I don't care about money

[minivanman]

I've never wanted money either but these people do.... electric company, cable company, internet company, grocery store, gas station and lots of others along this line and my world basically revolves around them so.... I gotta have money and I decided to get a LOT of it. Money doesn't give me love but it sure doesn't make me sad. I'm much happier when I can pay for my $10 piece of pie than stealing it.

 

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[Longinus]

I've tried multiple things in life already. Multiple studies, different jobs, different business start ups but I always end up; this is not going to make me happy.

I can't believe you "tried" multiple things at 23 yo. Probably just kicked some tires and gave up the moment it became challenging.

Based on your earlier postings and this, your problem isn't that you want to be "happy", you just want an easy road to success.

This is the answer to your question:

 

[biophase]

The only thing I care about is being happy, healthy, be loved and be a person to look up to.

I can't believe you "tried" multiple things at 23 yo. Probably just kicked some tires and gave up the moment it became challenging.

Based on your earlier postings and this, your problem isn't that you want to be "happy", you just want an easy road to success.

This is the answer to your question:

That quote reminds me of a sports saying when you lose a game.

Did you get beat or did you lose?

 

[Veloman]

I sort of understand why you say money is not the ultimate goal.

Personally, it comes down to ego. I want to help/improve society as much as possible. Why? So I feel better about myself. I hate feeling useless. A lot of this aligns with Fastlane. Thankfully money is closely equated to benefiting others. So for that end, sure, I want to be a billionaire.

Money and power -> affecting others positively -> benefits my ego.

I think it's a common pursuit. Why does anyone great do anything? Not because they want to feel like crap.

This why I can't stand the idea of retirement in the sense that you no longer provide or produce in some way. It really turned me off on the idea of working, saving enough money so that at some point I could sit around and do nothing of value. Disgusting.

Lately I've been in some ruts, and have tons of free time thanks to an income stream I've created. But if this is what the average person aims for, then let me tell you it's not that great. My dad just went back to working full time after retiring. Part time work was still not enough.

People need a purpose. I think Jordan Peterson talked about this.

 

[advantagecp]

I don't care about money.
I really don't.

The only thing I care about is being happy, healthy, be loved and be a person to look up to.
I know it's against the 'rules' of the Fastlane book 'do something you love/passionate about'.

If you don't care about money then live a few years flat a$$ broke. See how much shit you have to eat and then get back to us.

You come across as a privileged upper middle class kid who has never had any financial stress in your life. You never had to work for it so of course you don't care about it.

If you want to be happy then stop thinking about yourself and start doing things for others, then money starts to have meaning.

Your 'against the rules of Fastlane...' statement is bullshit, a straw man argument. You either didn't read the book or you didn't understand it.

 

[karakoram]

None of us "care" about money. It's just a bit of paper with green ink, or its some object everyone agrees has value (real estate, gold, bank account, etc ). What we truly CARE about is what that money represents: the ability to buy something we want or need, prestige, power, and most important to me: freedom.

First, consider what not having enough money means:
Many people on this planet die or lose a loved one because they don't have the money or freedom to get treatment for a disease/injury, or cannot get away from dangerous areas to live. Those people are not happy.

More money than you need may not make you happy, but a lack of money certainly WILL make you unhappy. You might want to talk to folks that went through bad times like me. My family was extremely unhappy when we did not have the money to pay living expenses.

Working at a job that you do not love (true entrepreneurs won't love any job that is not their own business) means a lack of freedom. This equals unhappiness. Just look at zoo predators (lions, tigers). They are fed regularly, so they never starve, but they pace nueorotically around their "habitat" (really, its just a fancy cage) because they are unhappy due to lack of freedom. Making your own money with your own business means freedom and happiness.

 

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[GMSI7D]

human psychology is more important than money

you can get whatever you want from people with human psychology

that's why copywriting is so effective.

you can make people give their money for so called " charity " or gurus to save the aliens on the moon or whatever BS. wich means you the guru get the money for free.

you can create a new religion or cult and have people give you their money, their lives ,

whatever


FOR FREE



let's get an example


today i reveived free food from the store because the store clerk told me to pay whenever i want later

i simply said that i had no money at the time in my pocket and i had to go back home to take the money

the guy expects me to pay the bills tomorrow, wich i will do because i am honest


but there is no contract or anything between us

this is just 100 % trust. i can also leave the town and never pay the bills

i hope you get the point about human psychology


.

 

[Get Right]

I don't care about money.
I really don't.

This is actually an unhealthy statement (I used to love to say that also). I would encourage you to dig deep into what "money" is. It's not "bad" or "unhappy" or generally negative in any way. I think you will find that it is actually quite nice. It means you helped somebody and that somebody thanked you. If nobody is thanking you then you aren't doing anything...and if you aren't doing anything than being "happy" is just a selfish indulgence.

