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Nootropics & I (Progress Thread)

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Hey Everyone!

After reading the posts in the Nootropics thread, and then doing some in-depth research of my own, I have decided to give nootropics a try!

Sources:
I used a lot of sources, but the ones I found most informative and helpful were Braintropic and Longecity.

About Me
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Approx. 150lbs

Why?
I am primarily taking nootropics to help with my academics. I am a Junior in a private high school where an A+ is extremely difficult to achieve. The type of school where I will slave over a paper for a total of 10 hours over 3 days, with multiple revisions, peer editing, and LOTS of planning and organization only to earn a 80% (B-) on it. Also the type of school where a Chemistry Honors class uses averages instead of total points, so an 85% on a test early in the year constantly brings my 95%+ down, one more slip up and my grade will not be salvageable. I want better focus when I am studying, I have at least 4 hours of homework a night, if not more. Focus to get everything done in one sitting will help me get to sleep earlier and have some personal time. Even more important is the refinement of my studies, making sure that all my time spent doing work is the best work I am capable of.

Also, as you may have read in one of my other replies or threads, I suffered a severe concussion in September. Because I feel inclined to share the story, here goes nothing. If you don't care about the story you can skip the next paragraph.

One Friday I woke up with a bad stomach ache, about once a month I get severe stomach pains that my Doctor calls "Abdominal Migraines". I have a sharp pain in my stomach that lasts about 24 hours. No vomiting, and no medicine that I have found (Thus far) can ease the pain. Since this has become a somewhat regular occurrence, I have learned to cope with it by sleeping all day in hopes of waking up pain free. I figured that the stomach ache I had on that Friday was just an abdominal migraine, and the nurses at my school are aware of it so they gave me the day off. I struggled through the night barely getting any sleep and gaining a serious case of the chills, the next morning I went to the nurse and registered a fever of 104 degrees. She sent me back to my room to sleep, I returned a few hours later for my "check-up". When I was in her office she went to get the thermometer, because I was so cold I was wearing footed pajamas (I'm a child at heart). All of the sudden I got extremely hot so I stood up to leave the room and get a drink, I made it to the doorway of the bathroom and fainted. The nurse woke me up on the floor about 10 minutes later and asked what I was doing...being dazed I said it was colder on the floor, so she made me go sleep in the bed in the nurse office. I woke up about 4 hours later and my ear was bleeding and I had a cut on my head, I thought nothing of it and struggled to walk back to my dorm. All I remember is having to sit down to rest every few steps because I got so light headed. The distance from the nurses to my dorm - which would normally take me 2-3 minutes to walk to - took me at least 20 minutes. I figured it was all because I was sick. I slept the next day and a half and began to feel better and my fever was gone. I then revisited the cut on my head and realized that it was a pretty big cut and the side of my head hurt. I then began to notice some concussion-like symptoms (I have been concussed before). What I concluded was that when I fainted I must have hit my head on the wall. I told the nurse and she just wanted me to rest, the next day I went to my first class and stared out the window the entire class, didn't retain any information and didn't take a single note. I met with the trainer later that day and took a concussion symptoms test - to give you a feel for the scale, a score of 6 is a concussion, and at 10 they don't allow you to attend school - my school the first day was a 74 - the highest my school had ever seen. I also did a balance test where I stood on one foot and closed my eyes (Both left and right) and one where I stood straight up and closed my eyes, I couldn't stand without tipping over every few seconds. I then missed 2ish months straight of school and had a week or two of half days.

Although I feel most of the symptoms of my concussion are gone, I still have a few. Particularly memory and speaking problems. I have a hard time remembering things in my childhood, I vaguely remember things, but not in the detail I used to. Speaking is more that I feel I am frequently reaching for words on the tip of my tongue, I also sometimes experience shortness of breath if I am speaking in front of a class, which I never had before. Additionally I am still making up all of the work that I missed. Because my normal nights homework is crazy already, doing make up work on top of it is almost impossible. I want nootropics to give me the focus and motivation to finish my normal homework in record time and then move onto my make up work so I can get the weight off of my shoulders. I have also read that certain nootropics help with memory, better speech, and general well being of the brain. I think they could help heal my brain and resolve the issues I am still having.

