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Moved outside as per request. Good luck @Xeon.
 

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I hope you can make this thread gold!

About the ferraris i have felt the same pain many times, in vancouver high end cars are more common,

And it always feels like someone is stabbing me in the heart when i see one.

As for the instagram give aways my luck hasnt been so great but fb ads (paid) have worked wonders for me, i find it extremely easy to drive traffic that way,

With everliker alot of your followers could be fake or useless, with my IG the majority of my followers are other businesses or bots, there is a few legit people that ive engaged with that i could possibly sell to later on.

Lately ive been thinking the end game of a pet business is food,

Are you just selling on shopify & woocommerce now?
 

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As for the instagram give aways my luck hasnt been so great but fb ads (paid) have worked wonders for me, i find it extremely easy to drive traffic that wa
Yeah, I stopped giveaways on IG some time back after I realized that it doesn't work for loyalty (people are in it just for the goodies). It can build brand awareness but there's better options.

With everliker alot of your followers could be fake or useless, with my IG the majority of my followers are other businesses or bots, there is a few legit people that ive engaged with that i could possibly sell to later on.
Everliker did get me real followers, but problem is, because those followers follow me out of a need to reciprocate my "kindess" for liking their posts, and not because my content is good, they're as good as dead followers, because they don't engage with my posts. And as you may know, with IG's new algo, if your followers are not engaging with your post within 10 mins after you post it, it dramatically reduces the Reach of that post meaning the Likes are terrible and 0 - 1 Comments.

Lately ive been thinking the end game of a pet business is food
Actually, on IG, there's a lot of innovative pet products in the sponsored ads. There's this gear thing made of light tubes that dogs can wear, and it glows in the dark which is good for night walks (imagine wearing light sabers and twisting them around their body), and dog scarves/socks/accessories, food (Honest Kitchen) and many more. Endless possibilities :cool:

Are you just selling on shopify & woocommerce now?
WooCommerce. Shopify is too limiting.

Hope to see you update your progress thread bud. It's collecting dust.
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IG has been a weird mix of hit & miss with me, sometimes its fine and sometimes not (algorithm I guess)

But the important thing is to engage with your customers/prospects in chat and develop at least some rapport.

Ive seen the LED collars in Vancouver they seem pretty neat, but food is a large portion of the market share that cant be ignored.

Thought of flea collars aswell although that's a tough one. There is a company on Amazon doing just shy of 7 figures (Serento?) Having read some of the feedback on the collars lots of dogs/cats ended up getting negative reactions, if you could come up with a better formula that could be a big hit aswell.
 

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I've always had a self bias of (oh wow I cant compete with Pedigree/Purina)

But seeing this is pretty nuts, never seen this on store shelfs... have always bought Pedigree/Purina/Raw meat & some other big name brands I'm forgetting...

Like MJ says tho, you just need a tiny percentage so in our case the industry is around 80 billion a year,

0.01% is $8m which is a fairly nice amount of FU $

The struggle here is to build a strong brand, a good book to look into is the story of Coke, crazy to think you can have a multi billion dollar company selling water + sugar
 

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IG has been a weird mix of hit & miss with me, sometimes its fine and sometimes not (algorithm I guess)

But the important thing is to engage with your customers/prospects in chat and develop at least some rapport.

Ive seen the LED collars in Vancouver they seem pretty neat, but food is a large portion of the market share that cant be ignored.

Thought of flea collars aswell although that's a tough one. There is a company on Amazon doing just shy of 7 figures (Serento?) Having read some of the feedback on the collars lots of dogs/cats ended up getting negative reactions, if you could come up with a better formula that could be a big hit aswell.
Just found it : Advanced Visibility Gear | www.noxgear.com
Beautiful light vests for dogs and humans!
I like their execution.