 

[GMSI7D]

the problem with money is that we are playing the games with the rules that have been imposed on us

the current economic system ( wich is going to fail soon ) was imposed on us for bankers. for their own goals

not for your future


yes people won't believe me because of the biases of the brain : cognitive dissonance and so on

people are predictable


they are in fact irrational and predictable







so for you to understand the problem of playing with the rules of the bankers,

i have to show you things and metaphors


here is one


on this chessboard, you are black. the bankers are white

this is ckeckmate in a few moves because you play with the rules of the bankers

not yours

 

[The Abundant Man]

Money is a relatively new concept in terms of human history. It wasn't until a few thousand years ago that it replaced the bartering system.

Evolutionarily, since the hunter-gatherer days, it's always been about resources. What resources can you get? What resources can you find? What resources can you provide?

Money is just a means for....resources.

The Agricultural Revolution-We don't need to go Man vs Wild anymore. We can farm for food now. Who farms though? We can have a family and children that farms. Two people taking care of children instead of tribes?(Tribes used to take care of children together as a community instead of just two people)

The Industrial Revolution-We can build machines to build more machines to do things for us. We need to build cities for population growth.

The Information Revolution-??? Skynet/machines take over ???

Look at Natural Selection where nature is always competing against each other for adaptability and survivability. If you don't adapt you don't survive.

 

[LittleWolfie]

Just get stupid rich so you are free and can do whatever you want.

Might have misunderstood that then (English not main language).

Yes, I think you did. Sounds like your in the same position as me. My strategy is too fastlane too enough cash that I can live off the interest. Then I can do what I love 40 hours a week. Who cares if I lose money? Plenty of people spend lots of money on their hobbies.

It's funny that the only people who I hear say they don't want money, are the ones that don't have it. Could it be that its a psychological defence mechanism that people employ to protect their ego's? Or to help them come to terms with current environment, and their inability to see a path out of it?

Their are rich people who don't want money "more money more problems", they do want a certain lifestyle which implies a certain

Rent is not 600 minimum. You can live "anti-kraak", rent is less than 200, incl utilities. You can rent a room in a shared apartment, 350-500, including utilities.

Rent depends on where you live, if you can find one bedroom including util for <200 in London, I have a bridge to trade you for it.

Also I'm unfamiliar with your laws, however here contracts usally specify that when renting a room your not allowed to conduct any business (so you could lose your accomdation,if you share it's location) its a fairly standard clause. The house hack works way better,once you have the minimum income needed to rent the whole thing.

This is why a location independent method if generating wealth is powerful. You can move to where houses are 6000 a peice and invest that rent money in your fastlane gig.

Money is just a means for....resources.

This, I don't want money, I want certain goods and services (resources) now if I was able to barter for everything that I needed and wanted, then I would have no need of money whatsoever.

If we were all able to barter what we had for what we wanted all the time, nobody would need money at all.

However this is currently untrue, so we need money.

 

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[ruzara5]

HOW am I

Those that know why. Know how. Be internally happy while solving a problem. Scale. Serve a solution. Get some experience. Resolve to improve. Happiness in some instances is a multifaceted event. Get a job you hate. Work on something the solves a huge problem. Smile. Create a better process. Read unscripted.

 

[Jugg]

I don't care about money.
I really don't.

Suggestion: Stop thinking you "don't care about money" and worse, that you "really don't".

IMO you're looking at money like it's dirty and undesirable and yes, you don't need to "love" money but it just so happens that on this planet, meaningful projects that turn out successful usually result in money.

I work hard in my business because I want to make alot of money, yes, but I'm happy doing exactly that.

You can be happy, healthy, AND make alot of money at the same time.

 

[Almantas]

Happiness is a state of mindset.

You can be ridiculously rich and still feel sad all the time.

You can be ridiculously poor and still feel happy all the time.

It's up to you to decide how you wanna feel.

 

[srodrigo]

An approach I've used several times in the past was to admit that the only thing I knew for sure, was that I didn't like where I was now, and was unsure where to go next. Then I would select a path that followed three basic rules:

• It must lead to a different environment (different city/country, different social circle).
• It must be a path that breaks away from my former path (new industry, career, etc.).
• It has to be challenging (you can't grow unless you do things that you consider hard).

Note that this does not include determining what's possible, decide first, then look at what you can do to get there. Use common sense here, don't set completely unrealistic paths (fe: become a Olympic snowboarder, if you're over 20 and you've never seen snow before).

Once you've determined what you want to do, get creative about getting there. Be open to do uncomfortable things (get out of your comfort zone) to achieve them.

This is probably one of the best quotes I've read in this forum. Awesome advice!

 

[Supercar]

Just get stupid rich so you are free and can do whatever you want.

"More money will make you more of what you already are.
If you are unhappy, you will be miserable." - Jim Rohn.

 

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[Jesse Dallenbach]

The only piece of advice I can offer in regards to getting started is to first change the "square feet" that surround you and move outwards.

If you must change/improve choose things that you have control over first.

 

[Raoul Duke]

#bancapitialism.