Getting my homework out of the way will free up my time to follow business ventures that I am interested in. I sound like a broken record, but my school doesn't really give me a lot of free time, but with nootropics I could open up a few hours of free time to pound out some high quality business work.

What am I taking?
After doing a lot of extensive research, I have decided on these premade stacks to start: (I will give a brief description of each, more detailed information can be obtained by searching the sites I listed above)

- Onnit Lab's Alpha Brain - An all around motivation/study/focus/memory supplement

- Onnit Lab's New Mood - A supplement specializing in better moods and sleeping

- Onnit Lab's Shroom Tech Sport - A workout supplement that is good for energy, strength, and stamina

- Maven Lab's Brainstack - Very similar to Alpha Brain but has been said to be a more intense version

I just ordered 2 small samples of Shroom Tech Sport and Alpha Brain and I hope to order the others soon (No trial versions available so looking for best price). I am not taking them all at once! I haven't yet decided how frequently I want to take them, and in which quantities. I plan to do some trial and error on times, doses, and days. I will probably use Alpha Brain or Brainstack right when I get up so it lasts the whole school day, and then at around 4:15 I will take the workout one and if I plan on being up late doing work, take another Alpha or Brainstack and on nights I want to catch up on rest, take New Mood instead of the later dose of Alpha/Brain.

I am starting with premade stacks because I found very in depth reviews on the supplements above, they seem to be fairly safe and work well. It is nice to be able to buy an all-in-one and I don't want to mess with bulk powders because they are larger, more expensive and require a scale and cap filling system (Too expensive for my first round trying them, and if they don't work I will have tons of leftover powder).

Eventually I plan to expand to more advanced stacks and buying bulk powders and making my own capsules, but I would like to try them first. The best part about creating your own stack is you are able to choose exactly what you want to take to help you, in whatever dose you need. The powders are also a LOT cheaper than the capsules. Here is an example of a stack I read about that is supposed to be GREAT for Entrepreneurs (Being an entrepreneurs forum )

Entrepreneurs Stack: (All credit goes to Braintropic for the stack)

What to expect?
Highly Increased Motivation and Euphoric Well Being
Adderall-like Focus, with no crash or related health risks.
Enhanced Social Skills, speaking skills like Morgan Freeman
Reduced Social Anxiety and Focus
Supercharged Memory
Energy and lowered fatigue

Stack:
2x a day;
Morning - 8:00 AM and Afternoon 1:00 PM
500mg Sulbutiamine
150mg Caffiene
500mg Choline CDP
300mg NALT
1500mg Aniracetam (Morning only!)

20mg Noopept (Afternoon only!)

That is just an example of what a custom stack can be!
What do I expect?
I know this won't give me an experience like Bradley Cooper in Limitless, but I feel they could be beneficial. These are a few things I hope to experience and achieve with nootropics:

- Better memory - not photographic, but being able to recall memories and notes better

- Better focus - being able to sit down and write a paper in one sitting without Facebook or texting or just wandering thoughts

- More motivation - after a long day of school, and then a straining workout, I often lack motivation to begin my homework, and after that I have almost none to do business stuff. I hope nootropics will give me the motivation to do everything I could possibly want to with no delays

- Heal my brain - I want my brain to be fully healed from the concussion, nootropics can also prevent damage and strain to the brain at later times

- Improved Speech - One article said "Morgan Freeman-like speech"...damn that would be helpful!

- Better mood - I am generally a happy kid, but 7 hours of school, 4 hours of homework, and a 2 hour workout can take a toll on my mood, being able to maintain a smile on my face and a good outlook on life would be great.

- Better physical health

What are my worries?

I am mainly worried that they won't work and I will have wasted my money. I also worry that other students or my parents will find out and be disappointed that I am using them. (Although as far as I know they are legal and natural supplements). Or that my school will find out and strip me of my grades (May just be a fear, not sure if they can even do that). I am not too worried about side effects because these supplements have been around for quite a few years so research and reviews of people using them has probably gotten any major issue out. But I am aware that nothing is perfect and there is a chance that I will experience a side effect.


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I plan to make this a progress thread where I will report back on my findings with the nootropics including: doses, effects, side effects, pros and cons, new supplements, and anything else I feel important!

My hopes are that people who know about nootropics can reply and give me information because I am just starting, and as I become more familiar with them, people can learn about them if they are interested in trying them!

