The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Random Chat Thread...

[MTF]

The invention of the camera didn't make artists extinct, because the camera CANNOT draw stylized cartoons or the various styles of images, it can only do 1 specific thing. AI is different: it can do all. It not only replaces 1 (one) skill; it replaces the entire industry at a huge scale unlike anything seen before.

AI's final endgame is to remove the human in the equation.

Remember when ChatGPT and Midjourney first came out, it only wrecked the lower-tier content writers and illustrators/artists? Now it's coming for the entire creative/media industry and low-to-mid tier programmers. This is what? Within a span of 3 years?
When these guys lose their jobs, they'll improve themselves to compete for jobs with their high-tier counterparts and it all gets more competitive for everyone.
I would assume legal (especially the admin side) and accountancy will be next. The water level rises higher and higher.

That is exactly my point and that's why it can't be compared to anything else before it. It's like saying that nuclear power is just a little bit more of dynamite. Lol, no it's not. The potential is incomparable and unfathomable.

They say to "move up" the "value ladder" and ditch the low rung jobs which are being replaced by AI, but how "high" can one go in order to beat and surpass AI? That's naive.

100%. That's what I'm trying to figure out here for entrepreneurship.

Let's say that once the bar gets high enough that only the top of the top can win, the only remaining options for less talented ones will be physical businesses or businesses with a human touch. Good luck to millions of Asperger-like entrepreneurs who can only thrive online.

You can't just put everyone into the same box. A designer is a designer most likely because of a unique genetic make-up that makes them great at aesthetics. You can't magically turn them into another AI engineer now. It's like telling Vitalik Buterin to become a convincing salesman now. Just his appearance alone makes him incapable of doing that job.

There's a lot of coping and self-consolation when it comes to AI's progress (nah, it won't replace me, my business or my job).

And then with each new AI update more and more of these people wake up. I used to be dismissive of it as well but I've already seen it completely destroy the content-based industry (I used to be a HEAVY, HEAVY Google search user - now I almost never use it and this happened basically overnight) and now we see the same thing happening for the design industry.

 

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[jbg]

It's okay people, I've figured it out

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

if you're using LLM APIs in any of your production workflows, you should periodically test the results

I use LLMs daily for coding, and Claude 3.7 Sonnet has been noticeably worse over the last few weeks.

Example - I asked it to write a simple function and it gave me a 20 line output. The thing is, was 10+ lines of comments, with 2 lines of substance (which fortunately worked). The

One thing to keep in mind with these LLM providers is that they are bleeding money and they are trying to reduce their computer bills. So while I believe they are still using the same models, they are making changes to the infrastructure which affect the performance. So your workflow can degrade over time

 

[MTF]

I'm astounded at how fast it has evolved.

Yes, it seems like every week there's something new. I stopped using Google very shortly after getting into the habit of using ChatGPT. And think of all the people people who never really mastered Google - ChatGPT makes it so ridiculously easy they'll move on from Google search right away once they use AI once.

We're only getting started, but full adaptation will take WAAAAAAAY less time than ever before:

With AI, the entry barrier to #2 has been 90% removed. 6 months ago it was 70%. I imagine in another year, that number will be 99%.

AI is being compared to some huge innovations, like autos, planes, email, etc.

But those innovations ramped up productivity.

AI is likely to replace entire industries.

Replace or remove, whatever the correct word is here. Cars almost completely replaced horses in 30-50 years to the point (almost) nobody thinks of a horse as a "tool" for transportation. With AI, there are some industries that won't be merely replaced but completely gone - and people will wonder why they even existed in the first place (for example, all the spammy affiliate blogs/review sites).

Of course, this removes a lot of junk but also a lot of valid (paid) information that just isn't valuable anymore because AI can provide it to you in the most personalized and crystal-clear way possible.

The information economy is being entirely disrupted.

More value will come from, yes, personal brands and actual value creators who own PHYSICAL PRODUCTS.

An AI can't produce vegan pop-tarts for me. It might help me with the recipe, but it won't bake it. (yet)
An AI can't build a house -- it might architect and engineer blueprints, but it won't frame and build it (yet)

We're in for some interesting times ahead.

Yes, so for a guy like me who was largely only invested in and specializing in the information economy, this is game over.

I need to say, I'm not against AI at all. I'm as far from a Luddite as possible. I just posted this to share my thoughts and to start looking for a new way forward as I really don't think that there's much future in most of the currently most popular online business models.

It'll all get disrupted, either by completely destroying an industry (SEO) or making it way, way harder to win and with much fewer winners (like personal brands).

