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In my experience, introverts make up the majority of most forums I have spent time on. It's a good communication channel for introverts. It lets you connect with likeminded people while still keeping some distance, in a way.

Extroverts are maybe more prone to talking to people in real life, facebook etc?
 

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It took 7-ish DMs to get a response from one celeb, but when they finally saw it, it turned into a free TV product-placement deal
Doesn't this kinda irritate them and potentially get you into their spam zone?
Also, how long do you wait before you send another DM?
 

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To add to that: perhaps the introvert entrepreneurs are here on the forum whereas the extrovert entrepreneurs are out at business networking groups ;)
Have you been to any business networking groups?

They're typically filled with idiot salespeople trying to suck as much value out of you as they can.

At least here if someone tries to push a crappy product, I can talk trash and then hit ignore. That's a lot harder to do in person.
 
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To add to that: perhaps the introvert entrepreneurs are here on the forum whereas the extrovert entrepreneurs are out at business networking groups ;)
Yes, indeed :)
 
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Doesn't this kinda irritate them and potentially get you into their spam zone?
Also, how long do you wait before you send another DM?
I don't think so ... I think the point is that they don't even see the first 6 of them. If they are over a certain threshold, let's say 500k/1m++ they are getting tons of messages in "message requests" folder and unless they have a dedicated minion who takes care of their account, they won't probably see it ...

Re. waiting, I can't speak for @amp0193 but I have good results with 1 week of waiting on other channels, so I'd try to replicate it on Instagram as well.
 
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In my experience, introverts make up the majority of most forums I have spent time on. It's a good communication channel for introverts. It lets you connect with likeminded people while still keeping some distance, in a way.

Extroverts are maybe more prone to talking to people in real life, facebook etc?
Thanks for sharing @jon.M ! What are your favorite outreach tactics/channels?
 
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I think we're kind of all the same, we love being around people but not too much, we prefer to be alone most of the time and minding our own business.

Being around / interacting with people all day long is not possible, just a bit each day is enough.
Yeah, sounds about right @AlessioLC ... what are your favorite outreach tactics/channels?
 
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It's an on-going experiment. One I'll take to scale next year. I have made some very interesting connections and some cool opportunities through Instagram DMs. It took 7-ish DMs to get a response from one celeb, but when they finally saw it, it turned into a free TV product-placement deal.

Another approach I'll be trying is a cross-channel blitz on these folks. Trying to reach them everywhere to see what gets through. Usually a non-response on a big account is going to be because they didn't see it.

For my business, it doesn't make sense to partner with anyone with less than a few hundred thousand followers. Standing out is a challenge yes. Still learning.
Another example, that smart persistence is worth it :) Thanks for sharing your experience!!

I bet the cross-channel blitz needs to be very balanced to avoid the 'spam-report', but otherwise I can imagine that with big accounts they just don't see it among the sea of other messages.
 
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I don't think the results are surprising at all.

The majority of this forum consists of social outcasts - people that decided to think a different way than the rest of society.

Personally, I'm introverted most of the time, but I attribute that not to being a loner, but to mostly not seeing eye to eye with most people I meet. The majority of people are uninteresting or incapable of having an interaction that supersedes the entertainment value of spending time by myself.

I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.

Put an athlete in a world of academics and he becomes the loner that likes to run by himself. Put a professor in a world of athletes and he becomes the weirdo that reads books.

Basically: whether you're introverted or extroverted is extremely dependent on your environment. Since we belong to a small subsect of people, we have to create our own world if we want to be extroverts.
Thanks for sharing @AgainstAllOdds That's a great angle on it :) Very practical.

Care to share your favorite outreach tactics/channels? cheers
 
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Have you been to any business networking groups?

They're typically filled with idiot salespeople trying to suck as much value out of you as they can.

At least here if someone tries to push a crappy product, I can talk trash and then hit ignore. That's a lot harder to do in person.
Depends ... judging by your experience, I am grateful I haven't been to such, although once almost went to Kiosaki's Rich Dad/Poor Dad seminar. My intuition punched me in my b*lls before I clicked "register" :) Phew!!

I have the most experience with startup meetups filled with people with 10-15k/m jobs who are lost or by startup founders who are "playing on business" ... and once I explain to them, just read TMFL or Unscripted I always get this blank stare. Very uninspirational. I stopped going altogether.

