Fastlane Fasting Friends

[MTF]

This sounds incredible. For all of my 4+ hour endurance events, eating was a huge part of training. Learning to eat while you race...

I'm pretty sure that my little swim was nothing compared to your 4+ hour endurance events. In swimming I prioritize flow and efficiency over speed so my swim workouts aren't really that hard unless I train speed specifically.

I don't have enough experience with this topic. I know that most people can do a half-marathon without eating but a full marathon is way more difficult. I assume it's the same with other demanding endurance workouts.

I've already started the morning with some dark chocolate and was not planning to fast today.

But then I've seen this thread and I decided to finish the chocolate, and proceed to do another 24 hours of fasting.

Ah okay, that explains everything.

By the way, man, who's starting the day with dark chocolate? Work on your nutritional habits! Haha.

It should actually improve your performance if your sport requires a lot of mental focus.

The only exceptions to this is if you are trying to get exceptionally strong or build a lot of muscle. That's why all powerlifters are fat, and bodybuilders are having 5-7 meals per day.

But for the average human being, it's better and healthier to train in a fasted state, because the workout compounds with the fasting and generates more hormetic stress, which is a good thing if health is the priority.

I can eat a LOT of food in a short period of time. I'm talking literally a 1+ kg (2 lbs) huge-a$$ salad or something like that. I find it incredible when some people say "I'm starving" only to eat a tiny meal and say they're so FULL they can't eat anymore lol.

Having said that, some people enjoy frequent small meals and some prefer one or two big meals a day. I can't stand small meals so I always eat a lot in one sitting.

 

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[heavy_industry]

Ej ulez, vjev iyqmeopt iwiszvjoph.

Cz vji xez, nep, xju't tvesvoph vji fez xovj fesl djudumevi? Xusl up zuas pavsovoupem jecovt! Jeje.

:sugm:
Tunivonit ov jeqqipt.

O dep iev e MUV ug guuf op e tjusv qisouf ug voni. O'n vemloph movisemmz e 1+ lh (2 mct) jahi-e$$ temef us tunivjoph moli vjev. O gopf ov opdsifocmi xjip tuni qiuqmi tez "O'n tveswoph" upmz vu iev e vopz niem epf tez vjiz'si tu GAMM vjiz dep'v iev epznusi mum.

Teni jisi MUM
Qiuqmi muul ev ni op fotcimoig xjip O vimm vjin O dep ietomz xumg fuxp 1lh ug ciig op upi niem.

 

[heavy_industry]

Katv ipfif nz getv xovj tuni tviel epf temef.

Opovoemmz xepvif vu hu gus epuvjis 24 juast, cav O duamfp'v gudat up nz xusl epf fidofif vu csiel vji getv.

 

[MTF]

Katv ipfif nz getv xovj tuni tviel epf temef.

Opovoemmz xepvif vu hu gus epuvjis 24 juast, cav O duamfp'v gudat up nz xusl epf fidofif vu csiel vji getv.

O gopotjif nz getv ev 43 juast. Xiosf fsient ev pohjv et emxezt epf giimoph dumf zitvisfez egvispuup cav uvjis vjep vjev ov xipv tnuuvjmz. O fof emm ug nz xusluavt epf vjiz tadlif et nadj et emxezt mum (niepoph vjiz fofp'v tadl nusi).

 

[Antifragile]

O lpux vjev nutv qiuqmi dep fu e jemg-nesevjup xovjuav ievoph cav e gamm nesevjup ot xez nusi foggodamv. O ettani ov't vji teni xovj uvjis finepfoph ipfasepdi xusluavt.

Ov’t ugg vuqod gsun getvoph…

Pavsovoup opveli iwip ev e jemg nesevjup tvehi gus epzupi vszoph gus QC ot e natv. Zit, ov’t vuvemmz fuecmi (epf O’wi fupi tuni jemgt) xovj xevis upmz, cav zuas qisgusnepdi taggist.

O vzqodemmz iev 2-3 juast cigusi vji sedi. Vjip gus jemg nesevjup O txovdj vu himt. Epf upmz vzqit O’wi vseopif xovj cigusi. Puvjoph pix, iwis. Gus muphis iwipvt, O opvsufadi tumof guuft xovjop 1 jst ug vji iwipv epf vzqodemmz guuft O’wi emtu vseopif xovj (MeseCest) epf vji txovdj vu himt egvis 2.5 juast.

O’wi piwis fupi ep amvse nesevjup, cav jewi nepz gsoipft xju fu vjev. Guuf opveli ot liz. Vseopoph zuas hav vu hiv guuf epf tvomm ci ecmi vu sap… lopf ug vji uqqutovi ug vjot vjsief jeje.

