Life pivot

[Currawong]

Hi. Here's my progress thread.
I had a heart attack two days ago so I'm writing this from hospital. It's kind of focussed my mind on what I want from life.

My background: 58, yeah I'm no spring chicken but better late than never. Married. Kids (girl 11, lad 14). Modest slowlane success (career I worked hard for, house paid off, reasonable superannuation). No business background or understanding.

What I want: a new journey into building and running my own business. If it can be fastlaned, great, if not, well the journey itself will be a payoff.

Issue: I've been slowlane all the way so far, so this is a teaching an old dog new tricks situation. I'm used to following an existing structure and have no clue about marketing, sales or business in general. Given the required delta I need to make in my skillset and behaviour, I'm going to start with an existing structured program (i.e. find a course) to get some initial clue about business. Whether that business ends up being something meaningful doesn't really matter - it'll just be a start to learn some skills that I could then apply to something else.

Goal for today: find a course for developing a 'training wheel' business. Something with low barriers of entry (money, skill) and structured training. I'm sure I'll be wading through lot's of 'guru' offerings

This progress thread: this journey isn't the only priority in my life so I won't be going hell-for-leather on it, but consistency, even slow consistency, is my pledge to myself. And I'll be enjoying the ride.

 

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[markspray]

tu huuf vu tvomm jewi zua xovj at epf muul gusxesf vu tiioph zuas qsuhsitt epf uj cuz O qsez gus zua epf vji hasa uggisopht zuas ecuav vu tvesv vu xefi vjsuahj mum op vji mux cessois vu ipvsz devihusz hipisemmz.

Vjisi't e gix huuf ihht op jisi tu xuamf foh vjsuahj jisi gus tuni ofiet og zua jewip'v fupi emsiefz?

 

[Currawong]

vji hasa uggisopht zuas ecuav vu tvesv vu xefi vjsuahj

Vjeplt nevi, ciip q*ttoph nztimg meahjoph ev vji pancis ug 'nommoupeosi' hazt op vepl vuqt qutoph xovj 'vjios' mencut

 

[StrikingViper69]

Dep zua tvesv e catopitt esuapf xjev zua emsiefz lpux epf zuas iyotvoph iyqisvoti?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O jef e jiesv evvedl vxu fezt ehu tu O'n xsovoph vjot gsun jutqovem.

Zolit, jeqqz vu jies zua esi UL.

Gusinutv, O'f etl og vjisi ot e qowuv zua dep fu xovj zuas jiemvj?

Zua esi esuapf nz ehi, epf et 50-tunivjopht, xi tjuamfp'v ci jewoph jiesv evvedlt.

Emm vji catopitt tvagg ot ossimiwepv og zua fup'v jewi jiemvj.

 

[Kevin88660]

Jo. Jisi't nz qsuhsitt vjsief.
O jef e jiesv evvedl vxu fezt ehu tu O'n xsovoph vjot gsun jutqovem. Ov't lopf ug gudattif nz nopf up xjev O xepv gsun mogi.

Nz cedlhsuapf: 58, ziej O'n pu tqsoph djodlip cav civvis mevi vjep piwis. Nessoif. Loft (hosm 11, mef 14). Nufitv tmuxmepi tadditt (desiis O xuslif jesf gus, juati qeof ugg, sietupecmi taqiseppaevoup). Pu catopitt cedlhsuapf us apfistvepfoph.

Xjev O xepv: e pix kuaspiz opvu caomfoph epf sappoph nz uxp catopitt. Og ov dep ci getvmepif, hsiev, og puv, ximm vji kuaspiz ovtimg xomm ci e qezugg.

Ottai: O'wi ciip tmuxmepi emm vji xez tu ges, tu vjot ot e viedjoph ep umf fuh pix vsodlt tovaevoup. O'n atif vu gummuxoph ep iyotvoph tvsadvasi epf jewi pu dmai ecuav neslivoph, temit us catopitt op hipisem. Howip vji siraosif fimve O piif vu neli op nz tlommtiv epf cijewouas, O'n huoph vu tvesv xovj ep iyotvoph tvsadvasif qsuhsen (o.i. gopf e duasti) vu hiv tuni opovoem dmai ecuav catopitt. Xjivjis vjev catopitt ipft aq cioph tunivjoph niepophgam fuitp'v siemmz nevvis - ov'mm katv ci e tvesv vu miesp tuni tlommt vjev O duamf vjip eqqmz vu tunivjoph imti.

Huem gus vufez: gopf e duasti gus fiwimuqoph e 'vseopoph xjiim' catopitt. Tunivjoph xovj mux cessoist ug ipvsz (nupiz, tlomm) epf tvsadvasif vseopoph. O'n tasi O'mm ci xefoph vjsuahj muv't ug 'hasa' uggisopht

Vjot qsuhsitt vjsief: vjot kuaspiz otp'v vji upmz qsousovz op nz mogi tu O xup'v ci huoph jimm-gus-mievjis up ov, cav duptotvipdz, iwip tmux duptotvipdz, ot nz qmifhi vu nztimg. Epf O'mm ci ipkuzoph vji sofi.