Another one: The #1 Dog Carrier Backpack | K9 Sport Sack
This one is a dog backpack. I see them on IG ads and in my feed all the time. They're donating a lot of their profits, which means they likely sold a lot.
They've 2098 reviews according to their website, so if 1 of every 10 customer reviews their product, that means they sold 20,980 bags. Each bag average $90, so 20,980 * $90 = $1,888,200 in revenue.
That's insane. Their IG game is pretty strong too.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the K9 dog sack; it looks kinda uncomfortable for the dog though, especially the bottom where the legs are. Maybe that's a gap to value skew! LOL
 

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Have you thought of shampoo? With the right marketing strategy I could see that exploding

Found a supplier that could get me bottles for around 1.5 USD ($1.95 CAD) way to expensive

Retail is around $5-15 on Amazon (Should be able to get it cheaper than $1)

You could either shoot for the moon and create a killer brand like Coca-Cola and charge a premium with some marketing angle

Or undercut prices (cheapest right now is $5.99 )
 
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Even if your barely making a profit the long term value of creating a customer and then up/down selling in the future is very valuable as once you have built a relationship they will be more inclined to purchase something else as you've earned trust

Think about a food brand you consistently buy, you are generally going to stick with the same one right?
 
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Just read most of this thread and to be honest I'm a bit bumped out that you haven't turned up a profit yet. But good things take time.

In terms of marketing/branding mid-price level niche goods, I find one of the best models out there to be Harry's; a shaving/grooming company.

If you take a look at their Instagram, what they essentially do is focus on their products and the lifestyle one can build around those. And they appeal to a younger more trendy audience through a minimalist style and by employing plenty of color. Check out their website as well and you'll notice the exact same thing. Other businesses employing similar branding/marketing include Soylent (meal replacement) and MVMT (watches).

For some reason, minimalism and close-up pictures turn to be very interesting to us 21st century humans. But since you're a designer, I'm sure you already know that. Get a good photographer and don't worry too much about your copy. Pictures > Words. Who knows, maybe you'll be crossing six figures in business revenues by the end of next year.
 

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Just read most of this thread and to be honest I'm a bit bumped out that you haven't turned up a profit yet. But good things take time.
Thanks for reading! Yup, it's taking a lot longer than I thought. Made a lot of false starts and wrong moves. Initially, I thought that all I needed was a website and products, but making the product and all the to-and-fro emails with suppliers took longer than I thought. From the look of things, I can only launch just a couple months before Christmas.
If I can rewind the time, I can finish all of these in 5 months or even less!

In terms of marketing/branding mid-price level niche goods, I find one of the best models out there to be Harry's; a shaving/grooming company. If you take a look at their Instagram, what they essentially do is focus on their products and the lifestyle one can build around those. And they appeal to a younger more trendy audience through a minimalist style and by employing plenty of color. Check out their website as well and you'll notice the exact same thing. Other businesses employing similar branding/marketing include Soylent (meal replacement) and MVMT (watches).
Spot on! Exactly the direction I'm going! I've been reading articles and books on how to use this sort of marketing angle for my products. Another good one is Method : method (@methodhome) • Instagram photos and videos and BigAss Fans.
It's crazy how these guys can turn boring house cleaning products and industrial fans into something so cool and attractive. Even a guy like me who has nothing to do with industrial fans is thinking of buying one of those BigAss Fans mugs and t-shirts because I want to be associated with their coolness lol

Who knows, maybe you'll be crossing six figures in business revenues by the end of next year.
LOL, my biggest dream is to eventually scale this up in the next 10 years so that I can hit a ~$100K net profit monthly, but I don't dare to think too much about this. Let's get that first sale first.
 

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I'm truly terrified, scared, lost, confused and literally shivering in fear. When I think of how little is in my bank account, I freeze in fright. What if all these doesn't work out? It's ok to fail when you've $$$ in your bank, because you've a cushion, but not so much in my case.
From having seen what you've posted here - you will make your target and some.

EVERYTHING you have done is conducive to becoming successful. I've seen others with less accumen do it, and some of those were dumb af.

The spreadsheet, process and everything you've listed here is *exactly* what's required to get a successful business together. I even did the "small window" trick when I worked at a local stationery company. Exactly the same setup as you - https://i.imgur.com/GIJaVyX.jpg - except instead of this stuff, I was writing SEO articles on LinkVana.