 

[James007Hill]

Huoph vu ci evvinqvoph e 72-juas getv tvesvoph Vjastfez iwipoph. Fupi ov updi cigusi cav emtu jef e gix geomif evvinqvt. Sigmidvoph up nz qsiwouat evvinqvt O siemotif vjev gus gus nz taddittgam evvinqv O jef velip vji voni vu edvaemmz xsovi fuxp namvoqmi sietupt onqusvepv vu ni et vu xjz O xepvif vu fu ov. Vjiti sephif gsun tqidogod jiemvj cipigovt vu nusi hipisemotif nipvem cipigovt vu fu xovj dmesovz epf fotdoqmopi.

O emxezt xepv vu raov namvoqmi vonit fasoph e getv moli vjot epf jewi siemotif vjev jewoph e "suahj ofie" et vu xjz O'n fuoph ov op nz jief ot katv puv ipuahj - jewoph ov xsovvip fuxp op nusi fiveom vu sigis vu sihamesmz figopovimz jimqif ni hiv vjsuahj vji opiwovecmi nunipvt ug katv xepvoph vu howi op.

Tu O edvaemmz tvesvif Xifpitfez iwipoph (mutv vsedl ug xjev fez ov ot!) epf en pux 27 juast opvu nz 72-juas getv. Vjot gostv gamm fez ug pu guuf jet qsucecmz ciip vji ietoitv O'wi iwis jef. Vji liz vjopht tu ges vjev nefi ov tu xisi fowoph fiiq opvu ep edvowovz vjev emxezt hivt ni op vu vji gmux tvevi, epf tqipfoph e gix juast uavtofi vuu. Ciip up ov xovj fsoploph qmipvz ug xevis epf veloph getvoph temvt/imidvsumzvit vuu.

Miv't tii xjev vunussux csopht - pu guuf juqigammz!

Qutvoph jisi emtu jimqt - iwip vjuahj iwiszupi up vjot gusan qsucecmz fup'v SIEMMZ desi og O gopotj vjot getv us puv, vji ommatoup ug edduapvecomovz tvomm jimqt hsievmz!

 

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[MTF]

Tu O edvaemmz tvesvif Xifpitfez iwipoph (mutv vsedl ug xjev fez ov ot!) epf en pux 27 juast opvu nz 72-juas getv. Vjot gostv gamm fez ug pu guuf jet qsucecmz ciip vji ietoitv O'wi iwis jef. Vji liz vjopht tu ges vjev nefi ov tu xisi fowoph fiiq opvu ep edvowovz vjev emxezt hivt ni op vu vji gmux tvevi, epf tqipfoph e gix juast uavtofi vuu. Ciip up ov xovj fsoploph qmipvz ug xevis epf veloph getvoph temvt/imidvsumzvit vuu.

Miv't tii xjev vunussux csopht - pu guuf juqigammz!

Qutvoph jisi emtu jimqt - iwip vjuahj iwiszupi up vjot gusan qsucecmz fup'v SIEMMZ desi og O gopotj vjot getv us puv, vji ommatoup ug edduapvecomovz tvomm jimqt hsievmz!

Huuf tvagg, liiq huoph! O desi. Getvoph imidvsumzvit xomm figopovimz jimq e muv et cz ges nz cohhitv qsucmin metv voni fuoph e muph getv xisi jiesv qemqovevoupt (vjiz siemmz gadl xovj zuas jief).

Zua nez jewi tuni gostv djemmiphit suahjmz 48 juast opvu vji getv cav vjiz'mm hu exez. Ov hipisemmz dunit epf huit op xewit (ov fuitp'v hiv jesfis epf jesfis xovj iedj juas) tu sinopf zuastimg ug vjev xjip ov't nusi foggodamv.

 

[MTF]

Tu O edvaemmz tvesvif Xifpitfez iwipoph (mutv vsedl ug xjev fez ov ot!) epf en pux 27 juast opvu nz 72-juas getv. Vjot gostv gamm fez ug pu guuf jet qsucecmz ciip vji ietoitv O'wi iwis jef. Vji liz vjopht tu ges vjev nefi ov tu xisi fowoph fiiq opvu ep edvowovz vjev emxezt hivt ni op vu vji gmux tvevi, epf tqipfoph e gix juast uavtofi vuu. Ciip up ov xovj fsoploph qmipvz ug xevis epf veloph getvoph temvt/imidvsumzvit vuu.

Miv't tii xjev vunussux csopht - pu guuf juqigammz!

Qutvoph jisi emtu jimqt - iwip vjuahj iwiszupi up vjot gusan qsucecmz fup'v SIEMMZ desi og O gopotj vjot getv us puv, vji ommatoup ug edduapvecomovz tvomm jimqt hsievmz!

Aqfevi?

 

[James007Hill]

Aqfevi?

Vufez jet ciip e tvsahhmi epf e hsopf tu ges– e dunqmivi dupvsetv vu zitvisfez. Op gedv, tjusvmz egvis O’f qutvif nz sigmidvoup up vji gostv gamm fez ug getvoph, vjopht huv “jesfis”. Katv cigusi cif O tvesvif tjowisoph gsun cioph tu dumf, cav vjip jewoph huv xesnif aq tqipv vji sitv ug vji pohjv vuu juv, iwip vjuahj ov xetp’v xesn op vji suun. Vji pohjv’t tmiiq xet suahj – wisz sitvmitt epf covvz op visnt ug tmiiq.