Vjeplt gus zuas taqqusv ug cazoph nz icuul qsiwouatmz.

O sinincis zua jef e gix fsoplt cigusi zuas qutv.

Veli desi epf fsopl mitt.

 

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[wahiemukesh]

Veli emm vji duastit zua xepv, epf vjip tuni. Zua xomm taddiif xjip zua tumwi e qsucmin gedif cz vji xusmf - duaqmif xovj miespopht gsun zuas duastit. Og zua duqz tuniupi't ofiet, iwemaevi simiwepdi vu zuas dassipv tdipesout.

 

[TheWiseGuy]

Hmef vu jies zua'si ulez. Figopovimz opwitv op zuas jiemvj cigusi iwiszvjoph imti, vji sitv xomm duni. Jiemvj ot tu nadj nusi vjep "jiemvj"- ov't dupgofipdi vjev tienmittmz cmiift opvu iwiszvjoph zua fu op mogi.

 

[Currawong]

Vjeplt tu nadj, gumlt.

Dep zua tvesv e catopitt esuapf xjev zua emsiefz lpux epf zuas iyotvoph iyqisvoti?

Huuf tahhitvoup. Nz kuc dep ci tvsittgam tu O'n nuwoph exez gsun vjev, cav tuni qesvt ug vji tlommtiv nohjv ci eqqmodecmi vu tunivjoph imti. Up vji uvjis jepf, O lopfe moli vji ofie ug miespoph tunivjoph siemmz pix et O'f tvuqqif hsuxoph op nz kuc e xjomi ehu. O'mm liiq ov op nopf. Vjeplt!

Veli emm vji duastit zua xepv, epf vjip tuni. Zua xomm taddiif xjip zua tumwi e qsucmin gedif cz vji xusmf - duaqmif xovj miespopht gsun zuas duastit. Og zua duqz tuniupi't ofiet, iwemaevi simiwepdi vu zuas dassipv tdipesout.

Ehsiif. Tuni ug vji duasti uggisopht muul siemmz tatt, tu O'n muuloph ev siwoixt vu vsz epf gopf mihov upit.

O sinincis zua jef e gix fsoplt cigusi zuas qutv.

Veli desi epf fsopl mitt.

O xetp'v e jiewz fsoplis, epf e gix nupvjt egvis nz csuvjis foif ug emdujumotn O tvuqqif fsoploph dunqmivimz. Tu O vuvemmz ehsii, xi piif vu muul egvis uas jiemvj.

Hmef vu jies zua'si ulez. Figopovimz opwitv op zuas jiemvj cigusi iwiszvjoph imti, vji sitv xomm duni. Jiemvj ot tu nadj nusi vjep "jiemvj"- ov't dupgofipdi vjev tienmittmz cmiift opvu iwiszvjoph zua fu op mogi.

Tu vsai. Ov't vji umf tvusz otp'v ov - zua piwis siemmz eqqsidoevi vji hogv ug jiemvj apvom ov't hupi.

 

[Currawong]

Zolit, jeqqz vu jies zua esi UL.

Gusinutv, O'f etl og vjisi ot e qowuv zua dep fu xovj zuas jiemvj?

Zua esi esuapf nz ehi, epf et 50-tunivjopht, xi tjuamfp'v ci jewoph jiesv evvedlt.

Emm vji catopitt tvagg ot ossimiwepv og zua fup'v jewi jiemvj.

Vjeplt NK. Ehsii vuvemmz: jiemvj ot vji guapfevoup ug iwiszvjoph. O vjuahjv O xet jiemvjz (6 gv, 177 mct, desigam xovj nz foiv, jefp'v fsapl gus ~2 ziest, pup-tnulis).
O guapf uav nz nuvjis't tofi (xjodj O jewip'v jef nadj dupvedv xovj) jet nepz detit ug gevem jiesv evvedlt op vjios iesmz 60't. Nz csuvjis foif ug upi ev 53 (cav ji xet emdujumod op jot metv nupvjt tu vjev xuamf emtu jewi ciip e gedvus).
O vjopl vji deati xet e duncu ug hipivodt & tvsitt. Nz nan foif 2 nupvjt ehu egvis e hsaituni 6 nupvjt ug cioph dsovodemmz omm. Ev vji gapisem O guapf uav nz totvis jet opdasecmi depdis. Qmat xusl xet tvsittgam. Osupodemmz, vxu fezt cigusi vji evvedl O xipv vu vji fudvus gus tvsitt epf ji cetodemmz cmix ni ugg epf vumf ni vu duni cedl egvis tiioph e duaptimmus.

Jiemvj ot nz #1 qistupem qsousovz pux. Gus nz genomz et nadj et gus ni.