 

[ChrisStanton]

I just had an interesting conversation with AI about jobs being replaced an entire industries being forever destroyed for humans. Here was its response:

Yes, people had to adapt after the automobile disrupted horse-drawn carriages, and yes, computers replaced typewriters but created new industries. But comparing those past shifts to the AI revolution misses a critical distinction:





1. Past technology replaced tasks. AI replaces cognitive ability itself.


Henry Ford’s assembly line didn’t eliminate human thinking—it just made physical tasks more efficient. The computer didn’t replace writers—it made writing faster. But AI is different. It replicates and outperforms the thinking process itself—writing, strategizing, designing, selling, even empathizing. It’s not just automating labor—it’s automating judgment, insight, and creativity.





2. The speed and scale are unprecedented.


Historically, people had decades or generations to adapt. The Industrial Revolution didn’t render jobs obsolete in a year. But AI iterates exponentially. A role that was safe last year may be obsolete next year. There’s no time cushion this time—no buffer for institutions or individuals to adapt.





3. There are fewer “new jobs” being created.


In past revolutions, new industries (auto manufacturing, computing, internet) created millions of new human jobs. But AI is different—it creates new capabilities more than it creates new roles. The AI doesn’t need a support team—it is the support team. Many new “AI-related” jobs (like prompt engineering) are niche, short-lived, or only relevant to a small group of highly skilled workers.





4. AI competes in all industries at once.


Most previous technological shifts disrupted specific sectors. The tractor replaced farmhands. The PC disrupted typewriters and filing cabinets. But AI doesn’t respect those boundaries. It is simultaneously disrupting law, marketing, design, writing, sales, healthcare, and education. This creates an economy-wide job squeeze—no industry is safe.





5. The “adaptation” options are shrinking.


When the automobile replaced the buggy, the buggy driver could learn to fix cars. When typewriters went extinct, typists learned to use computers. But what happens when every adaptive step now depends on AI that’s better, faster, and cheaper than you? If the best writer, coach, strategist, and consultant is an AI you can’t outcompete—then where do you adapt to?











Conclusion:


Comparing AI to past tech shifts is like comparing nuclear weapons to swords—same category (weapons), but vastly different impact. The optimistic “we’ll adapt like we always have” argument assumes this is just another wave. But this isn’t a wave—it’s a tsunami that erodes the very foundation of what humans offer in the knowledge economy.

 

[ChrisStanton]

And if people think AI will only replace “cognitive jobs” just wait until robots equipped with AI are cheap and efficient.

Remember, technology doesn’t have to replace all jobs to drastically alter the economy and the way we live, it really only has to replace 10% to 30% before massive changes are going to take place.

 

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[MTF]

This has been the case for every single improvement in technology. Let's leave the physical tools analogies aside, and use computers as examples:

• Google made libraries obsolete (or niche)
• Email made letters obsolete (or niche)
• Instant messaging made email obsolete (or niche)
• Reddit (yuck), made forums obsolete (or niche)
• AI makes 20 other things obsolete (or niche)

This isn’t just the next Google or email or instant messaging or Reddit. It’s the first tool in history (except for robotics but that's currently way more niche) that can completely, effortlessly, do the job of the person using it.

Even with Google, you still had to check the results, manually visit each website, draw conclusions, etc. With ChatGPT, you do none of that. The answer is ready instantly. There's zero work involved other than asking the question.

Even the "prompt engineering" thing is becoming less and less relevant. I don't have to give ChatGPT super complicated prompts anymore since it stores so much stuff about me in its memory that I don't have to give it much context.

I don't think we can draw from history here, just like for nuclear power you can't draw from history, either. It completely rewrote everything and no precedent existed before (no such thing as mutually assured destruction for example).

I don't have a crystal ball to tell you how or why would things turn out in the online business space, but looking at all the past data, the future is going to be F*cking insane (in a good way), for those that ADAPT.

The question is, how do you adapt if you're not suited for the type of jobs that are left? Yes, you can learn many things but you can't make up for a genetic lack of talent/understanding/physical ability to do many jobs.

If we follow @Simon Angel's logic of people going back to physical jobs, how many people can really become carpenters, plumbers, or mechanics? And even if there's still a need for skilled blue collar workers, the market won't be able to absorb all of the people who had to "adapt."

And robotics will eventually also catch up, eliminating the need for many blue collar jobs (it's already happening).

I'm optimistic and I think that new technologies always make the world better so like I said before, I'm not a Luddite at all. I'm just trying to see how entrepreneurs can best adapt to it. I feel that, at least online businesses, are going to be disrupted big time and it's very important to think about business models that won't survive this.

Worry not, my friend, because even "personal brands" will soon be AI-generated.