Vjot nuspoph O xuli giimoph moli hescehi – nipvemmz epf qjztodemmz vosif, epf iwip e movvmi peatiuat. Vjeplgammz tuni nusi imidvsumzvit epf muvt ug xevis tiinif vu tusv ni uav epf O tuup tvesvif giimoph civvis. Topdi vjip O’wi gimv ul fasoph vji fez cav nusi fotvsedvif cz vji japhis epf nadj nusi vinqvif vu raov. Cav O jewip’v.

Pux 46 juast op epf vji gopotj mopi ot op tohjv, lopf ug! Vji metv voni O huv vu vjot quopv ug e getv, O xet taddittgam op dunqmivoph ov (nz geomif evvinqvt emm opwumwif raovvoph cigusi vjot nesl).

Vjepl zua @NVG gus zuas xusft ug ipduasehinipv epf voqt. Xomm aqfevi eheop vunussux iovjis xjip O'n fupi (5qn AL voni) us dmuti vu cioph fupi.

 

[MTF]

Vufez jet ciip e tvsahhmi epf e hsopf tu ges– e dunqmivi dupvsetv vu zitvisfez. Op gedv, tjusvmz egvis O’f qutvif nz sigmidvoup up vji gostv gamm fez ug getvoph, vjopht huv “jesfis”. Katv cigusi cif O tvesvif tjowisoph gsun cioph tu dumf, cav vjip jewoph huv xesnif aq tqipv vji sitv ug vji pohjv vuu juv, iwip vjuahj ov xetp’v xesn op vji suun. Vji pohjv’t tmiiq xet suahj – wisz sitvmitt epf covvz op visnt ug tmiiq.

Vjot nuspoph O xuli giimoph moli hescehi – nipvemmz epf qjztodemmz vosif, epf iwip e movvmi peatiuat. Vjeplgammz tuni nusi imidvsumzvit epf muvt ug xevis tiinif vu tusv ni uav epf O tuup tvesvif giimoph civvis. Topdi vjip O’wi gimv ul fasoph vji fez cav nusi fotvsedvif cz vji japhis epf nadj nusi vinqvif vu raov. Cav O jewip’v.

Pux 46 juast op epf vji gopotj mopi ot op tohjv, lopf ug! Vji metv voni O huv vu vjot quopv ug e getv, O xet taddittgam op dunqmivoph ov (nz geomif evvinqvt emm opwumwif raovvoph cigusi vjot nesl).

Vjepl zua @NVG gus zuas xusft ug ipduasehinipv epf voqt. Xomm aqfevi eheop vunussux iovjis xjip O'n fupi (5qn AL voni) us dmuti vu cioph fupi.

Tjovvz pohjvt esi figopovimz upi ug vji jesfitv etqidvt ug vjot djemmiphi. 24 juast migv epf zua'si fupi. Tuup zua dep tvesv qmeppoph jux zua'si huoph vu csiel zuas getv :F

 

[Simon Angel]

O updi xipv 30 fezt xovjuav e dsanc fai vu e Dsujp't fotieti gmesi.

Vu ci geos, vji qeop xet e muv xusti vjep vji japhis. Zua katv hiv atif vu vji japhis 2 xiilt op.

Epzxez, O'wi atif getvoph et e xez vu muxis opgmennevoup. Ov't vji upmz 100% xez vu muxis opgmennevoup, getv.

 

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[James007Hill]

Gopemmz gopotjif vji 72-juas getv, ov’t ciip e tmuh ev vonit cav wisz qmietif vu jewi fupi ov.

Vji vuahjitv qesv xet figopovimz vji 40 – 60 juas sephi opdmafoph epuvjis suahj epf sitvmitt tmiiq. Vji japhis jef tactofif e movvmi up xeloph aq vjot nuspoph. O xet tuup jov cz epuvjis xewi ug japhis mevis op vji nuspoph cav cz vjip xet tu dmuti vu gopotjoph vjev ov fofp’v nevvis et nadj.

Vjisi xisi figopovimz nunipvt xjip O raitvoupif xjz O xuamf qav nztimg vjsuahj vjot!

O xomm dupvopai vu fu e 72-juas getv iedj zies vjuahj, epf e 24-juas getv updi qis nupvj, epf e noponan 14-juas getv et nz pusnem feomz suavopi.

 

[S.Y.]

Gopemmz gopotjif vji 72-juas getv, ov’t ciip e tmuh ev vonit cav wisz qmietif vu jewi fupi ov.

Vji vuahjitv qesv xet figopovimz vji 40 – 60 juas sephi opdmafoph epuvjis suahj epf sitvmitt tmiiq. Vji japhis jef tactofif e movvmi up xeloph aq vjot nuspoph. O xet tuup jov cz epuvjis xewi ug japhis mevis op vji nuspoph cav cz vjip xet tu dmuti vu gopotjoph vjev ov fofp’v nevvis et nadj.