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I wanted to say that you need to stop with the self defeatist talk (I know it's hard but you really need to appreciate that you are living in one of the best business hubs in the world, and seem to be a very knowledgeable guy). You've had the initiative to get a decent job, stay at the job, read MJ's books, get a product sourced, manufactured and sent to a US fulfillment place AND stick at it for 6+ months. You're far ahead of most people. I know business veterans who'd shudder at the thought of what you've done.

You don't need to be "well hung" to have good sex, nor do you need to look like Brad Pitt to do well. They help, but they're not really what matters in the end.

This brings me onto something I learned a LONG time ago which I felt extremely pertinent to write...

You're letting your power go too easily. Rather than internalizing your energy, you're externalizing it onto results (or lack thereof), a "market", instagram and a whole range of other things (cars etc).

The BIGGEST thing I found from a number of ventures (some not dissimilar to what you're doing) is that you get the best results when you focus on YOURSELF. This is not to say you ignore MJ's wisdom, but rather than putting your energy into IG etc, think about it from the perspective of what YOU are learning and how the thing is growing. Everything in life is a transaction; some transactions are "bigger" than others... if you focus on extracting "something" from each, you'll perpetually grow. In the same sense, also consider what *you* are putting into each - this will give you an idea as to what results you're seeing.

If you want some MORE inspiration - check out this dude whom I found the other day: Meet Britain's wealthiest young entrepreneur who made £55m fortune doing EXACTLY what you are now.

I could write some more, but don't want to poo-poo your thread. You're already ahead of 99.99% of people - the only real thing you're lacking is market traction.

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Actually, let me give you a little tip I think about. The results you're seeing are the fruits. Everybody focuses on the fruits because it's what you see. However, the fruits are only possible because of EVERYTHING ELSE in the tree; most importantly the roots. The best people focus on the roots. If you focus on those, the fruits will take care of themselves when the time is right. Think about this when you don't want to "spend" on your venture.
 

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From having seen what you've posted here - you will make your target and some.

EVERYTHING you have done is conducive to becoming successful. I've seen others with less accumen do it, and some of those were dumb af.

The spreadsheet, process and everything you've listed here is *exactly* what's required to get a successful business together. I even did the "small window" trick when I worked at a local stationery company. Exactly the same setup as you - https://i.imgur.com/GIJaVyX.jpg - except instead of this stuff, I was writing SEO articles on LinkVana.

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I wanted to say that you need to stop with the self defeatist talk (I know it's hard but you really need to appreciate that you are living in one of the best business hubs in the world, and seem to be a very knowledgeable guy). You've had the initiative to get a decent job, stay at the job, read MJ's books, get a product sourced, manufactured and sent to a US fulfillment place AND stick at it for 6+ months. You're far ahead of most people. I know business veterans who'd shudder at the thought of what you've done.

You don't need to be "well hung" to have good sex, nor do you need to look like Brad Pitt to do well. They help, but they're not really what matters in the end.

This brings me onto something I learned a LONG time ago which I felt extremely pertinent to write...

You're letting your power go too easily. Rather than internalizing your energy, you're externalizing it onto results (or lack thereof), a "market", instagram and a whole range of other things (cars etc).

The BIGGEST thing I found from a number of ventures (some not dissimilar to what you're doing) is that you get the best results when you focus on YOURSELF. This is not to say you ignore MJ's wisdom, but rather than putting your energy into IG etc, think about it from the perspective of what YOU are learning and how the thing is growing. Everything in life is a transaction; some transactions are "bigger" than others... if you focus on extracting "something" from each, you'll perpetually grow. In the same sense, also consider what *you* are putting into each - this will give you an idea as to what results you're seeing.

If you want some MORE inspiration - check out this dude whom I found the other day: Meet Britain's wealthiest young entrepreneur who made £55m fortune doing EXACTLY what you are now.

I could write some more, but don't want to poo-poo your thread. You're already ahead of 99.99% of people - the only real thing you're lacking is market traction.

