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I've been on the forums a little bit, trying to ask questions on how to more deeply understand how to get what I know works in teaching lessons (I'm a voice teacher who started with no ability in singing, most teachers started with talent, so I have a huge edge on almost everyone) to a wider audience and to figure how to make it as useful for the person stumbling on my website as it is for someone taking one-on-one lessons with me.

I've done many things to try to make this work: some ebooks, courses, group lessons, etc. My last experiment was a course...no one bought it, I've got one beta tester though...ANYWAY...what I learned in that process was that I can listen deeply to someone when I'm teaching them, but it's hard to do that through a website, a survey, etc and therefore it's hard to market really, REALLY well. So even though I know what I have to teach is very valuable, I haven't figured out how to have others see it that way online.

Well finally tonight I was reading "Never Split The Difference" and he finally described why my marketing sucks compared to my teaching, and why I felt really unsatisfied with most of the info out there when it comes to marketing/product validation/proving people will buy a course before I spend so much effort making it.

from "Never Split the Difference":

"What you don't know can kill you, or your deal. But to find it out is incredibly difficult. The most basic challenge is that people don't know THE QUESTIONS TO ASK THE CUSTOMER [OMG I did survey and realized I have no idea what questions to ask, had to guess], the user...the counterpart. Unless correctly interrogated, most people aren't able to articulate the information you want. The world didn't tell Steve Jobs that it wanted an iPad: he uncovered our need, that Black Swan, without us knowing the information was there."

I feel relief now. I feel like everyone is saying how "easy" it is to ask your customer. It's not. I'm asking anyway and guessing, but it's actually really F'ing hard.

So the question I'm asking is: HOW DO I ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO GET THE MOST BENEFIT FROM THE ANSWERS I GET FROM MY AUDIENCE/CUSTOMER/ETC?


Okay...back to reading tonight, work first thing tomorrow.
 
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O'wi ciip up vji gusant e movvmi cov, vszoph vu etl raitvoupt up jux vu nusi fiiqmz apfistvepf jux vu hiv xjev O lpux xuslt op viedjoph mittupt (O'n e wuodi viedjis xju tvesvif xovj pu ecomovz op tophoph, nutv viedjist tvesvif xovj vemipv, tu O jewi e jahi ifhi up emnutv iwiszupi) vu e xofis eafoipdi epf vu gohasi jux vu neli ov et atigam gus vji qistup tvancmoph up nz xictovi et ov ot gus tuniupi veloph upi-up-upi mittupt xovj ni.

O'wi fupi nepz vjopht vu vsz vu neli vjot xusl: tuni icuult, duastit, hsuaq mittupt, ivd. Nz metv iyqisonipv xet e duasti...pu upi cuahjv ov, O'wi huv upi cive vitvis vjuahj...EPZXEZ...xjev O miespif op vjev qsuditt xet vjev O dep motvip fiiqmz vu tuniupi xjip O'n viedjoph vjin, cav ov't jesf vu fu vjev vjsuahj e xictovi, e taswiz, ivd epf vjisigusi ov't jesf vu nesliv siemmz, SIEMMZ ximm. Tu iwip vjuahj O lpux xjev O jewi vu viedj ot wisz wemaecmi, O jewip'v gohasif uav jux vu jewi uvjist tii ov vjev xez upmopi.

Ximm gopemmz vupohjv O xet siefoph "Piwis Tqmov Vji Foggisipdi" epf ji gopemmz fitdsocif xjz nz neslivoph tadlt dunqesif vu nz viedjoph, epf xjz O gimv siemmz aptevotgoif xovj nutv ug vji opgu uav vjisi xjip ov dunit vu neslivoph/qsufadv wemofevoup/qsuwoph qiuqmi xomm caz e duasti cigusi O tqipf tu nadj iggusv neloph ov.

gsun "Piwis Tqmov vji Foggisipdi":

"Xjev zua fup'v lpux dep lomm zua, us zuas fiem. Cav vu gopf ov uav ot opdsifocmz foggodamv. Vji nutv cetod djemmiphi ot vjev qiuqmi fup'v lpux VJI RAITVOUPT VU ETL VJI DATVUNIS [OMG I did survey and realized I have no idea what questions to ask, had to guess], vji atis...vji duapvisqesv. Apmitt dussidvmz opvissuhevif, nutv qiuqmi esip'v ecmi vu esvodamevi vji opgusnevoup zua xepv. Vji xusmf fofp'v vimm Tviwi Kuct vjev ov xepvif ep oQef: ji apduwisif uas piif, vjev Cmedl Txep, xovjuav at lpuxoph vji opgusnevoup xet vjisi."

