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Discussion in 'Advertising, Marketing, Social Media' started by Elijah, Feb 22, 2018.

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    I would just say: "I'll paypal you $5 for a 24 hour sponsored post if interested. Yes or no?" Keep it short. Don't talk about long term investment yet. Nobody wants to commit yet. Larger pages with 10k followers would probably take that offer btw
     
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    I'm actually doing tutorials for what I make on my page. I'll make a progress thread at the end of the month with links to my page. Video editing is complicated. It costs money for a good computer and to pay for the software. I wouldn't advise it if you are tight for cash
     
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    I would change it to say what THEY are getting out of it. Why should they care about your brand?

    I just have “ask us how to earn money with us” in my bio and two people reached out to me and promoted my instagram/website before my website even launched. If your niche is good enough, they’ll come. Say something like: “Hey! We love your page. (Ask question about one of their pics). We are paying Instagram users (money emoji), with content that we like, to help us promote our brand. All you have to do is post a picture similar to our content and tag us in it! Or you can order something you like and post a pic of that. We will give you a discount code and anyone that uses it at checkout gets you money! Easy as that. Money for posting a picture.”

    Don’t use that word for word, but that’s similar to how I structure it.

    Then go into whatever details you want to give, like percentage of a sale or whatever you want to give them.
     
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    I'll try that for a few weeks and report back for y'all :) THANKS!

    I've been making tons of sales from "Shoutout posts" where I have an influencer post a sale for my product. Some of them won't post your link in their bio, so I just post it in my bio with a related caption. This has been working for sales, but I have to keep switching up my Bio and honestly it doesn't look good... Currently it is "HALF OFF SALE on XXXitemXXX for the next 12 hours!"

    Do you suggest going with a solid bio and simply switching the link ONLY when I do shoutouts for different products??
     
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    Also, is this the "Everliker" you guys are referring to?? I didn't know that you had to have 10k followers in order to use the Swipe Up feature on stories... Does anyone have any objections to using Everliker to get to 10k then shutting it off?? Normally I'm against bots but sh*t...
     
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    I’d like to clarify that I’m NO expert on Instagram haha I’m just telling you what I use and what works for me vs what doesn’t.

    As far as bio goes, check my post earlier in the thread about starting a hashtag with your brand name in it (or something similar and catchy) for people to tag you with. I also have my business email in there with some email emojis for pics and whatever else. My store link and “ask about earning money with us” are the other things on there.

    I wouldn’t put 50% off sale or anything like that in my bio but that’s just my opinion.
     
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    That makes two of us haha :) Thanks for the help. I hadn't been posting daily either so I just stacked about 60 posts ready to go out the door so I can easily post them with a few seconds each day.
     
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    I just logged onto IG for the first time in over a year because of MJs thread where he’s posting on IG.

    Seems I’ve got 0 posts. I don’t even know how to use it, or what to use it for. I don’t even remember creating an account tbh.

    Haha. Talk about starting from ground zero.

    Anyway... I thought I’d had a look at IG because I was going to create a thread in TFLF of my favourite quotes, and because I’m now curious about some other platform I’ve never used.

    Seems I’ve fallen over at the first hurdle though - I’ve got 4G signal on my phone and everything seems to work fine, but IG is complaining there’s no connection. Does it do this a lot?


    EDIT: I’ve got 80 followers? How did that happen when I’ve never posted anything? Is it somehow linked to my Facebook account?

    Anyway, I might start a fresh new account and a progress thread in TFLF where I drop in my favourite quotes and see what happens on IG.
     
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    Not sure how much followers you've now, but I doubt Everliker can get you to 10K that fast. If you're not that far off from 10K, you might as well buy some followers to fill up that gap.

    It's very normal. Some kind of quirk that IG has often.
    Sometimes when you open the app, the feed doesn't refresh and/or when you click the Likes button to see the latest folks who Liked and Commented, it's still showing the old stuff from 30 mins - 1 hour ago. But it always fixes itself afterwards. More of an annoyance but it's all good.
    Sometimes the app loses connection halfway.

    I could be wrong, but from my experience, IG doesn't take too kindly to posts with too much text and/or made up of text. Similar to that FB thing where they recommend only 20% of the post should be text, but IG seems a lot stricter than FB (after all IG is a very visual platform).

