MJ DeMarco a Fraud? He didn't respond to my 6pm email within 2 hrs!!

[Kak]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 61837" data-quote="chad12" data-source="post: 756659" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756659" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756659">chad12 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> I know I am probably going to get thrown under the rug here but I am losing hope. I have VERY little money. I accidentally let my insider membership re-start and it charged my paypal account. I opened a Dispute becuase I had no recollection of &quot;viperion&quot;, I admit this is my mistake. The dispute was immediately closed and MJ Took my money.<br /> <br /> Now I do not have insider. I have messaged admins, I have made threads, nobody is responding to me.<br /> <br /> I want my money back. This is by literal definition fraudulent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> This is a truly classless way to raise a concern... Even one as incoherent as this... <br /> <br /> Your words are verging on defamatory. <br /> <br /> Those of us who have been around here a while know MJ as possibly the most reasonable person on this forum. He would have taken care of you with or without your little dog and pony show. I’d bet your insider fee on it.</div>

 

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[rogue synthetic]

<div class="bbWrapper">I remember the great old days of 2005 when a poster like this could be written off as a low-effort troll.<br /> <br /> We&#039;ve reached such levels of peak internet in 2019 that being an actual &quot;average person&quot; is indistinguishable from the uninspired trouble-maker from just a few years ago. <br /> <br /> I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s grounds for celebration or more booze. (Hint: it&#039;s more booze.)</div>

 

[Roli]

<div class="bbWrapper">I literally thought this was a joke, his strap line is; I want my lollipop, now!</div>

 

[minivanman]

<div class="bbWrapper">My sales lady had a customer like this in December. I took her out another washing machine (NO questions asked just like I always do if someone THINKS there is a problem). She told me, while I was there, the new one was not suppose to work this way.... is she a washing machine mechanic? It is the push button kind where it waits a few minutes to run the water. So I leave..... 2 days later she gives my sales lady hell. Now I&#039;ve stated before (just today) how I HATE phone calls. But I called this b!tch up and showed her how unprofessional this retired guy can be. And she really flipped out when I cancelled her 30 day warranty. She said, &quot;I&#039;ll be contacting you after the first of the year&quot;. I said, &quot;No you won&#039;t because in about 15 seconds you will be blocked from my phone&quot;. lol It&#039;s good to see MJ handles idiots better than I do. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-halo.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":innocent: :halo:" title="Innocent :innocent: :halo:" data-shortname=":innocent: :halo:" /> We are retired.... we don&#039;t have to take this sh!t!<br /> <br /> By the way, -$59 <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></div>

 

[LeoistheSun]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 61837" data-quote="chad12" data-source="post: 756659" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756659" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756659">chad12 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> I know I am probably going to get thrown under the rug here but I am losing hope. I have VERY little money. I accidentally let my insider membership re-start and it charged my paypal account. I opened a Dispute becuase I had no recollection of &quot;viperion&quot;, I admit this is my mistake. The dispute was immediately closed and MJ Took my money.<br /> <br /> Now I do not have insider. I have messaged admins, I have made threads, nobody is responding to me.<br /> <br /> I want my money back. This is by literal definition fraudulent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Is this you?<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47154287" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">&#039;I&#039;m suing my parents for giving birth to me&#039;</a></div>

 

[AllenCrawley]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31972" data-quote="Roli" data-source="post: 756715" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756715" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756715">Roli said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I literally thought this was a joke, his strap line is; I want my lollipop, now! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>LOL. I think his tag line was changed by admin.</div>

 

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[c4n]

<div class="bbWrapper">A classic case of PEBKAC.<br /> <br /> <script class="js-extraPhrases" type="application/json"> { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" } </script> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="pebkac-problem-exists-between-keyboard-and-chair.gif" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kodyaz.com%2Fimages%2Fpics%2Fpebkac-problem-exists-between-keyboard-and-chair.gif&amp;hash=4cc367b49429cbeb55928ca523d8be0f" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kodyaz.com%2Fimages%2Fpics%2Fpebkac-problem-exists-between-keyboard-and-chair.gif&amp;hash=4cc367b49429cbeb55928ca523d8be0f" data-url="http://www.kodyaz.com/images/pics/pebkac-problem-exists-between-keyboard-and-chair.gif" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="pebkac-problem-exists-between-keyboard-and-chair.gif" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div> <br /> <br /> <br /> We all get them. Refund, ignore, forget. Not worth your time or your health.</div>

 

[LiveEntrepreneur]

<div class="bbWrapper">This really feels like a troll lol.</div>

 

[Real Deal Denver]

