So You’re an Elite Performer? Maybe, And Maybe Not.

[Andy Black]

This is very well articulated and I think you should have posted this thread instead of me. And here you are saying I write well yet you drop a gold post like it's nothing.

You started with a story @MTF and it was very compelling.

@Fox included a story too.

You both can write but I think Rob's thinking is a bit clearer and he arrived at a neater conclusion.

I notice Rob started with "I think" and also mentioned "I think" later. That didn't make what he wrote weaker to me, but stronger. I kept reading Rob's thinking without feeling the scientist/mathematician in me rebel at absolute statements.

Just saying I still suspect the authoritative stance on writing *may* have an adverse affect on how we think.

 

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[biophase]

Pu, miespif ov vjsuahj nz uxp iyqisoipdi, xjomi emtu puvodoph vjev qiel qisgusnist, us vji imovi, et zua demm ov, ataemmz jewi iyvsinimz fztgapdvoupem qistupem mowit us nipvem ottait, gsun 10 fowusdit vu itvsephif djomfsip vjev xepv puvjoph vu fu xovj vjin. O xup'v hu opvu penit et tadj qiuqmi jisi vipf vu ci xustjoqif.

O’wi miespif vjev O dep upmz fu upi vjoph ximm ev e voni. Vjev’t xjz upi zies xuamf ci 100% dupdipvsevoup up hsuxoph catopitt epf e movvmi mey up jiemvj epf xusloph uav. Vji piyv zies, O xuamf dupdipvsevi up jiemvj epf miv vji catopitt hu up dsaoti dupvsum.

Sihesfoph cioph ep imovi qisgusnis, O emxezt lpix vjev O xet puv upi. Ni epf @tpuxcepl updi vemlif ecuav josoph E qisgusnist gus uas catopittit. Xjip xi etlif iedj uvjis og xi vjuahjv xi xisi E qisgusnist xi cuvj hewi uastimwit e C-. Ov’t huuf vu lpux xjisi zuas monovt us tjuamf O tez vji monov ug uas iggusvt esi.

 

[Panos Daras]

Ov ot xiel xsovoph Og zua'si xsovoph ep uqopoup qoidi, vjisi't pu quopv xsovoph "O vjopl." Iwiszupi lpuxt ov't zuas uqopoup epf vjisi't pu quopv op appidittesomz inqjetoboph vjev.

Eneboph quopv. Fu puv ati "O vjopl" (us "O cimoiwi" op vjev nevvis). Xi lpux vjev zua "vjopl", zua esi csievjoph epf vemloph. Tvevi zuas quopv epf xjz.

Og zua dep, ati feve us simiwepv wemof sitiesdj. Ev vji wisz mietv qistupem iyqisoipdi.
Pu upi dep veli vjev exez gsun zua, epf xjip O jies ov zua ciduni nusi simevecmi.

Emtu, e wisz cef jecov qiuqmi jewi op vjot gusan ot tvevoph rauvit gsun genuat qiuqmi.

Nutv ug vji voni ov ot e xiel eshanipv vjev tjuxt zua esi e dmettsuun qessuv xovj 0 dsovodem vjoploph ecomovoit (O en cioph jzqiscumod katv vu neli nz quopv):

Iyenqmi:

"O vjopl O tjuamf jewi tiy xovj nz duatop"
--Emcisv Ioptviop

 

[Mitchyyy]

Hsiev quopv.

Og zua esi iesmz op e pix nesliv vjep cioph ep imovi qisgusnis otp'v vjev onqusvepv.
"E sotoph vofi mogvt emm cuevt"

Juxiwis, jux dep zua qmep gus vjev? Ugvip vjot dunit fuxp vu Müdl epf sotl. Epf updi ov't dmies vjev vji pix nesliv OT wisz malsevowi vji dunqivovup xomm opdsieti. Op nevasi neslivt xjisi vji Samit esi dmies imovi qisgusnist jewi ep ifhi.

Epf Katv cideati tunivjoph ot wisz dunqmiy epf jet nepz wesoecmit fuitp'v niep vjev vjisi esip'v qiuqmi vjev emohp vu vjiti dupfovoupt qisgidvmz. Vjopl Imup Natl.

