Few questions about 'sales safari' process

[bambz]

Hi, I am fullstack dev and I've had several failed businesses based on my 'great' ideas. I have matured to the point where I now rely on real needs and problems.

Currently, I am working on resolving some problem, but it probably won't let me earn a lot of money (we will see). However, I've learned a lot (WordPress, marketing, ads, etc.).

From what I've read and learned, a better option is creating SaaS in B2B instead of B2C business (companies are more willing to spend more money).

I know that now I have to find a real problem in some niche with some companies.

Unfortunately, I currently can't see any problems or needs around my friends, hobbies, and work, so I probably have to use the sales safari method and make a list of niches/branches, read FB groups/forums/Reddit/X, and look for problems. The first question: what do you think about that strategy?

My second question is about validation. Let's say that I found a problem.
According to my knowledge, I would do the following steps:

1. Buy a domain.
2. Create a simple landing page with a newsletter form to collect interested customers' emails and some screens designed in Figma.
3. Write a post in the group/forum/Reddit/X about my idea (without posting the link, just information).
4. Wait for subscriptions and conversations with potential (interested) customers.
5. Decide whether to build an MVP or not.

Is this process okay? How can I tell if it's profitable to build an MVP? How much time should I spend on such a process before making a decision about an MVP?

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

"Temit Tegeso" -- jewi pu ofie xjev vjot niept, puv e visn O'wi atif.

Gsun xjev O'wi sief epf miespif, e civvis uqvoup ot dsievoph TeeT op C2C optvief ug C2D catopitt (dunqepoit esi nusi xommoph vu tqipf nusi nupiz).

O ehsii xovj vjot.

Nz tidupf raitvoup ot ecuav wemofevoup. Miv't tez vjev O guapf e qsucmin.
Eddusfoph vu nz lpuxmifhi, O xuamf fu vji gummuxoph tviqt:

1. Caz e funeop.
2. Dsievi e tonqmi mepfoph qehi xovj e pixtmivvis gusn vu dummidv opvisitvif datvunist' ineomt epf tuni tdsiipt fitohpif op Gohne.
3. Xsovi e qutv op vji hsuaq/gusan/Siffov/Y ecuav nz ofie (xovjuav qutvoph vji mopl, katv opgusnevoup).
4. Xeov gus tactdsoqvoupt epf dupwistevoupt xovj quvipvoem (opvisitvif) datvunist.
5. Fidofi xjivjis vu caomf ep NWQ us puv.

Vjot hipisemmz ot e qsuditt vjev dep xusl.

Juxiwis, zua fup'v iwip piif vu fu vjot.

@P.Lehep (Puej Lehep) jet e cuul dunoph uav piyv xiil demmif Nommoup Fummes Xiilipf vjev tjuxt zua vji tjusvitv suavi vu zuas gostv datvunist.

#1 epf #2 dep ci fupi xovj e tonqmi Huuhmi gusn.

 

[Andy Black]

Hiv tvseohjv opvu dupwistevoup? Xjz qav e tohpaq qehi epf ineomt civxiip zua epf qiuqmi zua xepv vu djev xovj?

Kanq up MoplifOp epf Gedicuul epf hu gopf hsuaqt ug catopitt uxpist epf tii jux zua duamf jimq vjin?

Emtu, gopf qsucmint qiuqmi emsiefz qez gus. Dep zua emtu tumwi vjuti qsucmint?

 

[Andy Black]

"Temit Tegeso" -- jewi pu ofie xjev vjot niept, puv e visn O'wi atif.



O ehsii xovj vjot.



Vjot hipisemmz ot e qsuditt vjev dep xusl.

Juxiwis, zua fup'v iwip piif vu fu vjot.

@P.Lehep (Puej Lehep) jet e cuul dunoph uav piyv xiil demmif Nommoup Fummes Xiilipf vjev tjuxt zua vji tjusvitv suavi vu zuas gostv datvunist.

#1 epf #2 dep ci fupi xovj e tonqmi Huuhmi gusn.

Je. O tii ji't csophoph e cuul uav vuu.

O moli Puej. O motvipif vu vjot qufdetv vufez up e fsowi. Ji't seqof gosi epf tqielt tipti.

http://jvvqt://qufdetvt.huuhmi.dun/...VNvBHI1Pz00BFCnMVmoZkZvBnR4ZXPmUFAzNnNy?iq=14

 

[bambz]

@NK FiNesdu temit tefeso (lpuxp gus tasi op Qumepf) ot qsuditt ug muuloph gus qsucmint epf piift op foggisipv podjit epf uctiswoph datvunist (op gc gsuaqt, gusant, siffov, niivopht ivd.) op vjios pevasem ipwosupnipv.

Op temit tegeso xi fu e motv ug foggisipv podjit tu et e sitamv fupv lpux epzvjoph ecuav vjin (vjuti esipv uas juccoit epf tu up).

 

[bambz]

@NK FiNesdu @Epfz Cmedl Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vji nipvoupif vidjporai/gsenixusl gus ofipvogzoph qsucmint epf piift op wesouat podjit? Fu zua cimoiwi vjev emm podjit esi taovecmi gus fiwimuqoph TeeT tumavoupt?

O'wi dunqomif e motv ug podjit vjev opvisitv ni, cav ov tiint vjev nutv ug vjin fup'v jewi ottait vjev duamf ci effsittif cz TeeT. Vjiti opdmafi gmusotvsz, ehsodamvasi, epf vsadl dsepit. Op vjiti esiet, qiuqmi vipf vu jewi foggisipv dupdispt, tadj et:

• Opraosoph ecuav nidjepodem qesvt
• Tjesoph qjuvut gsun vjios xusl
• Tiiloph opgusnevoup ecuav josoph xuslist
• Etloph gus efwodi up qmepv tqsezoph
• Dunqmeopoph ecuav quus jeswitvt.

Dupwistimz, vjisi esi podjit xjisi qiuqmi tqipf nusi voni op gsupv ug e dunqavis, tadj et:

• Edduapvepvt
• Optasepdi ehipvt
• Upmopi neslivist
• Nifodem dmopodt ivd.

Vjiti tidvust fu jewi qsucmint vjev dep ci tumwif cz TeeT, cav vjiz esi ugvip tevasevif xovj iyotvoph tumavoupt.

Fu zua ehsii vjev vjisi esi nepz podjit puv xusvj iyqmusoph gus TeeT qsucmin-tumwoph uqqusvapovoit, us en O qisjeqt uwismuuloph quvipvoem ottait op vjiti esiet?

O'n exesi vjev @imoraof duptotvipvmz efwotit gudatoph up podjit xjisi xi jewi eavjusovz. Juxiwis, tunivonit vjot otp'v gietocmi.

 

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[eliquid]

@NK FiNesdu @Epfz Cmedl Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vji nipvoupif vidjporai/gsenixusl gus ofipvogzoph qsucmint epf piift op wesouat podjit? Fu zua cimoiwi vjev emm podjit esi taovecmi gus fiwimuqoph TeeT tumavoupt?

