't have to go to some fancy University for a degree. The big names have reputation, what matters is whether can you get the job done much more.

Also, pay attention to the market or industry that you are in. Are job layoffs on the rise? Are people posting about being laid off? Are big companies cutting headcounts? Pay attention to these signals, because it will be about time to either change yourself, do something completely else, or it will be tike to update/upgrade your skills.

Another flaw I did, is never, ever stay stagnate, don't be complacent. Always be on the move learning new skills. In the job market, you are essentially selling yourself and the skills you've learned for an hourly rate or an per year annual salary. It's you vs 1000s of applicants for one role. Competition is fierce, we are all not equal. There will be somebody better than you, so you will have to try and outgun them. At the Sametime though, don't be so cutthroat, try to actually be helpful and make connections within your field. Nobody wants to be on a team where the other person wants to be the best and ignores the rest of them. Bad MOJO.

Create a following on LinkedIn and Twitter. In times of crisis, you will be surprised on how this could help you.

Happy Hunting and Good Luck.

EDIT: Also never settle, don't just stop at a job. Don't ever settle just for a job. Others will say it is completely fine to have a job and live life. But it is my opinion that depending on the field you are working in, this may not be the best advice. As the famous Kara Goldin states in her book Undaunted. "Never place all your eggs in one basket." IE means only having one income. Diversify, if you can. When you get a job, start a service-based business. I am starting to think/believe you be in a far better position if you served more people than just one. This way you aren't relying on one person or employer. Then focus on one business that your product becomes a moat and then you service one to many. It is is never okay just to have one income source from a job, because what happens is you build a life around that paycheck. if one consumes so much they create so much parasitic debt. You then become chained to the lenders and people you owe. Theirs nothing wrong with Credit or Debt. It's just how people use it.

The formula people need to pay attention to is this: Production (What you earn at the end of the month) x Consumption (What you consume each month) = Net Profit.

Formula:

Production - Consumption = Net Profit (at the end of each month)

If you only produce $4,500 a month, but yet consume over the amount of money you earn. Well you will get a negative Net worth.

So increase the production, lower the consumption and thus you will get a positive cashflow Net Worth or income at the end of the month.

~$4,700 (Production from Salary) - $3,000 (Expenses) = $1,300 x 12 = Net Profit per year made.

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Thanks for this response.

I would only consider degrees in stem in general but the ones I have been thinking about are

1. Something specific in engineering (medical, nanotechnology, robotics etc.)

2. Chemistry (low on the list though)

3. IT ( 70k a year after uni or 3 years of working experience offers everywhere)
 
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Thanks for this response.

I would only consider degrees in stem in general but the ones I have been thinking about are

1. Something specific in engineering (medical, nanotechnology, robotics etc.)

2. Chemistry (low on the list though)

3. IT ( 70k a year after uni or 3 years of working experience offers everywhere)

Engineering, Medical, and IT will always be in demand. Just don't settle. You could technically learn a service skill such as Web Design and pick up the phone today and possibly get a project with consistent effort as well.

Other things to note:
1. Beware of companies with Cashflow problems. Usually, this will result in a workforce reduction or layoff as you see that is happening in the IT field at this moment. As the late Tom Golisano states (Founder of Paychex), if a business has a cashflow problem, it just means they have a sales problem.

Example:
1. I picked up the phone and started calling apartment complexes to possibly start a service such as Valet Trash. However, I found out that they had compliance laws I had to obey. Two out of 5 apartment complexes stated they were interested. Things I would need a truck, hard work, and persistence. More on this list actually to do actually than what I stated here.

I thought well if I had at least one apartment complex unit with say 400 units and I charged $5 dollars per door. Well, that's almost $4,000 a month. Little overhead if you do it yourself and other related expenses.

My apartment complex has about 800 units, we were paying $20 bucks per door. You do the math, you do it 5-7 times a night. Doesn't seem half bad.
 
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Thanks for this response.