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Actually, let me give you a little tip I think about. The results you're seeing are the fruits. Everybody focuses on the fruits because it's what you see. However, the fruits are only possible because of EVERYTHING ELSE in the tree; most importantly the roots. The best people focus on the roots. If you focus on those, the fruits will take care of themselves when the time is right. Think about this when you don't want to "spend" on your venture.
It's rpeck the man himself! Thanks for the advice, I had to re-read it 3 times to absorb the goodness. I love the visual idea of the tree and the roots, it helps me to feel a lot better when spending money on my hustle.

Sometimes I wonder if you're a 65 year old business veteran hiding behind a 28 year old's avatar.....

I read previously that you're learning coding and design? Can't help with the coding part, but I can probably give feedback or critique on the design side :thumbsup:
 

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Thanks man, no I'm not 65 and that picture is from when I was 21.

Here's a picture my mother took of me recently:

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Will get back to you on the design stuff nearer to the time, if that's okay :)

Seriously - you're making epic progress. Any trepidation you're feeling is the equivalent of Neo waking up from the Matrix.

R
 

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I remembered MJ (praise and glory be upon him) saying it attracts guys instead of girls (aka dick convention), but this time, I've to disagree, because....the women were all whipping out their phones and taking pics of the Ferraris!
Could be because of your location/country.

From having seen what you've posted here - you will make your target and some.
Have to agree!
 

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Why does it matter about attracting girls with cars? Horrible thinking imo , when you become wealthy you need to join the stealth wealth movement. Tell people you are poor and act like it . That way you have genuine people in your life. Just my thought. When you are successful in life I can imagine people expecting handouts and the attitude of thinking hey this guy can afford the dinner bill he should pay it etc etc, why not avoid it completely?
 

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Could be because of your location/country.



Have to agree!
Being east asian myself and having a few relatives in Singapore, asian culture places a lot of emphasis on money even more than western culture. In North America you have a certain group of naive people saying how "money doesn't matter". In asian culture you'll rarely ever hear that BS and people are VERY JUDGEMENTAL on how much money you're making, what car you drive and if you have a house. For example, Xeon even mentioned earlier in this thread how this woman approached him asking him how much money he's making and comparing it to her son. When it comes to dating the women in general are a lot more receptive to wealth due to cultural upbringing.
 

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Just read through your whole thread. WOW. *applause* Do you have any idea how inspiring this is for a brand new person like me walking into this forum and taking a first-look around?

After our brief interchange on that other thread, I now see very clearly that I am the one who needs to learn from you and not the other way around. Just a couple of the things that blew my mind a bit...
  • You're navigating manufacturing, shipping, and distribution while bootstrapping it yourself on a salary that you say costs 2 months worth of pay to get your inventory.
  • You're developing your marketing long before your launch so that you'll have customers lined up and ready to buy when you release your product.
  • You're handling setback after setback and forging ahead anyway (not just the discouraging giveaway, but the loss of time & money...that's a big deal, and you're absorbing all of that as if it didn't make a trace of difference)
  • You're getting grief from random strangers who are harassing you about your pay and a college degree... wow... I can't believe that lady... but one day you'll show her and everyone like her how wrong she was to judge you.
  • You're focusing the best parts of your energy and attention on this business right now. You are a ROCKSTAR for doing that. Your future wife will thank you for choosing this season to focus on the business first, so that you can treat her like a princess later. Have patience with the relationship question. You're not a victim at all. You're building something that is going to give you the chance to call the shots.
Now, just a couple of ideas I had as I was reading through your thread... you may already be doing some/all of this stuff, and some of it might not be quite on target because I don't know what your product actually is. But...

Have you tried targeting dog trainers and veterinarians? They are like the hub of the pet world, and all the pet owners are the spokes. Google "dog trainer + [city]" and then look for the facebook pages of all the dog trainers, and then look at the list of all the people who have liked those pages. Target them (and lookalike audiences). Repeat with veterinarians. Another "hub" is the small, mom-and-pop pet food stores. If you can get your product into the hands of a few of these people, they have *real* relationships with a lot of the pet owners in the community, and this can help you to get traction.