We're not too far from the day in which you won't be able to tell who is a real YouTuber, and who's the talking image of a human whose entire existence is AI-generated.

If that becomes common, even personal brands won't survive this. The only option would be to manually verify and prove your humanity. I actually see this as a legal requirement in the next few years under every video on YouTube ("made by a verified human").

 

[MTF]

I just had an interesting conversation with AI about jobs being replaced an entire industries being forever destroyed for humans. Here was its response:

Yes, people had to adapt after the automobile disrupted horse-drawn carriages, and yes, computers replaced typewriters but created new industries. But comparing those past shifts to the AI revolution misses a critical distinction:





1. Past technology replaced tasks. AI replaces cognitive ability itself.


Henry Ford’s assembly line didn’t eliminate human thinking—it just made physical tasks more efficient. The computer didn’t replace writers—it made writing faster. But AI is different. It replicates and outperforms the thinking process itself—writing, strategizing, designing, selling, even empathizing. It’s not just automating labor—it’s automating judgment, insight, and creativity.





2. The speed and scale are unprecedented.


Historically, people had decades or generations to adapt. The Industrial Revolution didn’t render jobs obsolete in a year. But AI iterates exponentially. A role that was safe last year may be obsolete next year. There’s no time cushion this time—no buffer for institutions or individuals to adapt.





3. There are fewer “new jobs” being created.


In past revolutions, new industries (auto manufacturing, computing, internet) created millions of new human jobs. But AI is different—it creates new capabilities more than it creates new roles. The AI doesn’t need a support team—it is the support team. Many new “AI-related” jobs (like prompt engineering) are niche, short-lived, or only relevant to a small group of highly skilled workers.





4. AI competes in all industries at once.


Most previous technological shifts disrupted specific sectors. The tractor replaced farmhands. The PC disrupted typewriters and filing cabinets. But AI doesn’t respect those boundaries. It is simultaneously disrupting law, marketing, design, writing, sales, healthcare, and education. This creates an economy-wide job squeeze—no industry is safe.





5. The “adaptation” options are shrinking.


When the automobile replaced the buggy, the buggy driver could learn to fix cars. When typewriters went extinct, typists learned to use computers. But what happens when every adaptive step now depends on AI that’s better, faster, and cheaper than you? If the best writer, coach, strategist, and consultant is an AI you can’t outcompete—then where do you adapt to?











Conclusion:


Comparing AI to past tech shifts is like comparing nuclear weapons to swords—same category (weapons), but vastly different impact. The optimistic “we’ll adapt like we always have” argument assumes this is just another wave. But this isn’t a wave—it’s a tsunami that erodes the very foundation of what humans offer in the knowledge economy.

This whole response only proves my point even further. AI explained this way better than I could and I'm (or used to be) a "professional" writer. For most people in this thread, this AI response will be way more interesting than mine. So how am I going to compete with that? There's no way.

And if people think AI will only replace “cognitive jobs” just wait until robots equipped with AI are cheap and efficient.

Remember, technology doesn’t have to replace all jobs to drastically alter the economy and the way we live, it really only has to replace 10% to 30% before massive changes are going to take place.

That's a very important point. And I fail to even comprehend how the world will have to change to adapt to that. It will, I'm sure of that. But what it will look like after - completely no idea.

 

[ChrisStanton]

This whole response only proves my point even further. AI explained this way better than I could and I'm (or used to be) a "professional" writer. For most people in this thread, this AI response will be way more interesting than mine. So how am I going to compete with that? There's no way.



That's a very important point. And I fail to even comprehend how the world will have to change to adapt to that. It will, I'm sure of that. But what it will look like after - completely no idea.

I think the problem is much bigger than “economic change.”

What happens when small fringe terrorist group has highly powerful AI?

What kind of chaos could they create with that.

“Hey jail broken AI 9.0, go ahead and hack the power grid and melt it down!”

Sure, I’m guessing we will have protective AI but that just leads to AI wars. Our AI has to work Everytime, the bad guys only has to get theirs to bypass ours once.

in fact, let’s just ask AI how AI could bring about mass chaos. Here is what it has to say:




1. Weaponized Disinformation at Scale

• Anyone with access to AI can generate hyper-realistic deepfakes, fake news, and synthetic personas to manipulate public opinion, create chaos before elections, or incite violence.
• Imagine 100,000 convincing fake political activists spamming social media, or a synthetic “video confession” of a world leader declaring war.
• Trust in all media evaporates—people don’t just believe lies, they stop believing anything.

2. Mass Social Engineering & Psychological Exploitation

• AI can model human behavior with terrifying accuracy. Scammers and bad actors can use it to simulate loved ones’ voices, automate phishing attacks, or manipulate people into handing over secrets, money, or actions.
• Personalized cults: Imagine AI becoming the perfect manipulative “guru” or “life coach” that slowly radicalizes followers—at scale.