I'm a little nervous so support and motivation would be wonderful!

Cheers everyone!
- Sam (InLikeFlint) -
 
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I clicked the link to the site but didn't find a link to buy, just information. Where do you buy it?

(Spoiler Alert: That website is fake)

From what I just read showing your apparent trust for any website selling suppliments/drugs that looks official, I have to ask, where are you buying your Nootropics from, online? You should only get pills from reputable sources, those Canadian "pharmacies" are not legit. PLEASE I beg of you to use good judgement; at the least, just make sure your not putting laundry detergent into your body
 

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(Spoiler Alert: That website is fake)

From what I just read showing your apparent trust for any website selling suppliments/drugs that looks official, I have to ask, where are you buying your Nootropics from, online? You should only get pills from reputable sources, those Canadian "pharmacies" are not legit. PLEASE I beg of you to use good judgement; at the least, just make sure your not putting laundry detergent into your body

I bought the samples from the official websites of the respective websites, and I am getting the powders off of Amazon. All of the things I have bought thus far have been tested and reviewed. They have testimonials, licenses, and lots of reviews. Thank you for your concern. I wasn't trusting the site above, I merely wanted to see the price they were asking, I have seen a lot of sketchy websites like the one linked, and if they can't make a halfway decent website I only look at it with a humorous standpoint, I wasn't seriously going to buy it.
 

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All of the things I have bought thus far have been tested and reviewed. They have testimonials, licenses, and lots of reviews.

You can easily purchase 'reviews' online
 

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Jeez - that's rough! Sorry to hear about the concussion.

I can't speak with any authority to the effectiveness of these supplements, so I'll keep any reservations to myself. I will say that the human brain has an amazing capacity to adapt. You've got youth and drive on your side, not to mention you live in a country with access to all sorts of great health care. I predict your brain will build new neural pathways to reduce your speach limitations and open a door to those memories again.

Brain injuries are scary things - here's to ya!
 

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- Update -

Forgot to add what I am currently taking in the original post:
- Centrum Men's Multivitamin - Once daily
- Nutrilite Furits & Vegtables Supplement - Once daily
- GNC Vitamin C - 1000mg - Once daily

My "trial" orders should be here tomorrow or Thursday. I plan to try them the day I get them (Because i won't get them until around 4 I will take the Sports at 4 before i workout and then take the Alpha Brain at 7:30 when I start studying). Assuming I notice an effect, I will immediately place an order for more Alpha Brain, and Shroom Tech Sport, as well as New Mood, and a Racetam (Either Pramiracetam or Oxiracetam) and a source of Choline. I am ordering right away because I have exams in 2 weeks and I'd like them to be here to aid my studies, that will be a real test of how good they are.
 

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Jeez - that's rough! Sorry to hear about the concussion.

I can't speak with any authority to the effectiveness of these supplements, so I'll keep any reservations to myself. I will say that the human brain has an amazing capacity to adapt. You've got youth and drive on your side, not to mention you live in a country with access to all sorts of great health care. I predict your brain will build new neural pathways to reduce your speach limitations and open a door to those memories again.

Brain injuries are scary things - here's to ya!

I couldn't agree more. They say humans can't even access half of the potential of their brain (It's a bigger percentage, just from the top of my head) and I don't think supplements will allow me to access 100%, but I think its a start. Definitely potential here to do great things. I am posting an update after this reply with my results from my first 2 tests!
 
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Sounds interesting! I would start taking some if there are proven, lab tested, advantages to it.

Honestly, they should come out with an all natural nootropic supplement that is branded as NZT. People would be all over that.
 

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Received my Alpha Brain and Shroom Tech Sport samples on Friday but held off taking them until Saturday afternoon when I was going to do some studying.