    I did a few promoted ads on IG previously, and the ads with text in it had really ridiculously low reach to the point that IG sent an automated message saying ads with text will be affected in terms of reach.
    Same seems to apply for IG non-ad posts.

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    UPDATE ON MY INSTAGRAM JOURNEY:

    1) I bought 10 comments from RedSocial, where I instructed the commenters to tag a friend.
    Very bad experience with these fuckers. Took my money and never delivered anything till now. I suspect it might even be a scam. And they took 3 working days to reply to one simple email. Stay away from these folks.

    2) I just tried the IG commenting pod on telegram (the Wolf Global one). I really like this one, because you only need to comment on the last 5 links, then you post your own IG link, and you get about 4 - 5 comments in return! Plus, you can repeat this multiple times per day to farm even more comments lol
    The only thing to note is that you need to have at least 5 other links from other folks in the pod before you can post your link again (so that people don't spam).

    Let's say you post your link in that pod and you get 4 comments in return. You then do this 5 times per day (3 - 5 mins each round).
    That's about 20 comments per post. If you reply to those each of those 20 comments, that's 40 comments in your post! That looks more social and decent than 0 comments lol

    I was thinking, if I have cash to burn, I can even hire a VA to do that 10 times a day.
    That'll be like ~100 comments per post! Social proof galore.

    Also, most of these folks on the pod have 10k+ followers, and many are cute chicks doing fashion and all that narcissistic selfies sh*t. If you're in the same niche, you can even partner with them / collab.

    3) I also joined a niche-specific pod. This type of niche pods are a lot smaller, but they still give you comments. So, combined with 2) above, I currently average 25 - 40 comments per post, compared to less than 3 previously.

    4) Gonna bump up Everliker to do 1400 likes per day. Currently 1200. Once Everliker is set to 1400, I believe I can nail 20 - 30 followers daily.

    #socialproofbaby #10Kgoals #instadreams #instagame #instaiseverything
     
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    Quick Update.

    1) RedSocial has finally delivered my 10 comments after 5 days (website stated 3 days delivery).
    I'm quite sure the accounts are probably fake, because the accounts were all created in Oct 2017, has less than 10 followers each, and each of their post has less than 3 Likes. What's interesting, is that each of them have 200 - 300 followers, and their followers seem real to me. However, at least they did put in some effort to make the accounts look real with photos of the same people (selfies etc.).

    However, for the quality of their comments, they did deliver as per my requirements, which is to tag their friend's account and their comment text are all very specific to the post I made, so comments wise, it looks 100% real and sincere (you can't even tell unless you check their profile and analyse them, which your casual everyday IGers would not do).
    I would say these guys are best used to mix in with the comments from the telegram pods to give you even more comment count. 30 telegram comments + 10 of these purchased comments.

    2) Found another free telegram pod today: Free Instagram Engagement Groups | BoostUp Social
    Join the Dx10 group and you trade 10 comments for 10 comments.
    Nowadays, getting 40 - 60 comments per post is no longer a challenge.

    3) I'm currently experimenting with this purchase of drip followers, whereby they send you 10 followers a day and you get approx +300 "followers" a month, instead of sending all to you at one shot, which is obviously too obvious.
     
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    Is this extra engagement leading to growth though? Or are you using it to improve the social proof of your adverts?
     
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    Not sure what you mean by growth, but my aim to build very strong social proof which I can then use as a base to market.
     
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    Ah right, fair enough then. I thought you were doing it to grow your following, but if it's about social proof to help sales on the advert/promoted post, then it seems like it might be worth it!
     
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    Thank you for this idea!
     
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    Let me give my two cents on growing Instagram as far as my experience allows me.

    In general:
    Think of a product first, create it and then start your Instagram, then start using bots like the free or paid version of Everlike or the free or paid version of Telegram L/C - you will find the links in reddit (I used Telegram once, but found it very time consuming. For this time I'd prefer to work and put some money on one day featuring the product for money on bigger accounts).
    Your Instagram has to be different from all or at least most of the accounts out there to get a real engagement from honestly interested in your feed people. You have to give them something, to teach them, to make them think and come to your account for more.