<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;ve dealt with much worse jerk offs than this loser. If this was the worst I ever came across, I&#039;d be happy.<br /> <br /> I honestly believe there are truly evil people out there. This guy wasn&#039;t one of them - he&#039;s just a case of arrested development that misses his mommy.<br /> <br /> But I&#039;ve had people turn me into a licensing board for no reason other than they didn&#039;t think I kissed their a$$ the right way. The licensing board makes people&#039;s lives hell and hands out fines. Think Nazi Germany. Can&#039;t reason with them - just have to endure them and move on.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ll take the snot nosed brats any day. Just had one today that couldn&#039;t give me TWO minutes to fix a problem. He actually refused to give me two minutes. I said - &quot;OK, Thank you, and good luck.&quot; End of the drama right there. Life is too short to worry about the little stuff.<br /> <br /> Of course there was no doubt MJ would take care of this guy. No need for explanation. He painted his own portrait pretty well. Here&#039;s your money - have a good day - sorry I didn&#039;t get to it right away for you - click - {ring tone}<br /> <br /> There are the ones, however... that need their skull cracked. Just a little.</div>

 

[Jonathan Hoch]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 756696" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756696" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756696">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No tag, nothing. No email via the &quot;contact us&quot; button. Guess he assumes I read every 200 posts on this forum per day. And then he proceeded to call me a fraud on every thread. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I will be tagging <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> on every post from here on out, to hopefully be included in the lucky few that he does read. <br /> <br /> On other forums that I frequent, the paid insider access is time locked AND minimum contribution locked, to help prevent this type of idiocy from occurring. I assume this sort of thing doesn&#039;t happen too often, but it may be something to consider if it starts happening more often.</div>

 

[ChrisV]

<div class="bbWrapper">lmfao wtf</div>

 

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[biophase]

<div class="bbWrapper">Well, since I still can respond to this... I would have not given this guy his money back. I&#039;m all for great customer service and refunding whoever wants one. But as soon as I feel that the person is a dick, I&#039;m keeping his money if I have fulfilled his order (or he forgets to cancel). F*ck him.<br /> <br /> BTW, I had this person ask to review stuff on her youtube channel, I offered to send her free a $40 product, she asked for a $100 product. I said no because it&#039;s $100, she said ok, she&#039;ll take the $40 one. I said, sorry her youtube account is not qualified to do a free review for us anymore.</div>

 

[Deleted50669]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23" data-quote="biophase" data-source="post: 756808" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756808" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756808">biophase said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well, since I still can respond to this... I would have not given this guy his money back. I&#039;m all for great customer service and refunding whoever wants one. But as soon as I feel that the person is a dick, I&#039;m keeping his money if I have fulfilled his order (or he forgets to cancel). F*ck him.<br /> <br /> BTW, I had this person ask to review stuff on her youtube channel, I offered to send her free a $40 product, she asked for a $100 product. I said no because it&#039;s $100, she said ok, she&#039;ll take the $40 one. I said, sorry her youtube account is not qualified to do a free review for us anymore. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Gotta crawl before you ball</div>

 

[ZF Lee]

<div class="bbWrapper">You all guys know that there&#039;s stuff in Insiders that could help him earn back his investment lol.<img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-rofl.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><br /> <br /> If I were him, I would be reading as much of Insiders Gold as I could till my eyes bled.<br /> <br /> The poor OP really missed out.</div>

 

[NewManRising]

<div class="bbWrapper">The way this guy handles this and how he freaked out that you did not respond within 2 hours tells you all you need to know about this person. Entitled, and not fastlane material. <br /> <br /> Sounds like someone desperate, insecure, and clueless. No girlfriend, no social life. I am guessing it is some dude that sits on the computer all day, no job, and looking for a get-rich-quick scheme.</div>

 

[Process]

<div class="bbWrapper">Read your damn contract, that’s what a recurring membership is. If you took any action at all you won’t be stressing about 59 doll hairs.</div>

 

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[Suzanne Bazemore]

<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> , I&#039;m sorry he treated you that way. Symbolic rep coming your way.</div>

 

[Suzanne Bazemore]

<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a>, I can&#039;t transfer any rep to you - I was going to give you $59.</div>

 

[Xeon]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23" data-quote="biophase" data-source="post: 756808" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756808" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756808">biophase said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I had this person ask to review stuff on her youtube channel, I offered to send her free a $40 product, she asked for a $100 product. I said no because it&#039;s $100, she said ok, she&#039;ll take the $40 one. I said, sorry her youtube account is not qualified to do a free review for us anymore. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Reminds me of those self-entitled influencers/bloggers who go to hotels/resorts/restaurants soliciting/demanding free stays/food for them to write an article/Instagram post in exchange. And if you don&#039;t, some will even threaten to write negative reviews.</div>

 

[Suzanne Bazemore]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50816" data-quote="Xeon" data-source="post: 756937" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756937" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756937">Xeon said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Reminds me of those self-entitled influencers/bloggers who go to hotels/resorts/restaurants soliciting/demanding free stays/food for them to write an article/Instagram post in exchange. And if you don&#039;t, some will even threaten to write negative reviews. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes, I like how <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/23/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="23" data-username="@biophase">@biophase</a> handled that. The guy on Pawn Stars handles people similarly who get greedy: they negotiate up, he negotiates down.</div>