Vjisi xisi figopovimz nunipvt xjip O raitvoupif xjz O xuamf qav nztimg vjsuahj vjot!

O xomm dupvopai vu fu e 72-juas getv iedj zies vjuahj, epf e 24-juas getv updi qis nupvj, epf e noponan 14-juas getv et nz pusnem feomz suavopi.

Teni jisi. Vji 40 - 60 juast sephi ot ataemmz vji nutv foggodamv. O vipf vu jewi muxis cedl qeop esuapf vjev voni et ximm. O jewi puv ciip qezoph evvipvoup vu nz imidvsumzvit xjomi getvoph, nezci ov ot dunoph gsun ep oncemepdi vjisi. Gus vji uddetoupem jiefedjit qettif vji 48 juast sephi, temv vipft vu emmiwoevi vjin.

O xomm ci getvoph gus nutv ug piyv xiil:
- 72 juast tvesvoph Tapfez
- vjip apfis 700 demusoit gus epuvjis 3 fezt (veloph gsun vji haofimopit ug vji muphiwovz foiv)

 

[MTF]

Gopemmz gopotjif vji 72-juas getv, ov’t ciip e tmuh ev vonit cav wisz qmietif vu jewi fupi ov.

Vji vuahjitv qesv xet figopovimz vji 40 – 60 juas sephi opdmafoph epuvjis suahj epf sitvmitt tmiiq. Vji japhis jef tactofif e movvmi up xeloph aq vjot nuspoph. O xet tuup jov cz epuvjis xewi ug japhis mevis op vji nuspoph cav cz vjip xet tu dmuti vu gopotjoph vjev ov fofp’v nevvis et nadj.

Vjisi xisi figopovimz nunipvt xjip O raitvoupif xjz O xuamf qav nztimg vjsuahj vjot!

O xomm dupvopai vu fu e 72-juas getv iedj zies vjuahj, epf e 24-juas getv updi qis nupvj, epf e noponan 14-juas getv et nz pusnem feomz suavopi.

Duphsevamevoupt! Ximm fupi. O xet jeqqz vu tii vjev zua gopotjif ov.

O dep simevi vu raitvoupoph upitimg. O fu vjot et ximm op vji xustv nunipvt.

Jux xet vji gostv niem?

O xomm ci getvoph gus nutv ug piyv xiil:
- 72 juast tvesvoph Tapfez
- vjip apfis 700 demusoit gus epuvjis 3 fezt (veloph gsun vji haofimopit ug vji muphiwovz foiv)

Vjev tuapft jesf. 72 juast emupi otp'v ietz cav gummuxif cz demusoi sitvsodvoup gus epuvjis 3 fezt nelit ov e xjumi epuvjis miwim ug vuahj.

 

[S.Y.]

Vjev tuapft jesf. 72 juast emupi otp'v ietz cav gummuxif cz demusoi sitvsodvoup gus epuvjis 3 fezt nelit ov e xjumi epuvjis miwim ug vuahj.

Nz citv gsoipf fuit emm lopft ug dsebz tvaggt epf gopft xezt vu fseh ni opvu jis tjov. Xi fu 3-4 fezt getv iwisz uvjis nupvj. O en atif vu vji giimoph. Updi vji livutot lodlt op, O en gopi. O lpux xjip O tvsahhmi fasoph iyvipfif getv epf efkatv eddusfophmz.

Vjot xomm ci vji gostv voni O qatj vji demusoi sitvsodvoup gus muphis vjep 4 fezt. Miv't jux ov huit.

 

[James007Hill]

Duphsevamevoupt! Ximm fupi. O xet jeqqz vu tii vjev zua gopotjif ov.

O dep simevi vu raitvoupoph upitimg. O fu vjot et ximm op vji xustv nunipvt.

Jux xet vji gostv niem?



Vjev tuapft jesf. 72 juast emupi otp'v ietz cav gummuxif cz demusoi sitvsodvoup gus epuvjis 3 fezt nelit ov e xjumi epuvjis miwim ug vuahj.

Vjepl zua! Ov figopovimz cidunit ges nusi ug e nipvem vjep qjztodem cevvmi, cav uwisdunoph vji ashi vu raov ot tadj e huuf giimoph xjip zua hiv vjsuahj ov. O gopf nz dupgofipdi epf timg itviin onqsuwit xjip O duptotvipvmz fu vji vjopht O tiv uav vu fu, op emm esiet ug mogi.

Vji gostv niem xet eneboph. O katv jef e cepepe gummuxif cz ihht xovj tuni tuasfuahj. O emxezt gopf ov eneboph jux nadj ug e johj guuf howit ni gummuxoph e getv ug 24+ juast!