I would only consider degrees in stem in general but the ones I have been thinking about are

1. Something specific in engineering (medical, nanotechnology, robotics etc.)

2. Chemistry (low on the list though)

3. IT ( 70k a year after uni or 3 years of working experience offers everywhere)
I’m a fan of mechanical engineering, it will help you in literally any and every aspect, and you can use it to do the widest array of jobs. I have an ME
 

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I am now getting close to my A-levels and with that the end of my time in high school.
Since uni is basically free in Germany (the best private Unis take like 2k per semester and some take literally less than their bus ticket costs) I will go there as long as nothing crazy happens in the next few months. If all goes well, my plan is to get a master’s degree in six years or less and then have some valuable technical skill that helps me provide value to the world.

No, I don't want the forum to make a life decision for me. What I am asking for, are some suggestions, things to check out and options to think about. I am also looking at other sources and options such as getting into a trade or simply starting an entry job as a dev which teaches you the needed skills from step one and onwards.
What I hope to find are simply some ideas that I might not have thought of.

Thanks in advance,
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Every business that gets big enough ends up in high finance.

Leadership is how you get there.

Economics is how you become a good investor of the money you make.

I did finance, economics and management.
 
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Great advice above already.

I’ll just add that programming skills are good for life. It forces you to think logically. Even if not a degree, having some courses in that space will help you long term.

More than anything, enjoy this time of life. Make the best of it.
 

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I studied civil engineering in University. Content-wise it wasn’t useful at all. I did learn some new ways of thinking and decision-making when dealing with uncertain situations + analytical skills which did come in useful.

If your goal is entrepreneurship, I don’t think anything in particular is useful to study. If I had to pick something though, I’d say psychology. Knowing how to deal with people is perhaps the single most useful skill, though it’s still very general and you’ll need to find specific applications yourself (you do have the obvious one — coaching, lol!)

If your goal is entrepreneurship in a particular field, say AI, then study that field in University. Make sure that the field you study though will enable you to practice entrepreneurship right away if this is important to you — what I studied, for example, didn’t enable me to practice entrepreneurship straight away… if I wanted to pursue it I’d have had to spend years working a job.

Oh… one more thing. The university you go to is usually more important than what you study. And what matters about the university you go to is the network it opens up to you. Investors. Other entrepreneurs and so on. For example, in the US Stanford is well-known for its connections in the business world, esp. Sillicon Valley. I also screwed this one up — I went to the university that was no. 1 for what I was studying, but didn’t have great business connections/networking opportunities.
 

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went to the university that was no. 1 for what I was studying, but didn’t have great business connections/networking opportunities.
I wish I heard this earlier before getting into a local uni.

The education quality is almost the same (I think) across many unis, what makes them stand out is the connections they have with the market. If I were to go back in time, I'd try to get into a uni which has good connections to the marketplace (I had 90%+ aggregate and was an A student so it was possible). Anyway, we can't reverse the moves we made on our chess boards.

I don't regret my decision, I know now what I need to do when choosing my Masters.
 
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More than anything, enjoy this time of life. Make the best of it.
How? I keep hearing from old guys wishing they spent more time having fun/not taking it too seriously in their early 20s. I take everything seriously and treat life as a game meant to be won. This sentence you said went off the top of my head. If you could take the time out to elaborate, I'd appreciate it.
 

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Oh… one more thing. The university you go to is usually more important than what you study. And what matters about the university you go to is the network it opens up to you. Investors. Other entrepreneurs and so on.
Yep.

I was an idiot and didn’t take better advantage of this.

I just wanted to be done by the time I graduated. I didn’t foster many connections despite a nice large network.
 

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My Recommendations - as AI is slowly but surely taking over with OpenAI working on Super-intelligence alignment which they predict might come within 4 years.

1. Mechatronics - the best degree for this AI age, was my one of my picks before I found a problem to solve in the gaming industry. This degree will give you knowledge in both software and robotics which would set you apart from the thousands of CS and Mechanical Engineer graduates. This would also be useful to build a robot startup - that would be the next big revolution after this AI wave for me. Also Mechatronics is relatively new academically so what you get is going to be rare which might help getting to opportunities first.

2. Computer Science - This ones a no brainer, AI age upon us - become the AI specialist. Skills will be in heavy demand as well as startups to start/work for.

3. Clean Energy - Probably a bit more into the future, but as Climate change starts to rage on earth, this will probably become really valuable and startups probably will get a lot of easy money from government/vc when that happens. I am not sure which degree to focus on for this - probably some engineering degree which specializes in solar power.
 
