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I don't care about money

Discussion in 'General Mindset, Motivation, Beliefs' started by LarsJelle, Oct 6, 2018.

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    you were born at the right time

    after WW2

    this is the best period of the 500 past years

    wealth, happyness, sleeping with everybody in 1968, and so on

    so people think that this situation will stay for ever. the jackpot, the good life is here to stay

    really ??

    hmmmmm.......



    what really is the skill to develop for the future ? making money ?


    making money is just one way to get ressources. there are other ways


    for example , in this situation ( titanic movie ) , is using money the right way to get that damn lifeboat ?

    tit.jpg




    hhmmmmm....


    NO . this is not the right way . AT ALL



    but knowing human psychology and persuasion ( or manipulation ) is the right way here



    hard times are at the doors

    what will save you ?


    money ? or intelligence and skills ?



    hmmmm.......

     
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    Here's a long quote from The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand that might help you. It changed my outlook and belief. Basically it says that every human being ought to be what Scripted society called an 'a$$hole.'

    "If any man stopped and asked himself whether he's ever held a truly personal desire, he'd find the answer.

    He'd see that all his wishes, his efforts, his dreams, his ambitions are motivated by other men.

    He's not really struggling even for material wealth, but for the second-handers delusion—prestige. A stamp of approval, not his own.
    He can find no joy in the struggle and no joy when he has succeeded.
    He can't say about a single thing: '

    This is what I wanted because I wanted it, not because it made my neighbors gape at me.'

    Then he wonders why he's unhappy."
     
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    Just be you.
     
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    I would go further to say that happiness is a temporary feeling and no one feels happy 24/7. I would not have that expectation. You shouldn't be happy when someone close to you dies, or when you're stuck in a job you hate, or when your'e diagnosed with cancer.

    However, you can be at peace with yourself, no matter your external circumstances. And from that point of peace, you can steer your life towards more of those "happy" moments, whatever they are.
     
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    So, you're still a child. Adults pay their own rent, eat their own food and pay their own bills. It's easy to downplay the role of money when someone is taking care of you. Get out and try to make it on your own before you spend your time on this happiness quest.
     
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    I've never wanted money either but these people do.... electric company, cable company, internet company, grocery store, gas station and lots of others along this line and my world basically revolves around them so.... I gotta have money and I decided to get a LOT of it. Money doesn't give me love but it sure doesn't make me sad. I'm much happier when I can pay for my $10 piece of pie than stealing it.
     
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    I can't believe you "tried" multiple things at 23 yo. Probably just kicked some tires and gave up the moment it became challenging.

    Based on your earlier postings and this, your problem isn't that you want to be "happy", you just want an easy road to success.

    This is the answer to your question:

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    That quote reminds me of a sports saying when you lose a game.

    Did you get beat or did you lose?
     
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    I sort of understand why you say money is not the ultimate goal.

    Personally, it comes down to ego. I want to help/improve society as much as possible. Why? So I feel better about myself. I hate feeling useless. A lot of this aligns with Fastlane. Thankfully money is closely equated to benefiting others. So for that end, sure, I want to be a billionaire.

    Money and power -> affecting others positively -> benefits my ego.

    I think it's a common pursuit. Why does anyone great do anything? Not because they want to feel like crap.

    This why I can't stand the idea of retirement in the sense that you no longer provide or produce in some way. It really turned me off on the idea of working, saving enough money so that at some point I could sit around and do nothing of value. Disgusting.

    Lately I've been in some ruts, and have tons of free time thanks to an income stream I've created. But if this is what the average person aims for, then let me tell you it's not that great. My dad just went back to working full time after retiring. Part time work was still not enough.

    People need a purpose. I think Jordan Peterson talked about this.
     
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    If you don't care about money then live a few years flat a$$ broke. See how much sh*t you have to eat and then get back to us.

    You come across as a privileged upper middle class kid who has never had any financial stress in your life. You never had to work for it so of course you don't care about it.

    If you want to be happy then stop thinking about yourself and start doing things for others, then money starts to have meaning.

    Your 'against the rules of Fastlane...' statement is bullshit, a straw man argument. You either didn't read the book or you didn't understand it.
     
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    None of us "care" about money. It's just a bit of paper with green ink, or its some object everyone agrees has value (real estate, gold, bank account, etc ). What we truly CARE about is what that money represents: the ability to buy something we want or need, prestige, power, and most important to me: freedom.

    First, consider what not having enough money means:
    Many people on this planet die or lose a loved one because they don't have the money or freedom to get treatment for a disease/injury, or cannot get away from dangerous areas to live. Those people are not happy.

    More money than you need may not make you happy, but a lack of money certainly WILL make you unhappy. You might want to talk to folks that went through bad times like me. My family was extremely unhappy when we did not have the money to pay living expenses.

    Working at a job that you do not love (true entrepreneurs won't love any job that is not their own business) means a lack of freedom. This equals unhappiness. Just look at zoo predators (lions, tigers). They are fed regularly, so they never starve, but they pace nueorotically around their "habitat" (really, its just a fancy cage) because they are unhappy due to lack of freedom. Making your own money with your own business means freedom and happiness.
     