Now mostly attending pitch presentations to sponge inspiration ... however, it's becoming very annoying because these wannapreneurs are judged based on how well they present instead of a traction and business model.

Are there any TMFL chapters across the world organizing meetups?
 

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Have you been to any business networking groups?

They're typically filled with idiot salespeople trying to suck as much value out of you as they can.

At least here if someone tries to push a crappy product, I can talk trash and then hit ignore. That's a lot harder to do in person.
Oh yes... I wasted 4 months of my life earlier this year going to networking groups almost daily. Never again!
 

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I think its normal for go-getters to be more "Introverts" than Extroverts because they are spending most of their time reading, learning, practising and executing the stuff they learn.

We don't have time to go to the bar everyday after work, we don't have time to watch the NFL/NBA match, we don't have time to just kick shit & play PS3 while kicking back a few brewskies.

A lot of us are not putting in any time into social things - so obviously over time we become uncomfortable in those situations and inevitably we become introverts - I used to be an extrovert when I was younger, but once I DECIDED to commit to becoming successful (i.e I wanted success as much as a drowning man wants to breath air!) I slowly became an introvert - now I'm pretty much a loner that just enjoys my own company.
 

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Neither, just like the majority of people probably. I love to be alone sometimes and I love to be with people too.

I've seen that this introvert/extrovert stuff leads to a static mindset in general ("I can't do that because I'm a this or that"), just like most of personality tests and profiles.

Personality tests are mental masturbation anyway. They lead to nothing but to getting stuck in limited beliefs.

My tactics? What makes people buy from me, not what fits my personality lmfao.
I agree with this. I'm probably an extrovert-introvert if one exists. I love time to myself but if I need to get up and present in front of a group of strangers no problem.

-cold/warm emails
-content marketing
-solving people's problems, oh and by the way I do ______
You can’t say ‘neither’... that’s not how it works
Everyone has introvert and extrovert tendencies

When someone says ‘in some cases I’m an introvert,
in some cases I’m an extrovert’ that’s just like ‘okay so you’re a human?'

Introvert / Extrovert refers to where on the spectrum you
fall, and yes... in some cases people are in the middle, but
since our guesses are notoriously inaccurate you would
need to take a Big 5 Assessment to figure that out. Also,
Myers Briggs is kaka. Big 5 is the only scientifically valid
Personality Assment.

Understand Myself - What You Need to Know

Warning, it cost $8, but it’s well worth it. Taking that specific Big 5 Assessment was probably one of the smartest thing I’ve ever done, and I think I even posted about it in the ‘what’s the best value you’ve ever payed for’ thread. Knowing your personality lets you know what types of work you’re best suited for, what you can work on, strengths, weaknesses.



Anyway, to answer the question, I’m neither. Sometimes I’m an int... just kidding. I’m mostly Introverted, but people think I’m extroverted. When it comes to social events, I’m usually the life of the party, so people think ‘extroverted.’ But what they don’t see is how much i need alone time, and too much socialization empties my batteries quickly.
 

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The websites results described me to a T.... it was so accurate it was kinda of strange reading it.

Personality type, INTP-A, Logician.
 

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I don't think the results are surprising at all.

The majority of this forum consists of social outcasts - people that decided to think a different way than the rest of society.

Personally, I'm introverted most of the time, but I attribute that not to being a loner, but to mostly not seeing eye to eye with most people I meet. The majority of people are uninteresting or incapable of having an interaction that supersedes the entertainment value of spending time by myself.

I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.

Put an athlete in a world of academics and he becomes the loner that likes to run by himself. Put a professor in a world of athletes and he becomes the weirdo that reads books.

Basically: whether you're introverted or extroverted is extremely dependent on your environment. Since we belong to a small subsect of people, we have to create our own world if we want to be extroverts.
Man, this hits the nail on the head.

My family says that I need to get out more and socialize. I find socializing with most people to be boring and unfulfilling as most people just talk about partying, things they hate about their job, or the latest episode of American Idol.

It seems like a lot of people have just given up on their dreams. At least with entrepreneurship, there's still a fire within someone to do big things or to go out and fulfill their dreams.
 