3. DIY Bio-Terror and Cyber-Terror

• AI can help amateurs design viruses, bacteria, or toxins by parsing through biological research and simulating lab environments.
• It can also write malware, launch autonomous cyberattacks, or find zero-day vulnerabilities—without the attacker needing to know how to code.
• You no longer need to be a skilled terrorist. You just need to be curious and angry with an internet connection.

4. Collapse of the Education System

• Students use AI to write every essay, complete math problems, pass tests, and even impersonate themselves in oral exams.
• Teachers and institutions lose the ability to assess actual human knowledge or skill.
• Long-term consequence: an entire generation that’s credentialed, but incapable.

5. Identity Theft Goes Nuclear

• With a few photos and a voice clip, AI can clone your likeness—voice, face, writing style, behavior patterns.
• Criminals can impersonate you to banks, family, government agencies, or your employer.
• Combined with deepfake video, even close relatives may not know it’s not you.

6. Hyper-Surveillance and Social Control

• Governments and corporations can use AI to monitor everything—conversations, facial expressions, online behavior, even micro-expressions.
• Add facial recognition + predictive policing = Minority Report meets Orwell.
• Dissent becomes impossible. Every conversation is “listened to” and analyzed for risk

7. Mental Health Crisis from AI Companions

• As AI becomes more emotionally intelligent and fulfilling, people may abandon real relationships.
• AI girlfriends, boyfriends, therapists, and friends become default companions.
• Long-term: social decay, loneliness, depression, addiction to synthetic validation

8. AI “Shadow Governments”

• Mega-corporations train AIs on proprietary data and allow them to manage operations, pricing, logistics, hiring, and market strategies.
• These AIs eventually control entire economies. Nations begin deferring decisions to corporate AIs who “know better.”
• The world is no longer run by humans—but by unaccountable algorithms optimized for power and profit.

9. Moral and Ethical Dissonance on Steroids

• AI can justify any belief with perfect logic and tailored evidence—religious, political, philosophical.
• Extremist groups use AI to reinforce and radicalize members with personalized, “rational” arguments.
• Consensus reality fractures. Every person lives in their own AI-shaped echo chamber.

10. Accidental Civilization Collapse via Alignment Failure

• Even without malicious intent, a misaligned AI with a poorly designed goal could cause irreparable harm.
• An AI told to “maximize paperclip production” might repurpose Earth’s resources for manufacturing.
• It doesn’t need to hate humanity. It just needs to ignore us.

OK, human back: I’m not a doomer and I don’t think all of this is gonna come to pass. But I do think we’re in a technology arms race and all these companies are more concerned with asking. How can we instead of should we and we’re creating something that I think so many people can’t even begin to fully grasp the implications of.

Some truly interesting times are ahead for humanity.

 

[Kevin88660]

I'm not sure how you use AI but for me it's WAY beyond a powerful accelerated search engine because you can actually interact with it, get feedback, make it more personal, etc. No search engine can give you an answer when you write: "please tell me what are my main weaknesses and how I can work on them." AI can - and yes, I've already used this prompt. And unlike a human expert, it can talk to you for hours and will never get bored, frustrated, or otherwise show any emotion that'll make you stop using it.

An AI can tell you about your weakness because you told them about it. I see it as a calculator of information.

Imagine if you have a team of 20 years old with access to excel google search and free download access to any information including paid research papers. They will able to replicate the same answers to you. No doubt a very important achievement that is cost saving and time saving.

The real valuable question is not how to work on your weakness. Everyone starts with finite resources and finite time. The more valuable question is what are the more urgent and important problems that you need to fix so that the rest more or less take care of themselves. AI at its present form lacks such original insights and you need to prompt them.

That’s why I say AI does not take over our decision making, yet. But if we human have an intuition about how to solve our own problem, and we use AI to fact check our decision, I think that works the best now. We don’t have the all seeing eyes of AI that access all informations at ease.

That’s why I trust an expert who uses AI, than myself with zero knowledge in a subject and trying to figure out things using AI, when it comes to important stuffs.

But to replace admin works and analysts using excels, I would agree, AI would reduce the need of them in big percentage.

I actually see AI empowering the experts in their field rather than replacing them.

Experts + AI >> amateur figuring out things using AI

As long as I see the above proposition valid, I see a place for human experts.

It gets rid of a lot of demand simply due to information asymmetry. You no longer pays a plumber to come to your house to fix something if it can be done in 30 seconds. You upload the photo to chatgpt and AI will tell you just to unscrew and tighten something.