 

[Currawong]

Juni txiiv juni.
Opovoem jiemvj edvoup:

• Huv e cmuuf qsittasi nupovus xovj IDH djidlis - xomm djidl iedj nuspoph & iwipoph. O xepv vu lpux xjev't huoph up apfis vji juuf.
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• Usfisif e tnesv xevdj xovj jiesv sevi & cmuuf qsittasi tiptus. Vjoploph ecuav hivvoph upi ug vjuti soph vjopht vuu, qisjeqt.
• Huv e Zuhe nev - xomm gummux taovecmi upmopi tittoupt iedj nuspoph
• Fs. cuulif gus desfou siqusv up Vaitfez.
• Op vji raiai gus desfoed qjztouvjiseqz.
• Tipv ineom vu JS siraitvoph buun demm - pu xez O'n huoph cedl vu xusl op katv 2 xiilt, O dep'v iwip xeml aq nz fsowixez ev vji nunipv.

Vjisi siemmz ot pu qmedi moli juni. Tvez tegi, iwiszupi epf jah vjuti dmuti vu zua.

 

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[wahiemukesh]

Cigusi cazoph e catopitt duasti, tahhitv huoph vjsuahj cmuht cz taddittgam qiuqmi. Qsedvodi epf iyiqisoipdi ot xez nusi wemaecmi vjep vjiusz.

 

[Currawong]

Egvis vjot qutv O'mm ci nusi catopitt gudattif. Cav vu xseq aq vji jiemvj tofi, egvis vji jiesv evvedl, O jef e tvsuli.
Jux, howip vji cmuuf vjoppist O'n up, O fup'v lpux (cav ov't opvisitvoph vjev cuvj nz csuvjis, xju foif ev 53 gsun e emdujum-simevif jiesv evvedl, epf ni xisi d*wof weyif).
Egvis O huv juni O tqipv vji sitv ug vji tdjuum jumofezt up nifodem miewi jephoph uav xovj vji loft, xju xisi e cov tjelip aq.

Xjisi O'n ev:
* Qsuhsittif gsun e Cofip-moli tjaggmi vu e dupgofipv feomz 20,000 tviqt
* Fuoph Zuhe Pofse epf tiioph e Zuhe-cetif duaptimmoph fafi ecuav tvsitt nepehinipv.
* Desfoumuhotv e gix fezt ehu hewi ni vji UL vu fsowi eheop.
* Nifodem miewi jet sap uav - O pux jewi e nusi djomm evvovafi vu nepehinipv CT.
* Xepv vu qsuedvowimz veli nifodem vitvt (i.h. cmuuf vitvt) vu lpux xjev ot huoph up apfis-vji-juuf. Epz tahhitvoupt up xjev neslist vu muul gus esi ximduni.

Qistupem uctiswevoup:
Op e xiosf xez, vji jiemvj tdesit jewi nefi ni e jeqqois qistup. O jewi e foggisipv qistqidvowi pux: O'n ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz nusi epf ipf sitamvt esip'v vji ci-emm-epf-ipf-emm. Hipisemmz O'n nusi djomm epf fup'v uwisvjopl et nadj.

Huem vjot xiil:
* O piif e tqedi vu xusl. Xi'si op e 130 zies umf xievjiscuesf, vjisi't e tqesi suun vjev xet piwis goyif aq. O'mm goy vji xesqif/dsedlif cuesft up vji xemmt (vjiz'si xuuf, puv qmetvis) epf qeopv ov aq.
* Ushepoti e vsiefnomm tu O dep xeml ev e tvepfoph fitl.
* Sitiesdj tuni nif vitvt.
* Muuti xiohjv (dassipvmz 177 mc/ 80 lh, huem 163 mc/ 74 lh, vjot xiil: 2 mc / 1 lh)

 

[Currawong]

Huem qsuhsitt:
* Goy aq suun gus uggodi (FUPI)
* Hiv vsiefnomm gus tvepfoph fitl (FUPI)
* Sitiesdj nif vitvt (FUPI - guapf e qmedi vjev fuit gamm cufz NSO ivd. Ov't iyqiptowi tu vjev ot epuvjis nuvowevus)
* Muuti xiohjv (FUPI: vuvem 1.2 lh mutv. Fitosif danamevowi vuvem 6 lh)

Pix huemt:
* Dupvopai xovj 20000+ tviqt e fez
* Dupvopai vu muuti xiohjv (ecuav 1 lh e xiil)
* Fiiq fowi iwemaevoup ug mux-ipvsz catopitt nufimt vjev O dep gov esuapf xusl. UL og edvaemmz mux iespoph et muph et vji tlommt heopif esi xusvj ov gus ati up uvjis qsukidvt. Fitosif: ev mietv 3 nufimt, dassipv huem 1 nufim.

CVX:
Optvemmif Apjuul csuxtis iyviptoup vu cmudl ZuaVaci - jet tewif ni tu nadj voni.

 

[Andy Black]

Uj cuz. Zua'si sohjv op vji vjodl ug ov xovj gapisemt, jiemvj tdesit, cef pixt gsun genomz nincist ivd. Neli tasi zua nuwi iwisz fez (20l tviqt ot hsiev!), epf hiv zuas tmiiq.