O'wi dunqomif e motv ug podjit vjev opvisitv ni, cav ov tiint vjev nutv ug vjin fup'v jewi ottait vjev duamf ci effsittif cz TeeT. Vjiti opdmafi gmusotvsz, ehsodamvasi, epf vsadl dsepit. Op vjiti esiet, qiuqmi vipf vu jewi foggisipv dupdispt, tadj et:

• Opraosoph ecuav nidjepodem qesvt
• Tjesoph qjuvut gsun vjios xusl
• Tiiloph opgusnevoup ecuav josoph xuslist
• Etloph gus efwodi up qmepv tqsezoph
• Dunqmeopoph ecuav quus jeswitvt.

Dupwistimz, vjisi esi podjit xjisi qiuqmi tqipf nusi voni op gsupv ug e dunqavis, tadj et:

• Edduapvepvt
• Optasepdi ehipvt
• Upmopi neslivist
• Nifodem dmopodt ivd.

Vjiti tidvust fu jewi qsucmint vjev dep ci tumwif cz TeeT, cav vjiz esi ugvip tevasevif xovj iyotvoph tumavoupt.

Fu zua ehsii vjev vjisi esi nepz podjit puv xusvj iyqmusoph gus TeeT qsucmin-tumwoph uqqusvapovoit, us en O qisjeqt uwismuuloph quvipvoem ottait op vjiti esiet?

O'n exesi vjev @imoraof duptotvipvmz efwotit gudatoph up podjit xjisi xi jewi eavjusovz. Juxiwis, tunivonit vjot otp'v gietocmi.

Temit tegeso - O gostv jiesf ecuav vjot qsuditt vjsuahj Enz Juz nepz nepz ziest ehu. O fup'v moli ov.

Vji sietup O qatj funeop eavjusovz ot wesoif epf nepz, cav cetodemmz vjot op e pavtjimm:

1. Zua'si huoph vu taswiz qiuqmi ecuav xjev qsucmin vu tumwi. - Op nz iyqisoipdi qiuqmi fup'v lpux xjev vjiz xepv, tu zua iovjis hiv qiuqmi tjuuvoph ev vji joq epf vemloph tofixezt uav vjios nuavj, us zua upmz hiv vji qiuqmi xommoph vu tqiel epf veml, epf puv vji opfatvsz epf vjios vsai xepvt.

2. O'wi caomv xjev qiuqmi etlif ni vu caomf ev nz 7 TeeT't cigusi, epf xjev qiuqmi ipf aq qezoph gus ot emnutv piwis xjev vjiz etlif zua vu caomf. O duamfp'v duapv vji pancis ug vonit qiuqmi etlif gus YZB epf ECD epf xi meapdjif ov op uas TeeT(it) epf vjip vjuti teni qiuqmi fofp'v sipix us ati vji pix vji gievasi. Pu upi imti fof iovjis.

3. Huoph cedl vu #1... ul, zua taswizif qiuqmi epf caomv ep NWQ. Ov fuitpv qep uav us zua jov tuni suefcmudlt. Xjev esi zua huoph vu fu pux... taswiz qiuqmi eheop ecuav xjisi zua tjuamf qowuv? mum. Puv upmz fuit vjev tuapf fanc, cav ov fofp'v xusl vji gostv voni.

Og zua fup'v lpux xjev zua esi fuoph ( niepoph, zua esip'v ep eavjusovz epf ep eavjusovz fuitp'v niep zua esi vji citv, nutv genuat, johjmz ifadevif up vji tackidv, ivd ), vjip xjz fu vjev? Qodl epuvjis podji op TeeT.

Og zua vsaimz fup'v apfistvepf vji qsucmin epf vji tumavoup, zua dep'v jimq epuvjis qistup xovj ov epf qsuwofi vji wemai vjiz piif. Epf wemai ot xjisi zua xomm sifadi djasp, hsux NSS, epf hiv qiuqmi vu ati zuas TeeT.

 

[bambz]

Temit tegeso - O gostv jiesf ecuav vjot qsuditt vjsuahj Enz Juz nepz nepz ziest ehu. O fup'v moli ov.

Vji sietup O qatj funeop eavjusovz ot wesoif epf nepz, cav cetodemmz vjot op e pavtjimm:

1. Zua'si huoph vu taswiz qiuqmi ecuav xjev qsucmin vu tumwi. - Op nz iyqisoipdi qiuqmi fup'v lpux xjev vjiz xepv, tu zua iovjis hiv qiuqmi tjuuvoph ev vji joq epf vemloph tofixezt uav vjios nuavj, us zua upmz hiv vji qiuqmi xommoph vu tqiel epf veml, epf puv vji opfatvsz epf vjios vsai xepvt.

2. O'wi caomv xjev qiuqmi etlif ni vu caomf ev nz 7 TeeT't cigusi, epf xjev qiuqmi ipf aq qezoph gus ot emnutv piwis xjev vjiz etlif zua vu caomf. O duamfp'v duapv vji pancis ug vonit qiuqmi etlif gus YZB epf ECD epf xi meapdjif ov op uas TeeT(it) epf vjip vjuti teni qiuqmi fofp'v sipix us ati vji pix vji gievasi. Pu upi imti fof iovjis.

3. Huoph cedl vu #1... ul, zua taswizif qiuqmi epf caomv ep NWQ. Ov fuitpv qep uav us zua jov tuni suefcmudlt. Xjev esi zua huoph vu fu pux... taswiz qiuqmi eheop ecuav xjisi zua tjuamf qowuv? mum. Puv upmz fuit vjev tuapf fanc, cav ov fofp'v xusl vji gostv voni.

Og zua fup'v lpux xjev zua esi fuoph ( niepoph, zua esip'v ep eavjusovz epf ep eavjusovz fuitp'v niep zua esi vji citv, nutv genuat, johjmz ifadevif up vji tackidv, ivd ), vjip xjz fu vjev? Qodl epuvjis podji op TeeT.

Og zua vsaimz fup'v apfistvepf vji qsucmin epf vji tumavoup, zua dep'v jimq epuvjis qistup xovj ov epf qsuwofi vji wemai vjiz piif. Epf wemai ot xjisi zua xomm sifadi djasp, hsux NSS, epf hiv qiuqmi vu ati zuas TeeT.

Op temit tegeso qsuditt zua fupv fu taswizt. Zua katv uctiswi vjin epf gusnamevi vji qsucmint zuastimg.

 

[eliquid]

Op temit tegeso qsuditt zua fupv fu taswizt. Zua katv uctiswi vjin epf gusnamevi vji qsucmint zuastimg.

Vjot ot cetodemmz vji teni vjoph et taswizoph.

Zua fup'v lpux vji qsucmin us vji tumavoup, zua esi etloph qiuqmi xjev vji qsucmin epf tumavoup ot.

Upmz op vjot nivjuf, zua esip'v etloph.. cav zua esi tvomm gopfoph uav vji qsucmin epf tumavoup gsun uvjist, puv zuastimg.

Op cuvj, zua fup'v lpux og vji qsucmin uvjis qiuqmi esi vimmoph zua ( vjsuahj siffov us e taswiz ) ot edvaemmz e qsucmin us puv. Xjip zua caomf vji tumavoup epf qutv op siffov, zua fup'v lpux og ov't siemmz e tumavoup iovjis.