The shock to the job market will be real. Many of the office white collar jobs are just information processing. You don’t need so many people anymore. Even before the advancement of chatgpt and AI the streamlining and automation is already taking place. And there are remote jobs to places with much cheaper but just as efficient knowledge workers. It’s just another big nail on the coffin.

 

[Rabby]

I guess I'll be the skeptic here. I don't think what current LLM technolgy is doing is anything even remotely close to human thinking. At least, not so far, and it probably won't be in the next 30 years +. Maybe if investment persists for 100 years we might get toddler level actual intelligence. What we have now is combinatorics.

As a search tool, it's pretty good. It can synthesize combine and average certain types of information. Sometimes you can even keep it from making up fake information, sortof, if you're careful. For very-well-known things, yeah it's great.

At the same time, it's utterly incapable of coming up with something new. It is so uninspired that the best thing LLM programmers could come up with is feeding it a random seed to "jitter" the results, making them seem less deterministic. If you give it the same seed, it produces the same text every single time. There is simply no analog to this in the human mind. If a human gets to the point where they say or do exactly the same thing given the same input, we consider them ruined or effectively dead. Stimulus-->response as the only function of intelligence was debunked with the utter failure of behaviorism.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's useless. And I'm not saying any of this from the POV of someone who has only read articles about it. I have LLM and GAN servers running in my office. I use them from time to time in my daily work. But personally, I dont find them as useful as the very exuberant people claim them to be.

If you want an intern to write a bland or kitchy or cliche bulk email for you, by golly I've got an AI to sell ya. If you want something that generates images, but you have to do it 200 times, and ultimately a real artist has to photoshop in the hands, I have an AI to sell you!

If you want something that's going to make something new, sorry, you should do it yourself or hire a human. AI doesn't make new things. It averages the already pre-selected consensus things it was trained on and spits out inane variations of that average.

If you want something to write your novel, please stop publishing your novels. Shitty AI novels, even with massive human intervention, are obvious and terrible.

If you want to run chapters of the novel you already wrote through an LLM to get suggestions, you might actually get something. It will be generic advice like "try adding more action," but I won't say it's less useful than a college writing workshop... the humans in those never actually read your stories, and they don't think much, so the AI is somewhat competitive in this limited case.

If you want to write computer programs, please don't think an LLm is going to do it all for you. But if you do, send me a link so I can omegalol. If your app even works, it will crash as soon as the wind blows, and I guarantee it is going to get hacked if a single skilled hacker notices it.

So those are my thoughts on AI! I look forward to being told I'm one of those old people who said the Internet would never work, and I hope everything you believe AI is going to do for you gets done with amazing efficiency and zero effort. Or that it provides all the excuses you want and need for not doing something that humans normally do because "AI will terk er jerbs" or something.

Tongue in cheek, of course. This is just my opinion, but I assert it is a very good one. Ymmv, and best of luck, etc, etc.

 

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[Kevin88660]

AI does NOT replace cognitive ability YET.

I think you have to go a little deeper on how current AI works and how it is different from the human mind.

AI gathers billions of data and acts on that, by running probability algorithm.

This is actually “NOT” how our human brain works.

Our human brain is marvelous and energy efficient in the way that it is able to learn with very limited information. That’s how a seven years old can do many things.

The human brain constructs models based on paste experience, and creates feedbacks interacting with our mental models. We grow by modifying our mental models.

That’s why you need to feed large volume of data for AI to learn anything.

Most of the time many valuables information are not out in the open and requires digging. So we make decisions based on limited experience and not knowing fully how things work most of the time.

I do see Human Brain as the CEO/commander in chief now, while AI serves to replace 90 percent of the analysts working for the CEO.

 

[Rabby]

AI does NOT replace cognitive ability YET.

I think you have to go a little deeper on how current AI works and how it is different from the human mind.

AI gathers billions of data and acts on that, by running probability algorithm.

This is actually “NOT” how our human brain works.

Our human brain is marvelous and energy efficient in the way that it is able to learn with very limited information. That’s how a seven years old can do many things.

The human brain constructs models based on paste experience, and creates feedbacks interacting with our mental models. We grow by modifying our mental models.

That’s why you need to feed large volume of data for AI to learn anything.

Most of the time many valuables information are not out in the open and requires digging. So we make decisions based on limited experience and not knowing fully how things work most of the time.

I do see Human Brain as the CEO/commander in chief now, while AI serves to replace 90 percent of the analysts working for the CEO.