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    human psychology is more important than money

    you can get whatever you want from people with human psychology


    that's why copywriting is so effective.

    you can make people give their money for so called " charity " or gurus to save the aliens on the moon or whatever BS. wich means you the guru get the money for free.

    you can create a new religion or cult and have people give you their money, their lives ,

    whatever


    FOR FREE




    let's get an example


    today i reveived free food from the store because the store clerk told me to pay whenever i want later

    i simply said that i had no money at the time in my pocket and i had to go back home to take the money

    the guy expects me to pay the bills tomorrow, wich i will do because i am honest


    but there is no contract or anything between us

    this is just 100 % trust. i can also leave the town and never pay the bills

    i hope you get the point about human psychology


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    This is actually an unhealthy statement (I used to love to say that also). I would encourage you to dig deep into what "money" is. It's not "bad" or "unhappy" or generally negative in any way. I think you will find that it is actually quite nice. It means you helped somebody and that somebody thanked you. If nobody is thanking you then you aren't doing anything...and if you aren't doing anything than being "happy" is just a selfish indulgence.
     
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    the problem with money is that we are playing the games with the rules that have been imposed on us

    the current economic system ( wich is going to fail soon ) was imposed on us for bankers. for their own goals

    not for your future


    yes people won't believe me because of the biases of the brain : cognitive dissonance and so on

    people are predictable


    they are in fact irrational and predictable



    pre.jpg



    so for you to understand the problem of playing with the rules of the bankers,

    i have to show you things and metaphors



    here is one


    on this chessboard, you are black. the bankers are white

    this is ckeckmate in a few moves because you play with the rules of the bankers

    not yours



    rule.png
     
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    Money is a relatively new concept in terms of human history. It wasn't until a few thousand years ago that it replaced the bartering system.

    Evolutionarily, since the hunter-gatherer days, it's always been about resources. What resources can you get? What resources can you find? What resources can you provide?

    Money is just a means for....resources.

    The Agricultural Revolution-We don't need to go Man vs Wild anymore. We can farm for food now. Who farms though? We can have a family and children that farms. Two people taking care of children instead of tribes?(Tribes used to take care of children together as a community instead of just two people)

    The Industrial Revolution-We can build machines to build more machines to do things for us. We need to build cities for population growth.

    The Information Revolution-??? Skynet/machines take over ???

    Look at Natural Selection where nature is always competing against each other for adaptability and survivability. If you don't adapt you don't survive.
     
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    Yes, I think you did. Sounds like your in the same position as me. My strategy is too fastlane too enough cash that I can live off the interest. Then I can do what I love 40 hours a week. Who cares if I lose money? Plenty of people spend lots of money on their hobbies.

    Their are rich people who don't want money "more money more problems", they do want a certain lifestyle which implies a certain

    Rent depends on where you live, if you can find one bedroom including util for <200 in London, I have a bridge to trade you for it.

    Also I'm unfamiliar with your laws, however here contracts usally specify that when renting a room your not allowed to conduct any business (so you could lose your accomdation,if you share it's location) its a fairly standard clause. The house hack works way better,once you have the minimum income needed to rent the whole thing.

    This is why a location independent method if generating wealth is powerful. You can move to where houses are 6000 a peice and invest that rent money in your fastlane gig.

    This, I don't want money, I want certain goods and services (resources) now if I was able to barter for everything that I needed and wanted, then I would have no need of money whatsoever.

    If we were all able to barter what we had for what we wanted all the time, nobody would need money at all.

    However this is currently untrue, so we need money.
     
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    Those that know why. Know how. Be internally happy while solving a problem. Scale. Serve a solution. Get some experience. Resolve to improve. Happiness in some instances is a multifaceted event. Get a job you hate. Work on something the solves a huge problem. Smile.:cool: Create a better process. Read unscripted.:smile2::thumbsup:
     
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    Suggestion: Stop thinking you "don't care about money" and worse, that you "really don't".

    IMO you're looking at money like it's dirty and undesirable and yes, you don't need to "love" money but it just so happens that on this planet, meaningful projects that turn out successful usually result in money.

    I work hard in my business because I want to make alot of money, yes, but I'm happy doing exactly that.

    You can be happy, healthy, AND make alot of money at the same time.
     
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    Happiness is a state of mindset.

    You can be ridiculously rich and still feel sad all the time.

    You can be ridiculously poor and still feel happy all the time.

    It's up to you to decide how you wanna feel.
     
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    This is probably one of the best quotes I've read in this forum. Awesome advice!
     
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    "More money will make you more of what you already are.
    If you are unhappy, you will be miserable." - Jim Rohn.
     
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    The only piece of advice I can offer in regards to getting started is to first change the "square feet" that surround you and move outwards.

    If you must change/improve choose things that you have control over first.
     
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    #bancapitialism.

    I vote for hugs instead of money. Who is with me?

    Let us come together, and start a HUG movement.
     
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    Don't care about money? Feel free to wire me some of yours!
     
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    I like that, I get beat at sports all the time, basically whenever I play. I'm fine with that, because the only reason for me to play a sport is to be with the person in playing the sport with.
     

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