    I started with this:
    motivational quotes and food pics- they work best to get attention. My products are in the fitness industry and I have three Instagram accounts. I build the one of them before my product was ready and at the beginning I was using media, that wasn't about my niche product. When my product was ready to be featured I had to change my feed, thus my followers. This is why I am telling you above to first build your product. Once your feed changes, some, many or most if not all of your followers won't be interested in it anymore, which will lead to Instagram thinking you are a bot (a lot of followers and not a lot of engagement), which leads to your posts not being shown in the feed of your followers.

    Learn the platform:
    Learn how the platform works and use all the features it offers. I read somewhere, that the more features you use from what Instagram is offering you, the better "the algorithm works for you", aka use hashtags, emojis (silly, but part of the platform), my stories, polls, highlights, live videos, reposting and mentioning bigger accounts and your followers, use filters in your stories.

    Who are you? Think of a good, creative, memorable account name and build your bio, let people clearly know who you are, what you offer. The first row of your bio is going to be shown below your username, so make the best out of it, when people search you.

    Put in there your email address and other contact form details. If you are going to sell, make sure people are comfortable with giving your their money.

    Timing is of course very important- I read that if you don't post at a time, when your followers are awake and free to react, then your post won't get a high traction and won't be featured on the feed page of most of your followers, because Instagram "thinks" you may be a bot and the more followers you have and less reaction on your posts, the worse the algorithm is to your account.

    Post every day- multiple times in a day if possible, but max 3 posts. You want your followers to not forget you. Besides every single time you can use all the hashtags possible = attraction!

    Use all the hashtags possible and change them once in a while, but not always and not never. When you are small, use hashtags, which have less than 200k posts, so that you get a chance of being featured in "top posts" of this hashtag. The higher you are positioned in a hashtag, the better visibility. Start using a few hashtags with more posts- 500k or even over 1m, when your account grows. Don't always change your #s- create a small feed of you there to get noticed.

    Create your own brand's hashtag and use it every single time. There is a new feature that provides you the opportunity to follow hashtags.

    Use hashtags in your stories!

    Create a group of friends in WhatsApp or wherever and ask them to like your newly posted media within 60min. This will increase the boost of your post, thus the visibility to your followers' feed page. This is mega important! Note it!!

    When you (like many of the great accounts) start using a bot like Everliker, start with following/liking smaller accounts, this is great for numbers as they're more likely to follow back (as already mentioned). Choose an account with 10k followers and start following its followers. When you grow to 10k followers choose another account that has 40k followers and start following its followers and so on.

    Soon you can start using bigger accounts for shout outs (paid) and smaller accounts for shout outs (as a favour of you posting a pic of theirs on your feed) as you could also tell the smaller account owners to post a pic from your feed on their Instagram and mention 10 or more followers of theirs to check out your feed, comment a ❤️ ❤️ if they like your feed/product or leave a ❤️ and write down their ideas to you, if they think you could work on bettering your feed/product).

    Make your feed entertaining:
    Use emojis, leave empty rows, write longer captions, make them funny and memorable.
    Example is this pic below.
    Would you memorise it by reading the captions
    "Just the cactuses in my room- a memory from my ex girlfriend."
    or...
    "A live pic of me and my girlfriends chilling, periods synced and not shaving for a week."
    or a caption like
    "Aren't they beautiful"?
    Make your content memorisable.

    Who said you should use the standard way of uploading media in your stories?
    Check out @jessedriftwood and his edited into a movie stories. Some people sell only from their stories, only from a content that lasts 24 hrs- something like Snapchat. For this your product and its presentation has to be very convincing. When you reach the 10k followers a new feature will enable you to direct people to your selling page- straight from your stories! How cool is that please!! And then you can highlight that story with the link and let it be visible for a few more days.

    [​IMG]

    Until then you shall work on bettering the quality of your feed and learning from the bigger accounts by just pretending to be their follower and tracking your own reactions to their feed. Be patient and know it takes more than a night, 3 months or 30 weeks to create a real following.

    I know some of you may think my info isn't new at all, but if I see an account, which is promoting its feed and if the feed doesn't provide any valuable info to me, then I will pass on it as it would look like a spam.
    I hope I helped some of you!
     
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    I'm afraid I started the wrong way. Because it took almost one year for my product to be ready, back then, my plan was to start IG to gain all these followers for my specific niche, and then in future, insert my products occasionally into my feed. But then again, when I eventually launch officially, I won't be changing the content much, so maybe it won't have a big impact on me. The idea is "build an audience first, then market the product to them".