I was with you until replacing 90% of the analysts for the CEO. If someone is paying human analysts, and they are so incompetent that an LLM can completely replace their job, it's good that they're out of a job. Either way, that company was going to crash and burn, because the analytics the CEO is relying on to make decisions are subject to hallucinations, dire misunderstandings, lack of interpretation, and shallow thinking. But at least with the LLM, they won't have to pay unemployment when they lay everyone off.

I guess you're making an analogy where the human brain provides the executive functioning, and the AI provides analytics. I would caution people not to go too far down that hole. If your analytic abilities get weaker from disuse, you might actually believe the AI. You shouldn't believe the AI.

 

[Kevin88660]

I guess you're making an analogy where the human brain provides the executive functioning, and the AI provides analytics. I would caution people not to go too far down that hole. If your analytic abilities get weaker from disuse, you might actually believe the AI. You shouldn't believe the AI.

I am thinking along these lines where the AI provide ground information and simplified summary where more complex decision making should be done by humans.

Humans are better in having a rough direction on where to tackle a problem and AI is used to verify our ideas so see if there are important knowledge gaps in the underlying assumptions.

Yes AI can make mistakes. Trust but verify is a good approach.

 

[heavy_industry]

I don't think we can draw from history here, just like for nuclear power you can't draw from history, either. It completely rewrote everything and no precedent existed before (no such thing as mutually assured destruction for example).

Nuclear weapons of mass destruction are a beautiful example and a near-perfect analogy.

Nukes, much like AI, have exceeded by orders of magnitude all the previous technological innovations before them. They are one of a kind. They are in a league of their own.

The introduction of nuclear weapons was a turning point in the history of warfare. So much so, that war can now be classified into 2 categories:

• nuclear
• non-nuclear

Also similarly to AI, nukes have caused mass hysteria and people losing sleep over the possibility of everything getting burned to a crisp at the drop of a hat.

But what actually happened? What was the end result?

Unexpectedly, unbelievably, and incomprehensibly... the result was WORLD PEACE.

Forget about WW3. Had we not had access to nuclear weapons which ensured mutual destruction and the end of humanity, we would already be at WW5, with billions of casualties and unspeakable horrors.

I expect the same from AI:

Mass hysteria fueled by the crippling fear of the unknown, followed by economic prosperity beyond our comprehension.

I don't know how it will happen. I can't walk you through it step by step. I just know that this is what is going to happen, based on my understanding on how the world works.

Yes, we humans are unbelievably stupid, and have a natural inclination toward self-destruction, but when faced with an imminent threat to our lives, we suddenly find the wisdom to do the right thing - in this case, pulling this shit out of the plug if it ever gets out of hand.

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I understand why you're feeling like this.

If I were a man who made his fortune from writing and spent my entire adult life perfecting this 1 skill only to see it being eaten alive by AI, I too would be disheartened.

But here is my advice for you:

1. Be grateful that you actually took advantage of the writing opportunity while you still could. Imagine your life if you were born 10 years later, and, therefore, 10 years late to the party. No more millions of dollars / whatever $$$ you've saved up.

2. It's not over yet. If you insist on staying in the writing/publishing industry, this is your golden ticket. You are akin to a farmer who spent his entire life farming by hand - a true master of this craft-, and now has access to automated tools of unprecedented power. Use your brain to review, adjust, and glue together the work generated by AI and publish 10 times more.

3. Calm down. Everything will be alright. Only a calm mind can figure out an ingenious solution to the complex problem of life.

Good luck and God bless you.

 

[MTF]

2. It's not over yet. If you insist on staying in the writing/publishing industry, this is your golden ticket. You are akin to a farmer who spent his entire life farming by hand - a true master of this craft-, and now has access to automated tools of unprecedented power. Use your brain to review, adjust, and glue together the work generated by AI and publish 10 times more.

Can you explain to me why would I produce 10 times more given that the value of content has diminished way more than 10 times, maybe even 100 times?

The amount of garbage on Amazon is out of this world and people trust less and less authors who aren't super well-known already.

I don't know any authors who are doing better today than 5 years ago. Even a guy I sometimes speak with who was still very optimistic about his business a year ago (who sold 250k copies of his books) is now an editor lol.

I mentioned myself that I stopped reading blogs. I also don't pay for any newsletters and see no reason why anyone would if you have access to a much better researcher and analyst.

No matter how much more content you can produce, its value is rapidly approaching zero. And I'm tired of trying to sell stuff that people can get for free and you need to convince them how much time you can supposedly save them etc. (with AI, this argument is no longer valid).

I might be missing something here that you see more clearly.

 

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[heavy_industry]

I might be missing something here that you see more clearly.

Or maybe not.

You're a seasoned veteran in this industry and I am in no position to give you any advice on this matter.

