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I vote that future threads like this should be just locked immediately and directed towards some permanent mental health style post. The reason - the forum is NOT the place to help with this type of situation.
The isn't a tough love type moment - it is a get yourself some professional help immediately moment.
If someone gets to a place where they are really thinking of ending their own life then they can't even trust their own thoughts. Nor can they properly process and understand new information. What could be written in a thread like this is neither here nor there. Real help with a proper professional is needed.
And quick fix solutions aren't going to work either. There is no magic post that is going to turn this situation around. Just like how recovering after a serious injury or surgery can take months, improving from such a low mental point is going to take time, real work, and proper supervision or guidance. To trust that one post or thread will do the job is careless on both sides.
A close family friend recently killed himself just a few weeks ago. He jumped in a river drowned, and this was after a group of people tied to help him and get him to step down from a bridge. On that day there was no reasoning that was going to turn him around - he had already dipped below a certain point mentally and he would not turn back.
I think a good course of action is that someone with a background in mental health write one solid thread on this topic and recommend a course of action that people should take. Then any future threads on this topic are linked to that and then closed for new comments.
If someone came on here with severe drug or gambling addiction would be say some posts and assume they are now fine? Suicide is no different.
I will lock this thread for now and @MJ DeMarco can call it when he is online next.
OP - the forum isn't the place to help with this. Everyone means well and a lot of this advice is solid, but right now you need in person help and the support of professionals trained in this area. Google a place near you today, and go.
There will probably be a lot of personal resistance to do this - but you do need to do it. You need real help, and this forum cannot provide it to you at this level. When things improve, come back and we can help you progress from there.
The isn't a tough love type moment - it is a get yourself some professional help immediately moment.
If someone gets to a place where they are really thinking of ending their own life then they can't even trust their own thoughts. Nor can they properly process and understand new information. What could be written in a thread like this is neither here nor there. Real help with a proper professional is needed.
And quick fix solutions aren't going to work either. There is no magic post that is going to turn this situation around. Just like how recovering after a serious injury or surgery can take months, improving from such a low mental point is going to take time, real work, and proper supervision or guidance. To trust that one post or thread will do the job is careless on both sides.
A close family friend recently killed himself just a few weeks ago. He jumped in a river drowned, and this was after a group of people tied to help him and get him to step down from a bridge. On that day there was no reasoning that was going to turn him around - he had already dipped below a certain point mentally and he would not turn back.
I think a good course of action is that someone with a background in mental health write one solid thread on this topic and recommend a course of action that people should take. Then any future threads on this topic are linked to that and then closed for new comments.
If someone came on here with severe drug or gambling addiction would be say some posts and assume they are now fine? Suicide is no different.
I will lock this thread for now and @MJ DeMarco can call it when he is online next.
OP - the forum isn't the place to help with this. Everyone means well and a lot of this advice is solid, but right now you need in person help and the support of professionals trained in this area. Google a place near you today, and go.
There will probably be a lot of personal resistance to do this - but you do need to do it. You need real help, and this forum cannot provide it to you at this level. When things improve, come back and we can help you progress from there.