Have you put up a website yet? If you haven't launched, this wouldn't be your full-fledged site yet. But you'll get a slight boost in terms of SEO if your site has been online for 30-60 days ahead of time to give Google a chance to crawl the site and see the keywords and know what the site is "about." Make sure you verify it as a property in Search Console so that you can get some indexing started immediately. It would just be placeholder content at first, but it would be SEO-friendly, keyword-optimized language (e.g. a home page, about page, product page, and couple of blog pages targeting your best keywords). It's not like the site will get visitors until you *actually* launch and start linking to it, but it can help a tad.

I take my hat off to you, sir. All the best!
 

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Thanks for the vote of confidence and detailed insight, Rebekah!

Have you tried targeting dog trainers and veterinarians? They are like the hub of the pet world, and all the pet owners are the spokes. Google "dog trainer + [city]" and then look for the facebook pages of all the dog trainers, and then look at the list of all the people who have liked those pages. Target them (and lookalike audiences). Repeat with veterinarians. Another "hub" is the small, mom-and-pop pet food stores. If you can get your product into the hands of a few of these people, they have *real* relationships with a lot of the pet owners in the community, and this can help you to get traction.
I haven't thought of that angle! I've been making a list of all the influencers on IG and studying their followers, to get a rough idea of who knows who and how they're connected, so the popular ones in each network are the "hub" like you say. From there I intend to get social proof and traction. Will definitely look into your suggestions!

The thing with the pet industry, I notice, is that each community is very active and passionate about their pet, which gives me a warm bed to work on.


--------------------- UPDATE ---------------------
(warning, long post ahead)
I want to take a moment to rave about this Eric's Cheesecakes thread here: NOTABLE! - Eric from Erics Cheesecakes
Many gold-tier information in that thread, which emphasises a more positive way of thinking. In particular, there's this insane paragraph from iammelissamoore which I quote below:

Imagine all the people in NC who are eating horrible cheesecake right now from some other company; now imagine how expensive some of those horrible cheesecakes are, and imagine how they are being robbed of that genuine cheesecake experience, are you seriously going to let them continue eating those horrible, expensive cheesecakes because the USDA have a lot of red tape all over their process? Do you think the horrible tasting cheesecake companies are allowing USDA or any other authority to prevent them from progressing? Nah man, you can't let people suffer, horrible cheesecake is just foul and you need to save these people - seriously, you need to get your cakes to these people - fast!
If you've a product which you feel is way better than your rivals, and YET you're not putting it out there due to your own laziness or self-doubts, that IS a CRIMINAL ACT and you should be JAILED. It's extremely VILE, SELFISH and SINFUL behavior!


--------- WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE LAST 2 MONTHS ---------
Custom Packaging : There’s a specific look I need the packaging to have in order to sync with my brand aesthetics. The two Chinese suppliers I tried earlier produced crap results. Found a 3rd one.
Costs were a lot cheaper, and it looks even better than the previous ones. Blessing in disguise.

Website : 95% ready. The contractor is fixing some shipping issues with the plugin and CSS minor tweaks. Other than that....I'm actually proud of how it looks. One lesson I've learnt : Do not build the website too early. I overestimated how long the products and other logistical issues took, and build the first version of the website in mid-Apr 2017. This is the last version, probably 8th iteration. Gave me lots of training and experience in using Wordpress/WooCommerce/Elementor and tons of other plugins and themes LOL

Product Photography : Results are impressive. I’m banking on this to blow my rivals to hell and never back! Good photography is insanely important and worth the $. I was unwilling to part with the $ previously. The photo editing should be ready next week or before 7 Nov.
For photographers, I strongly suggest looking for them in Russia and Eastern Europe. They've some really sick skills. It's like how the US is at the forefront of tech, China is the land of manufacturing, and these Eastern European folks are the champions in photography (and it's 3x cheaper than the US).

Warehousing : Products have been packed into their packaging, all in the US warehouse. They’ve kitted it and logged them into the inventory system. The storage cost is currently US$1.9 per month for my 200 pcs of products. This is excluding the account fees which is approx US$90. All well within my budget.