- Update -

Day 1 - 1/12/13 took 1 Alpha Brain capsule at 3:50pm

I seemed to notice effects within the first 15 minutes, but I have reason to believe that was a placebo rather than actual results. I then got down to studying, I had to do some research for a project on a court case, I got going through the boring subject and text. Next thing I know I look up and its 5:30 and I have a full sheet of research done, I have read long articles on at least 3 websites on the case, and was listening to the recording of the case. Something I would normally hate I was doing with indifference. I can't say that I felt focused (How do you even describe that) but I did get some boring research done. I lost track of time, and the work I did was really well thought out. My work for the day was done at around 6 so I started doing some research on a few business projects, I zoomed through those and I felt like I was reading faster than usual and I seemed to be able to recall what I read better at the end of each article, but there is no way to know for sure. Then around 7:15 I had done all my work and business things I had lined up, I was surprised because normally I would allot 5-6 hours for this work that I got done in about 3 hours - chance? perhaps. I definitely noticed effects, but part of it could be placebo, or whatever. I think a stronger dose would have great effects for me.

Overall effects that I noticed: (Good and bad)
- Was so into my work that I lost track of time
- Faster typing
- Faster and more refined reading
- Overall calmness of my mood, normally during my intense study sessions I get frustrated at some point, none of that
- No distractions, usually I get up and do some pullups or open facebook or TFF or get something to eat or drink while I am studying, or text someone, but I was literally glued to my work. There was a point where I even got a text from a girl I am into and I didn't even pay any attention to it and didn't respond for like 4 hours ( Hard to get :p )
- My work was more thought out, when i was typing notes on an article I never used slang, every word was very descriptive and fit the situation perfectly. I was never reaching for words
- I was more organized
- My memory seemed stronger - both with what I had read/studied and with what work I needed to do, mid work I remembered that I needed to send some study guides I made to 3 underclassmen, and I got that out of the way. The thing is I told them I was going to do that prior to my concussion (September) and never remembered it until now.
- Only physical change I noticed was my pupils became dilated which is something that has happened to me multiple times an hour. Could be the noot or could be the concussion.
- I felt energized but not jittery, like I could run a marathon if I wanted but I didn't need to because I had work to do
- I honestly just felt amazing, I was never sad or angry or frustrated, I seemed happy and content with everything, I felt relaxed but I still felt like doing something

Day 2 - 1/13/13 took 2 pills at 1:50 pm

I decided to up the dose to 2 pills (Max is 4 per day) to see what changed. I felt the effects at about 20 minutes after taking it, I think the reason it took longer is I took it with my daily vitamins today so there was less placebo because taking vitamins is normal for me so it was less of an out-of-the-norm action in my day. I took it then made my bed and got my stuff ready to go study in a common room. When i got to the common room I stood there for like 5 minutes just looking around the room. I go there at least once a week so its nothing new but for some reason I was intrigued. I walked around looking out each window, going to the back side room, and then began organizing my working "station" I was going to sit on the couch with a table in front of me but then changed my mind because I needed a hard surface to write on so I sat at a big desk. For some reason I decided to wipe off the desk before because it was a little dusty, after like 15 minutes got my area perfectly set up (unusual for me to spend so much time on something like this). I got down to studying, looked up my assignments and saw that I had math homework, it was at least double the amount of problems that I normally have and wasn't due until tuesday. But without thinking I got down to working, it was hard shit, I probably forgot everything we had learned in class friday which didn't help. I never once got frustrated, I thought logically and figured everything out on my own, and didn't procrastinate at all. No distractions either. I then got to the hardest problems in the assignment, we are currently expanding and condensing logs and there were very very long ones I had to do. No problems whatsoever, I worked through them all on my own. It was amazing, it didn't make me smarter, but by taking away my procrastinations, distractions, and frustration I was able to logically solve every problem on my own with the knowledge I have already had.

