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Are you suggesting that one should NOT respect the hustle?

I respect all hustles, no judgement from my side. Just pointing to the voices in that thread saying that adult work is basically the same as human trafficking and exploitation of poor girls who had no other choice.
 

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I respect all hustles, no judgement from my side. Just pointing to the voices in that thread saying that adult work is basically the same as human trafficking and exploitation of poor girls who had no other choice.
Ahh, because I looked on there, and it's a bunch of people bible thumping that have since been deleted.

In contrast, @BaraQueenbee has explained that she has been actively carving her own slice of the broader niche. And regardless of the specific niche that she's in, it's a great example of how she's providing value to her targeted audience.
 
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Ok, this thread got weird real fast.
I initially thought Bara was joking about the dominatrix and sex work thing, but it appears to be real.

I need to dig out her old threads to see her history and first few posts, because although I joined later than Scot, I too have never even heard any mention of this member. In the old mythical threads, there were mentions of people like ZenD****** and Jack Ed***** but never Bara.

Meanwhile, what I'm curious is, how will @BaraQueenbee scale her business/job? Or are you already running a network with several dozens of girls under you?

I gotta go back to 2015 to read it all......
 

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This stuff fascinates the hell out of me. For the life of me, I can't understand why prostitution is illegal. If I am a plumber, it's legal for me to use my hands / skills to give you the bathroom of your dreams. Not because you need it but because you want it and it makes you feel good. Why on earth can someone willingly decide to make another feel good and charge for it and it be wrong? If both parties are consenting and agree on a price (value), how is that different than a plumber? It's our own body, we should be able to responsibly choose how we want to use it. No government needed.
 

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For the life of me, I can't understand why prostitution is illegal.

Just look to the puritanical roots of our country. That explains it all, including, but not limited to, why in some states you still can't buy alcohol on a Sunday.


Funny how adult workers are suddenly respected on the forum because an old forum member identified as one.

Fortunately, like many things in life, this forum has evolved for the better. The admins work hard at making sure that ALL feel welcomed here. It's not an easy job considering that a great deal of prejudice runs deep & often on a subconscious level. I've personally seen members of this forum set unfounded & close-minded prejudices aside & begin to think for themselves. It's refreshing. And appreciated.
 
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Just look to the puritanical roots of our country. That explains it all, including, but not limited to, why in some states you still can't buy alcohol on a Sunday.
I'm not following. Care to expand?
 

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I do not know the whole context, however, men that are embarrassing to some women will be life-changing to others. Also, I am a bit disappointed that Brad violated the commandment of adding value.
 

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What the F*ck are you going on about? This just seems like a narcissistic self-plug. I literally got 0% value from this. If a dude is trying to offer you a business deal, just ASK him for the F*cking credentials.
 
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What the F*ck are you going on about? This just seems like a narcissistic self-plug. I literally got 0% value from this. If a dude is trying to offer you a business deal, just ASK him for the F*cking credentials.
Before you get a virtual a$$ whooping, perhaps you should read the entire first page of the thread and edit your post.

Or don't. The latter will be much more entertaining for the rest of us.
 

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This stuff fascinates the hell out of me. For the life of me, I can't understand why prostitution is illegal. If I am a plumber, it's legal for me to use my hands / skills to give you the bathroom of your dreams. Not because you need it but because you want it and it makes you feel good. Why on earth can someone willingly decide to make another feel good and charge for it and it be wrong? If both parties are consenting and agree on a price (value), how is that different than a plumber? It's our own body, we should be able to responsibly choose how we want to use it. No government needed.

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This stuff fascinates the hell out of me. For the life of me, I can't understand why prostitution is illegal. If I am a plumber, it's legal for me to use my hands / skills to give you the bathroom of your dreams. Not because you need it but because you want it and it makes you feel good. Why on earth can someone willingly decide to make another feel good and charge for it and it be wrong?

Because plumbing doesn't go against god.

(Their words, not mine, I'm atheist.)
 

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What the F*ck are you going on about? This just seems like a narcissistic self-plug. I literally got 0% value from this. If a dude is trying to offer you a business deal, just ASK him for the F*cking credentials.

Everyone, lets just take this whole thread down. Some Jon didn't get no value from it.