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How? I keep hearing from old guys wishing they spent more time having fun/not taking it too seriously in their early 20s. I take everything seriously and treat life as a game meant to be won. This sentence you said went off the top of my head. If you could take the time out to elaborate, I'd appreciate it.


@Saad Khan thank you!

It is a legitimate question and I’d like to clarify a few things:
  1. I don’t feel old, and hope I am not acting like some “old guy”.
  2. ”…wishing they spent more time having fun” I don‘t have such regrets, so my comment isn’t to self, but to younger people. There is a way to live a life, achieve things, have a dog and a family, have fun as a young adult, all of that - AND become successful in business.
  3. I have some bad news for you. Life is not a game. And If it were, you’d lose because we all die. That’s the end. Every single person - dies.

But I know where you are coming from, you meant something different than a “winning the game of life” and will do my best to share my perspective.

Winning in life for me means many things:
  • Becoming the best version of myself
  • Having love, laughter, joy, health, experiences and being useful. Useful to other humans, especially to my family.
  • Leaving a legacy, not just financial, but hopefully with some wisdom to pass down generations (lofty goal, I know).
  • I believe we are all here on this earth for a purpose, and finding out what mine is a life-long goal too. I don’t think we are nothing and going back to nothing. I think our lives have meaning.
You will notice that none of the above has a “Lambo“ in it... I am no monk either, if you read my posts you’ll know me as a type-A hard driving person. Yet believe me, I enjoy my life as much as possible and I do that on purpose.

My story of teens to 20s:

By the time I was 19, I’ve
  • studied abroad on two continents (on academic scholarship and paid my way … all the way)
  • learned and became native speaker fluent in English.
  • surfed, kayaked, had fun and gorgeous girlfriends
in my 20s
  • got a university degree AND a professional designation...
  • worked many jobs, shitty and good and then great…
  • learned golfing, then mountain biking (downhill, big mountains, big jumps).
  • Even after I met my wife, as a gf she was by my side and we together had a lot of fun.
  • We travelled a lot, across the world. We explored and discovered ourselves.
  • We did everything we could think of, from camping to helicopter rides.
  • I raced cars, cheap and expensive
  • had a few side hustles (always)

I am not sharing this to brag. I was also poor back then, because I had no silver spoon, most of the above was done on a budget. And ALL of this was out of my own pocket.

——


So you see, this isn’s some “go with the flow of life and do nothing“ advice. I was always active, worked hard on my goals and played hard.

The thought behind my advice is simple: you don’t know if you die tomorrow or 100 years from now. Why wait? Enjoy what you can when you can it, but be mindful that you may live 100 years more (if you are a teen).

Imagine you are approaching 100 years of age and know your time is almost up, what regrets do you have? Do you regret not spending more time in front of a computer or working? Maybe, if you are broke! But I’d like to think with tools given on this forum, every person should be able to at least be NOT broke… so that leaves us with: regret of spending too much time working when young. Or working inefficiently and not spending enough time with your family. Or never having a family at all. And so on…

And I’ve met a few people who were 100% committed to business and business only from a young age. Yet some didn’t make it and some are still behind me. Why is that? Because being well rounded helps. Having a life helps become well rounded.

Dive a little deeper with me … do you think that some people are naturally better at some things than others? Like some people naturally learn math faster? If yes, than it makes sense to find out what you are naturally predisposed to being good at. Because that something can bring a huge financial return easier than for a duck learning how to run. Duck wants to swim.

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I don’t remember when I made my first million. That’s the truth. Because business life isn’t linear and it’s not like a lotto either. What I mean is that typically the success you see out there wasn’t built by 5% annual growth, for 20 years. Nor was it “easy” like scratching that lotto ticket and getting your exit number all at once.

More often than not, it’s like a roller coaster ride. You get to a high right before a rapid down only to ride high again. Some people hate that roller coaster, they puke, come out and say “never again”. Others, like me, we love it, we go “wheeee!!!” and can’t wait to ride more and bigger.

You see, even in business, have fun - you must learn to love it, love THAT “game”.

And when you do all of that, one day, you have kids, they bring joy and pain. When your kid gets sick, you wish it was you, and again, none of that “business” or “Lambo” matters. Nor the hobbies I had in my teens or 20s… it faded. I have no regrets but I bet that if you only work on your business 24/7, you’ll regret not having a life early too. Don’t wait for that.