Overall effects that I noticed: (Good or bad)
- Was so into my work that I lost track of time
- Faster typing
- Faster and more refined reading
- Overall calmness of my mood, normally during my intense study sessions I get frustrated at some point, none of that
- No distractions, usually I get up and do some pullups or open facebook or TFF or get something to eat or drink while I am studying, or text someone, but I was literally glued to my work. There was a point where I even got a text from a girl I am into and I didn't even pay any attention to it and didn't respond for like 4 hours ( Hard to get :p )
- My work was more thought out, when i was typing notes on an article I never used slang, every word was very descriptive and fit the situation perfectly. I was never reaching for words
- I was more organized
- My memory seemed stronger - both with what I had read/studied and with what work I needed to do, mid work I remembered that I needed to send some study guides I made to 3 underclassmen, and I got that out of the way. The thing is I told them I was going to do that prior to my concussion (September) and never remembered it until now.
- Only physical change I noticed was my pupils became dilated which is something that has happened to me multiple times an hour. Could be the noot or could be the concussion.
- I felt energized but not jittery, like I could run a marathon if I wanted but I didn't need to because I had work to do
- I honestly just felt amazing, I was never sad or angry or frustrated, I seemed happy and content with everything, I felt relaxed but I still felt like doing something
- My vision was different, I experienced crazy tunnel vision right after my concussion, and it felt like that, but not in a bad way. I was focused on what I was doing but I was inadvertently aware of all my surroundings, at one point I went to sign in and had to wait for the teacher to get there and I sat down and a bunch of freshman were eating pizza, being there RA I struck up a conversation with them. But I was reading a book on my phone at the same time, and still maintaining a perfect conversation with them, I wasn't looking around the room, but I could probably recall ever student that walked in and out of the room while I was there. The tunnel vision was more of focus vision where my primary goal was what I was doing, but if someone were to sprint past me I would have the reactions to be able to move out of the way, it was like nothing I had experienced before.
- One of my close friends was studying with me today (Different subjects but same room) and I literally didn't say a single word to him because I was so into my work.
- My focus and motivation were much stronger today with 2 pills instead of one.

I don't normally workout on weekends, so I won't be trying the Shroom Tech Sport until tomorrow afternoon, but I will report back with results.

Because of my wonderful first experience(s) with nootropics I have just placed an order for more. But this time I went with a little more advanced stuff rather than premade stacks because of price and Amazon Prime free 2 day shipping. I just ordered:
- N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine 300mg (Capsules)
- Caffeine 200mg (Capsules)
- CDP Choline 250mg (Capsules)
- Sulbutiamine 200mg (Capsules)
- Aniracetam 750mg (Capsules)
- Noopept (Tablets)

They should get here Tuesday and Wednesday
 

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I'm also interested in brain doping. :propeller:

Do you have a recommendation for a great resource/site where to start my research? I first came across nootropics via bulletproofexec and will probably start from there. Just taking some "regular" supps daily right now.. d3, k2, magnesium, potassium, krill oil, betaine hcl, liposomal glutathione, bcaa, glutamin..

I tried some ritalin (Methylphenidat, a prescription drug) about 2 years ago for studying but it made me asleep instead of awake and focussed. Might have been the wrong dose. Maybe I'll buy some leftovers after the exams at my ex-uni are over haha.

Edit: argh, I knew I read your research source somewhere in your post, but I looked too far down all the time. got it now ;) Will probably order the onnit trinity pack (alpha brain, shroomtech sport, new mood) tomorrow.
 
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Honestly, they should come out with an all natural nootropic supplement that is branded as NZT. People would be all over that.

I have been doing some thinking about turning Nootropics into something fastlane. I was thinking along the lines of:

Get a group of scientists and doctors together to do months of testing on each product using human and animal testing to see the side effects and benefits of each drug.

Offer a guarantee on it that it is safe (With the testing and research backing it) then have a lab create, package, and sell the nootropics.

The biggest pain in the a$$ has been finding a site with exactly what I want, at a good price, I am always bouncing around sites and it's annoying.

Offer a variety of products: (For example)

Oxiracetam -

Offer it in powder in different amounts (2g, 5g, 20g, 50g, etc etc)

Offer it in capsule form in different amounts (100mg, 200mg, 250mg, etc)

Offer it available in a premade stack where you pick the amounts and different noots in the capsule and they create it for you (Saves using powders or having to take 90 different pills)

Offer a custom bulk powder stack where you say I want X amount of this, Y amount of this, and Z amount of this and they create the powder mixture for you.

The site would also offer the best scale and caps available, and capping machines.

The site could be connected with a forum to discuss stacks, and pros and cons of each noot.

And there would be an option to customize your own and saved it and then it could be shipped monthly or every two months or at some interval
 

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I'm also interested in brain doping. :propeller:

Do you have a recommendation for a great resource/site where to start my research? I first came across nootropics via bulletproofexec and will probably start from there. Just taking some "regular" supps daily right now.. d3, k2, magnesium, potassium, krill oil, betaine hcl, liposomal glutathione, bcaa, glutamin..