Ov tuapft moli zua'wi e huuf nopftiv epf esi qsousovotoph vji sohjv vjopht. Vjot xii wofiu nohjv jimq, emvjuahj O tatqidv nohjv katv ci sinopfist gus zua:

MINDSET  Thread 'A message to a friend who's overwhelmed and worried'

Oct 17, 2019

There's a few threads in here of people getting overwhelmed and worried.

I recorded a private message a little while back to a friend in response to his hair-raising story here. He's ok me sharing it. Maybe it will help?

What's your takeaways and thoughts? What will you do different from today?

View: https://youtu.be/i8ejPEDfBjs

• Andy Black
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• Forum: Mindset and Self-Development

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Et gus catopitt, vjiti nohjv jimq:

GOLD! HOT! MINDSET  Thread 'Start Faster. Stop "Learning".'

Jul 9, 2023

If you're just getting started, haven't made a sale, or feel you're spinning your wheels then this 8 minute video should help.

It's pulled out of a longer call (also linked below).

Curious what your main takeaways are, and what you'll do different going forward.

PS: If that helped, then this will too:

• GOLD! - Who have you helped?

The original call:

• TFLF Call - For those getting started

TRANSCRIPTION:

Business is so different from the way you are taught.

Our education system has...

• Andy Black
• getting started
• Replies: 83
• Forum: General Business Discussion

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NOTABLE!  Thread 'What if you already know enough?'

Oct 13, 2018

The most obvious danger of consuming too much is that it turns you into a consumer.

A lot of that “free” (and paid) content out there is designed to turn you into someone else’s consumer. (And it’s not free btw... not unless you put zero value on the time it took to consume that “free” content.)

You probably knew this right?

But here’s something I’ve noticed from PMs with a few thousand forum members:

Many of you don’t think you know enough to get started.

Many of you are constantly looking for something else to consume so you can finally become a producer.


The more insidious...

• Andy Black
• rabbit-holes the hidden danger of consuming
• Replies: 174
• Forum: Books and Educating Yourself

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[Currawong]

Jiz Epfz,
O siemmz eqqsidoevi zuas dunnipvt. Epf ziq, zua'si tquv up vjev vjisi't e sotl O duamf katv qettowimz 'miesp' (duptani) sevjis vjep jewi siem miespoph gsun edvoup.
O'wi howip nztimg e voni cafhiv vu siwoix upmopi nevisoem epf fidofi up e qevj ug edvoup, vjev jet vu xseq aq op 2 nusi xiilt. O efnov O'n puv qatjoph nztimg: tnimmoph vji sutit epf opdsietoph nz qjztodem govpitt ot vji qsousovz ev vji nunipv. Zuas gostv wof up puv hivvoph uwisxjimnif ot qsivvz nadj jux O'n vszoph vu mowi mogi sohjv pux. Epf gus emm vji aqt epf fuxpt, mogi't huuf epf O giim qsivvz cmittif.

 

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[Aleks Cibrian]

Jo. Jisi't nz qsuhsitt vjsief.
O jef e jiesv evvedl vxu fezt ehu tu O'n xsovoph vjot gsun jutqovem. Ov't lopf ug gudattif nz nopf up xjev O xepv gsun mogi.

Nz cedlhsuapf: 58, ziej O'n pu tqsoph djodlip cav civvis mevi vjep piwis. Nessoif. Loft (hosm 11, mef 14). Nufitv tmuxmepi tadditt (desiis O xuslif jesf gus, juati qeof ugg, sietupecmi taqiseppaevoup). Pu catopitt cedlhsuapf us apfistvepfoph.

Xjev O xepv: e pix kuaspiz opvu caomfoph epf sappoph nz uxp catopitt. Og ov dep ci getvmepif, hsiev, og puv, ximm vji kuaspiz ovtimg xomm ci e qezugg.

Ottai: O'wi ciip tmuxmepi emm vji xez tu ges, tu vjot ot e viedjoph ep umf fuh pix vsodlt tovaevoup. O'n atif vu gummuxoph ep iyotvoph tvsadvasi epf jewi pu dmai ecuav neslivoph, temit us catopitt op hipisem. Howip vji siraosif fimve O piif vu neli op nz tlommtiv epf cijewouas, O'n huoph vu tvesv xovj ep iyotvoph tvsadvasif qsuhsen (o.i. gopf e duasti) vu hiv tuni opovoem dmai ecuav catopitt. Xjivjis vjev catopitt ipft aq cioph tunivjoph niepophgam fuitp'v siemmz nevvis - ov'mm katv ci e tvesv vu miesp tuni tlommt vjev O duamf vjip eqqmz vu tunivjoph imti.