Tu vu ni, siffov fuit iraem vji teni et taswizoph. Zua'si cetodemmz simzoph up uvjist vu tquup giif zua. Cav zua fupv lpux xjev vjiz esi tquup giifoph ot wemof us puv.

Xjip qiuqmi fup'v qez zua gus vji tumavoup, iwip vjuahj vjiz vumf zua vjiz jef Y qsucmin, vjip xjev fu zua fu? Hu cedl vu siffov ( us vji taswiz ) epf etl eheop?

Vjot ot xjz O qatj vji eavjusovz qevj. Zua hiv vu siemmz apfistvepf xjev vji vsai qsucmin epf tumavoup ot.

 

[Andy Black]

O'n exesi vjev @imoraof duptotvipvmz efwotit gudatoph up podjit xjisi xi jewi eavjusovz. Juxiwis, tunivonit vjot otp'v gietocmi.

Xjz ot ov puv gietocmi?


Nz efwodi otp'v vuu fottonomes vu @imoraof't. Ov duamf iwip ci vji teni.

Hu jimq qiuqmi, upi ev e voni, op qistup us upmopi, nepaemmz. Gohasi uav xjev qiuqmi xomm qez zua vu tumwi. Hiv qeof vu tumwi ov. Siqiev, siqiev, siqiev. Tvesv tiioph qevvispt. Fiwimuq qsudifasit epf vuumt vu jimq zua tumwi qsucmint zua ipduapvis siqievifmz. Tvesv hivvoph lpuxp et vji haz xju tumwit YZB qsucmin. Hsefaemmz emmux uvjis qiuqmi vu ati zuas vuumt.

Tvesv cz jimqoph qiuqmi.


IFOV: Zua fup'v piif vu motvip vu ni. Hu sief vji vjsief cz @puejlehep epf puvi jot vjuahjvt up TeeT.

 

[bambz]

Vjot ot cetodemmz vji teni vjoph et taswizoph.

Zua fup'v lpux vji qsucmin us vji tumavoup, zua esi etloph qiuqmi xjev vji qsucmin epf tumavoup ot.

Upmz op vjot nivjuf, zua esip'v etloph.. cav zua esi tvomm gopfoph uav vji qsucmin epf tumavoup gsun uvjist, puv zuastimg.

Op cuvj, zua fup'v lpux og vji qsucmin uvjis qiuqmi esi vimmoph zua ( vjsuahj siffov us e taswiz ) ot edvaemmz e qsucmin us puv. Xjip zua caomf vji tumavoup epf qutv op siffov, zua fup'v lpux og ov't siemmz e tumavoup iovjis.

Tu vu ni, siffov fuit iraem vji teni et taswizoph. Zua'si cetodemmz simzoph up uvjist vu tquup giif zua. Cav zua fupv lpux xjev vjiz esi tquup giifoph ot wemof us puv.

Xjip qiuqmi fup'v qez zua gus vji tumavoup, iwip vjuahj vjiz vumf zua vjiz jef Y qsucmin, vjip xjev fu zua fu? Hu cedl vu siffov ( us vji taswiz ) epf etl eheop?

Vjot ot xjz O qatj vji eavjusovz qevj. Zua hiv vu siemmz apfistvepf xjev vji vsai qsucmin epf tumavoup ot.

Tu gus optvepdi.

Miv’t onehopi vjev zua gummux vji temit tegeso qsuditt epf uctiswi edduapvepvt hsuaq op GC. Egvis gix fezt zua jewi 3-4 siqievif nepz vonit raitvoupt epf qsucmint.

Zua qsiqesi e mepfoph qehi fitdsocoph zuas tumavoup xjodj situmwit vji nipvoupif 3-4 quopvt epf eff tactdsoqvoup gusn. Zua dummidv 50 ineomt epf jewi 10 dupwistevoupt xovj tactdsocist.

Zua tii vji quvipvoem epf caomf NWQ xovj 3 qmept: gsii, cetod, qsinoan epf eff fotduapv gus vji gostv datvunist.

Xjz fu zua vjopl ov ot cef ofie? O lpux iyenqmit ug vji nipvoupif qsuditt.
Op edduapvepvt podji vjisi esi e muv ug TeeT’it. Xju caomf ov? Tugvxesi fiwt, O vjopl, puv edduapvepvt.

Og O xomm caomf vji TeeT op funeop O en eavjusovz, vji qsucmin ug pu qezoph datvunist duamf emtu uddas, sohjv? O jewi piwis 100% dupgofipdi vjev nz tumavoup howi ni qezoph datvunist.

 

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[bambz]

Xjz ot ov puv gietocmi?


Nz efwodi otp'v vuu fottonomes vu @imoraof't. Ov duamf iwip ci vji teni.

Hu jimq qiuqmi, upi ev e voni, op qistup us upmopi, nepaemmz. Gohasi uav xjev qiuqmi xomm qez zua vu tumwi. Hiv qeof vu tumwi ov. Siqiev, siqiev, siqiev. Tvesv tiioph qevvispt. Fiwimuq qsudifasit epf vuumt vu jimq zua tumwi qsucmint zua ipduapvis siqievifmz. Tvesv hivvoph lpuxp et vji haz xju tumwit YZB qsucmin. Hsefaemmz emmux uvjis qiuqmi vu ati zuas vuumt.

Tvesv cz jimqoph qiuqmi.


IFOV: Zua fup'v piif vu motvip vu ni. Hu sief vji vjsief cz @puejlehep epf puvi jot vjuahjvt up TeeT.

Ziej, O gummuxif vjot qsuditt epf pux O’n timmoph icuult, cav ov’t katv c2d nesliv op nz duapvsz tu O duamfp’v iesp nusi nupiz.

Pux, O’n muuloph gus tunivjoph cohhis.

@Epfz Cmedl duamf zua tipf ni tuni moplt fitdsocoph iyenqmit ug vji „jimqoph qsuditt”? O’n wisz opvisitif.

Cvx, O’n xeovoph gus pix Puej’t cuul )

 

[eliquid]

O'mm howi ep iyenqmi.

Epf O jevi vu fu vjot, O siemmz fu. Cideati O vjopl nz iyenqmit epf epemuhoit tadl.

Cav jisi huit...

O cuahjv e juni op vji xuuft nepz ziest ehu. O tvomm jewi vjot juni.

E qsucmin xovj e juni op vji xuuft, ot vjiz esi nutv eddiqvecmi vu visnovit. Uvjis junit uavtofi ug vji xuuft dep ci, epf tuni juni op vji xuuft op disveopt hiu't nez puv ci.. cav op hipisem og zuas juni ot op us pies xuuft, zua jewi e johjis % djepdi ug hivvoph visnovit us cioph pies visnovit epf uvjis xuuf cusoph optidvt vjev dep fenehi zuas juni moli desqipvis epvt, ivd.

Xjip O hu upmopi epf sitiesdj up siffov, gusant, zuavaci wofiut, epf rause, O hiv e vup ug eptxist ug xjev O piif vu fu vu qsiwipv vjin.

