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I open my messages and I see "Brad" has started a conversation with me and it sounds something like this (I am rarely friendly with strangers like this, but its method was so clear. Let's call it amusement)

Add: this is the adult industry we are speaking about, to give it the right context.
Mercedes (Me) being a full functioning and established adult-worker.

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Brad: Hey Mercedes, you seem to be a huge influence and big name in your industry, I want to pass this amazing opportunity and idea by you, that is of great value! And I think it can hugely benefit you too!

Me: So what have you been reading? Rich Dad Poor Dad? 4-hour Workweek? Or Millionaire Fastlane? I hope it's not the latter, because then you have TRULY misunderstood its message.
So, what is this AMAZING idea you speak off?

Brad: Oh yes! It was Millionaire Fastlane, how did you know? And I want to start a website that sells online content by successful women like yourself, the cut would be 60 for me, 40 for you.

Me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And how did you bypass Sesta/Fosta?

Brad: What is that? I'm sure I can bypass anything

At this moment I block Brad, because now it's becoming annoying.

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TLTR:
Hi exciting newbie! I know you feel you are running out of time, and I know there is good in you and you can't wait to get started in life. This is a great mindset!

However, I as a business owner, do not:

1. care for what you"want to start". Show me your credentials and receipts and we can talk.
2. know why you think it be ok to make money of an industry that is established, and you don't have anything to ADD to, rather than exploiting the BUSINESS OWNERS within this industry.
3. appreciate you creating a bad name for the Millionaire Fastlane. The community (and book for that matter) are VERY clear on creating meaningful connections and adding value. Truly learning and understanding the product or industry you plan on invating.
4. like to deal with puppies who want to bark with the established people. This is not about discouraging anyone from following dreams and pursue steps. This is about clearly being delusional and ignorant, and it shows. It shows big time.
By showing that you are making a huge negative first impression.

I suggest to those who are in such a rush to read the book again, transforming that in some real life experience (rather than second hand knowledge which shows you have no clue about), and then get back at it.

P.s. when you actually verbalize the fact that you have "learned" this from Millionaire Fastlane, you actually give the whole movement and book a bad name. Don't be that guy

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She is a Dutch Woman. They all speak their mind and quite straight to the point. I've learned from the Dutch, American's beat around the bush, don't get to the point, and game play. The Dutch I've met are usually clear, concise, and get their point across and don't like wasting their time.
 
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With all respect who are you and what do you do?
Professional Dominatrix, specialized in certain niches (virtually). (10 years and going strong)

In my daily life I volunteer at Rescue Shelter for women, as well as being loud (politically involved) and online about certain -isms in the world.
As well as tried to create an helpful app and miserably failing several times, at that.
Re-route time!

I love people who have the entrepreneurial mindset, and I wish we will grow as a group.
However I have a huge dislike for the "get rich overnight"-generation who thinks they are following the steps handed to them (like in the book) and somehow feel they are special and can bypass/quick-route the work, and clearly lacking the self-knowledge to realize where they stand in life or what character they have.


She is a Dutch Woman. They all speak their mind and quite straight to the point. I've learned from the Dutch, American's beat around the bush, don't get to the point, and game play. The Dutch I've met are usually clear, concise, and get their point across and don't like wasting their time.
Agree with this! Being born and raised in East Europe, also have lived in the US, and now here in the Netherlands, you can really see the differences in communication. I am well aware this is speaking in generalizations, of course they come from a truth.

Americans: Well, you could go there, and maybe take a left. Yes. I think you should take a left. At this one place, that really feels nice. It as all these colors, and yeah. Maybe take a left. You'll love it there. Then after you keep going straight, enjoy the scenery and the nice weather, etc etc.

Dutch: Take a first left then straight on, second right.

:eek::):rofl:
 
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Okay...? Just another value leecher. Not sure what your point is.