P.s. Your entitlement is showing and it stinksssss. Ew
 
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Ok, this thread got weird real fast.
I initially thought Bara was joking about the dominatrix and sex work thing, but it appears to be real.

I need to dig out her old threads to see her history and first few posts, because although I joined later than Scot, I too have never even heard any mention of this member. In the old mythical threads, there were mentions of people like ZenD****** and Jack Ed***** but never Bara.

Meanwhile, what I'm curious is, how will @BaraQueenbee scale her business/job? Or are you already running a network with several dozens of girls under you?

I gotta go back to 2015 to read it all......

Not sure why these professions would be considered "weird".
Unconventional? Sure.
If you have any questions, hollaaaaa at me
My old threads don't talk about scaling my business. Also I am by farrrrrr NOT anyone that deserves a mythical thread and mention.

But to answer your question:
The only way one could create any passive income, is kind of what my colleague Harley does. Short books. Audio's. Products. And clips.
I'm good on the clips and audio side. I film once a month, edit for a few days, upload it spread out. And Don't have to look back at it for a whole month.
Social Media presence is what takes the most time.
Currently my "slaves"/clients can talk to me on the phone at 2.99 per minute, on some days going all up to 20.00 dollar a minute.
Building up towards the 30/50 dollar a minute range.

Working towards some properties now, so the income will not be "my industry" related... or maybe it will.. who knows
 
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I respect all hustles, no judgement from my side. Just pointing to the voices in that thread saying that adult work is basically the same as human trafficking and exploitation of poor girls who had no other choice.

I went into the post you linked to.

If you don't mind, I'd like to give my own 2 cents on the matter.

For one, there is a very active whore-archy (as we call it) within anything sex related, society made this.
Being a dominatrix and NOT involving ANY sex kind of appeals to people in an ironic way. Outside of that I am literally my own legal business.

Porn websites, often work with PIRATED content and make money off of that. I don't have to explain how wrong that is.
I won't go too much into the moral on these, because politically it can go down south real fast.
But I can short it up this was:
I am for porn/sex work, I am AGAINST the porn industry.
The industry being led by some very big names, preying on girls. And TOO YOUNG girls that is too.

If you are interested in the nasty side of it (you'll look differently at porn forever), let me know. I can link enough documentaries.
Porn industry is a bulk creator and I find it very problematic that they prey on young girls. Which goes into another layer of problem, because young girls sell.

I feel there is a small shift this decade, where women work independently and as a business.
This requires some self-awareness (as running any business does) as well as a complete different "responsibility" aspect. One will have to work with people who feel "good" and safe, rather than what the porn'contract provides them with.
Cam girls being on top of that, since they do it in their own environment, no "dangerous" external factors, etc.

So I understand why that topic went "somewhat" south.

Moderators if this reply gets too political, please delete of course <3
 
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I went into the post you linked to.

If you don't mind, I'd like to give my own 2 cents on the matter.

For one, there is a very active whore-archy (as we call it) within anything sex related, society made this.
Being a dominatrix and NOT involving ANY sex kind of appeals to people in an ironic way. Outside of that I am literally my own legal business.

Porn websites, often work with PIRATED content and make money off of that. I don't have to explain how wrong that is.
I won't go too much into the moral on these, because politically it can go down south real fast.
But I can short it up this was:
I am for porn/sex work, I am AGAINST the porn industry.
The industry being led by some very big names, praying on girls. And TOO YOUNG girls that is too.

If you are interested in the nasty side of it (you'll look differently at porn forever), let me know. I can link enough documentaries.
Porn industry is a bulk creator and I find i very problematic that they prey on young girls. Which goes into another layer of problem, because young girls sell.

I feel there is a small shift this decade, where women work independently and as a business.
This requires some self-awareness (as running any business does) as well as a complete different "responsibility" aspect. One will have to work with people who feel "good" and safe, rather than what the porn'contract provides them with.
Cam girls being on top of that, since they do it in their own environment, no "dangerous" external factors, etc.

So I understand why that topic went "somewhat" south.

Moderators if this reply gets too political, please delete of course <3
I'm not into that industry, but it really interests me A LOT.

You are right in the sense that many of the folks here are missing the point.
IMO, I think many of the dynamics are compatible with the acting and modelling industry.

Some of the folks from the porn industry, when they get older, do transition into the former two fields.
And do well in them with the skills they roped in.