Long-term Survival Strategy 1 : Since my products fall more into the Want category and I foresee it would need some time for people to be aware of it (I've no social proof yet), I need to have enough funds to last for the long run (about 1.5 - 2 years after launch). I feel too many new businesses run out of funds quickly and gave up. On the social side, I'll create photographic content that showcases my models and products and how they're being used in daily life, with each picture telling a little story (no words, just imagery). The photos will also subtly show that my products are being "wanted" and "sought-after". I’ll then hire a Fiverr guy to do funny / pun / witty one-liner captions for those.

Long-term Survival Strategy 2 : To keep inventory low and stay lean while building up the brand and demand, I've found a few manufacturers who can do minimum 1 piece order quantity.
If I can rewind time, I would have ordered about 50% less products for my first batch previously. Never thought about it back then!

Financial bleeding per month : I've planned for very bad case scenarios (e.g: 0 sales after 6+ months). But generally, once the thing is launched, I should be able to keep 50% of my monthly savings and use the remaining 50% on the business.

Additional income : Next week, I'll be contacting this lady who showed interest in my part-time work application. I proposed to her that I'll work 3 - 4 hrs per day for her company, and all I need is ~US$350 per month. With this additional $, I can keep more of my monthly savings. This gives me more ammo power. I arrived at this US$350 figure after some calculations. Can't ask for too much, or I'll work even longer hours, which is bad. Good thing is, I can work on this part-time job during my real day job since I'm so free LOL

Paganis and Supercars : I used to jerk off to daily fantasies of driving a Pagani, and having Amber Heard-tier of girls begging me to be their man. Somehow, I've lost much of my interest in supercars (they're still epic to look at). I’m now more concerned with how the biz will turn out. Supercars and girls can come later.

Life Lesson - Forgiveness : I often have violent fantasies of taking revenge on folks who were nasty to me (e.g: mocking/belittling me). 2 days ago, on my bus trip home at night, I realised such thoughts waste tons of energy and damages my health. On that bus trip, I silently called out the names of all the people I used to hate, one by one, and swore to forgive all of them. I realised that regardless of how much I want them to suffer, it doesn't affect them one bit. In fact, many are happily married with kids and living a good life, so why should I continue to let them have control over me? LOL I wanna be free of hatred.

I sincerely wish the best for them and their family; May they have a happy and healthy life. May their dreams follow them for the rest of time. As for me, I've my own story to execute. Let's go!

If this venture eventually fails, it doesn't matter. I've learnt a shitload of stuff especially since the last 2 months. With the new knowledge, I'm much more equipped to try again, and again.

Based on current estimation, I'm still on track to launch around mid-Nov or so.
 
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How's it all going @Xeon? Really rooting for you on this one :)
 

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You are massively delaying success, why is the product a want and not need?
 

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What are your sales for 2019?

How much have you sold so far?
 

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Some updates:

1) Signed up with a much better fulfilment center. These guys are extremely professional, assuring and clear in their working style. They guide you every step of the way, tells you what's going to happen next, who to contact, what to do etc.

2) Manufacturer showed me some of the parts they did yesterday. Pretty impressed with one of the parts. The other has a very slight color variation (very light grey instead of white), but it's ok since it's a technical limitation issue and it's only a tiny part. If all is well, everything should be ready approx 20 Feb or earlier. Keeping my fingers crossed. I was reading Vick's sunglass thread (still on page 20 of that monster thread) and it seems with manufacturing, there's always delays.

3) Gonna run my Instagram giveaway next Monday. I did some reading and this infographic is useful:



I'm using easypromosapp to pull all the comments and generate a random winner, then I'll ship the prize to them direct from amazon.
My purpose of running the weekly giveaways is to:
  • get more followers
  • get more awareness of my brand
  • get social proof
  • increase engagement
4) While waiting during this period, I'm also researching the next few products in my line, and I did a poll on pickfu.com to test my potential customers' feedback. Surprisingly, their opinions are different from what I thought. The service is a bit expensive but it sheds new light on many things and is worth it. Each vote comes with detailed answers (the Whys) and you can choose the demographic to target.