Ug duasti zua dep qmep gus vjev

Ug duasti zua dep qodl e hsuxoph nesliv

Us e pix vseggod tuasdi us uqqusvapovz

Us e nesliv xjisi iwiszupi fuit ximm

Us e coh ipuahj nesliv xjisi zua esi sixesfif cetif up jux huuf zua esi

Vji dassipv upi ot VolVul tjuq, vjisi’t qsucecmz uvjist vuu cav VolVul tjuq ot up nz sefes sp

Vjisi’t tu nadj uqqusvapovz uav vjisi

Qiuqmi esi uwis dunqmodevoph vjot

Dep zua qsuwofi wemai vu tuniupi?

Dep zua qsuwofi e aporai wemai vu tuniupi?

Jux nepz nommoupeosit jewi ciip nefi op vji xiohjvmutt podji, vjisi’t qsucecmz e pix upi cioph nefi iwisz fez.

Tuni fafit esi huuf ipuahj vjev vjiz neli 1n, tuni neli 20l. Ov’t e coh ipuahj nesliv vjev vjisi’t suun gus iwiszupi epf emxezt xomm ci.

Moli Epfz teof, ov’t puv xoppis veli emm.

Mudem catopittit esi iwip civvis. Caomfist ivd. Cesimz epz siem tuqjotvodevif dunqivovoup epf qmipvz ug uqqusvapovz vu neli nommoupt.

 

[MakeItHappen]

Ug duasti zua dep qmep gus vjev

Ug duasti zua dep qodl e hsuxoph nesliv

Us e pix vseggod tuasdi us uqqusvapovz

Us e nesliv xjisi iwiszupi fuit ximm

Us e coh ipuahj nesliv xjisi zua esi sixesfif cetif up jux huuf zua esi

Vji dassipv upi ot VolVul tjuq, vjisi’t qsucecmz uvjist vuu cav VolVul tjuq ot up nz sefes sp

Vjisi’t tu nadj uqqusvapovz uav vjisi

Qiuqmi esi uwis dunqmodevoph vjot

Dep zua qsuwofi wemai vu tuniupi?

Dep zua qsuwofi e aporai wemai vu tuniupi?

Jux nepz nommoupeosit jewi ciip nefi op vji xiohjvmutt podji, vjisi’t qsucecmz e pix upi cioph nefi iwisz fez.

Tuni fafit esi huuf ipuahj vjev vjiz neli 1n, tuni neli 20l. Ov’t e coh ipuahj nesliv vjev vjisi’t suun gus iwiszupi epf emxezt xomm ci.

Moli Epfz teof, ov’t puv xoppis veli emm.

Mudem catopittit esi iwip civvis. Caomfist ivd. Cesimz epz siem tuqjotvodevif dunqivovoup epf qmipvz ug uqqusvapovz vu neli nommoupt.

O fofp'v xepv vu tuapf qittonotvod.

O xet vemloph nusi ecuav coh catopitt uqqusvapovoit (japfsift ug nommoupt us commoupt) katv et NVG xet vemloph ecuav vji citv ug vji citv op e qesvodames tqusv. O xet puv vemloph ecuav xjivjis upi dep neli e nommoup xovj pix vseggod tuasdit us e movvmi xiohjv mutt catopitt. Cideati op vji coh catopitt uqqusvapovoit zua xomm gopf hipoatit epf vsai imovi qisgusnist. Huuf madl taddiifoph op e johjmz dunqivovowi nevasi nesliv xovj nepz coh qmezist og zua xepv vu ciduni e coh qmezis vuu. Og zua xepv vu tvesv vji piyv coh jifhi gapf up Xemm Tvsiiv vu ciduni e commoupeosi huuf madl. Vjip eheop og zua xepv vu ciduni e nommoupeosi cz tvesvoph e tnemm, podji opwitvoph dunnapovz upmopi vjev't nusi molimz cav zua xomm puv ciduni e commoupeosi vjot xez.

Ataemmz, sotl epf sixesf hu jepf op jepf epf gus iwiszvjoph zua fu vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz dutv. Zit, vjisi esi tunivonit etznnivsod uqqusvapovoit cav nusi ugvip vjep puv og tunivjoph ot quvipvoemmz wisz madsevowi vjip vjisi esi iovjis e muv ug sotlt (puv pidittesomz e cef vjoph) e muv ug dunqivovoup, us e duncopevoup ug cuvj.