And yes, a greater deal of awareness for the ladies to run their own business in any field is a much needed cause. Might be an opportunity for a consultancy in that area.
 

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The value exchange is problematic and tiresome. “You provide the content, you provide the name, I will throw it on the web and I will take 60%.”

I used to receive offers like these all the time until I shut them down completely. Vampires that feast off your blood and sell it like it’s a benefit to you. In the world of entrepreneurship, it’s typically newbies that have an idea and want to take other celebrity along for the ride. If what he offered her was a 90% to her, 10% to him the response might have been marginally different. She doesn’t need him, but his big idea fails without her.

This. Exactly. It's like he was thinking she was some dumb bunny who would be happy to make anything.

"Brad" got off lightly, and I hope he learned something.
 
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I open my messages and I see "Brad" has started a conversation with me and it sounds something like this (I am rarely friendly with strangers like this, but its method was so clear. Let's call it amusement)

Add: this is the adult industry we are speaking about, to give it the right context.
Mercedes (Me) being a full functioning and established adult-worker.

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Brad: Hey Mercedes, you seem to be a huge influence and big name in your industry, I want to pass this amazing opportunity and idea by you, that is of great value! And I think it can hugely benefit you too!

Me: So what have you been reading? Rich Dad Poor Dad? 4-hour Workweek? Or Millionaire Fastlane ? I hope it's not the latter, because then you have TRULY misunderstood its message.
So, what is this AMAZING idea you speak off?

Brad: Oh yes! It was Millionaire Fastlane , how did you know? And I want to start a website that sells online content by successful women like yourself, the cut would be 60 for me, 40 for you.

Me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And how did you bypass Sesta/Fosta?

Brad: What is that? I'm sure I can bypass anything

At this moment I block Brad, because now it's becoming annoying.

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TLTR:
Hi exciting newbie! I know you feel you are running out of time, and I know there is good in you and you can't wait to get started in life. This is a great mindset!

However, I as a business owner, do not:

1. care for what you"want to start". Show me your credentials and receipts and we can talk.
2. know why you think it be ok to make money of an industry that is established, and you don't have anything to ADD to, rather than exploiting the BUSINESS OWNERS within this industry.
3. appreciate you creating a bad name for the Millionaire Fastlane . The community (and book for that matter) are VERY clear on creating meaningful connections and adding value. Truly learning and understanding the product or industry you plan on invating.
4. like to deal with puppies who want to bark with the established people. This is not about discouraging anyone from following dreams and pursue steps. This is about clearly being delusional and ignorant, and it shows. It shows big time.
By showing that you are making a huge negative first impression.

I suggest to those who are in such a rush to read the book again, transforming that in some real life experience (rather than second hand knowledge which shows you have no clue about), and then get back at it.

P.s. when you actually verbalize the fact that you have "learned" this from Millionaire Fastlane , you actually give the whole movement and book a bad name. Don't be that guy

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This is a genuine question from someone with virtually no experience running a business; what would a better intro have looked like? I see the errors he made, but I'm wondering what, from your perspective, would be an appropriate entrance to the convo?
 
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This is a genuine question from someone with virtually no experience running a business; what would a better intro have looked like? I see the errors he made, but I'm wondering what, from your perspective, would be an appropriate entrance to the convo?

Someone already made/wrote an example of what would be much better. I think it's one page back.

Also be sure to check out Vigilante's replies in these posts. He sums it up PERFECTLY.
 

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"look Im so strong because Im and independent woman 11!!"

btw OP, check "hot crazy matrix"
It perfectly suits you
 

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"look Im so strong because Im and independent woman 11!!"

btw OP, check "hot crazy matrix"
It perfectly suits you

Sorry, I don't have my coloring book translation machine with me.
So try again in adult big human words. You can do it.
 

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Sorry, I don't have my coloring book translation machine with me.
So try again in adult big human words. You can do it.

you try sooo hard to be tough........

average entrepreneur responding to an average entrepreneur
Chick, you are not a biz star
 
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you try sooo hard to be tough........

average entrepreneur responding to an average entrepreneur
Chick, you are not a biz star

So after 18 posts and joining in 2015, you have 3 likes and a thread in the landfill, who can take you seriously lol.
 

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