I tried some ritalin (Methylphenidat, a prescription drug) about 2 years ago for studying but it made me asleep instead of awake and focussed. Might have been the wrong dose. Maybe I'll buy some leftovers after the exams at my ex-uni are over haha.

Articles - Articles - LONGECITY and Braintropic - Learn how to increase memory in the brain! are both very very good sites for info. The first is a forum with millions of threads to search through, and the other is like a blog with articles on different types of noots and beginner stuff and advanced stacks, its really good.

Let me know if you have any questions, granted I probably couldn't answer them!
 

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Just ordered a pack of alpha brain, shroomtech sport, and new mood from the UK distributor. hope to have them by the end of the week and will share them with my girlfriend who currently has her exam preparation. Will report my results as soon as I can.
 
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Just ordered a pack of alpha brain, shroomtech sport, and new mood from the UK distributor. hope to have them by the end of the week and will share them with my girlfriend who currently has her exam preperation. Will report my results as soon as I can.

Awesome, let me know how it goes!
 

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Just ordered a pack of alpha brain, shroomtech sport, and new mood from the UK distributor. hope to have them by the end of the week and will share them with my girlfriend who currently has her exam preparation. Will report my results as soon as I can.

I'm especially interested in New Mood because they didn't have a trial pack, so let me know how it affects you!
 

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The first link didn't work for me.

No offense to you, but that article at least for the Alpha Brain section, was terrible. No argument. They basically said it was bad without saying why it was bad, they even said it had nice brain supplements in it, but didn't state why it was bad. If you are convinced by an article like that, I am sure you would be more than fooled by the cheesiest of nootropic sites (i.e NZT 48). On the other hand though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect that. I believe nootropics can help me, but if you don't, more power to ya!
 

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Flint, have you thought about trying to get modafinil?
 
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Flint, have you thought about trying to get modafinil?

Oh definitely. It was one of the first noots I looked into. It requires a prescription though, as far as I know, and with that it would be harder to talk out of. Currently I can say (To my parents/school) that they are natural supplements that allow me to harness the potential my brain has. But with a prescription I am pretty sure that is illegal. I'm sure I will give it a try at some point down the road, but I also noticed a lot of side affects of extreme lack of appetite. To the point where eating a handful of peanuts is the last thing thing in the world you want to do. Not a big deal for some, but I live in a dorm and eating is something I need to plan and execute on my own, if I'm not hungry I won't eat, and that could lead to not eating for days
 

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I read the article, it's a lot of opinion with one or two facts thrown in. It's not that persuasive imo. It's worth the read but take it with a huge grain of salt.

I was curious about the site taking such a hard stance against these different supplements with the whole "FDA issue" for one of them only came up after the fact of writing the article.

It's simple, they aren't products within his affiliate network. He's promoting two brands of similar products, both with affiliate programs, and has an amazon store built into his site (amazon affiliate of course). So he writes a few articles with popular key words on well marketed items, it gets searched, he gets found, people buy through his affiliate program and hopefully amazon store.

Nothing against the guy for making money but don't take real advice from a biased competitor.
 

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I read the article, it's a lot of opinion with one or two facts thrown in. It's not the persuasive imo. It's worth the read but take it with a huge grain of salt.

I was curious about the site taking such a hard stance against these different supplements with the whole "FDA issue" for one of them only came up after the fact of writing the article.

It's simple, they aren't products within his affiliate network. He's promoting two brands of similar products, both with affiliate programs, and has an amazon store built into his site (amazon affiliate of course). So he writes a few articles with popular key words on well marketing items, it gets searched, he gets found, people buy his supplements and hopefully from his Amazon store.

Nothing against the guy for making money but don't take real advice from a biased competitor.

Well put Liquid, I couldn't agree more.
 
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My friend tried modafinil and he said it worked for him. He worked from morning to evening nonstop without feeling tired and was very focused and felt good. I have found this site that sells it without prescription but still havent had the time to buy it. I'm currently testing something else for relaxation and stress called Phenubut.
 

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My job will involve lots of time on the phone and in meetings, especially in the first months. So I guess its very different from the other kinds of "work" that you describe here, which is done alone and needs concentration (like school/college work, coding, research, etc).

So my question is: has anybody experience with using smart drugs and/or nootropics for this kind of "extroverted" work?
 

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