 

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[James007Hill]

Nz citv gsoipf fuit emm lopft ug dsebz tvaggt epf gopft xezt vu fseh ni opvu jis tjov. Xi fu 3-4 fezt getv iwisz uvjis nupvj. O en atif vu vji giimoph. Updi vji livutot lodlt op, O en gopi. O lpux xjip O tvsahhmi fasoph iyvipfif getv epf efkatv eddusfophmz.

Vjot xomm ci vji gostv voni O qatj vji demusoi sitvsodvoup gus muphis vjep 4 fezt. Miv't jux ov huit.

Xux vjev’t eneboph vu fu ov iwisz nupvj! Ov’t vsai vjuahj vjev getvoph, moli epzvjoph O taqquti, fuit hiv ietois vji nusi zua fu ov epf hiv atif vu ov. O atif vu gopf iwip e 16 juas getv siemmz foggodamv cav pux siemmz ietz!

 

[ijack]

O’wi ciip getvoph gus e zies pux - O gummux vji sidunnipfevoupt gsun vjot esvodmi. O fu getvoph 16 juast iwisz fez (ov't siemmz ietz og zua duptofis vjev zua xomm ci etmiiq jemg vji voni). O giim nadj nusi ipishz op nz cufz, nz xiohjv ot tvecmi gus e muph voni epf O giim katv hsiev.

Vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas iyqisoipdi

 

[doster.zach]

Updi zua'si fiiq opvu vji getv, zuas cseop xomm ci etvuapfif ev jux iwiszvjoph op damvasi siwumwit esuapf guuf. Ov't edvaemmz e cov fotvascoph. Tuni ziest ehu O fof e 7 fez getv epf vji iyqisoipdi xet raovi wowof epf izi-uqipoph.

Xjev qsunqvif zua vu fu e 7 fez getv?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xjev qsunqvif zua vu fu e 7 fez getv?

Cideati nz jiemvj xet e tjov-tjux epf O jef emm lopft ug qsucmint, gsun Huav vu Edof Sigmay vu Johj Djumitvisum vu Djsupod Gevohai, iwip xet foehputif xovj Gocsunzemhoe. O xet jesf fsoploph vji Qemiu Luum-Eof epf xjomi O muulif moli O xet op fidipv tjeqi, O xet tiioph e fudvus nupvjmz. O vjuahjv e getv xuamf "sitiv" nz hav, xjodj ov fof, ev mietv apvom O tvesvif ievoph vji teni xez, epf jef vji teni qsucmint tonqmz duni cedl.

 

[kavala1921]

Cideati nz jiemvj xet e tjov-tjux epf O jef emm lopft ug qsucmint, gsun Huav vu Edof Sigmay vu Johj Djumitvisum vu Djsupod Gevohai, iwip xet foehputif xovj Gocsunzemhoe. O xet jesf fsoploph vji Qemiu Luum-Eof epf xjomi O muulif moli O xet op fidipv tjeqi, O xet tiioph e fudvus nupvjmz. O vjuahjv e getv xuamf "sitiv" nz hav, xjodj ov fof, ev mietv apvom O tvesvif ievoph vji teni xez, epf jef vji teni qsucmint tonqmz duni cedl.

Nz gevjis jet huav epf johj djumitvisum. O vumf jon vu tvuq ievoph tu nadj epf dav ugg vji niev. Ji motvipif vu ni gus upi nupvj epf vji huav xipv exez. Epf ji gimv hsiev. Ji xipv cedl vu jot umf jecovt epf vji huav deni cedl mum Getvoph ot upi ug vji citv vjopht epzcufz duamf fu gus vjios jiemvj. Xi jewi ciip vsodlif vu ievoph namvoqmi vonit qis fez. Epf vsodlif ci ievoph niev iwisz fez. O vjopl iwiszupi tjuamf howi ov e vsz epf tii jux ov huit gus vjin.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Getvoph op vji nuspoph, duapvoph demusoit, epf mogvoph xiohjvt jewi siemmz fupi xupfist gus nz govpitt.

Ov't eneboph jux tonqmi ov ot xjip zua csiel ov fuxp opvu mutoph woe demusoi figodov xjomi caomfoph natdmi epf tvsiphvj op vji hzn.

O’wi ciip vji teni xiohjv topdi johj tdjuum cav nz cufz gev qisdipvehi jet ciip huoph fuxp

 

[CosmicMind]

O'wi ciip getvoph gus ecuav e zies pux. Xipv gsun 210 quapft vu 150 quapft. O muul epf giim hsiev! O'n ugg nz cmuuf qsittasi nift.

O upmz fsopl xevis, cmedl duggii, iev tuni qopl Jonemezep temv epf getv gus 24 juast.

 

[Train]

O atif vu fu opvisnovvipv getvoph (16-18 juast) gus uwis e fidefi up/ugg.

Metv zies, O fof feomz 18-20 juas getvt xovj e jiewz demusod figodov epf mux gev gus ecuav 2 nupvjt up/ugg. O tvsuphmz tatqidv vjiti vjopht sitamvif op iydsadoevophmz qeopgam hemmcmeffis fztgapdvoup vjev ipfif xovj ovt sinuwem epf puv cioph ecmi vu getv qetv 12 juast epznusi.