I vote for hugs instead of money. Who is with me?

Let us come together, and start a HUG movement.

 

[Bryan James]

Don't care about money? Feel free to wire me some of yours!

 

[LittleWolfie]

That quote reminds me of a sports saying when you lose a game.

Did you get beat or did you lose?

I like that, I get beat at sports all the time, basically whenever I play. I'm fine with that, because the only reason for me to play a sport is to be with the person in playing the sport with.

 

[LittleWolfie]

to live in The Netherlands ($600 minimum rent only).

Stop thinking in problems. Start thinking in solutions. Rent is not 600 minimum. You can live "anti-kraak", rent is less than 200, incl utilities. You can rent a room in a shared apartment, 350-500, including utilities. Or get a part time job paying minimum wage, then 600 is easily achievable.

EDIT, bonus option: house hack!
Rent an apartment with at least 2 bedrooms in a reasonable area in a big city and Airbnb the bedrooms. Did that for a few years, paid for my rent + utilities..

OP is in netherlands , so needs to pay 5.5% tourist tax, get VVE approvement, if he airbnbs for more than 60 days then it's an illegal hotel and the gov has been shutting them down. Is that 60 days minus taxes going to be enough to cover utilits? Sure it could be part of the solution, or maybe there is a better option for the OP.

This is why we need to look at country-specific hacks.

 

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[jpn]

@LittleWolfie

Don’t jump to conclusions and don’t talk about things you don’t know anything about.

I live in NL too, and most of those rules only apply to Amsterdam. Only Amsterdam has 60 days. And I think the 60 days only applies if you rent out your whole apartment. Not a room in your apartment. And tourist tax is set per municipality.

You don’t need vve approval if you don’t have a vve (do you even know what a vve is? Or are you just copy-pasting stuff you found after a 30s google search?). Secondly you don’t need vve approval if you only rent out bedrooms instead of the whole place. I read the laws and outcomes of the legal cases regarding this in NL. Did you?

And finally in most places, except Amsterdam, enforcement of the rules is non-existent. And the potential fines are smaller than the upside, so a smart risk.

I’ve done this for several years and it paid for my house, utilities, cleaner and a few holidays. Partly because of my jumps in income from the fastlane I nearly have my house paid off. I’m only stopping (literally have the last guest checking out today) because my time has become worth more than the 200/hour I’m making off Airbnb.

Main point of my comment was to help OP think in solutions. Not in problems. Seems you suffer from a similar affliction. I actually had to unignore you in order to correct you. Hope you haven’t shared more inexperienced nonsense on this board without being corrected.

 

[LittleWolfie]

Given @jpn repsonse it seems I have badly phrased my post and lead to misunderstanding . I am endeavouring here to clarify my original point, rather than get drawn into an argument.

@LittleWolfie

Main point of my comment was to help @LarsJelle think in solutions.

So was mine, my point was that jurisdictions vary and that @LarsJelle should consider that rather than blithely copy anything online. I have to admit I made the mistake of misreading JPN's location. However Dutch expericne may well be more relevant to @LarsJelle than any foreign one.

Also sometimes relocation can be a solution, something that @LarsJelle may want to consider.

You have yet to correct me. By all means, anyone point me to the correct information.

I read the laws and outcomes of the legal cases regarding this in NL. Did you?

Actually, I asked a lawyer with experience in the local sector. Do I have a claim for bad advice against the lawyer? Although to be fair it was a Amsterdam specialist and the rules may have changed since then.

Do you even know what a vve is? Or are you just copy-pasting stuff you found after a 30s google search?

I have no idea, I left that to legal professionals and am sharing what they told me. You may be one or may have choosen to avoid lawyers, @larsjeel can make their own choice.

You don’t need vve approval if you don’t have a vve (do you even know what a vve is? Or are you just copy-pasting stuff you found after a 30s google search?

Really? Now I'm wondering if I should be taking this up with the regulators, sounds like the lawyer lied to me. I have to admit to minimal understanding of the vve. It's impossible for you to both be right with mutually conflicting positions. So anybody please let me know if you have more detail, maybe I ca get my money back.

And finally in most places, except Amsterdam, enforcement of the rules is non-existent

Ah well, we can both be right in that it is illegal and you do it anyway. That's down to the individual's risk.

Seems you suffer from a similar affliction

I've detailed my afflictions, although you will have missed them if you are ignoring me. I'm unable to tell what the afflictions of the original poster, are so until they tell me, I will reserve judgement om if they are similar. I do think myself and larsjelle may have similar thoughts,

Hope you haven’t shared more inexperienced nonsense on this board without being corrected

Nonsense, maybe . However I have shared my experiences, they are of course different to yours and the other forum members and that's my point.

 

[Hai]

A good way to find your strengths and flow is to find your enneagram type and get familiar with it. It helps you find a niche that fits well to you so you can be happier doing the job.

 

[chevenix]

"I don't care about money"
Same stupid words I've said when I was at your age.