4) Last week or so, I was in a bus going home on Sunday, and during the red light, I look to my right and saw this blue, exotic roofless car. I can't see the whole thing clearly, only the front part, and I thought it was a Pagani (nearly jizzed my shorts), but after a while, it seems to look like a Lotus Elise / Exige.

5) Btw, Tony Robbins is currently in Singapore giving a 4-day seminar. Official: Tony Robbins Singapore - Unleash The Power Within 2018
Look at the prices for the tickets WTF lol. With those $$$ I can buy more inventory and marketing. No offense to the Tony fans here but he comes across as another Tai Lopez type of guy to me, you know, the one who knows everything from wealth to relationships to business to religion to health. The premium tier tickets even have a fire-walking experience.
Tai Lopez, Tony Robbins, Joel Osteen.....masters of the feel-good fastlane business.
Im loving your humble hustle but Im just coming in to view..I wanted to ask about your choice to go with a fulfillment provider vs do that yourself out of the gates but that might be out of order.

Have you launched and how are things looking??
 

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5) Btw, Tony Robbins is currently in Singapore giving a 4-day seminar. Official: Tony Robbins Singapore - Unleash The Power Within 2018
Look at the prices for the tickets WTF lol. With those $$$ I can buy more inventory and marketing. No offense to the Tony fans here but he comes across as another Tai Lopez type of guy to me, you know, the one who knows everything from wealth to relationships to business to religion to health. The premium tier tickets even have a fire-walking experience.
Tai Lopez, Tony Robbins, Joel Osteen.....masters of the feel-good fastlane business.
Ironically I noticed this part of your post after sending my first message a moment ago.

Ironic because Ive been digesting some of Tonys stuff (that's available online free) the past couple days. Obviously his energy is amazing no doubt about that. Easy to take what it costs to see him and invest it on the business for guys like us.

So thinking about him as a scam/waste of money/etc.. I don't know man. Theres plenty of people (super successful) that claim he helped them tremendously. I think it's a case of what looking glass your using. I think for people that are looking to improve themselves, achieve, help people, etc. (like you seem to be) I think a guy like Tony can help even if people take away one even just one distinction they can start using to make some kind of positive change. In fact, in his stuff he often talks about distinctions in this way.

One other thing I think is helpful that is the idea to supercharge your affirmations in what he calls 'incantations'. Basically, I think most of us know that if we do affirmations with enthusiasm (emotion) its more beneficial because it has a higher probability of reaching the subconscious or at least getting embedded in there faster. Incantations is affirmations on steroids because not only are you using emotion and enthusiasm but your actually changing your physiology by doing things like, standing up, walking around as you say it, talking rapidly, beating your chest (like a caveman ha), saying this things with as he says "all the intensity" you can, etc.

Google: Tony Robbins incantations - theres a couple vids out there and they are funny watch but also pretty inspirational.

Not trying to hijack your awesome thread here but I see this stuff as helpful for those of us who want to further condition more of our internal beliefs and attitudes we carry about ourselves.

I hope you are still doing the damn thing I'm rooting for you man!

/hijack
 

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I wanted to ask about your choice to go with a fulfillment provider vs do that yourself out of the gates but that might be out of order.
Unfortunately, I need a fulfillment provider as I'm not based in the US, and the target market doesn't quite exist here, and due to market size, and a variety of other reasons.

Have you launched and how are things looking??
Looking good. A bit of delay here and there with the product and content photographer, going to chase them tomorrow. I'm sick of waiting.

Ironic because Ive been digesting some of Tonys stuff (that's available online free) the past couple days. Obviously his energy is amazing no doubt about that. Easy to take what it costs to see him and invest it on the business for guys like us.

So thinking about him as a scam/waste of money/etc.. I don't know man. Theres plenty of people (super successful) that claim he helped them tremendously. I think it's a case of what looking glass your using. I think for people that are looking to improve themselves, achieve, help people, etc. (like you seem to be) I think a guy like Tony can help even if people take away one even just one distinction they can start using to make some kind of positive change. In fact, in his stuff he often talks about distinctions in this way.