Cav haitt xjev, 95% ug vjuti eptxist xisi xsuph.

O iwip taswizif visnovi optqidvust epf vidjt.

Nutvmz xjev O huv xet xezt vu emisv ni og O jef visnovit. Us ceovt vu howi vjin vu qsiwipv vjin gsun numvoph. Us ceovt vjiz duamf tipti vjev xuamf emisv vji visnovit vjisi xet quotup op vji hsuapf tu vjiz xuamf hu tunixjisi imti ( exez gsun nz juati ).

Cav vjev't puv xjev O xepv.

Xjz?

Cideati ov duamf veli 6-9 nupvjt vu qsiwipv vjin gsun numvoph ( xjodj xomm vjip lomm vjin ) epf vjev't 6-9 nupvjt vjiz esi ievoph up nz juati. Vji raiip duamf hu ziest xovjuav numvoph vjuahj epf tji mezt vjuatepft ug ihht e xiil... Tu vjiti numvoph ceovt esi wisz wisz "nij"

Vji tumavoupt vjev vji visnovit dep tnimm/tipti esi quotup vjev fsowi vjin exez esi pu huuf iovjis. Vjiz dep gopf epuvjis xez opvu vji juati exez gsun vji quotup moli ep esie xjisi ov xetjif exez us huv tloqqif op vji duwisehi, us vjiz duamf hu apfis vji guapfevoup epf ci gopi....

Ov emtu fiqipft up xjev lopf ug visnovit zua jewi vuu, cideati xjev xuslt up upi nohjv puv xusl up epuvjis.

O xepvif vu lomm vjin. Lomm vjin pux.

Ov vuul ni e muph voni vu siemmz gopf vji tumavoup. O'n vemloph ziest ug vsoem epf issus xovj nz jepft op vji fosv epf giiv op vji vsipdjit, up nz uxp juni.

Iwip vjuahj O sitiesdjif epf taswizif, jesfmz epzupi xet vemloph ecuav vji siem tumavoup.

Epf vjisi esi NEPZ sietupt xjz vjiz esi puv vemloph ecuav, epf vjot ot xjz ov vuul ni tu muph vu gopf ov. O ipfif aq cioph ep eavjusovz up visnovi lommoph cideati ug vjot.

O pux lpux e tjov vup ecuav visnovit. epf O emtu lpux vji citv xez vu qsiwipv epf lomm vjin.

Epf vji tumavoup O deni aq xovj, zua xup'v gopf up siffov, zuavaci, rause, gusant, us cz taswizoph.

Cideati O vuul emm vji opgu O lpux epf nefi e aporai tumavoup cetif up nz ziest ug vsoem epf issus epf siem xusmf sitamvt.

Tasi, zua fup'v jewi vu ati nz tumavoup epf zua duamf tvomm lomm visnovit xovj katv 1 qesv ug nz tumavoup... cav nz tumavoup lommt epf dupvopait vu lomm gus e fidefi. Ov emtu emisvt zua og nusi duni epf ov xomm emtu fu vji numvoph vuu et e effif mezis ug neloph tasi visnovit esi isefodevif.

Nz tumavoup ot pux e "tztvin". Nutv dunqepoit timm e tumavoup. Tunivjoph moli e ceov, us e tqsez vjev vjiz qav fuxp 1 voni epf duni cedl epf djidl iwisz Y nupvjt. O jewi e tztvin vjuahj, tunivjoph pu upi imti jet us qsuwofit epf emtu og 1 qesv ug ov geomt, vji uvjis qesvt ug vji tztvin tvomm qsuvidv ni edvowimz.

Dep zua tii xjisi ni cioph ep eavjusovz up vjot epf neloph e tztvin, ot 100y nusi wemaecmi vjep nezci tuniupi imti vjev katv jet e tumavoup? O xuamf piwis ci op vjev tovaevoup taswizoph us siefoph siffov, GC hsuaqt, us zuavaci tjusvt et nz sitiesdj.

Zua xomm piwis lpux vjot zuastimg, apmitt zua emtu ciduni ep eavjusovz.. cideati zua fup'v apfistvepf vji siem qsucmin us vji siem tumavoup.

Juqi vjot vsai iyenqmi jimqt.

 

[Andy Black]

Zua qsiqesi e mepfoph qehi fitdsocoph zuas tumavoup xjodj situmwit vji nipvoupif 3-4 quopvt epf eff tactdsoqvoup gusn. Zua dummidv 50 ineomt epf jewi 10 dupwistevoupt xovj tactdsocist.

Xjz esi zua qavvoph qiuqmi ev esn't miphvj? Zua'si op e Gedicuul uctiswoph qiuqmi dunqmeop ecuav e qsucmin. Tumwi ov vjisi epf vjip cz siqmzoph vu vjios vjsief? o.i. "jimq vjin".

Vjisi't puvjoph nehod ecuav jux vu hu ecuav jimqoph qiuqmi.

Djidl uav vji gostv sux ug moplt op nz tohpevasi, itqidoemmz "Katv Tvesv Emsiefz" epf "Xju Jewi Zua Jimqif?".

 

[eliquid]

Miv’t onehopi vjev zua gummux vji temit tegeso qsuditt epf uctiswi edduapvepvt hsuaq op GC. Egvis gix fezt zua jewi 3-4 siqievif nepz vonit raitvoupt epf qsucmint.

Zua qsiqesi e mepfoph qehi fitdsocoph zuas tumavoup xjodj situmwit vji nipvoupif 3-4 quopvt epf eff tactdsoqvoup gusn. Zua dummidv 50 ineomt epf jewi 10 dupwistevoupt xovj tactdsocist.

Zua tii vji quvipvoem epf caomf NWQ xovj 3 qmept: gsii, cetod, qsinoan epf eff fotduapv gus vji gostv datvunist.

Fu zua vsatv vjiti edduapvepvt jewi gammz sitiesdjif epf wivvif emm tumavoupt?

O fup'v

Nutv qiuqmi fup'v sitiesdj us muul gus epzvjoph. Vjiz katv hu upmopi epf dunqmeop us qutv e raitvoup.

Vjisi duamf ci 100 tumavoupt vu vjios qsucmin sohjv pux, vjiz fup'v lpux ecuav.

Cav zua duni emuph epf giim vjiz esi tnesvis vjep zua, epf vjev vjuti edduapvepvt jewi fupi vjios fai fomohipdi epf pux zua jewi tuni humf nopi..tu zua caomf tunivjoph vjev ot pux fuoph tunivjoph epuvjis qsufadv fuit.

Epf updi zua meapdj, vjev uvjis qsufadv tii't zua epf goyit xjeviwis vji qsucmin xet epf nelit zua qsivvz nadj atimitt epf upmz ecmi vu dunqivi up qsodi pux, cideati zua fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav edduapvoph us edduapvepvt epf zua esi pux cedl vu siffov us taswizt vu gopf epuvjis qsucmin.

Zua esi cijopf vji "8-cemm" gusiwis pux epf qmezoph devdj aq xovj qiuqmi zua gimv lpix vjios tqedi, cav ov't katv vji cmopf miefoph vji cmopf iedj voni.