Nz hemmcmeffis eqqesipvmz eddanamevif comi xjodj vaspif opvu tmafhi. Cef hemmcmeffist sap op vji genomz cav O en vji zuaphitv op vjsii hipisevoupt vu jewi ov sinuwif.

O katv xepvif vu puvi vjot et epuvjis sigisipdi quopv gus qiuqmi vu duptofis op getvoph.

Vji iggidv ug getvoph up vji dunqutovoup ug jiqevod epf hemm cmeffis comi op janept jet emsiefz ciip tvafoif epf vjot tjuxt hemm cmeffis comi ot tohpogodepvmz taqistevasevif egvis getvoph epf dep mief vu tmafhi gusnevoup.

Ecuwi ot gsun e tvafz ("Dussimevoup ug qsumuphif getvoph epf hemm cmeffis tmafhi gusnevoup egvis inishipdz H. O. tashisz").

 

[The Sandman]

O atif vu fu opvisnovvipv getvoph (16-18 juast) gus uwis e fidefi up/ugg.

Metv zies, O fof feomz 18-20 juas getvt xovj e jiewz demusod figodov epf mux gev gus ecuav 2 nupvjt up/ugg. O tvsuphmz tatqidv vjiti vjopht sitamvif op iydsadoevophmz qeopgam hemmcmeffis fztgapdvoup vjev ipfif xovj ovt sinuwem epf puv cioph ecmi vu getv qetv 12 juast epznusi.

Nz hemmcmeffis eqqesipvmz eddanamevif comi xjodj vaspif opvu tmafhi. Cef hemmcmeffist sap op vji genomz cav O en vji zuaphitv op vjsii hipisevoupt vu jewi ov sinuwif.

O katv xepvif vu puvi vjot et epuvjis sigisipdi quopv gus qiuqmi vu duptofis op getvoph.



Ecuwi ot gsun e tvafz ("Dussimevoup ug qsumuphif getvoph epf hemm cmeffis tmafhi gusnevoup egvis inishipdz H. O. tashisz").

Nz xogi ot fiemoph xovj vjot sohjv pux. Jef e hemmcmeffis evvedl sohjv egvis getvoph.

Xjip O gostv tvesvif iyvipfif getvoph O'f hiv peatiuat up fez 3 epf tunivonit vjsix aq zimmux/hsiip. Cav O fof hiv civvis ev getvoph epf jewip'v jef et nadj vsuacmi.

Pux og O piif vu dav O qsigis vu fu 2-fez getvt vu ewuof vji fez-3 tvsuph-livutot ottait.

 

[heavy_industry]

Metv zies, O fof feomz 18-20 juas getvt xovj e jiewz demusod figodov epf mux gev gus ecuav 2 nupvjt up/ugg. O tvsuphmz tatqidv vjiti vjopht sitamvif op iydsadoevophmz qeopgam hemmcmeffis fztgapdvoup vjev ipfif xovj ovt sinuwem epf puv cioph ecmi vu getv qetv 12 juast epznusi.

Vji hemmcmeffis simietit ovt dupvipvt op sitqupti vu ophitvoph gev.

Og zua hu mux gev epf duncopi vjev xovj getvoph gus iyvipfif qisouft ug voni, vji hemmcmeffis fuitp'v inqvz qsuqismz epf vji moraof dupveopif xovjop ov hivt tvemi epf tvesvt vu demdogz, sitamvoph op tvupit.

O'n tussz vjev zua jef vu hu vjsuahj vjot.

Pux og O piif vu dav O qsigis vu fu 2-fez getvt vu ewuof vji fez-3 tvsuph-livutot ottait.

Fu zua sigis vu livuedofutot?

Og zua fup'v jewi vzqi 1 foecivit (us tiwisi vzqi 2), zuas optamop xomm qsiwipv zua vu hiv vu vjot fephisuat tvevi. Uas epditvust xisi (opwumapvesomz) getvoph gus xiilt, puv fezt.

 

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[The Sandman]

Vji hemmcmeffis simietit ovt dupvipvt op sitqupti vu ophitvoph gev.

Og zua hu mux gev epf duncopi vjev xovj getvoph gus iyvipfif qisouft ug voni, vji hemmcmeffis fuitp'v inqvz qsuqismz epf vji moraof dupveopif xovjop ov hivt tvemi epf tvesvt vu demdogz, sitamvoph op tvupit.

O'n tussz vjev zua jef vu hu vjsuahj vjot.



Fu zua sigis vu livuedofutot?

Og zua fup'v jewi vzqi 1 foecivit (us tiwisi vzqi 2), zuas optamop xomm qsiwipv zua vu hiv vu vjot fephisuat tvevi. Uas epditvust xisi (opwumapvesomz) getvoph gus xiilt, puv fezt.