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Re. waiting, I can't speak for @amp0193 but I have good results with 1 week of waiting on other channels, so I'd try to replicate it on Instagram as well.
Still learning and testing. I generally wait a week or so before pings. After a while I start looking at other ways to get their attention.

I had good luck a couple of times with an image in the first DM. Grabs attention for just a moment, if the DM is opened.
 

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A lot of us are not putting in any time into social things - so obviously over time we become uncomfortable in those situations and inevitably we become introverts - I used to be an extrovert when I was younger, but once I DECIDED to commit to becoming successful (i.e I wanted success as much as a drowning man wants to breath air!) I slowly became an introvert - now I'm pretty much a loner that just enjoys my own company.
Sounds like it's working for you, so not suggesting that you need to change anything... just gonna share.

The best thing I've learned from @LightHouse in the last couple of months is to strive for success is in all areas of your life. If you get to the top of the business world, but you've got no one left around you... is it really a success? Just something to think about.

Yes, for me, business is the primary focus. However, each week I am now setting goals for family, goals for friends, goals for health and personal finance.

To attempt to quantify it, I would say that my relationship with my wife is 3x better than before I started setting these goals 2 months ago. I've made time for a lunch here and there for friends when I normally wouldn't have thought to. I should probably call my mom more... maybe that'll be a goal for next week.
 

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I am an extreme introvert -- all quizzes give me the same "INTJ" personality type. Though I do like the company of other people, I just prefer to do my own things the way I like them, and I hate compromising.
Wow I've finally come across another INTJ :smile: seems we're a rare breed!

I see you've discovered the local meetup dot com crews too
Hahah oh the pain!
 

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Sounds like it's working for you, so not suggesting that you need to change anything... just gonna share.

The best thing I've learned from @LightHouse in the last couple of months is to strive for success is in all areas of your life. If you get to the top of the business world, but you've got no one left around you... is it really a success? Just something to think about.

Yes, for me, business is the primary focus. However, each week I am now setting goals for family, goals for friends, goals for health and personal finance.

To attempt to quantify it, I would say that my relationship with my wife is 3x better than before I started setting these goals 2 months ago. I've made time for a lunch here and there for friends when I normally wouldn't have thought to. I should probably call my mom more... maybe that'll be a goal for next week.
I hear ya.... and agree with you to a degree. I'm hoping to connect with the other go-getters once I'm more comfortable. As for family and such, I'm totally putting starting one or dating until I am able to work part time (with my business system carrying most of the load).

BTW... here's a similar message straight from the horses mouth (or in this case, a Shark's mouth):

 

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I'm a pretty extroverted person. People who go out with me think it's hilarious because I'll often end up talking to random people and it will be like we've been friends forever. A few weeks ago I talked to a Starbucks barista who I never met before for 10 minutes about mold exposure. I never even think about mold exposure ever.

People tend to open up to me very quickly for some reason.

My ex's sister would always say to me, "you'd be a really attractive guy if you just stopped talking once in a while." Was meant jokingly of course lol. But it's true, sometimes I don't shut up.

I'm usually the loudest person the room, but I never notice until someone tells me. It seems like my voice is just naturally loud.

I don't like being alone for long periods of time. If I have an idea I like bouncing it off other people.

I like things that are tangible. I like to do things rather than think about them. It's like a Shaolin monk said, move in the body not in the mind. I don't like reading. A month ago I counted 75 books I have which I haven't finished, but now the number is probably at 150. I love learning, but I wish I could just download it into my brain. I'm mostly a kinaesthetic learner, I quickly grasp things which include biomechanics.

And speaking of body, mine is always moving, I'm rarely still. It's probably why I'm technically underweight despite the fact that like a zebra (also genetics, when my mom was a model she could eat insane amounts of food and never dieted). I out-eat people who weight twice as much as me. Generally everything in my mind is exposed outward in one way or another.

Buuuuut at the same time, when I'm focused on something I can turn dead quiet. I'm very good at doing things by myself. I generally hate relying on other people. Sometimes this works against me as if I'm doing anything with other people, I'll end up doing everything.