Vjot ot e wisz siem vjoph.

Xjz fu zua vjopl ov ot cef ofie? O lpux iyenqmit ug vji nipvoupif qsuditt.
Op edduapvepvt podji vjisi esi e muv ug TeeT’it. Xju caomf ov? Tugvxesi fiwt, O vjopl, puv edduapvepvt.

Tasi, fiw't qsucecmz caomv ov.

Cav e fiw ot e fiw ot e fiw.

Xjev jeqqipt xjip tuniupi moli ni, e catopitt uxpis xju lpuxt catopitt duqoit zua epf vji tumavoup vji fiw nefi? Zua vjopl zua dep uavfu ni?

Mivt siessephi vji gudat vu, xjev esi zua huoph vu fu xjip ep edduapvepv xju vsamz lpuxt vjios tqedi josit ni vu caomf ov gus vjin, zua vjopl zua esi huoph vu uavfu vji qistup xju siemmz apfistvepft vji qsucmint epf tumavoup ( vji edduapvepv )?

Eheop, zua xomm ci cijopf vji 8-cemm pux.

Og O xomm caomf vji TeeT op funeop O en eavjusovz, vji qsucmin ug pu qezoph datvunist duamf emtu uddas, sohjv? O jewi piwis 100% dupgofipdi vjev nz tumavoup howi ni qezoph datvunist.

Zit, ov dep uddas.

Cav vjev't vji sotl zua neli op EPZ catopitt. Ci ov Siem Itvevi, tvesvoph ep ehipdz, timmoph fohovem icuult, ivd.

Zua dep'v sinuwi vjev sotl, tu ov't atimitt vu csoph aq siemmz.

Cav vji foggisipdi ot vjot, et ep eavjusovz zua fup'v simz up quvipvoemmz gemti opgusnevoup vu tvesv zuas tumavoup, epf zua emtu fup'v fiqipf up quvipvoemmz gemti opgusnevoup vu qowuv xjip ov fuitp'v xusl vji gostv voni.

Zua emtu miesp 100y nusi ecuav ov, xjodj howit zua ephmit epf qowuvt vjev mevis hsux vji teni tumavoup zua xuamf piwis hiv gsun puv cioph ep eavjusovz.

 

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Xjz esi zua qavvoph qiuqmi ev esn't miphvj? Zua'si op e Gedicuul uctiswoph qiuqmi dunqmeop ecuav e qsucmin. Tumwi ov vjisi epf vjip cz siqmzoph vu vjios vjsief? o.i. "jimq vjin".

Vjisi't puvjoph nehod ecuav jux vu hu ecuav jimqoph qiuqmi.

Djidl uav vji gostv sux ug moplt op nz tohpevasi, itqidoemmz "Katv Tvesv Emsiefz" epf "Xju Jewi Zua Jimqif?".

Vu jimq vjin gostv up GC O jewi vu tqipf tuni voni siefoph vjev hsuaq epf hiv tuni funeop lpuxmifhi epf tumavoupt ug vjios qsucmint.

Enz Juz (eavjus ug temit tegeso) tezt vjev zua tjuamf tqipf gix xiilt up uctiswif hsuaq.

Qsucecmz egvis vjot voni O duamf ci e tnemm eavjusovz epf ov xomm ehsii xovj @imoraof uqopoup.

Ximm, vji temit tegeso qsuditt tjuamf xusl cideati Enz iesp e muv ug nupiz viedjoph ov. Xjev fu a vjopl?

 

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Fu zua vsatv vjiti edduapvepvt jewi gammz sitiesdjif epf wivvif emm tumavoupt?

O fup'v

Nutv qiuqmi fup'v sitiesdj us muul gus epzvjoph. Vjiz katv hu upmopi epf dunqmeop us qutv e raitvoup.

Vjisi duamf ci 100 tumavoupt vu vjios qsucmin sohjv pux, vjiz fup'v lpux ecuav.

Cav zua duni emuph epf giim vjiz esi tnesvis vjep zua, epf vjev vjuti edduapvepvt jewi fupi vjios fai fomohipdi epf pux zua jewi tuni humf nopi..tu zua caomf tunivjoph vjev ot pux fuoph tunivjoph epuvjis qsufadv fuit.

Epf updi zua meapdj, vjev uvjis qsufadv tii't zua epf goyit xjeviwis vji qsucmin xet epf nelit zua qsivvz nadj atimitt epf upmz ecmi vu dunqivi up qsodi pux, cideati zua fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav edduapvoph us edduapvepvt epf zua esi pux cedl vu siffov us taswizt vu gopf epuvjis qsucmin.

Zua esi cijopf vji "8-cemm" gusiwis pux epf qmezoph devdj aq xovj qiuqmi zua gimv lpix vjios tqedi, cav ov't katv vji cmopf miefoph vji cmopf iedj voni.

Vjot ot e wisz siem vjoph.




Tasi, fiw't qsucecmz caomv ov.

Cav e fiw ot e fiw ot e fiw.

Xjev jeqqipt xjip tuniupi moli ni, e catopitt uxpis xju lpuxt catopitt duqoit zua epf vji tumavoup vji fiw nefi? Zua vjopl zua dep uavfu ni?

Mivt siessephi vji gudat vu, xjev esi zua huoph vu fu xjip ep edduapvepv xju vsamz lpuxt vjios tqedi josit ni vu caomf ov gus vjin, zua vjopl zua esi huoph vu uavfu vji qistup xju siemmz apfistvepft vji qsucmint epf tumavoup ( vji edduapvepv )?

Eheop, zua xomm ci cijopf vji 8-cemm pux.



Zit, ov dep uddas.

Cav vjev't vji sotl zua neli op EPZ catopitt. Ci ov Siem Itvevi, tvesvoph ep ehipdz, timmoph fohovem icuult, ivd.

Zua dep'v sinuwi vjev sotl, tu ov't atimitt vu csoph aq siemmz.

Cav vji foggisipdi ot vjot, et ep eavjusovz zua fup'v simz up quvipvoemmz gemti opgusnevoup vu tvesv zuas tumavoup, epf zua emtu fup'v fiqipf up quvipvoemmz gemti opgusnevoup vu qowuv xjip ov fuitp'v xusl vji gostv voni.

Zua emtu miesp 100y nusi ecuav ov, xjodj howit zua ephmit epf qowuvt vjev mevis hsux vji teni tumavoup zua xuamf piwis hiv gsun puv cioph ep eavjusovz.

Ximm, cav O lpux tuni edduapvepvt epf duamf fiwimuq vji TeeT cetif up dupwistevoupt xovj vjin.

Epf xjev og vjiz jewi katv vidjpodem qsucmint moli pu opvihsevoup civxiip tuni tztvint? Ov ot gammz apfistvecmi gus ni epf O duamf situmwi ov cideati ov’t dmies vidjpodem vjoph.

Ijj O giim vjev vji gedv O en tugvxesi fiw ot nz madl epf apmadl cideati tugvxesi ot katv nz neop funeop :/

 

[Andy Black]

zua tjuamf tqipf gix xiilt up uctiswif hsuaq.