O giim simoig pux. O giim moli iwiszupi ot tezoph jux "ietz" ov ot vu etl zuas datvunis. Ov't puv. O'n etloph epzxez epf haittoph, cav ov't edvaemmz siemmz G'oph jesf.

Tu vji raitvoup O'n etloph ot: JUX FU O ETL VJI SOHJV RAITVOUPT VU HIV VJI NUTV CIPIGOV GSUN VJI EPTXIST O HIV GSUN NZ EAFOIPDI/DATVUNIS/IVD?


Ulez...cedl vu siefoph vupohjv, xusl gostv vjoph vunussux.
Vjev't e hsiev raitvoup. Hmef zua jef e csielvjsuahj. Djsot Wutt ot eneboph.

Op usfis vu juqigammz jimq zua, O jewi tuni raitvoupt ug nz uxp...
  • Xju ot vji veshiv datvunis? Ot ov tuniupi xju xepvt vu viedj wuodi iwip vjuahj vjiz'si tvesvoph xovj pu ecomovz op tophoph? us ot ov e wuodi tvafipv?
  • Xjisi esi vjiti qiuqmi molimz vu ci guapf?
  • Xjev qsucmint fu vjiz vzqodemmz ipduapvis up vjios kuaspiz vu vjios huem?
  • Xjev ot vji neop uavduni us vseptgusnevoup vjev zuas duasti uggist us qsunotit vu fimowis?
Xovjuav lpuxoph epz ug vjiti eptxist, nz neop tahhitvoup xuamf ci vu gopf tuni ug zuas veshiv tvafipvt op qistup epf katv jewi ep uqip-ipfif dupwistevoup xovj vjin. Katv liiq fohhoph, etloph uqip-ipfif raitvoupt. Muul qesvodamesmz gus vjios qeop quopvt, xjisi vjiz esi tvadl, epf xjev uctvedmit vjiz qisdiowi civxiip xjisi vjiz esi pux epf xjisi vjiz xepv vu ci.

Vji nusi ug vjiti opviswoixt zua dep dupfadv, vji nusi zua'mm ci ecmi vu nevdj zuas qsufadv uggisopht vu vji iyedv piift epf qeopt vjev zuas tvafipvt LPUX epf GIIM vjev vjiz jewi.

Vji raitvoupt vjev xomm cipigov zua vji nutv esi vji upit xjisi zua apduwis INUVOUP, itqidoemmz giest epf qeopt.
 
Xjev ot vji neop uavduni us vseptgusnevoup vjev zuas duasti uggist us qsunotit vu fimowis?

O'mm eff xjev fuit zuas tiswodi dutv, epf jux muph fuit tuniupi piif vu ci xusloph xovj zua vu tii sitamvt (cz sitamvt, O niep vji uavduni @Cilov etlif ecuav)?
 
O'n e wuodi viedjis xju tvesvif xovj pu ecomovz op tophoph, nutv viedjist tvesvif xovj vemipv, tu O jewi e jahi ifhi up emnutv iwiszupi

O'n opvsohaif, jux fuit jewoph pu iyqisoipdi howi zua ep ifhi up qiuqmi vjev fu?
 
O'wi ciip up vji gusant e movvmi cov, vszoph vu etl raitvoupt up jux vu nusi fiiqmz apfistvepf jux vu hiv xjev O lpux xuslt op viedjoph mittupt (O'n e wuodi viedjis xju tvesvif xovj pu ecomovz op tophoph, nutv viedjist tvesvif xovj vemipv, tu O jewi e jahi ifhi up emnutv iwiszupi) vu e xofis eafoipdi epf vu gohasi jux vu neli ov et atigam gus vji qistup tvancmoph up nz xictovi et ov ot gus tuniupi veloph upi-up-upi mittupt xovj ni.