To laugh at the poor guy who is trying to take action?
Clearly you are having a hard time understanding little big boy, but let me summon it up mega short:

-UNDERSTAND the actual industry you PLAN on creating a business in. If you are not aware of the BIGGEST most influential LAW changes that have affect on it, then you make yourself out to be a joke.
-ADD VALUE to the people, rather than thinking how they can make money for YOU
-BUILD actual connections that are mutually beneficial. (which you can not if you see the other person in potential dollar signs
-Take action instead of mentally jerking off to the idea of action and talking about all the big plans you have

Need a cray on explanation with it too?

Post scriptum: WHY is this guy a "poor" guy actually?
 

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With all respect who are you and what do you do?
That doesn’t matter. Read for content. Let credential come from wisdom, not resume.
 

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Okay...? Just another value leecher. Not sure what your point is.

To laugh at the poor guy who is trying to take action?
You stopped toe curlin' in the hot tub cuz you heard sperms stay alive in there and you've seen Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles enough time to know how that story ends.
 

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Clearly you are having a hard time understanding little big boy, but let me summon it up mega short:

-UNDERSTAND the actual industry you PLAN on creating a business in. If you are not aware of the BIGGEST most influential LAW changes that have affect on it, then you make yourself out to be a joke.
-ADD VALUE to the people, rather than thinking how they can make money for YOU
-BUILD actual connections that are mutually beneficial. (which you can not if you see the other person in potential dollar signs
-Take action instead of mentally jerking off to the idea of action and talking about all the big plans you have

Need a cray on explanation with it too?

Post scriptum: WHY is this guy a "poor" guy actually?
Lol. Resorting to name calling. :)

I'm not criticizing your message.

I am criticizing the manner in which you presented it and maybe I didn't make that clear.

How to EMBARRASS yourself — Don't be this guy
Me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And how did you bypass Sesta/Fosta
Like to deal with puppies who want to bark with the established people.
I don't respect your attitude. I get that you're trying to get a point across, but you are trying to "expose" him on this forum, embarrass him, and laugh at him, seemingly because you are an "established [person]."

You could have just as easily have come in with an attitude of sharing your knowledge and this anecdotal experience while leaving behind all that BS.

He's a "poor guy" because clearly he didn't understand TMF after reading it.
 
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Not here to be liked by you.

You could have just scrolled along, 100.0000 threads to find value.
But somehow you found it necessary to come in on a post JUST to state that you don't respect My attitude.

That's some wild entitlement. Love it.

But thanks for telling me. I won't change it <3
 

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Not here to be liked by you.

You could have just scrolled along, 100.0000 threads to find value.
But somehow you found it necessary to come in on a post JUST to state that you don't respect My attitude.

That's some wild entitlement. Love it.

But thanks for telling me. I won't change it <3
I didn't finish my post. Please read again now that I've added.

You can have whatever attitude you want. I am going to point out toxic attitudes and people on this forum when I see it though.
 
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You could have just as easily have come in with an attitude of sharing your knowledge and this anecdotal experience while leaving behind all that BS.
Unless one PAYS me (in hard or other abstract currency/energy exchange) I don't have to anything.
The barking puppies come along every day and it is annoying as f*ck.

As to the exposing: believe me if I would, I would have actually added his member name.
Right now it's "just" a Brad (which isn't his real name). And Brad represents puppies.

Last but least: it's a RANT. Not a "Please people this is my story, let me sugarcoat and coddle everyone so no ones gets offended".


You can have whatever attitude you want. I am going to point out toxic attitudes and people on this forum when I see it though
Don't know who made you in charge of this noble cause. If that is your goal, you might want to change your own approach.
 

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Unless one PAYS me (in hard or other abstract currency/energy exchange) I don't have to anything.
The barking puppies come along every day and it is annoying as F*ck.

As to the exposing: believe me if I would, I would have actually added his member name.
Right now it's "just" a Brad (which isn't his real name). And Brad represents puppies.

Last but least: it's a RANT. Not a "Please people this is my story, let me sugarcoat and coddle everyone so no ones gets offended".
I get that you're angry. I would be too. :)

But if you're trying to actually make change and teach people not to do what "Brad" did, going about it in a pissy way is counterproductive. It undermines your message.