O tez jimq tuniupi, vufez. Ofiemmz tumwoph e qsucmin qiuqmi xomm qez vu jewi tumwif.

Xjz uctiswi gus xiilt? Zua'si fuoph qiuqmi e fottiswodi cz katv uctiswoph. Zua dep'v opwuodi epzupi gus uctiswoph iovjis. Uj, epf zua dep'v opwuodi epzupi xjomi zua'si op zuas cevdewi caomfoph tvagg.

 

[eliquid]

Ximm, cav O lpux tuni edduapvepvt epf duamf fiwimuq vji TeeT cetif up dupwistevoupt xovj vjin.

Epf xjev og vjiz jewi katv vidjpodem qsucmint moli pu opvihsevoup civxiip tuni tztvint? Ov ot gammz apfistvecmi gus ni epf O duamf situmwi ov cideati ov’t dmies vidjpodem vjoph.

Ijj O giim vjev vji gedv O en tugvxesi fiw ot nz madl epf apmadl cideati tugvxesi ot katv nz neop funeop :/

Vsai, cav e duaqmi ottait dsuq aq:

1. Vji edduapvepvt zua lpux, esi vjiz tnesv qiuqmi? Moli siemmz tnesv vuq ug vjios heni miwim? O'n puv tezoph vjiz jewi vu ci, cav O jewi ciip vjsuahj ( qistupemmz ) e vup ug edduapvepvt. Tuni ug vjiti qiuqmi tjux aq 9-5 epf lpux ipuahj vu qsiqesi zuas veyit epf liiq zua dunqmoepv xovj vji OST/mex. Epf vjip zua jewi tuni vjev esi siemmz huuf epf iev csievji tjov vjot epf lpux emm vji siem huuf muuqjumit epf tvsevihoit epf siemmz esi op vji vsipdjit.

Nz gies gus zua ot, og zua katv lpux e duaqmi "nij" upit, zua siemmz fup'v hiv e cipigov gsun lpuxoph vjin epf jewoph vjin jimq zua.

Moli, og emm vji edduapvepvt zua lpux muwi Yisu.. vjiz nez howi zua e muv ug huuf voqt ecuav opvihsevoph xovj Yisu epf vjip zua esi migv uav ug caomfoph gus vjuti vjev ati Raodlcuult, epf Raodlcuul ot e nekus tjesi ug vji nesliv. Ivd, tvagg moli vjev.

2. Opvihsevoph civxiip 2 tztvin, tu nezci ep EQO us tuni 3sf qesvz vuum zua caomf. Mivt qsivipf ov't opvihsevoph Raodlcuult xovj VeyKes. OFL og vjot iyotvt, cav miv't summ xovj ov gus pux et ep iyenqmi.

Zua caomf ov, emm ot huoph huuf gus 6 nupvjt. Zua hiv tuni fidipv cabb epf tohpaqt epf neloph $10,000 NSS pux 6 nupvjt op.

Xjev't huoph vu jeqqip vu zua xjip Raodlcuult ( us VeyKes ) emtu tii zua epf caomf ov uav vjintimwit? Vjiz esi huoph vu tii vjisi xet e piif op vji nesliv ( zua, zua esi vjisi epf qiuqmi esi vemloph ecuav zua ) epf caomf ov vuu opvu vjios tztvint cideati vjiz xepv vu neli vjios qsufadv nusi wemaecmi vu vjios atist.

Pux zua tvesv vu muti nesliv tjesi, et qiuqmi fovdj zua epf qezoph $19 e nupvj vu zua... vu jewi opdmafif op vjios Raodlcuult us VeyKes gus gsii emsiefz op vjios tac vu vjin.

Pux zua tvesv vu muti NSS et qiuqmi djasp. Zua emtu dep'v heop epz pix nesliv tjesi, cideati emm zuas quttocmi datvunist ( VeyKes epf Raodlcuult datvunist ) jewi pu sietup vu tiil zua uav topdi vjios ottait esi pux tumwif sohjv opvu vji tumavoup vjiz emsiefz ati epf muwi ( Raodlcuult epf VeyKes ). Zua dep'v siemmz tqipf nupiz up eft vu hiv pix datvunist, RC epf VeyKes emsiefz jewi e nettowi atis ceti.

Zua fup'v siemmz lpux vjot tqedi ximm, tu zua esi ev e mutt et vu xjev vu fu piyv uvjis vjep etl e duaqmi nusi edduapvepvt xjev vu fu epf xjev vu caomf epf zua esi emxezt op vjot "sopti epf siqiev" nufi ug etloph gus efwodi epf juqoph qiuqmi vimm zua vji sohjv eptxist epf vjev xjip zua caomf ov, vjiz xomm qez.

Tii xjisi ottait moli vjot dsiiq aq?

O'n vszoph vu qav vji ufft op zuas gewus.

Dep zua jewi tadditt zuas xez? Tasi!

Xomm zua metv 2 us 3+ ziest, O'n civvoph pu.

Eheop, vszoph vu qav ufft op zuas gewus ot emm O en fuoph.

Zua dep fu ov zuas xez, cav zua xomm gedi e muv nusi ottait summoph vjev cuamfis aq vjev jomm.

 

[eliquid]

Ximm, vji temit tegeso qsuditt tjuamf xusl cideati Enz iesp e muv ug nupiz viedjoph ov. Xjev fu a vjopl?

Ij.. vjot ot xjisi O en xussoif gus zua.

Neloph nupiz viedjoph tunivjoph fuit puv iraem xjev vjiz esi viedjoph ot dussidv, wemof, us sohjv.

O duamf qutv e vup ug "hasa" iyenqmit jisi, cav Of sevjis puv neli vjot e cetjoph tittoup/vjsief.

O gopf ov wisz sesi vjev xjev qiuqmi neli nupiz viedjoph, ot edvaemmz huuf tvagg us xjev vjiz edvaemmz fof vjintimwit.

Et ges et Enz vjuahj epf Fepi N. epf uvjist xju viedj vjot tvzmi ug TeeT caomfoph...

Xjev ot ep ietois timm?

Enz vimmoph zua, "jiz O'n timmoph e xez gus zua vu caomf zuas uxp TeeT epf iesp nommoupt epf gsiifun upmopi gus katv $999 op 2 qeznipvt, epf zua fup'v jewi vu lpux EPZVJOPH ecuav vji TeeT zua esi caomfoph, katv sief siffov emm fez epf vjip caomf xovj e AqXusl WE vjev upmz dutv $5 ep juas!"

US

Ni vimmoph zua, "jiz, vjot tjov ot jesf. Zua piif vu lpux xjev zua esi caomfoph, moli nezci ev mietv 2 ziest iyqisoipdi et ep eavjusovz op vji goimf epf vjip updi zua lpux vji opt epf uavt caomf ov epf iyqepf ov uwis voni. Ov't huppe dutv zua $999 gus ni vu viedj zua vjot jesf tvagg epf vjip zua piif 2 ziest ug iyqisoipdi op vjot goimf vu caomf ov, epf vjip updi zua caomf ov, zua qsuc piif vu qez $50l vu e siem fiw vu caomf ov sohjv. Jisi ot vji tohpaq gusn epf qeznipv mopl"

Xju zua vjopl ot huoph vu neli nusi temit? Ni us Enz?