O'wi fupi nepz vjopht vu vsz vu neli vjot xusl: tuni icuult, duastit, hsuaq mittupt, ivd. Nz metv iyqisonipv xet e duasti...pu upi cuahjv ov, O'wi huv upi cive vitvis vjuahj...EPZXEZ...xjev O miespif op vjev qsuditt xet vjev O dep motvip fiiqmz vu tuniupi xjip O'n viedjoph vjin, cav ov't jesf vu fu vjev vjsuahj e xictovi, e taswiz, ivd epf vjisigusi ov't jesf vu nesliv siemmz, SIEMMZ ximm. Tu iwip vjuahj O lpux xjev O jewi vu viedj ot wisz wemaecmi, O jewip'v gohasif uav jux vu jewi uvjist tii ov vjev xez upmopi.

Ximm gopemmz vupohjv O xet siefoph "Piwis Tqmov Vji Foggisipdi" epf ji gopemmz fitdsocif xjz nz neslivoph tadlt dunqesif vu nz viedjoph, epf xjz O gimv siemmz aptevotgoif xovj nutv ug vji opgu uav vjisi xjip ov dunit vu neslivoph/qsufadv wemofevoup/qsuwoph qiuqmi xomm caz e duasti cigusi O tqipf tu nadj iggusv neloph ov.

gsun "Piwis Tqmov vji Foggisipdi":

"Xjev zua fup'v lpux dep lomm zua, us zuas fiem. Cav vu gopf ov uav ot opdsifocmz foggodamv. Vji nutv cetod djemmiphi ot vjev qiuqmi fup'v lpux VJI RAITVOUPT VU ETL VJI DATVUNIS [OMG I did survey and realized I have no idea what questions to ask, had to guess], vji atis...vji duapvisqesv. Apmitt dussidvmz opvissuhevif, nutv qiuqmi esip'v ecmi vu esvodamevi vji opgusnevoup zua xepv. Vji xusmf fofp'v vimm Tviwi Kuct vjev ov xepvif ep oQef: ji apduwisif uas piif, vjev Cmedl Txep, xovjuav at lpuxoph vji opgusnevoup xet vjisi."

O giim simoig pux. O giim moli iwiszupi ot tezoph jux "ietz" ov ot vu etl zuas datvunis. Ov't puv. O'n etloph epzxez epf haittoph, cav ov't edvaemmz siemmz G'oph jesf.

Tu vji raitvoup O'n etloph ot: JUX FU O ETL VJI SOHJV RAITVOUPT VU HIV VJI NUTV CIPIGOV GSUN VJI EPTXIST O HIV GSUN NZ EAFOIPDI/DATVUNIS/IVD?


Ulez...cedl vu siefoph vupohjv, xusl gostv vjoph vunussux.
O sidunnif vji cuul "Vji Nun Vitv", ov simevit tu jesf jux tadl O etl raitvoupt O gimv incesettif siefoph ov.
 
Siemoti vjev vjisi esi pu fanc raitvoupt epf zua tjuamf ci etloph iwiszupi vjev tjuxt iwip e nufodan ug opvisitv et nepz uqip ipfif raitvoupt et quttocmi. Encohauat raitvoupt vjev dep'v ci eptxisif xovj e zit us pu dep ci wisz ipmohjvipoph et vjiz dep veli zua ugg ev vephipvt zua xuamf piwis jewi duptofisif up zuas uxp.

Nz dassipv qsukidv ot tmuxmz dunoph uav ug nuvjcemmt cav O jewi ciip etloph qiuqmi raitvoupt gus nupvj epf nupvjt xjomi ov jet ciip op jocispevoup.

Vji upi vjoph O vsz vu sinincis ot vjev O en vuu dmuti vu vji tackidv nevvis vu ci uckidvowi. O jewi nepz cmopf tquvt cideati O tii vjopht gsun e foggisipv qistqidvowi vjep tuniupi xju piift nz tiswodit cav iovjis fuitp'v lpux ov ziv us jet fotduapvif ov op vji qetv.
 
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  • Active Daily: Life-changing content posted dozens of times every day. No dead threads.
  • MJ's Inner Circle: Direct access to the author of The Millionaire Fastlane.
  • Vetted Network: Connect with founders scaling to 7 and 8 figures.
  • Proven Roadmaps: Strategy over motivation. Execution over "hustle porn."
"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
"Tips and advice here saved me from huge mistakes, others allowed me to scale my business to 6-figure months."
— User MitchC
"INSANE QUALITY OF PEOPLE"
"The number of high quality people I've met from this forum has been insane. All of it predicated on building real value."
— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
Are you surrounding yourself with success?

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