One other thing I think is helpful that is the idea to supercharge your affirmations in what he calls 'incantations'. Basically, I think most of us know that if we do affirmations with enthusiasm (emotion) its more beneficial because it has a higher probability of reaching the subconscious or at least getting embedded in there faster. Incantations is affirmations on steroids because not only are you using emotion and enthusiasm but your actually changing your physiology by doing things like, standing up, walking around as you say it, talking rapidly, beating your chest (like a caveman ha), saying this things with as he says "all the intensity" you can, etc.

Google: Tony Robbins incantations - theres a couple vids out there and they are funny watch but also pretty inspirational.
With due respect to you and all Tony's fans, I have to say, personally, NLP and affirmations, and things like that, generally don't work for me. Maybe it's cos' I'm an extremely practical person (Kevin O' Leary is one of my idols). I prefer action, hard data and results LOL
All these stuff that Tony and his contemporaries teach, feels too complex and arcane to me.

I do read a couple of self-help books once in a blue moon though. Just absorb a few important nuggets and forget about the rest of the fluff. I prefer spending time watching business/marketing related videos / articles nowadays.

With regards to super successful people (like Oprah) who are Tony's fans, all I can say that if you've Tony's ability to make people feel like they're in Heaven talking to God (which Tony can), you can charm pretty much anyone on earth, celebrity or not. I have to admit that Tony is a very charismatic guy who makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside (no homo) when I watched his videos in the past. He reminds me of Joel Osteen. Joel and Tony's fans....are all mesmerized by them, willing to part with their money for these guys....

What we should be doing is to look at Tony and Joel, and what we can learn from observing them, and applying that into our own businesses, e.g: customer service, engaging with folks on social media.....

I hope you are still doing the damn thing I'm rooting for you man! /hijack
Thanks! I'll update in details once I've launched and made my 1st sale.
I've been learning all these while during my downtime (while waiting for the photographers), reading articles and books, and will post what I've learned here in time to come. A whole ton of findings!
 

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Unfortunately, I need a fulfillment provider as I'm not based in the US, and the target market doesn't quite exist here, and due to market size, and a variety of other reasons.



Looking good. A bit of delay here and there with the product and content photographer, going to chase them tomorrow. I'm sick of waiting.



With due respect to you and all Tony's fans, I have to say, personally, NLP and affirmations, and things like that, generally don't work for me. Maybe it's cos' I'm an extremely practical person (Kevin O' Leary is one of my idols). I prefer action, hard data and results LOL
All these stuff that Tony and his contemporaries teach, feels too complex and arcane to me.

I do read a couple of self-help books once in a blue moon though. Just absorb a few important nuggets and forget about the rest of the fluff. I prefer spending time watching business/marketing related videos / articles nowadays.

With regards to super successful people (like Oprah) who are Tony's fans, all I can say that if you've Tony's ability to make people feel like they're in Heaven talking to God (which Tony can), you can charm pretty much anyone on earth, celebrity or not. I have to admit that Tony is a very charismatic guy who makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside (no homo) when I watched his videos in the past. He reminds me of Joel Osteen. Joel and Tony's fans....are all mesmerized by them, willing to part with their money for these guys....

What we should be doing is to look at Tony and Joel, and what we can learn from observing them, and applying that into our own businesses, e.g: customer service, engaging with folks on social media.....



Thanks! I'll update in details once I've launched and made my 1st sale.
I've been learning all these while during my downtime (while waiting for the photographers), reading articles and books, and will post what I've learned here in time to come. A whole ton of findings!
Extra kudos for serving a market in a country other than your own!
Stay on 'em man your going after it no one can stop you.

Regarding Tony and everything: different strokes for different folks. I will say that I am also VERY practical and I also like Mr. Wonderful ;)

I don't know if I'd drop big bucks on this stuff either but training my belief system (my mind) definitely helps me get focused. I see myself as a DIY guy that looks for ideas to implement and harness. Training my subconscious mind to be tuned in is something I see big value in.

So I guess I agree with you and the last statement you made. Thanks for responding man and I like your hustle man. Your locked into what you're doing man nice job.
 

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