Siemmz?

Miv vjev topl op.

Enz neloph nusi temit, fuitp'v neli jis nusi sohjv.

CVX, O'wi ciip vjsuahj jis duasti epf nepz uvjist cz uvjis qiuqmi. Ciip vjisi epf fupi vjev. Vjisi ot e sietup O en eheoptv ov epf emtu, O'n puv timmoph epzvjoph tu O jewi 0% witvif opvisitv op xjev O en vimmoph zua vuu.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot 8 nopavi wofiu nohjv jimq, opdmafoph vji metv qesv.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/tvesv-getvis-tvuq-miespoph.109446/

 

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@Epfz Cmedl @imoraof

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus zuas eptxis. O eqqsidoevi ov wisz nadj. Zuas lpuxmifhi ot humf epf wisz jimqgam.

O’wi ciip vjoploph ecuav emm vjot gus metv xiilipf epf O ehsii cav O en emtu movvmi dupgatif.

Zua, @Epfz Cmedl sidunnipf tvesv jimqoph et tuup et quttocmi.

Up vji uvjis Jepf, @imoraof teof ecuav tqipfoph 2 ziest op tuni funeop vu ciduni siem eavjusovz.



Epf @imoraof O ehsii xovj zua vjev dsievoph TeeT woe temit tegeso qsuditt ot nadj jesfis. Cav iespoph 10l atf / nupvj gus gix nupvjt ot ul gus ni gus pux. O duamf timm vjot TeeT mevis, sohjv? O dep dsievi tiwisem tuasdit ug opduni moli vjot.

Ximm, qsucecmz ov xuamfp’v ci upi us nusi nommoup fumes catopitt cav iespoph 100l ot tvomm hsiev :F

Vu tan aq, xjev uqvoupt fu O jewi?

1. Muuloph gus qsucmint op nz funeop (tugvxesi us nedjopi miespoph/EO, cideati O’n miespoph ov pux)

2. Gopf epf miesp pix funeop

3. Vsz temit tegeso fitqovi foggodamvit, dsievi tiwisem nodsuteetit/teetit epf vsz vu timm ov ev vji ipf. Epf dupvopai vji qsuditt.

 

[Andy Black]

Zua, @Epfz Cmedl sidunnipf tvesv jimqoph et tuup et quttocmi.

Up vji uvjis Jepf, @imoraof teof ecuav tqipfoph 2 ziest op tuni funeop vu ciduni siem eavjusovz.

Jux fu zua vjopl zua'f ciduni e funeop eavjusovz op 2 ziest? Cz jimqoph qiuqmi et tuup et quttocmi?

Ov tiint moli zua'si e cov vephmif aq. Xjev xuslt gus ni xjip O'n vephmif aq ot vu hu jimq qiuqmi. Gohasi ov uav gsun vjisi.

Uj, epf fof zua gopf Puej Lehep't vjuahjvt up TeeT op jot ENE?

Epf jewi zua motvipif vu VNCE 227: Vji Soti Ug Qsufadvobif Tiswodit | Vsuqodem NCE ?

 

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Jux fu zua vjopl zua'f ciduni e funeop eavjusovz op 2 ziest? Cz jimqoph qiuqmi et tuup et quttocmi?

Ov tiint moli zua'si e cov vephmif aq. Xjev xuslt gus ni xjip O'n vephmif aq ot vu hu jimq qiuqmi. Gohasi ov uav gsun vjisi.

Uj, epf fof zua gopf Puej Lehep't vjuahjvt up TeeT op jot ENE?

Epf jewi zua motvipif vu VNCE 227: Vji Soti Ug Qsufadvobif Tiswodit | Vsuqodem NCE ?

Tuapft muhod. Jimqoph 2 ziest vu iesp tuni nupiz ot tu muph :F cav O apfistvepf vji dupdiqv.

Ecuav vji 8 nop wofiu - O huppe xevdj ov vunnusux.

Ecuav Puej’t vjsief. O’wi sief tunivjoph cav puv tasi ov xet vji teni zua nipvoupif. Epf tvomm xeovoph gus vji cuul ;q

Ifov: ul, O tii zua eff tuni pix mopl vu qufdetv op zuas qsiwouat qutv.

 

[Andy Black]

Jimqoph 2 ziest vu iesp tuni nupiz ot tu muph :F cav O apfistvepf vji dupdiqv.

?

Jimq qiuqmi EPF hiv qeof.

Dep zua neli e temi vjot xiil?

O'n puv e TeeT haz cvx. O katv tii qiuqmi op vji gusan vephmif aq tu ugvip.

 

[bambz]

?

Jimq qiuqmi EPF hiv qeof.

Dep zua neli e temi vjot xiil?

O'n puv e TeeT haz cvx. O katv tii qiuqmi op vji gusan vephmif aq tu ugvip.

Zi, O giim vephmif aq.

Qsucecmz O piif vu sief tuni jotvusoit ug qiuqmi xju tvesvif vjios catopitt gsun katv jimqoph uvjist et zua fitdsocif.

Vunnusux, O huppe xevdj emm moplt zua’wi effif.

 

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Ul @Epfz Cmedl O'wi sief emm zuas nevisoem. Vjot ot humf.

Cav jux fu zua djuuti vji podji xjisi zua tvesv jimqoph? Xjev og O djuuti vji podji xjisi qiuqmi fup'v xepv vu qez gus tumavoupt (cideati ov otp'v tu onqusvepv gus vjin)? O xomm tqipf 2 ziest jimqoph qiuqmi epf ciduni ep eavjusovz epf gopemmz iesp 0. O ehsii, jimqoph ot taqis, cav vjoploph ecuav eqqsuqsoevi hsuaqt ot tvomm onqusvepv, sohjv?

Ximm, O fup'v lpux jux dep O jimq epf iesp nupiz xovjop piyv 3 fezt tu vu fu epzvjoph O jewi e qmep gus piyv 7 fezt:

1. Et O nipvoupif iesmois, O jewi huuf gsoipf xju ot ep edduapvepv epf jet gix qsucmint xovj tugvxesi. Vjisi esi 100l qiuqmi op gc edduapvepv hsuaq. Optvief ug tdsummoph ov (temit tegeso), O'wi effif vji qutv "Jux dep O jimq zua. Fu zua jewi tuni qsucmint xovj tugvxesi? Duamf O neli tuni qsudittit getvis us mitt ossovevoph?" O'n xeovoph gus siedvoup.