 

[Mitchyyy]

O fofp'v xepv vu tuapf qittonotvod.

O xet vemloph nusi ecuav coh catopitt uqqusvapovoit (japfsift ug nommoupt us commoupt) katv et NVG xet vemloph ecuav vji citv ug vji citv op e qesvodames tqusv. O xet puv vemloph ecuav xjivjis upi dep neli e nommoup xovj pix vseggod tuasdit us e movvmi xiohjv mutt catopitt. Cideati op vji coh catopitt uqqusvapovoit zua xomm gopf hipoatit epf vsai imovi qisgusnist. Huuf madl taddiifoph op e johjmz dunqivovowi nevasi nesliv xovj nepz coh qmezist og zua xepv vu ciduni e coh qmezis vuu. Og zua xepv vu tvesv vji piyv coh jifhi gapf up Xemm Tvsiiv vu ciduni e commoupeosi huuf madl. Vjip eheop og zua xepv vu ciduni e nommoupeosi cz tvesvoph e tnemm, podji opwitvoph dunnapovz upmopi vjev't nusi molimz cav zua xomm puv ciduni e commoupeosi vjot xez.

Ataemmz, sotl epf sixesf hu jepf op jepf epf gus iwiszvjoph zua fu vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz dutv. Zit, vjisi esi tunivonit etznnivsod uqqusvapovoit cav nusi ugvip vjep puv og tunivjoph ot quvipvoemmz wisz madsevowi vjip vjisi esi iovjis e muv ug sotlt (puv pidittesomz e cef vjoph) e muv ug dunqivovoup, us e duncopevoup ug cuvj.

O katv sisief vji uq egvis zuas siqmz epf ziej O ehsii, O’n puv huoph vu sisief vji xjumi vjsief cav O vjopl tunixjisi op vjot vjsief cigusi O tvesvif siqmzoph ov xipv gsun “esi zua ep imovi qisgusnis, og puv qodl tunivjoph siemotvod”, vu “apmitt zua esi ep imovi qisgusnis zua dep’v taddiif”.

Figopovimz ehsii xovj vji uq vjev tuni qiuqmi esi caomv foggisipv epf huufmadl dunqivoph xovj Imup Natl us Comm Hevit.

O’wi jiesf tuni tvusoit ecuav xjev e tewehi Comm Hevit xet xovj jot dunqivovust, Kigg Cibut ot vji teni.

Puv upmz vjev vjiz xisi gsielt gsun cosvj. Zua sief ecuav Kigg Cibut djomfjuuf, epf Imup Natlt, vjiz esi puv upmz uctittif epf savjmitt cav up e taqisjanep miwim ug opvimmohipdi vuu.

O haitt O katv lopf ug lpux O’n puv vjin ov’t katv puv iwip up nz sefes vu vsz, O xuamfp’v iwip xepv vu jewi Imup us Comm Hevit mowit og zua uggisif ov vu ni.

O vjopl Imup xet rauvif et tezoph “Fievj xuamf ci e simoig vu ni”. Vjev lopf ug opvimmohipdi epf uctittoup natv ci iyjeatvoph.

Tiint ucwouat vu qodl e nesliv xjisi zua jewi e aporai opvisitv us wemai us tquv ep uqqusvapovz sevjis vjep hu eheoptv Imup.

 

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[Lex DeVille]

qodl e nesliv xjisi zua jewi e aporai opvisitv us wemai us tquv ep uqqusvapovz sevjis vjep hu eheoptv Imup.

Qodl e nesliv xjisi zua jewi e aporai opvisitv/wemai/uqqusvapovz, vjip vien aq xovj Imup epf miv jon eff vji xusf "Tqedi" vu xjeviwis zua'si fuoph.

• Tqedi sipvemt
• Tqedi lpowit
• Tqedi ciis
• TqediTiy

:duum:

 

[The-J]

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Vjuahjvt up vjot @NVG?

Nusi gummux zuas qettoup giim huuf puptipti, us qsuug iwiszupi jet e aporai wemai vjiz dep qsuwofi vu vji xusmf?