And if you aren't trying to actually provide value and help people ("it's a RANT"), then you're just complaining, which is no better than the value-leeching "Brad."

Don't know who made you in charge of this noble cause. If that is your goal, you might want to change your own approach.
Nobody made me in charge. You are doing what I am doing: pointing out actions or attitudes of people you don't like.

In your case it is "barking puppies," in my case it is unwarranted, unproductive negativity for the sake of propping oneself up.
 

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Newbies PM me all the time. And if I can help them steer towards the right path, I do.

I’m not sure what Brad did besides have a half assed boiler plate email..
 
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Let's keep it at a cultural difference.

You. The american who claims people ONLY learn from sugarcoated silk gloves weared-messaged.

Me. East European, who has lived in the west too, and has learned that it doesn't matter how you bring your message, people will listen or not, depending on where they stand in life. And the russian-method "teacher" don't get their time wasted either.

Outside being annoyed by puppies, I am not mad.
Nothing but love here.
 
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Newbies PM me all the time. And if I can help them steer towards the right path, I do.

I’m not sure what Brad did besides have a half assed boiler plate email..
I think those are really lucky then, for you to help them!

Like I mentioned in my previous reply, I love entrepreneurial mindsets, but if you clearly show you are not aware of life impacting laws regarding the industry of the people that you try to exploit. It becomes a problem for me.

One does not go out to stores and scream: I AM GOING TO MAKE A NEW TV, to the store owner. But when they ask them: how much xyz material are you going to be using? Resulting in Brad not understanding anything of what they just ask him.

To emphasize context: This is the adult industry.

So "Brad" read a great book about entrepreneurship, then gets the mega original idea that he will start a porn website for individual adult-content creators (with a VERY shitty percentage too), but isn't aware of the biggest most influential law that just passed to wipe out half the industry.

So Brad - mental jerking student - wants to exploit individuals who engage in sex - while mostly not doing anything, just loving the idea of the possibility of becoming rich.

Yeah: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH.

Is my only reply.
 
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Newbies PM me all the time. And if I can help them steer towards the right path, I do.

I’m not sure what Brad did besides have a half assed boiler plate email..
The value exchange is problematic and tiresome. “You provide the content, you provide the name, I will throw it on the web and I will take 60%.”

I used to receive offers like these all the time until I shut them down completely. Vampires that feast off your blood and sell it like it’s a benefit to you. In the world of entrepreneurship, it’s typically newbies that have an idea and want to take other celebrity along for the ride. If what he offered her was a 90% to her, 10% to him the response might have been marginally different. She doesn’t need him, but his big idea fails without her.

Equated back you…Nobody gives a shit about your ideas, your goals, or your ambition. Those are yours. Don’t expect anybody to ever get excited about what you are excited about, especially when your value proposition is that you take the majority of the profit from the collaboration.

MJ gets this all the time. Let me put your book into a board game. I’ll keep 60%, give you 40%. Meanwhile, if I do anything deleterious to your brand ... I walk away.

Here’s what the opposite of this might look like. I develop a tremendously successful content network, then once I have proof of case I contact you and offer you a 90% margin share as a contributor. Do you think the reception in that case might be different?

If you need me more than I need you, then that should be reflected even in your initial proposal. When you pitch something be mindful of the fact that I need you 0% and you need me 100%.

I literally stopped engaging in regular discussions with vampires for the exact reason as it is highlighted in the OP.

Your most valuable commodity is your time. Your second most valuable commodity is your reputation. Protect those above all else.
 
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I had a large Asian manufacturer contact me at the consumer electronics show. They wanted to meet. We met.

Their proposal? I become their US sales marketing distribution and customer service. We promote their brand and build them into number one market share in the United States. At the end of the day, they still own the brand.

Their next question was how much money was I willing to invest in my distribution of their products?

My answer surprised them. They could pay me a tremendous retainer while floating inventory in here on consignment terms, and a reasonable split on the margin.

Aside from that, why wouldn’t I just build my own brand without them? I need them 0% and they need me 100%.

Their initial proposal was faulty and worthy of nothing but

Hahahahaha.
 