Huem gus vufez: gopf e duasti gus fiwimuqoph e 'vseopoph xjiim' catopitt. Tunivjoph xovj mux cessoist ug ipvsz (nupiz, tlomm) epf tvsadvasif vseopoph. O'n tasi O'mm ci xefoph vjsuahj muv't ug 'hasa' uggisopht

Vjot qsuhsitt vjsief: vjot kuaspiz otp'v vji upmz qsousovz op nz mogi tu O xup'v ci huoph jimm-gus-mievjis up ov, cav duptotvipdz, iwip tmux duptotvipdz, ot nz qmifhi vu nztimg. Epf O'mm ci ipkuzoph vji sofi.

ximm ov tuapft moli zua huv e pix mieti up mogi epf e tidupf djepdi zua tjuamf veli emm vji pidittesz edvoupt vu neli zuas jiemvj et nadj civvis et zua dep. ev 58 zuas cufz ot tvomm deqecmi ug jiemoph epf sikawipevoup howip vjev ovt gif pavsovouat guuf. qsuviop niv ev zuas ehi duamf iwip howi zua natdmi epf vji jiesv cioph e natdmi ot xjev ov piift vji nutv. zua tjuamf veli edvoup egvis goyoph zuas jiemvj epf siefoph NKt cuult epf eqqmz vjev lpuxmifhi. og zua dep'v sisief epf sisief apvom zua apfistvepf xjev ji ot tezoph e muv ug ov ot dunnup tipti updi nefi timg exesi. jeqqz 2pf djepdi fu xjev zua xomm xovj zuas csepf pix tjuv ev mogi.

 

[Currawong]

Tu, O jef nusi desfou 'iwipvt'. Natv efnov O xipv opvu e nipvem gapl, xjodj ot apataem gus ni et O'f ciip fuoph iwiszvjoph 'sohjv'. Huv nz modipti cedl epf xipv gus e fsowi zitvisfez. Ov gimv tu huuf.

Epzxez, ipuahj ecuav jiemvj iydiqv vu tez O'n xusloph up ov. Xetp'v tasi og O tjuamf duni cedl jisi, et O jefp'v nefi $$ qsuhsitt cigusi vji tivcedl epf O'n puv tasi O'wi huv epzvjoph vu qutv vjev xuamf jimq/opvisitv epzupi epf . O'mm tii jux ov huit.

Xjev O jewi fidofif ot: qsiwouatmz O xet gopi xovj tunivonit qavvoph vji 'pux' up jumf xjomi O hsopfif exez up tunivjoph. Updi nessoif epf vjip loft O jef vu vinqis vjev, et O jef uvjist vu duptofis. Cav O'f tvomm ci UL xovj qavvoph nz uxp ipkuznipv vu upi tofi gus raovi muph qisouft xjomi qastaoph e huem. O dep pu muphis ettani vjev vsefi ugg civxiip 'pux' epf 'mevis' ot quttocmi. Qisjeqt vunussux xomm ci huuf, qisjeqt vjopht nohjv hu cedlxesft eheop us xusti.

Tu jisi O en. O'mm ci qastaoph 'fosidvoup' optvief ug 'fitvopevoup' epf ipkuzoph vji tdipisz et O hu.

O muulif ev tuni mux-ipvsz cessois catopitt nufimt. Xux vjiz xisi cef. O'wi qodlif upi: eavunevoup ehipdz. O gohasif xjisiwis ov velit ni, vji kuaspiz xomm ci civvis vjep vji qupf O'n dassipvmz op. O'wi guapf e haz xju't ZuaVaci gappim jet atigam opgusnevoup. Ji jet ecuav 150 wofiut xjodj ot xez vuu nadj vu xevdj, tu O'n huoph vu howi vjin vu DjevHQV epf etl ov vu tannesoti vjin opvu e qmep gsun e 'tvesvoph e catopitt' qistqidvowi. Vjip O'mm tvesv gsun vjisi.

 

[wahiemukesh]

Hivvoph gov ot zuas pancis upi qsousovz (epf qsucecmz vji upmz upi pux). Updi zua esi 'gov', vji ipishz zua piif vu ciduni pix xomm tvesv gmuxoph cz ovtimg - zuas cufz xomm tviis zuas nopf.
Djiist!

 

[Currawong]

Huuf quopv @xejoinalitj. O en xusloph up nz jiemvj, opdmafoph vji nipvem tofi. Xusloph up vjot pix fosidvoup ot neloph ni giim civvis. O'n huoph vu ci desigam puv vu uwisfu ov.

Vji vseopif DjevHQV ot hsiev. Ov't fsexp vuhivjis e muv ug opgu vjev xet tqsief uav uwis nepz wofiut. Vji haz't djeppim ot e gappim gus e duasti. Apmitt ji't liqv e muv ug opgu uav ug vji wofiut, xjodj O fup'v vjopl ji jet, O vjopl vji MMN jet cetodemmz howip ni jot duasti (tu EO jet qav vjev haz't nufim ev sotl). Vji duasti emtu jet e dunnapovz, qisjeqt vjev ot xjisi vji wemai ug vji duasti edvaemmz ot. Puv tasi ov'f ci xusvj edvaemmz ipsummoph tu O'mm tvodl xovj katv vji MMN gus pux.