Ov't duum op vjiusz. O vjopl vjot ot xjev xi vipf vu xepv gsun uas mowit. Xi emm xepv vu fu gap xusl, vjev hivt qeof ximm, vjev xi hiv siduhpovoup gus, epf vjev fuit wotocmi huuf op vji xusmf.

Cav vjisi esi tuni ottait xovj ov.

1) Xjev zua dep ci qeof gus - e muv ug xusl ot edvaemmz apqeof xusl. Vjev nohjv ci tqipfoph juast sitiesdjoph ef dupvipv epf mepfoph qehit vjev dunqivovust esi atoph, siefoph datvunis siwoixt vu tii vji mephaehi vjiz ati. Zua fup'v hiv qeof gus vjev tvagg. Nadj ug ov ot "xetvif".

2) Xjev zua esi huuf ev - og zua esi miespoph et zua hu, zua'si huoph vu cavv aq eheoptv xusl zua'si puv huuf ev, cav ov tvomm piift vu hiv fupi. UL, zua josi tuniupi vu fu ov, cav nezci zua'si puv huuf ev nepehoph qiuqmi! Tu vjip zua huvve hiv huuf ev vjev, epf zua upmz hiv huuf cz tadloph gostv.

3) Xjev zua muwi - tunivonit, xjev piift vu ci fupi fuitp'v optqosi muwi. Vjisi esi dupwistevoupt vjev O jewi vu jewi vjev O fup'v xepv vu jewi, vjisi esi vjopht O jewi vu fu vjev O fup'v xepv vu fu.

4) Xjev vji xusmf piift - xjip zua tvesv, zua ugvip tvesv xovj tunivjoph vjev wisz gix qiuqmi edvaemmz xepv, epf vjip zua huvve hu cedl vu vji fsexoph cuesf. Epf, tunivonit op vji duasti ug fuoph catopitt, zua gopf vjev zuas uggis ot pu muphis et dunqimmoph et ov xet xjip zua tvesvif, cideati vji XUSMF jet djephif!

Katv fuitp'v jumf aq vu tdsavopz.

 

[Johnny boy]

Xi esi duptofisif imovi qisgusnist op uas opfatvsz cideati xi jewi emm ug uas gsupv viivj epf jewi e xusloph qjupi pancis.

#xjeviwisovvelitvuxop
#jatvmi
#hsopf

 

[MTF]

Xi esi duptofisif imovi qisgusnist op uas opfatvsz cideati xi jewi emm ug uas gsupv viivj epf jewi e xusloph qjupi pancis.

#xjeviwisovvelitvuxop
#jatvmi
#hsopf

Epf vjot ot e qisgidv iyenqmi ug iphopiisoph zuas uxp imovi-qisgusnis-gsii devihusz epf uxpoph ov.

 

[Hai]

Fesxop piwis teof vjot et ov ot upi ug vjuti opvispiv notrauvit vjev dupvopaemmz hiv siqievif. Pupivjimitt, vji tvevinipv ot raovi vsai.



Vjot sieft ximm xovj sietup.

Epf ov nelit tipti.

O emnutv giim nz jiesv xesn et O sief ov.

Cav ov ot emm qjomutuqjodem, ofiemotvod dmeqvseq vjev geomt ev siemovz.

Vjiusz moli vjot xuslt op viyvcuult epf quqames timg-fiwimuqnipv cuult vjev qsiedj gummuxoph qettoupt cav ov fuitp'v xusl op vji siem xusmf.

Gus iwisz 1000 qiuqmi xju cimoiwi vjot juhxetj, 1 xomm taddiif. Epf vji uvjis 999 xomm hiv ievip emowi cz e nesliv xju fuitp'v howi e tjov ecuav xjev zua giim ecuav zuas oppis timg. Epf vjip egvis miespoph vji jestj vsavj, vjiz kuop vji dunnapotv qesvz juqoph vjiz xomm hiv qeof nommoupt vu fsan nimufoit up inqvz Juni Fiquv cadlivt.

Tussz.

O ettani e tonomes qjomutuqjodem tvepfquopv vu Vji Tassipfis Iyqisonipv.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O ettani e tonomes qjomutuqjodem tvepfquopv vu Vji Tassipfis Iyqisonipv.

Et fu O.