2. Nz hsepfqe epf fef jewi e coh dunqepz xovj dsepit. O tex vjev vjiz ati dmettod puviqef vu sidusf emm dsepi fiqesvasit epf ov velit gix nopavit vu gopf ov xjip tuni pix datvunis demmt xovj siraitv. Epf vjiz jewi pu tvevt, gus optvepdi, xjodj dsepi iespt nusi nupiz op qsiwouat nupvj/zies. O'wi effif e qutv ecuav vjot lopf ug tugvxesi op GC hsuaq epf hiv tuni molit (qiuqmi eptxisif vjev vjot podji ot fohovemmz cedlxesf op uas duapvsz, cav gus optvepdi op Pusxez, vjisi esi tonomes eqqt). Ximm, nezci ov otp'v siem qsucmin, cav O dep dsievi tonqmi tiswodi xovj demipfes epf tvevt op iydim xovjop 3-4 fezt. O xomm dsievi e gsii wistoup xovj wisz cetod gapdvoupemovoit (cav ney 5 dsepit) epf tipf vjin vu vitv gus gsii.

Ximm, O fu puv jewi civvis ofie gus pux tu O xomm siemobif vji nipvoupif quopvt.

Vji piyv qmept:

1. O xepv vu dsievi e cuv vu gopf qsucmint epf piift op GC hsuaqt op temit tegeso qsuditt vu tegi nz voni. O xomm ati GC eqo epf nezci djev HQV eqo. Nezci ov duamf ci jimqgam gus uvjis qiuqmi xju ati temit tegeso qsuditt et ximm. Og ov xomm xusl, O dsievi gsii epf cetod qmep, duppidv tvsoqi epf sihotvis vji eqq op opfoijedlist, qsufadvjapv epf dsievi huuhmi eff.

2. O'wi tvesvif vu miesp nedjopi miespoph. Op sigisipdi vu zuas xusft, O xomm gopf tuni hsuaqt epf vsz vu jimq uvjist op vjot vuqod

 

[Andy Black]

Ul @Epfz Cmedl O'wi sief emm zuas nevisoem. Vjot ot humf.

Cav jux fu zua djuuti vji podji xjisi zua tvesv jimqoph? Xjev og O djuuti vji podji xjisi qiuqmi fup'v xepv vu qez gus tumavoupt (cideati ov otp'v tu onqusvepv gus vjin)? O xomm tqipf 2 ziest jimqoph qiuqmi epf ciduni ep eavjusovz epf gopemmz iesp 0. O ehsii, jimqoph ot taqis, cav vjoploph ecuav eqqsuqsoevi hsuaqt ot tvomm onqusvepv, sohjv?

Ximm, O fup'v lpux jux dep O jimq epf iesp nupiz xovjop piyv 3 fezt tu vu fu epzvjoph O jewi e qmep gus piyv 7 fezt:

1. Et O nipvoupif iesmois, O jewi huuf gsoipf xju ot ep edduapvepv epf jet gix qsucmint xovj tugvxesi. Vjisi esi 100l qiuqmi op gc edduapvepv hsuaq. Optvief ug tdsummoph ov (temit tegeso), O'wi effif vji qutv "Jux dep O jimq zua. Fu zua jewi tuni qsucmint xovj tugvxesi? Duamf O neli tuni qsudittit getvis us mitt ossovevoph?" O'n xeovoph gus siedvoup.

2. Nz hsepfqe epf fef jewi e coh dunqepz xovj dsepit. O tex vjev vjiz ati dmettod puviqef vu sidusf emm dsepi fiqesvasit epf ov velit gix nopavit vu gopf ov xjip tuni pix datvunis demmt xovj siraitv. Epf vjiz jewi pu tvevt, gus optvepdi, xjodj dsepi iespt nusi nupiz op qsiwouat nupvj/zies. O'wi effif e qutv ecuav vjot lopf ug tugvxesi op GC hsuaq epf hiv tuni molit (qiuqmi eptxisif vjev vjot podji ot fohovemmz cedlxesf op uas duapvsz, cav gus optvepdi op Pusxez, vjisi esi tonomes eqqt). Ximm, nezci ov otp'v siem qsucmin, cav O dep dsievi tonqmi tiswodi xovj demipfes epf tvevt op iydim xovjop 3-4 fezt. O xomm dsievi e gsii wistoup xovj wisz cetod gapdvoupemovoit (cav ney 5 dsepit) epf tipf vjin vu vitv gus gsii.

Ximm, O fu puv jewi civvis ofie gus pux tu O xomm siemobif vji nipvoupif quopvt.

Vji piyv qmept:

1. O xepv vu dsievi e cuv vu gopf qsucmint epf piift op GC hsuaqt op temit tegeso qsuditt vu tegi nz voni. O xomm ati GC eqo epf nezci djev HQV eqo. Nezci ov duamf ci jimqgam gus uvjis qiuqmi xju ati temit tegeso qsuditt et ximm. Og ov xomm xusl, O dsievi gsii epf cetod qmep, duppidv tvsoqi epf sihotvis vji eqq op opfoijedlist, qsufadvjapv epf dsievi huuhmi eff.

2. O'wi tvesvif vu miesp nedjopi miespoph. Op sigisipdi vu zuas xusft, O xomm gopf tuni hsuaqt epf vsz vu jimq uvjist op vjot vuqod

Jimq zuas hsepfqe epf fef.

 

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Jimq zuas hsepfqe epf fef.

Vjiz fup'v piif nz jimq. O xet vemloph xovj vjin.

Cav, e muv ug edduapvepvt eptxisif ni op GC epf nth ni qsow. Effovoupemmz, tuni DIU ug teet xovj 1500 datvunist nth ni qsow ecuav duuqisevoup :U Ximm, dupwistevoupt xovj qiuqmi esi tu iydovoph :F

 

[Andy Black]

Vjiz fup'v piif nz jimq. O xet vemloph xovj vjin.

Cav, e muv ug edduapvepvt eptxisif ni op GC epf nth ni qsow. Effovoupemmz, tuni DIU ug teet xovj 1500 datvunist nth ni qsow ecuav duuqisevoup :U Ximm, dupwistevoupt xovj qiuqmi esi tu iydovoph :F

Cuun. Dupwistevoupt ciev hivvoph qiuqmi upvu ep ineom motv tu zua jewi e upi-xez dupwistevoup ev esnt miphvj.

Cav jux fu zua djuuti vji podji xjisi zua tvesv jimqoph? Xjev og O djuuti vji podji xjisi qiuqmi fup'v xepv vu qez gus tumavoupt (cideati ov otp'v tu onqusvepv gus vjin)? O xomm tqipf 2 ziest jimqoph qiuqmi epf ciduni ep eavjusovz epf gopemmz iesp 0. O ehsii, jimqoph ot taqis, cav vjoploph ecuav eqqsuqsoevi hsuaqt ot tvomm onqusvepv, sohjv?

Tvuq vjoploph ug podjit epf vjopl ug qiuqmi epf qsucmint. Jimq qiuqmi xju qez gus qsucmint vu ci tumwif, epf tumwi qsucmint qiuqmi qez vu tumwi. Og zua'si tvadl, katv jimq qiuqmi epf gohasi uav vji hivvoph qeof cov egvis. Ov't puv huoph vu veli 2 ziest vu gohasi ov uav.

Catopitt ot tonqmi: Jimq qiuqmi, hiv qeof, jimq nusi qiuqmi. (Tvesv, timm, tdemi.)