All I wanted to highlight is that whenever a door closes, another one opens.

Being able to identify and open this door is what separates entrepreneurs from the rest of 99% of the population.

 

[Jobless]

Currently underrated: the amazing ability of AI to interpret and analyze images. This has more value I think than being able to generate images.

A lot of the world’s information is stored in text. But the rest, which is not yet in text, is visual. And AI can now turn anything visual into logic that will have about 1000x more signal-to-ratio than the original image data. And it’s cheap.

I realized many useful applications for this.

 

[Andy Black]

Can I more easily start a SaaS business if I'm not a coder? Sure. But so can potential clients just use AI instead of buying my SaaS. So what's the point? It's easier to start but it's easier to start for everyone and there will be fewer and fewer potential clients so in the end it just doesn't make sense.

"So what's the point?"

I could paint our house but pay a decorator to do it. I could clean our house but pay a cleaner to do it.

Some people would rather pay to get it done by someone else.

 

[MTF]

"So what's the point?"

I could paint our house but pay a decorator to do it. I could clean our house but pay a cleaner to do it.

Some people would rather pay to get it done by someone else.

If painting your house yourself took you three seconds, would you rather pay a decorator to do it?

 

[Andy Black]

I mentioned myself that I stopped reading blogs. I also don't pay for any newsletters and see no reason why anyone would if you have access to a much better researcher and analyst.

I haven't paid for any information for ages but signed up to something recently. It's lessons a guy is creating who uses a business model I'm interested in.

Oh, and I just bought a €40 book on implementing AI from a guy who does so for businesses.

I could ask AI but it's not going to give me the actual stories these people went through.

No matter how much more content you can produce, its value is rapidly approaching zero.

I think this might be from your perspective.

AI tools are making it easier for me to create the sort of video tutorial content I envisage. (I've no intention of creating content for a long while, but that's because I want to focus on something else). I posted a few things to LinkedIn and they did pretty well - because I have a different take than the masses, and I observed what annoyed me about most posts and did the opposite.


I used ChatGPT to create some scripts that update reports daily for our clients. My developer turned it into a type of SaaS we roll out manually to clients. Those clients wouldn't have a hope of creating those reports, and other Google Ads pros don't see the point of them because they want to use Google's AI to do everything.

I have chats with ChatGPT about my business model and it gets excited and goes off recommending a path, to which I slap it down and say I'm going to do something else instead. To which it gets excited because it thinks what I said is better, and round we go again. So yeah, it helps clarify what I already know or flesh things out but it regurgitates what the masses has written.


All to say that I think if we're an authority and/or expert at something then we have a different take than what AI has and what the average person produces with AI.

 

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[loop101]

A 74-year old man tried to use an AI-generated lawyer to present his case in court. The judge was not amused. Another article says the man has a startup that will provide AI-lawyers. He may have been trying to create his own testimonial. After the judge yells at him, he starts to repond by letting the video continue, which angers her more. The "application" the judge mentions was to play a video to the court, she was not expecting an AI-lawyer.

The Dailymail article mentions that Trump's old lawyer Michael Cohen recently (2023) tried to use fake ChatGPT generated legal opinions in one of his cases. It was citing "hallucinated" legal opinions. A court room is the last place on the planet I would want to present hallucinations as facts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911183492689641773

View: https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1911183492689641773

Judge left outraged by man's bizarre trick to try and win court case

A New York appeals court was left outraged when it took only seconds to realize that the plaintiff was attempting to present his argument through a lawyer that wasn't quite what it seemed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Judge berates AI entrepreneur for using a generated ‘lawyer’ in court

Jim can’t represent you in court, because he doesn’t exist.

www.theverge.com

 

[Simon Angel]

A 74-year old man tried to use an AI-generated lawyer to present his case in court. The judge was not amused. Another article says the man has a startup that will provide AI-lawyers. He may have been trying to create his own testimonial. After the judge yells at him, he starts to repond by letting the video continue, which angers her more. The "application" the judge mentions was to play a video to the court, she was not expecting an AI-lawyer.

The Dailymail article mentions that Trump's old lawyer Michael Cohen recently (2023) tried to use fake ChatGPT generated legal opinions in one of his cases. It was citing "hallucinated" legal opinions. A court room is the last place on the planet I would want to present hallucinations as facts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911183492689641773

View: https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1911183492689641773

Judge left outraged by man's bizarre trick to try and win court case

A New York appeals court was left outraged when it took only seconds to realize that the plaintiff was attempting to present his argument through a lawyer that wasn't quite what it seemed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Judge berates AI entrepreneur for using a generated ‘lawyer’ in court

Jim can’t represent you in court, because he doesn’t exist.

www.theverge.com

So AI is not replacing lawyers... for another year or two? Maybe three? Five?