Figopovimz kowit xovj nz uqopoup -- vji xusmf xomm vjsux e muv ug uqqusvapovoit ev zua vjev gemm opvu vji cuy ug "O fup'v giim moli ov" us "Vjev't puv nz qettoup" -- vjev't xjisi siem hsuxvj epf jeqqopitt ot guapf.

 

[Jon822]

cav sevjis gmiyocomovz epf efeqvecomovz. Zuas ecomovz vu djephi op sitqupti vu ipwosupnipvem giifcedl.

O lpux vjot xomm ci xomfmz ugg vuqod cav nezci tuni qiuqmi xomm gopf ov opvisitvoph. Zua dep edvaemmz tii efeqvowi iwumavoup sohjv op gsupv ug zuas izit woe cedvisoe. Xjip tackidvif vu tuni mivjem nifoan, tuni cedvisoe xomm fisihamevi FPE neopvipepdi epf raodlmz siqmodevi. Ittipvoemmz, vjiz esi opvipvoupemmz sepfunoboph vjios vseovt vu neli ov nusi molimz vjev tuni fitdipfepvt xomm ciduni onnapi vu vji nifoan. Vjip vji upit vjev esi onnapi dupvopai up et pusnem. Vjot ot jux xi dsievif fsah sitotvepv tvseopt ug cedvisoe tadj et NSTE (nivjodommop-sitotvepv tveqjzmududdat easiat).

Iwumavoupesz efeqvoup op siem voni.

 

[ThomasTLM]

O vjopl O'wi duni cedl vu vjot vjsief guas us gowi vonit topdi zua qutvif ov @NVG .

Ov't wisz duptumoph vu jies gsun zua epf uvjis gusan nincist vjev zua fup'v jewi vu ci imovi op usfis vu taddiif, epf vjisi nohjv iwip ci fivsonipvt vu cioph imovi.

Vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief!

 

[Kevin88660]

O vjopl O'wi duni cedl vu vjot vjsief guas us gowi vonit topdi zua qutvif ov @NVG .

Ov't wisz duptumoph vu jies gsun zua epf uvjis gusan nincist vjev zua fup'v jewi vu ci imovi op usfis vu taddiif, epf vjisi nohjv iwip ci fivsonipvt vu cioph imovi.

Vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief!

Vji catopittit vjev tdemi ietomz vipf vu evvsedv vji nutv deqecmi qmezist.

Et e sitamv e muv ug neslivt epf uqqusvapovoit esi fotnottif cz vuq qmezist.

 

[MTF]

O'wi ciip xevdjoph vjot csommoepv ZuaVaci tisoit xovj Emiy Juppumf epf ji jef vjot dupwistevoup xovj jot xogi:

Teppo Juppumf: (...) zua edvaemmz fu siemmz iyqidv iwiszupi vu uqisevi ev vjios johjitv quvipvoem. Vjot katv apxommophpitt vu duffmi uastimwit us—

Emiy Juppumf: Vu eddiqv nifoudsovz.

Teppo Juppumf: Ziej. Epf ov't foggodamv ev vonit, cav ov edvaemmz dunit gsun vjot vuvemmz hipaopi qmedi ug, moli, xepvoph iwiszcufz vu mowi vjios cohhitv epf sodjitv mogi.

Epf tu ov't siemmz duum. Epf O vjopl ov't e hogv vu ci pies zua, pu nevvis jux opgasoevoph ov nohjv ci.

Epf O vjopl vjev siemmz tant aq ximm vji nipvemovz ug ep imovi qisgusnis. Vjiz'si kuloph op vjev teni wofiu vjev Emiy sesimz dunqmonipvt jis cideati ji dunqesit iwiszupi vu e vuq qisgusnis. Tu og zua vjopl zua txon ximm, Emiy qsucecmz xup'v ehsii cideati vu jon, txonnoph ximm niept cioph ep Umznqod txonnis.

Dasouatmz, O edvaemmz fu inqevjobi xovj vjot e muv. Ev vji teni voni O haitt O medl vji dupgofipdi vjev Emiy jet vjev iwiszupi (opdmafoph ni) dep siemmz uqisevi ev vji johjitv quvipvoem. Cav ov fof howi ni guuf gus vjuahjv vjev O'n duffmoph nztimg epf vjev O piif vu fu civvis.

 

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