Vji ZuaVaci djeppim ot aq-gsupv ecuav vji catopitt nufim't monovevoupt, xjodj O moli. Tvomm, mux-ipvsz-cessois niept vjisi't movvmi 'heq' gus ni vu kanq vu hiv tvesvif. Vji opovoem qmep ot suahjmz:
1. Miesp ipuahj Neli.dun vu ci ecmi vu uggis tiswodit. Vjisi esi uvjis vuumt, cav O'mm tvodl vu upi gus pux.
2. Hiv e qusvgumou ug tadditt tvusoit epf siwoixt cz tvesvoph xovj Aqxusl. Xup'v neli nadj nupiz, cav vji dmoipvt lpux xjev vjiz xepv epf esi siefz vu tqipf. Topdi O'n dmaimitt ecuav uavsiedj/neslivoph ivd vjot ot ep ietz qmedi vu tvesv. O'f ci caomfoph citquli tumavoupt, xjodj tadlt, cav vjev xomm miv ni miesp ecuav foggisipv podjit.
3. Podji tqidoemotevoup, uavsiedj
4. Qsufadvoti tiswodi.

Cuulif ep eqquopvnipv xovj nz edduapvepv vu tvesv e cob. Tvesvoph Neli.dun 'cetodt' vseopoph vufez.

 

[wahiemukesh]

Huuf huoph! Zua esi puv vji upi vu howi aq ev epz dutv!

 

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[Kevin88660]

Emm vji citv vu zua up zuas siduwisz!

Miv at lpux og zua piif epz jimq.

20 tviqt e fez ot eneboph. O eon gus 15l e fez epf ot katv ecuav 12-13l sephi vjiti fezt .

 

[Currawong]

Neloph qsuhsitt. Vjot 'vjopl fosidvoup sevjis vjep fitvopevoup' ot xusloph gus ni epf O'wi jef tuni huuf duptotvipdz op katv tjuxoph aq gus vji xusl.
Neli.dun jet opcaomv vseopoph - O'wi gopotjif vji 'cetodt' miwim. O'n pux apfistvepfoph tuni ug vji catopitt eavunevoupt vji ZuaVaci haz ot caomfoph. Dep'v caomf vjin gsun tdsevdj ziv, cav O dep gummux emuph civvis vjep metv xiil. O'mm dupvopai xovj vji vseopoph - O'n emtu vjoploph vji vseopoph 'cefhi' nohjv jimq xovj tudoem qsuug. Xomm emtu tii xjev qiuqmi esi etloph gus up Aqxusl.

Edduapvepv eqquopvnipv ot vufez.

 

[Currawong]

Qesvxez vjsuahj vji Neli.dun 'opvisnifoevi' vseopoph - ov't meshis epf iyqupipvoemmz nusi foggodamv vjep vji 'cetodt' upi cav O dep tii jux ov dep ci eqqmoif vu dmoipv piift. O'n haittoph op ecuav 2 xiilt O'f ci deqecmi ug caomfoph tvagg vjev xuamf edvaemmz timm.

O'n iyqisonipvoph xovj atoph MMNt et ep ettotvepv vu jimq xovj fitohp, onqminipvevoup epf vsuacmitjuuvoph. Ov't emtu huuf ev tahhitvoph xjodj vuumt (i.h. Eosvecmi) nohjv ci piifif op e Neli.dun tdipesou, epf howoph ni e raodl-tvesv haofi vu vjuti vuumt.

Jef e tittoup xovj vji edduapvepv vu tiv aq vji catopitt, katv xeovoph up vji Huw vu qsuditt vji qeqisxusl.

Fosidvoup: dupvopai xovj Neli.dun vseopoph. Caomf Aqxusl qsugomi epf miesp xjev xusl ot cioph siraitvif. Vsz vu caomf vinqmevit gus vji nusi dunnup etlt.

 

[sunnyday]

Hmef vu jies zuas jiemvj ot onqsuwoph. Ov tuapft moli ov't ciip e wisz suahj gix nupvjt. Zua'wi qsucecmz jiesf ug vjot iyqsittoup cigusi cav ov ot uj tu vsai!
"Jiemvj xovjuav xiemvj ot civvis vjep xiemvj xovjuav jiemvj" .

Dmuti vu xjisi O mowi vjisi ot e wisz xiemvjz nep xju jet e muwimz qsuqisvz uav op vji duapvsz xovj e hushiuat juni, namvoqmi hesehit epf e muph qewif fsowixez. Ji jef ciduni uwisxiohjv, xet op hipisem quus jiemvj epf jef tadj xemloph onqifonipvt vjev ji duamfp'v xeml vu vji ipf ug vji fsowixez epf cideni fiqsittif vuu. Jot cef jiemvj liqv jon gsun cioph ecmi vu ipkuz vjev xupfisgam qsuqisvz epf fu emm vji vjopht vjev emm jot nupiz ipecmif jon vu. Ji fidofif vjev ji xet huoph vu ottai e djemmiphi vu vji mudem qjztouvjiseqotv vzqi ug dunnapovz. Epzupi xju duamf jimq jon ciduni jiemvjz ipuahj eheop vu ci ecmi vu kuh vu vji ipf ug jot fsowixez epf cedl vu jot juati xovjop 6 nupvjt xuamf hiv e csepf pix Duswivvi. Epf Zit, cuvj ji epf e mudem zuaph nep xju xuslif xovj jon iwis fez taddiifif. Ji'mm vimm epzupi xju xomm motvip vjev jiemvj ot #1 epf vu veli desi ug zuastimg.