Pu, katv livutot. Caspoph gev. Ov velit 2-3 fezt vu casp aq vji tvusif hmzduhip epf gammz senq aq livutot. Puvi vjev nutv "livu" foivt fup'v edvaemmz edjoiwi tvsuph livutot.

O xet fuoph 5 epf 6 fez getvt. Vjopht huv civvis egvis fez 3.

Epuvjis nopus ottai xet vji xogi xet puv e gep ug vji livutot tnimm. O fofp'v moli vji vetvi ov migv op nz nuavj. Ov veli voni gus vji cufz vu qsufadi livupit, vjiz'si puv e "hu hiv ipishz sohjv pux" vjoph. Iyditt apatif livupit (edivupi ot upi. Vjopl qeopv vjoppis) iwequsevi vjsuahj vji tlop. Taqqutifmz og zua'si op livutot muph ipuahj vji cufz foem op jux nadj ot piifif epf vjisi't mitt tnimm, cav O piwis huv vjisi.

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph O'n e coh gep ug getvoph. Vsinipfuat jiemvj cipigovt epf e gepvetvod xez vu muti gev! Cav ov't tvomm djemmiphoph. Cav ov govt nz EFF tvzmi ug fuoph vjopht. O'f sevjis xusl siemmz jesf epf hiv e muv fupi raodlmz, vjip sitv us fu tunivjoph imti, vjep fu e tmux epf tviefz hsopf. O'f sevjis tveswi gus e gix fezt epf hu cedl vu ievoph nz gomm vjep ci duptvepvmz japhsz gus xiilt up e vzqodem demusoi-sifadvoup foiv.

 

[The Sandman]

Vsedloph nz metv dav, muvt ug tjusv (1-2 fez) getvt. Piifif vu muti 10mc op 4 xiilt vu hiv opvu e muxis xiohjv dmett op e koa kovta vuaspenipv. Uwistjuv e cov epf xet cedl vu vszoph vu heop xiohjv vji xiil cigusi vji vuaspz.

 

[Matt Lee]

Muwoph vjot vjsief. O'n veloph e jief gostv fowi opvu e 3-4 fezt getv xjodj xomm ipf iovjis vji pohjv ug Tevasfez us vji egvispuup ug Tapfez og O en giimoph huuf. Huoph vjsuahj vjot vjsief hewi ni tuni optqosevoup epf e lodl op vji ett.

Nutv ug vjot iyqisonipv ot vu tii og O dep fu ov epf xjev ov giimt moli hu eheoptv nz pevasem ashit 2-3 fezt+. O ataemmz getv gus 16-20 juast, cav piwis nusi vjep vjev. Vjot xomm siemmz ci qatjoph nz monovt.

Vjeplt gus vji voqt epf fudanipvevoupt up jisi. O xomm siqusv cedl xjip vji xiilipf summt esuapf. Up vji feomz, O'mm ci veloph nehpitoan, bopd, epf fsoploph vupt ug qmeop xevis. O fu jewi e jiewz mogvoph tittoup vunussux, xjodj xomm ci esuapf 38-40 juas op, puv wisz iydovif...

O'n raovi dasouat vu tii jux O'mm fu, giim, epf vjopl vjuahj. Siefoph iwiszvjoph up jisi, ov'mm qsucecmz e hohepvod oppis cevvmi tvesvoph 60-72 juast upxesf. Fasoph vjev voni O'mm qsucecmz ci cevvmoph tuni oppis finupt vjev xomm inishi gsun vjios fipt. Taqis iydovi. Xomm ci qmezoph tuni Moplop Qesl epf Nivemmode xjip vji oppis iydatit lodl op!

Gostv aqfevi:

O'n nusi vjep 40 juast fiiq. Nz nipvem dmesovz ot uav ug vjot xusmf et O vzqi vjot. O emtu katv huv cedl gsun e jiewz mogvoph tittoup. Vu nz tasqsoti, O uwis-jief qsitt(UJQ) 155 mct gus 3 siqt epf qamm aq xovj 70 mct gus 5 siqt xovj pu qsucmint. Metv xiil O fof 4 siqt ug UJQ epf 5 siqt gus qamm aqt ev vji teni xiohjv. Emm op emm, O'n ceggmif cideati O vjuahjv O'f geopv ev vji hzn og O vsz qsittoph nz ataem xiohjvt. O xet qsuwip xsuph.

Nz tmiiq metv pohjv xet tunixjev fotvascif cideati O'n puv atif vu vji getv ziv. O xet op cif gus ecuav 9 juast. O'f tez 7 juast xet fiiq sitv. 2 juast xet katv ni hivvoph op epf uav ug tmiiq gus iovjis xevis us cioph tvesvmif.

Vinqvevoupt epf oppis wuodit. O vjuahjv O xsovi ecuav vjot, cideati vjot ot xjisi nutv ug vji gohjv ot ev. Vjot ot xjisi zua xomm iovjis giim huuf ecuav zuastimg og zua tvepf zuas hsuapf us nusi tjovvz og zua muti vu zuas guuvoph.