    Does this have any effect? Tbh, from my heavy usage of IG this one year, I can honestly say most of these bigger accounts (100k and above) don't give a rat's ass, unless you're their personal friend in real life or something.

    Don't quite understand this paragraph. Do you mean we should post consistently at the same time each time?

    Have you tried this before? If so, mind sharing how much their rates are? e.g: account with 20K followers charge US$50 for 1 shoutout?

    Do you think people still read captions, or just skip over after looking at the image? I always have this idea people nowadays don't have the time to read anymore, in this fast-pace society.
    Btw, that 4th line above is funny and epic AF lol
    I always admire everyone who can come up with such witty comments. It's like a natural to them.

    Thanks for your valuable insight!
     
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    Sorry for my reply appearing this way, I haven't commented on TFLF since ages...
     
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    Most of IG users want to have huge followers. So, they use follow/unfollow technique.

    They follow someone at random and hope that they'll follow back. They unfollow once they reach a certain amount of followers (some forget that too).

    But, I am not sure if our FB accounts are linked to IG.
     
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    FB can be linked to Instagram, and in that case you'll get spammed with recommendations for which Facebook friends you can follow.

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    bots + vpns + proxys

    lmao
     
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    For those folks interested in engagement pods, then in addition to the WolfGlobal and BoostUp ones mentioned in above posts, here's a website that keeps track of the latest pods you can join:
    AllEngagement.com - The Instagram Engagement & Growth Guide: March 2018 - Full List of Telegram Engagement Groups for Instagram (8,754+ Members)

    The list is not exhaustive, I know there's others out there and I'm hunting them down when I'm free.

    It's 6 hours after I made my post and it has 24 comments (a few are by me). By the 24 - 36 hour mark, I expect that no. to hit 40 comments or more.

    UPDATE: I just bought 5 custom comments from Buysocialmediamarketing.com to test out stuff. AVOID THESE GUYS! Basically, they let you fill out 5 boxes with your own comments and then they use fake accounts to post these 5 comments on your posts. All is good, until there's a glitch in their system, and they repost the same comment on my post with different accounts. That looks funny AF and it's a good thing I immediately removed those duplicated comments. :rofl:
     
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    I've been hitting the comment pods hard during the last two days. It's time intensive as hell but I feel it will pay off way better than just getting loads of likes.

    And you know, the fastlane forum's own social media rockstar uses them... so why shouldn't I...
     
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    LOL, same here! By the way, I don't think it's that time intensive. I'm doing about 4 pods currently and it takes only about 35 mins max. The time consuming part is where you copy and paste links from telegram into the browser window. I feel it's worth it though.

    The current post has 49 comments, I expect it hit near 60 by end of tomorrow. Looks decent for a 4.6k follower account lol

    How much time are you spending on the pods for commenting?
     
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    Hey all,

    Appreciate all the good tips on here...and there are A LOT.

    The best I've figured out so far is using Growbot. I'm still on the free trial, and have made about 500 (about to hit the big 1k) followers in less than a week. What I do is find someone that I follow and admire, load their followers (about 700 each time), and hit "follow all". Then I just let it cruise while I work on other things. I make sure NOT to play on Instagram and post anything during this time.

    Initially, I was letting it sit for about 24 hours, then unfollowing whoever doesn't follow me (an option.) I'm probably going to let it cruise to around 1100, then unfollow everyone until I'm down to the original 300 or so.

    Then maybe repeat.

    What I wish it DID have was to unfollow anybody new in the past few days. It does the opposite actually, and unfollows anyone before a specified number of days.

    Additionally, I've been loosely playing with Everliker with mediocre results. What I do like about it is that I can simplify it to multiple hashtags and slet it go.


    I'm also working on beefing up my activity - meaning creating a bunch of highlight stories, and then setting up posts through Preview. It's a service (subscription based - $8/month) where you can edit and prepare as many posts as you want, make them look all pretty and sh*t, then it will remind you when to launch them. Check it out when you get a chance. Here's a nice new article from them too.
    Top 10 Favorite Insta Story Tricks
     
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    Xeon Nessuna macchina per me se non una Pagani Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

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    I checked out growbot.... isn't it a mass follow-unfollow tool? I thought IG is now picking up on these and also more importantly, it really messes up your feed and you can't keep track of the people you genuinely follow, because it's like here today, gone tmr due to the constant follow-unfollow.
     
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