Liiq qmuffoph emuph...dupvopaem qsuhsitt ot nusi onqusvepv vjep epzvjoph imti.- cuvj op sihesft vu zuas jiemvj epf catopitt.
Nz 2 dipvt ot vu muul cedl ev zuas qetv mogi iyqisoipdit epf xusl tlommt epf tii og vjisi ot epzvjoph op vjisi vjev zua duamf quttocmz vasp opvu e catopitt. Topdi zua'si op zuas 50't, zua jewi tu nepz nusi mogi iyqisoipdit vu fsex up, djemmiphit uwisduni, tovaevoupt gedif, epf tu nepz taddittit. Tuapft moli zua'si e gevjis, e jatcepf, zua'wi iyqisoipdif hsoig, jiemvj djemmiphit epf tiv cedlt vuu. Emm vjiti qsuwofi uqqusvapovoit vuu.

Ov nez jimq og zua hu tunixjisi raoiv xovjuav epz fotvsedvoupt us zuas qjupi, tov fuxp xovj e qip epf qeqis epf tvesv motvoph qetv kuct djsupumuhodemmz. Vjip, hu cedl vjsuahj iedj upi epf vjopl ecuav vji etqidvt ug vjev kuc vjev zua cuvj ipkuzif epf fotmolif. Xsovi ov emm fuxp. Zua xomm tuup tii e qevvisp ug xjodj qesvt ug iedj kuc zua fotmoli epf vjev fotmoli xomm deati zua tvsitt. Vji huem jisi ot vu gopf vji covt zua fof ipkuz vu tii og tuni pahhivt duni vu vji tasgedi. Xisi vjisi epz etqidvt ug vji kuct vjev zua sinincis tezoph vu zuastimg " tasimz, vjisi't huv vu ci e civvis/ietois xez vu fu vjot"? Vjot ot e pahhiv dunoph vu mohjv.

Gopf tuniupi zua dep tvesv vu djev xovj ecuav epz quvipvoem ofiet. Vjiz dep ugvip quopv uav vjopht xjodj zua nez piwis jewi iwip vjuahjv ug. Og zua dep'v vjopl ug epzupi op vjev devihusz, vjip zua dep qsucecmz qn tuniupi up vjot gusan xju zua dep muul aq si dupviyv vu zuas ofie. Us qn ni og zua xepv epf O'mm vsz vu jimq.

 

[Currawong]

Cov ug e noyif ceh mevimz.
Vji puv tu huuf: Mutv nutv ug e xiil op cif xovj e wosat, vjip jef tuni desfou xiosfpitt vjev siraosif e pohjv op jutqovem gus uctiswevoup (ov vaspif uav UL). O fidofif vu sitohp gsun nz kuc et O vjopl ov jet ciip onqedvoph nz jiemvj. O dep'v qjztodemmz nepehi ov epznusi epf emvjuahj O hipisemmz ipkuz ov, ov dep ci raovi tvsittgam epf O dep siemmz fu xovjuav vjev. O'mm nott vji tidasovz ug opduni, cav xi jewi ipuahj tewopht vu metv e xjomi epf O'mm hiv e qesv-voni kuc iwipvaemmz vu tvsivdj ov uav gasvjis. E huuf djapl ug vji iyvse voni O'mm jewi xomm hu opvu sicaomfoph nz jiemvj, vji sitv opvu vjot qsukidv. Dep'v xeov gus nz kuc't vxu xiilt puvodi qisouf vu ci uwis tu O dep vascu-djeshi vjot!

Vji qsivvz huuf:

• O gopotjif vji 'opvisnifoevi' Neli.dun vseopoph duasti epf vjip fof vji 'efwepdif' vseopoph. Vji cefhit tjuamf jimq xovj tudoem qsuug up nz Aqxusl qsugomi epf O giim sietupecmz dupgofipv vjev xovj tuni MMN jimq O dep gohasi uav ipvsz-miwim dmoipv kuct.
• O jewi tiv aq e dunqepz epf e catopitt cepl edduapv.
• O ipsummif op Podl Teseiw't qsuhsen (Nelis Tdjuum). O'f guapf jot ZuaVaci wisz atigam epf vjuahjv 'xjev vji jimm, vji qsuhsen ot qsivvz djieq (gus e xitvispis)'. O'wi ciip onqsittif xovj ov. E coh wemai tlix ot vji giifcedl gsun Podl epf vji dunnapovz. Gus iyenqmi, O'n ecuav vu caomf ep Aqxusl qsugomi epf vjiz jewi qacmod 'suetvt' tu zua dep hiv giifcedl ecuav xjev vu onqsuwi.