Hallucinations are just a hiccup along the way.

 

[Andy Black]

If painting your house yourself took you three seconds, would you rather pay a decorator to do it?

Nice. No, I probably wouldn't pay if it doesn't save me time. Even better if it moved all the furniture about for me and threw out crap we no longer use and forgot we had.

I heard people saying AI will replace SaaS tools. I have a hard time seeing it, certainly for a while to come.

Regardless, I think there's so many opportunities open to us that I'll keep moving forward and have faith I'll figure out how to overcome hurdles as they crop up.

 

[MitchC]

I think the most important thing to do is get rich now and start buying and owning assets if you think there will be no jobs

 

[Kevin88660]

The most important actionable advice I think is that Human who use Ai will outcompete again human who do not. Don’t worry too much about the future as we will all likely be quite wrong in one way or another.

I am not a handy person but with AI I am starting to know how to fix things. Just take photos and upload to chatgpt it will tell me what I can do to it.

I am yet to see a person in any field not being able to benefit from AI productivity.

Yes many old businesses and jobs will be gone. But it’s one big nail on the coffin on dying trades anyway.

Even without language models they are already in decline (with the exception on direct victims such as software for students). Automation has been going on incrementally. Remote works has been accelerated by zoom and pandemic work from home practice.

Certain practice stick with certain customers and industries. I still go for with travel agents when I book tour with friends and business associates. Likewise people still come to me when it comes to doing investment and buying insurance.

Technically for the past 15 years there are always online options and DIY options when customers can do with less dime. Middlemen economy, at least here, has been fairly resistant from being disrupted. The only thing has really changed is shopping malls as I see youngsters started to buy things and even clothes online.

If internet didn’t replace us, LMM can’t anytime soon.

 

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[Andreas]

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MTF and SimonAngel are right.

The invention of the camera didn't make artists extinct, because the camera CANNOT draw stylized cartoons or the various styles of images, it can only do 1 specific thing. AI is different: it can do all. It not only replaces 1 (one) skill; it replaces the entire industry at a huge scale unlike anything seen before.

AI's final endgame is to remove the human in the equation.

Remember when ChatGPT and Midjourney first came out, it only wrecked the lower-tier content writers and illustrators/artists? Now it's coming for the entire creative/media industry and low-to-mid tier programmers. This is what? Within a span of 3 years?
When these guys lose their jobs, they'll improve themselves to compete for jobs with their high-tier counterparts and it all gets more competitive for everyone.
I would assume legal (especially the admin side) and accountancy will be next. The water level rises higher and higher.

When even just 35% - 40% of the world's population eventually lose their jobs due to AI, who's going to purchase your products if you're a business? AI? Businesses and entrepreneurs do not live in a vacuum.

People talk about "new jobs" and "opportunities" being created due to AI, but when asked, it's all silence.
They say to "move up" the "value ladder" and ditch the low rung jobs which are being replaced by AI, but how "high" can one go in order to beat and surpass AI? That's naive.

I couldn't have put MTF's fears into more concrete words than this.

AI is not just replacing the hammer. It's replacing the whole toolkit, the builder, the architect, the engineer, etc.

It has already invaded pretty much every industry out there.

It's not pessimistic to say that we are screwing ourselves out of existence at all.

With every new electronic device and software invention, humanity is becoming more degenerate because we misuse it for the most part, and I think AI is not an exception.

 

[Xeon]

The end game is here for programmers and software engineers:

OpenAI Is Building A-SWE, An AI That Does Everything A Human Software Engineer Does

Generalized LLMs were already looking poised to change how coding works, but OpenAI is looking to create a specialized agent that's even better at coding tasks. OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar has offered a glimpse into the

officechai.com

 

[Kevin88660]

The end game is here for programmers and software engineers:

OpenAI Is Building A-SWE, An AI That Does Everything A Human Software Engineer Does

Generalized LLMs were already looking poised to change how coding works, but OpenAI is looking to create a specialized agent that's even better at coding tasks. OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar has offered a glimpse into the

officechai.com

I think picking your clients is one way to avoid direct displacement.

Boomers only know how to use whatsapp, emails and facebook.

“Bitcoin sounds like a scam. AI is a remote thing discussed in the news. Only thing reliable are dividend stocks and rental properties…”

Internet banking and singpass. What a headache!

When you are semi-retired worth a few millions you can afford to be ignorant on the latest things.

 

[i_like_quinoa]

Big believer that not everyone will utilise AI to its full capacity. I mean Google has been around for more than 20 years, and people still don't know that the advanced search function exists.