Sometimes I'm quite shy. When I was a child I was really shy and quiet to the point my parents thought I was autistic. Turns out I have Tourettes, which interestingly is comorbid with autism. I get sensory overload sometimes and I need to withdraw from people and activity. Also I carried a lot of mental baggage as my earliest memories are me being told I was different from over kids, and consciously having to suppress my ticks so people don't think something was wrong with me. But I'm learning to let go and unlearn everything my brain was taught.

I can be very up and down. Sometimes I'm absolutely manic, and sometimes I seem really drained. There's been many times when I talked about my depressive tendencies on this forum.

It's interesting though because people usually have an idea that extroverts are social and introverts are shy. Extroversion and introversion is mainly the direction of your perception, not just how other people see you.
 

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I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.
100% THIS

To me having small talk with random people talking about the latest movie & sports event bores the shit out of me and drains me of all my energy.
However meeting with business oriented ambitious people is super motivating and energizing to me.
 

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To add to that: perhaps the introvert entrepreneurs are here on the forum whereas the extrovert entrepreneurs are out at business networking groups ;)
I do both.

I must be Divergent. :smile2:

Man, this hits the nail on the head.

My family says that I need to get out more and socialize. I find socializing with most people to be boring and unfulfilling as most people just talk about partying, things they hate about their job, or the latest episode of American Idol.

It seems like a lot of people have just given up on their dreams. At least with entrepreneurship, there's still a fire within someone to do big things or to go out and fulfill their dreams.
Same for me.

I am always looking to connect with groups of people with high entry barriers.

By entry barriers, I mean psychological (e.g. most people are too lazy to sacrifice Fridays to meet XXX people) and financial (e.g. pay cash for TFLF Insiders)

You can socialize a lot, but choose your folks. Go to events or groups heavily invested in business or any kind of fine arts or progressive activities. I went to a meetup a few days ago, where the host was discussing on him opening a wine club. So I learned something about wine and sample some unique liquor that made the local stuff taste saddening. I hardly heard much negative SCRIPTED crap there, even though they had quite a lot of newcomers that day.
 
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Still learning and testing. I generally wait a week or so before pings. After a while I start looking at other ways to get their attention.

I had good luck a couple of times with an image in the first DM. Grabs attention for just a moment, if the DM is opened.
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, the "week rule" seems to work.

That's interesting about the images. I have opposite experience because when somebody sends us an image it is always covered to protect us against "weird" content (d*ck picks and such), so I rarely open those. However, if the text message below the image sounds normal, it's a different case.
 
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I think its normal for go-getters to be more "Introverts" than Extroverts because they are spending most of their time reading, learning, practising and executing the stuff they learn.

We don't have time to go to the bar everyday after work, we don't have time to watch the NFL/NBA match, we don't have time to just kick sh*t & play PS3 while kicking back a few brewskies.

A lot of us are not putting in any time into social things - so obviously over time we become uncomfortable in those situations and inevitably we become introverts - I used to be an extrovert when I was younger, but once I DECIDED to commit to becoming successful (i.e I wanted success as much as a drowning man wants to breath air!) I slowly became an introvert - now I'm pretty much a loner that just enjoys my own company.
Thanks for sharing @100k What are your favorite outreach tactics/channels?

Good angle on the topic, however, I think you are talking more about making conscious decision to dedicate yourself to hard work and internal belief that such work will reap great benefits. Both types are capable of this.

Introvert vs Extrovert is more about what energizes you. If social activities drain your energy then you are an introvert and vice versa. If you are mostly learning by yourself, then you are an introvert and vice versa. Anyhow, it's just about understanding one-self and using it to improve ...
 
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Right? Isn't that what makes a successful business owner? Tossing every limitation you have out the window and aligning yourself with the emotional and physical/service needs of the customer.
Absolutely, but that wasn't the question :) What are your favorite outreach tactics/channels? = what channels you like to use the most and deliver the best results?
 
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I am an extreme introvert -- all quizzes give me the same "INTJ" personality type. Though I do like the company of other people, I just prefer to do my own things the way I like them, and I hate compromising.
Thanks for sharing! Yep, that sounds like an introvert. What are your favorite outreach tactics/channels?
 

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Im a bit of both, but with FU money I could definitely see myself locked up in a house far away from humans and just chilling out for months on end
 

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