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Free registration at the forum removes this block.everyone comes off as a guru.
Using the word manipulation and SEO in the same sentence shows me why you failed and couldn't recover ranking.I quit the SEO game in October last year. As mentioned by others, there is zero control and the next Algorithm update can end up being your last one.
I played the Google index manipulation game from early 2010 when you could rank tough keywords with high PR forum profiles (good days...). Then progressed to high PR homepage backlinks and long story short, took a startup (not mine, sadly) from nothing to around £6 million in commissions (financial sector business). We held the number 1 spot in Google for the best keyword for 6 months before getting hit by a major Algo update.
By then the company had made its money but we started over with new site but it was never the same again.
I wouldn't go back to SEO. Too much stress and no control.
SEO is not about beating Google. This is the main reason people think it doesn't work.I already told you how to start. It's your turn to do it. If you try SEO tactics to beat Google's algorithm you'll bust. Use Andy's methods at driving traffic and you'll do well in driving traffic.
It's all referrals. Maybe ads in the future.What is your main client acquisition process like if you don't mind me asking.
Before crumbling away.
Look, I'm not trying to get in a pissing match, I'm saying there is a right way and a wrong way to rank and stay ranked.
I don't understand this. I just landed a 7k /mo deal yesterday.I've known Becker from a distance for a number of years now and followed him from being very much a nobody to one of the most well known people in SEO. Ironically, the only reason I read Millionaire Faslane was because Becker was constantly recommending it everywhere.
Be careful assuming that SEO will make you easy money. I've been doing SEO for about a year now and have bought a lot of Becker's products and I've still yet to make much. Not to say that money can't be made, but Becker has a talent for being very charismatic and making it all sound so easy when that isn't the case.
Whether you should do SEO really depends on what your aims are. If you just want to earn a little money on the side, I'd say go for it. If you want to build a multi million dollar business then take a leaf from Becker's book and make products and software for people doing SEO.
Then why post this thread asking about how he does it?And no, when I understood the way it worked, that's why I was swayed. Because it may not seem easy but it certainly makes perfect sense as to how money is made on it.
I don't think that learning from someone could be called copying, though.
I looked through his reviews, who he is, ect, ect.
I think it's hard to get a grasp on how to learn this stuff because everyone comes off as a guru.
Oh, I learned from a guy on a forum. GURU. I learned from a guy on YouTube. GURU.
I'm just sort of confused as to how to even start. It's a lot to take in.
Hey man thanks for the help!Clickbank is a good resource for finding products to sell through Affiliate Marketing.
Setting up an account is free, as far as learning SEO
I learned from WEBCEO and SEOINPRACTICE. I also bought a book off AMAZON,
called SEO MANIFESTO. But keep in mind so much has changed with SEO and YES, there is ALWAYS competition.
I gave up after a little over a year, self teaching on this NICHE.Best Wishes to you though, some do really, well and go on to write books about what they know. Speak to ERIC FACAS, an Google Employee I know who might be able to even share more .Google Him.
I found this guy named Alex Becker, he's been doing SEO for roughly 6-7 years and is making 4.8 Million a year, most of which he reinvests.
What got me interested was the fact that he said he could do this WITHOUT having a product of his own.
Affiliate marketing, I believe?
Anyone with experience in this without having your own product?
http://source-wave.com/
That's his site and I plan to learn on that.
So in short - can I learn SEO and make money without having a product of my own ? Where do I find products to sell?
Thanks guys I'll give his posts a read tonight!You always seem to be swayed by the big $$$$ stories. Always chasing the almighty dollar.
Clickbank is a good resource for finding products to sell through Affiliate Marketing.
Setting up an account is free, as far as learning SEO
I learned from WEBCEO and SEOINPRACTICE. I also bought a book off AMAZON,
called SEO MANIFESTO. But keep in mind so much has changed with SEO and YES, there is ALWAYS competition.
I gave up after a little over a year, self teaching on this NICHE.Best Wishes to you though, some do really, well and go on to write books about what they know. Speak to ERIC FACAS, an Google Employee I know who might be able to even share more .Google Him.
Before crumbling away.Failed? It was an outstanding success.
I absolutely will! I would say I can't wait to learn this but it seems that anyone who tries to learn coding/Seo, Ect - just says forget it and outsources. Seems like the product is the thing to have and they end up hiring people to do it.
Well, at least for the coding.
Either way, I think will be an excellent skill to learn.
Definitely not saying it's impossible, I just don't think it's as easy as Becker will have you believe.I don't understand this. I just landed a 7k /mo deal yesterday.
Mind you I have positioned myself as an online marketing optimization consultant, not just another SEO. I do SEO, turn normal sites into sales funnels, email marketing etc. I turn a normal website into a 24/7 marketing titan. Not just rank for X Keyword. Although that happens in the process.
You say he is charismatic and makes it look easy. Maybe the reason it was easy to him is because he is charismatic. Read The Charisma Myth, it has helped me a lot.
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