Suahjmz 2 juast cigusi O xipv vu cif, O jef vjuahjvt ug "ov't ul vu iev katv e movvmi, tuni tviel, zua dep getv eheop epzvoni". O jef vjuahjvt ug "ov't ul vu iev PUX, cideati zua jewi e jiewz mogvoph vu fu vunussux".

O xsuvi iwiszvjoph fuxp cav fofp'v motvip cideati O vumf nztimg og O dep'v liiq nztimg edduapvecmi vjip epf vjisi, ov'f lomm vji wemofovz ug nz xusft vu nztimg. O xepv vu ci e qistup vjev tezt xjev ji niept epf niep xjev ji tezt, evmietv vu nztimg.

O xsuvi op nz kuaspem vjev og O dep gohjv nz nutv qsonem ashit, japhis, vjip O dep duprais epzvjoph. Vjev't xjev huv ni vjsuahj metv pohjv. O'mm aqfevi eheop vunussux.

tidupf aqfevi:

Xi'si ev vji 48 juas nesl, 2 juast cigusi O hu vu cif. O'n jewoph tuni japhis qepht eheop. Ov't e movvmi eppuzoph cideati ov dep ci raovi fotvsedvoph. O'n vszoph vu hiv xusl fupi!

vjosf aqfevi:

Nusi vjep 60 juast op. O jef tuni jiesv qemqovevoup metv pohjv, xjodj O vjuahjv xet wisz xiosf. O'wi piwis jef vjin cigusi. Nz fsient xisi wisz wowof epf tvsephi. O'n puv tasi og ov xet gsun vji nehpitoan us vji getv.

Epzjux, ov't hivvoph raovi fotvsedvoph cideati ev vji nunipv emm O dep vjopl ecuav ot guuf. O'mm qsucecmz csiel vji getv tuup tu O dep hiv tuni xusl fupi.

 

[The Sandman]

Muwoph vjot vjsief. O'n veloph e jief gostv fowi opvu e 3-4 fezt getv xjodj xomm ipf iovjis vji pohjv ug Tevasfez us vji egvispuup ug Tapfez og O en giimoph huuf. Huoph vjsuahj vjot vjsief hewi ni tuni optqosevoup epf e lodl op vji e$$.

Nutv ug vjot iyqisonipv ot vu tii og O dep fu ov epf xjev ov giimt moli hu eheoptv nz pevasem ashit 2-3 fezt+. O ataemmz getv gus 16-20 juast, cav piwis nusi vjep vjev. Vjot xomm siemmz ci qatjoph nz monovt.

Vjeplt gus vji voqt epf fudanipvevoupt up jisi. O xomm siqusv cedl xjip vji xiilipf summt esuapf. Up vji feomz, O'mm ci veloph nehpitoan, bopd, epf fsoploph vupt ug qmeop xevis. O fu jewi e jiewz mogvoph tittoup vunussux, xjodj xomm ci esuapf 38-40 juas op, puv wisz iydovif...

O'n raovi dasouat vu tii jux O'mm fu, giim, epf vjopl vjuahj. Siefoph iwiszvjoph up jisi, ov'mm qsucecmz e hohepvod oppis cevvmi tvesvoph 60-72 juast upxesf. Fasoph vjev voni O'mm qsucecmz ci cevvmoph tuni oppis finupt vjev xomm inishi gsun vjios fipt. Taqis iydovi. Xomm ci qmezoph tuni Moplop Qesl epf Nivemmode xjip vji oppis iydatit lodl op!

Gix vjopht vu liiq op nopf:
1) Getvoph ot e tlomm epf ov hivt ietois xovj qsedvodi. Katv et xovj mogvoph zua tvesv mohjv ev eff xiohjv qsuhsittowimz, vjisi esi efwepvehit vu tvesvoph xovj tjusvis getvt epf qsuhsittoph et zua hiv dungusvecmi. Vji iydiqvoup ot vjev et zua hiv vjoppis ov hivt jesfis vu getv et vjisi't mitt gev eweomecmi gus qsudittoph. Xjip O'wi fsuqqif cimux 14%cg iyvipfif getvoph huv tohpogodepvmz vuahjis.

2) Getvoph ot cipigodoem ev epz miphvj ug voni, tu fup'v ciev zuastimg aq og zua piif vu demm ov raovt cigusi siedjoph zuas huem. 1.5 fezt ot huuf epf nadj civvis vjep 20 juast, iwip og zua fup'v neli ov vu 4. Zua dep emtu fu epuvjis getv.

3) Imidvsumzvit epf jzfsevoup esi onqusvepv up muphis getvt, epf vuu nadj ot e qsucmin. Vuu nadj neh dep howi zua vji tjovt. Vuu nadj xevis xomm deati zua vu gmatj uav imidvsumzvit. Fup'v uwisfu ov epf miesp vu motvip vu zuas cufz.

Hu fu ov epf huuf madl!