If you still don‘t believe me, look at younger audience here. Maybe take Johnny boy, he’s young. Yet he works super hard and then shoots guns, travels, enjoys life as much as he can too. Or better yet, take Kyle @Kak - he is a perfect example of a young person who lives life on his own terms. Sure he grinds too, but do you know how many times I get pics from his latest BBQ, golf, kids, shooting etc.? You’d get the impression he never works, but he does.

That’s what I mean by my comment. Hope you and other young forum readers find it helpful.
 
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I'm 15 and going to pick my subjects for my year 11 (I'm based in Australia NSW) So reading this to prepare myself and expect things for uni or for my future hehe...

I love the value the community give back to us teens when choosing uni courses. Love it when the "older" people who are much more experienced and step in and say "this is my advice I wish I knew when you were younger..." I'm really grateful to be in this forum with such supportive forum members!

Ight, now imma just read the whole thing about uni in this forum and this thread and WRITE IT ALL DOWN AND BRAINSTROM! Muahahaha!!!
 

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Hey. @Subsonic,
I'm 18 and I'm starting my 3rd year of university soon (which I don't much care about, but anyway).

I am studying business and lets just say it is less than useful. You can learn all you need from books, and it will be so much more quality.

I've also studied programming myself and got a job (before I knew TMF was such a great thing)

But you know what I'd really go for if I am to go back and choose again? Something that learning yourself is extremely difficult.

Gosh I'd like to know chemistry, or learn industrial engineering right now. It would make my previous inventions work so much better.

And that kind of engineering can't be outsourced. You can learn anything, but learning chemistry or engineering (the real engineering) is very difficult on your own.

If you apply a Fastlane mindset plus good engineering I believe nothing can stop you.
 
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Hey. @Subsonic,
I'm 18 and I'm starting my 3rd year of university soon (which I don't much care about, but anyway).

I am studying business and lets just say it is less than useful. You can learn all you need from books, and it will be so much more quality.

I've also studied programming myself and got a job (before I knew TMF was such a great thing)

But you know what I'd really go for if I am to go back and choose again? Something that learning yourself is extremely difficult.

Gosh I'd like to know chemistry, or learn industrial engineering right now. It would make my previous inventions work so much better.

And that kind of engineering can't be outsourced. You can learn anything, but learning chemistry or engineering (the real engineering) is very difficult on your own.

If you apply a Fastlane mindset plus good engineering I believe nothing can stop you.
does this mean that we should consider degrees or subjects that are difficult to learn by yourself or online? See a degree that solves problems, high in demand, difficult to learn by yourself/ chatgpt/internet resources, and a wont be replaced by AI as options to consider?

I feel like STEM related areas could be a great choice (being conditioned to think this way from the forum) or just trades since tradesman are on the decline nowadays.

what do you guys think?
 

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does this mean that we should consider degrees or subjects that are difficult to learn by yourself or online? See a degree that solves problems, high in demand, difficult to learn by yourself/ chatgpt/internet resources, and a wont be replaced by AI as options to consider?

I feel like STEM related areas could be a great choice (being conditioned to think this way from the forum) or just trades since tradesman are on the decline nowadays.

what do you guys think?
Trades will get you paid more than a STEM degree, and they will be the last jobs to get replaced by robots.
 

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Trades will get you paid more than a STEM degree, and they will be the last jobs to get replaced by robots.
thats honestly pretty true, i still need to know more about trades though. I know nothing about a tradespersons life and everything
 
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thats honestly pretty true, i still need to know more about trades though. I know nothing about a tradespersons life and everything
It’s not easy but you get to solve real problems, with your own hands. That’s a pretty cool feeling. Less drama, feelings, emotions than an office. They call it a cubicle jungle for a reason.. Go talk to some tradesmen, they’re usually good guys. Might rib you a bit but that just comes with the territory.
 

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If my kids want to go to college (which is heavily subsidised here in Ireland) then I'll encourage them to do something they enjoy otherwise they'll be miserable for 4 years, and something where they pick up a skill they could freelance easily for (e.g. video production and editing since one is already doing that at 12 years old).
 

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