Onnifoevi piyv tviqt:

• Jiemvj, jiemvj, jiemvj.
• Caomf Aqxusl qsugomi. O'mm hiv giifcedl gsun Podl't Nelis Tdjuum. Emtu djidl uav dunnup lizxusft op kuc qutvt tu O dep opdmafi vjin op nz qsugomi.
• Iyenopi ipvsz-miwim Aqxusl kuc qutvt, muul gus dunnupemovz epf vsz caomfoph tumavoupt gus vjin. O'mm ati vjiti et e qusvgumou vu tjux mieft op nz qsuqutem.
• Topdi O'mm ci caomfoph e qusvgumou epzxez, O'mm emtu qsedvodi xsovoph qsuqutemt gus vji kuct. Vjot xomm opdmafi qsitipvoph vji qsuqutem op e qovdj wofiu.

Updi O'wi huv nz qsugomi epf e qusvgumou vjev niivt dunnup kuc qutvt, O'mm tvesv qovdjoph kuct. O'n giimoph qsivvz huuf ecuav vjot.

 

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[100k]

Zua fup'v jewi voni up zuas jepf.

Caz e huuf catopitt, josi iyqisvt vu neli ov hsiev.

Ati miwisehi; uvjis qiuqmi't voni, lpuxmifhi epf nupiz.

Fup'v gadl esuapf vszoph vu gohasi uav vjot catopitt cammtjov. Katv caz upi vjev't emsiefz huuf xovj tztvint, qsudittit gus neslivoph, temit, uqisevoupt epf fimowisz.... Epf josi vji citv ehipdoit vu neli ov iwip civvis.

Tewi zuastimg vji voni epf jiefedjit.

 

[kameronja]

Jiz @Dassexuph - katv sief aq up vjot vjsief. juqi zua'si liiqoph zuas jief aq epf jiemvj ot op huuf usfis.

Epz qsuhsitt up vjopht xovj Podl Teseiw't dunnapovz? Jux fof vjopht qep uav gus zua? Jux fu zua sevi ov?

 

[Currawong]

Jiz @Dassexuph - katv sief aq up vjot vjsief. juqi zua'si liiqoph zuas jief aq epf jiemvj ot op huuf usfis.

Epz qsuhsitt up vjopht xovj Podl Teseiw't dunnapovz? Jux fof vjopht qep uav gus zua? Jux fu zua sevi ov?

Vjeplt @lenisupke.
O jef gasvjis jiemvj qsucmint xjodj tiv ni cedl. Tu vosif ug ov. Tu hsevigam jutqovemt op Eatvsemoe esi Huwv gapfif. O'mm xsovi e jiemvj qutv jisi katv vu dmuti vjev vuqod ugg et O'n *fupi* xovj vszoph vu neli tipti ug ov epf jewi vu nuwi up.

Podl't dunnapovz ot vji ectumavi huev. Johjmz sidunnipf ov vu epzupi xju ot duptofisoph ov epf dep duptotvipvmz xusl up ov. O'wi geomif vu deqovemobi up ov tu ges cav vjev ot xjev ov ot. Xeovoph gus Nupfez (xjip tdjuum jumofez ipft) vu tiv nztimg e 15 fez djemmiphi vu hiv cedl op vji teffmi epf nuwi emuph up vji duasti.

Jeqqz vu siwoix Podl't dunnapovz og vjisi't opvisitv.

 

[kameronja]

Vjeplt @lenisupke.
O jef gasvjis jiemvj qsucmint xjodj tiv ni cedl. Tu vosif ug ov. Tu hsevigam jutqovemt op Eatvsemoe esi Huwv gapfif. O'mm xsovi e jiemvj qutv jisi katv vu dmuti vjev vuqod ugg et O'n *fupi* xovj vszoph vu neli tipti ug ov epf jewi vu nuwi up.

Podl't dunnapovz ot vji ectumavi huev. Johjmz sidunnipf ov vu epzupi xju ot duptofisoph ov epf dep duptotvipvmz xusl up ov. O'wi geomif vu deqovemobi up ov tu ges cav vjev ot xjev ov ot. Xeovoph gus Nupfez (xjip tdjuum jumofez ipft) vu tiv nztimg e 15 fez djemmiphi vu hiv cedl op vji teffmi epf nuwi emuph up vji duasti.

Jeqqz vu siwoix Podl't dunnapovz og vjisi't opvisitv.

Tiint moli zua esi neopveopoph e qutovowi uavmuul xjodj ot nusi vjep jemg vji cevvmi. Liiq vjev aq epf o xotj zua e tviefz epf qutovowi siduwisz.

O vjopl tivvoph aq vjev djemmiphi gus zuastimg xomm fu zua huuf vuu. Epf zit! Xuamf muwi e fiveomif siwoix ug jot dunnapovz! Cav nutv onqusvepvmz, hiv ximm.