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What you just wrote should be pinned somewhere.

Your most valuable commodity is your time. Your second most valuable commodity is your reputation. Protect those above all else.
This. This. This.

Beautifully said, have always admired your clear way of communicating *bows head*
 

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So "Brad" read a great book about entrepreneurship, then gets the mega original idea that he will start a porn website for individual adult-content creators (with a VERY shitty percentage too), but isn't aware of the biggest most influential law that just passed to wipe out half the industry.
Now this whole thread makes sense.

I can’t speak for the other posters, but I had no idea this guy was trying to start a porn website and be exploitive. To me it sounded like he wanted to repost some articles you wrote.

And didn’t know what Sesta/fosta, But assuming those are the laws you’re referring to.
 

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I get that you're angry. I would be too. :)

But if you're trying to actually make change and teach people not to do what "Brad" did, going about it in a pissy way is counterproductive. It undermines your message.

And if you aren't trying to actually provide value and help people ("it's a RANT"), then you're just complaining, which is no better than the value-leeching "Brad."


Nobody made me in charge. You are doing what I am doing: pointing out actions or attitudes of people you don't like.

In your case it is "barking puppies," in my case it is unwarranted, unproductive negativity for the sake of propping oneself up.
I think the point that was being made was "Brad" was trying to take something from @BaraQueenbee without considering her, demanding 60% without anything to show for it.

Maybe Brad enrolled in the "how to be a digital pimp" course and figured he get @BaraQueenbee to sell videos online, taking a 60% cut.

It wasn't that he made the request, more the context of it.
 

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I also suspect there is an extra element involved when people living in mommy’s basement approach serious business people and think simply because they are in the sex industry or other related industries that they would be receptive to what somebody aptly inferred above as a virtual pimp relationship for a non-existent content play with an Abusive value split.

How many people sit around jacking off and think that because they like to watch porn they should open themselves a website , vampire other people’s work and sit back and let millions roll in?

At the end of the day all these “entrepreneurs” are ever going to get is chapped.
 
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Now this whole thread makes sense.

I can’t speak for the other posters, but I had no idea this guy was trying to start a porn website and be exploitive. To me it sounded like he wanted to repost some articles you wrote.

And didn’t know what Sesta/fosta, But assuming those are the laws you’re referring to.
Ah pardon me, to me that was somehow very clear. But now that I read it back I can totally see how it wasn't.
I will add that in the original post. Thank you!

Sesta and Fosta are 2 laws that the government sold to the world under the umbrella of "Fighting Sex Traffic".
Which we can all agree. Sex traffic = no bueno must die.
However it resulted in the BAN of ANY and (USA BASED) ALL Professional Sex workers, and even made it a felony.

Resulting in even more complex issues, but I won't bother everyone with that now.
 

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Maybe Brad enrolled in the "how to be a digital pimp" course and figured he get @BaraQueenbee to sell videos online, taking a 60% cut
WTF WTF WTF I watched some parts of the video in the link above, I can't believe there exists this sort of thing! Not sure if it's a troll website but I had to close the browser halfway watching the guy explain the stuff, it's so funny I can't stop LMAO LOL

:rofl:

EDIT: Just watched it again, it's really creepy when he said "For example, if you're in Singapore", and I wonder it's some coincidence or the video can determine the viewer's geographical location and the content changes accordingly lol....
 

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In my daily life I volunteer at Rescue Shelter for women, as well as being loud (politically involved) and online about certain -isms in the world.
Reposting this for emphasis as I wanted to make sure you all didn’t skip past this simple sentence.

Look beyond the surface.
 

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I also suspect there is an extra element involved when people living in mommy’s basement approach serious business people and think simply because they are in the sex industry or other related industries that they would be receptive to what somebody aptly inferred above as a virtual pimp relationship for a non-existent content play with an Abusive value split.

How many people sit around jacking off and think that because they like to watch porn they should open themselves a website , vampire other people’s work and sit back and let millions roll in?

At the end of the day all these “entrepreneurs” are ever going to get is chapped.
Does it really take 7 years, though?
 

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