 

[Jonathan Hoch]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50816" data-quote="Xeon" data-source="post: 756937" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756937" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756937">Xeon said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Reminds me of those self-entitled influencers/bloggers who go to hotels/resorts/restaurants soliciting/demanding free stays/food for them to write an article/Instagram post in exchange. And if you don&#039;t, some will even threaten to write negative reviews. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>When you try to threaten a business ran by a guy who probably inspires the Wendy’s Twitter...<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/307917" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">The Hotel Owner Who Called Out a Blogger for Asking for a Free Stay Now Wants $6.5 Million From Her</a></div>

 

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[Xeon]

<div class="bbWrapper">The thing I&#039;m actually curious with regards to <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/23/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="23" data-username="@biophase">@biophase</a> handling of the unreasonable demand, though, is did he consider what are the negative outcomes or impact if that lady went round to spread nasty / untrue negative remarks?<br /> <br /> Nowadays, the world is so inter-connected and any small complain can spread like wildfire on social media (TWITTER, FB, IG).<br /> <br /> I was thinking maybe if it&#039;s me, I would probably just close an eye, suck it up and let the lady have her way, in exchange for her to spread good reviews / vibes to the folks she knows.<br /> <br /> Maybe I&#039;m too soft lol.</div>

 

[masterneme]

<div class="bbWrapper">Somehow this behavior made me think that a reality show full of people like this would be extremely successful.<br /> <br /> The name of the show? Entitled.<br /> <br /> It would like an anti/reverse Shark Tank.<br /> <br /> Hmmm, I&#039;ll note that down...</div>

 

[PizzaOnTheRoof]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 63977" data-quote="Jonathan Hoch" data-source="post: 756990" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756990" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756990">Jonathan Hoch said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> When you try to threaten a business ran by a guy who probably inspires the Wendy’s Twitter...<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/307917" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">The Hotel Owner Who Called Out a Blogger for Asking for a Free Stay Now Wants $6.5 Million From Her</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I love when business owners lean into the negative publicity</div>

 

[Jonathan Hoch]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 58910" data-quote="PizzaOnTheRoof" data-source="post: 757004" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=757004" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-757004">PizzaOnTheRoof said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I love when business owners lean into the negative publicity </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>If that lady had done any research of who she was talking to, she would have FIRST seen that the lodge had 3x more followers, and SECOND noticed that they were in the business of being hilariously crass.<br /> <br /> The kicker, is when he invoiced the influencer for all of the free publicity. She had her sob story, and his loyal fan base loved him even more for his action!</div>

 

[Andy Black]

<div class="bbWrapper">I think it was Perry Marshall who uttered the phrase “Refund with glee”.<br /> <br /> If they get a client who’s a pita they refund them and send them on their way. It’s like the ultimate FU. “I’m paying you to go away.”</div>

 

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[MoneyDoc]

<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> The next time you need $59... just message me, I&#039;ll wire you...<br /> <br /> Lol it&#039;s hilarious the way this guy seriously thought MJ scammed him for $59... I wonder how mindsets like the one this guy has end up on this forum... disgustingly disrespectful. Just read the way he&#039;s writing... pissed me off.<br /> <br /> EDIT: You know what... I&#039;m gonna get my self an insiders subscription right now.<br /> <br /> EDIT 2: Done.</div>

 

[Royce2]

<div class="bbWrapper">Dude I paid the year subscription. And with the first day of reading through the posts it is easy to say that the content is priceless. Well worth the money, thank you MJ for making that premium option to reduce the noise and focus on actual quality content. Very cool. btw noob question, how do I change the line under my name that says bronze contributor, to say what I want?</div>

 

[B. Cole]

<div class="bbWrapper">That $59 would have bought a sweet steering wheel cover for the Raptor though...<br /> <br /> Just sayin’.<br /> <br /> <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":smuggy:" title="Smug Grin :smuggy:" data-shortname=":smuggy:" /></div>

 

[Raoul Duke]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 61837" data-quote="chad12" data-source="post: 756659" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=756659" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-756659">chad12 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> I know I am probably going to get thrown under the rug here but I am losing hope. I have VERY little money. I accidentally let my insider membership re-start and it charged my paypal account. I opened a Dispute becuase I had no recollection of &quot;viperion&quot;, I admit this is my mistake. The dispute was immediately closed and MJ Took my money.<br /> <br /> Now I do not have insider. I have messaged admins, I have made threads, nobody is responding to me.<br /> <br /> I want my money back. This is by literal definition fraudulent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="xE1Ktrz.png" data-src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxE1Ktrz.png&amp;hash=0250f3f43ba293e3cf6b4cf2955b80ff" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxE1Ktrz.png&amp;hash=0250f3f43ba293e3cf6b4cf2955b80ff" data-url="https://i.imgur.com/xE1Ktrz.png" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="xE1Ktrz.png" title="" width="" height="" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>