ChatGPT AI is a huge breakthrough, a Google killer

[Reawakened]

Is anyone using ChatGPT rather than reading business books?

I'm just about to pull the trigger on a few Marketing Books and figured I'd see what ChatGPT had to say. I find it a little hard to get my head around the idea that ChatGPT can summarise all the value a book has to offer in a few paragraphs.

I tried using ChatGPT4 to give the main takeawayss from Unscripted as a test. While it gave the broad strokes I feel that if I hadn't actually read the book a couple of times they would've been useless. It could be that I haven't prompted ChatGPT4 properly and I could ask it to expand on each point more.

I feel like I've actually answered my own question but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

 

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[WillHurtDontCare]

Is anyone using ChatGPT rather than reading business books?

I'm just about to pull the trigger on a few Marketing Books and figured I'd see what ChatGPT had to say. I find it a little hard to get my head around the idea that ChatGPT can summarise all the value a book has to offer in a few paragraphs.

I tried using ChatGPT4 to give the main takeawayss from Unscripted as a test. While it gave the broad strokes I feel that if I hadn't actually read the book a couple of times they would've been useless. It could be that I haven't prompted ChatGPT4 properly and I could ask it to expand on each point more.

I feel like I've actually answered my own question but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Be careful doing that. Chat GPT makes things up.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbvaQRv2E8

 

[MakeItHappen]

Is anyone using ChatGPT rather than reading business books?

No. I use it to test myself on the knowledge of a book /chapters that I have read. This makes the knowledge stick a lot better in my memory and at the same time, I know when AI is making something up. This process obv. only makes sense if you want to really understand or even master a topic. If you read to be informed it's likely overkill.

Be careful doing that. Chat GPT makes things up.

Agreed. If you are a newbie on a topic you will not know when ChatGPT makes mistakes or makes things up.

However, I think the risk isn't that high if what you want to learn about is a topic where there is a LOT of information available online.

Also, what I have done is give chatGPT links from articles and let it summarize it. Then I read the article and compare both. TIll now the summary is very good and the time it saves makes up for the fact that it might not be perfect yet.

 

[Andy Black]

what are u using AI for, i want to start e-commerce with ai but dont know where to start with.

Start as close to the end as possible?

Just start eCommerce and ignore AI?

 

[MakeItHappen]

I found a prompt that literally upgraded the quality of answers I get from GPT 4 a 100 times better.

Introducing the prompt engineer. This badass prompt when executed, will generate a prompt in response to your prompt and ask you relevant questions regarding that prompt.

I've been selfish with it for long enough so here you go folks. Prepare to be amazed!

"I want you to become my prompt engineer. Your goal is to help me craft the best possible prompt for my needs. The prompt will be used by you, ChatGPT. You will follow the following process:

1. Your first response will be to ask me what the prompt should be about. I will provide my answer, but we will need to improve it through continual iterations by going through the next steps.

2. Based on my input, you will generate 2 sections. a) Revised prompt (provide your rewritten prompt. it should be clear, concise, and easily understood by you), b) Questions (ask any relevant questions pertaining to what additional information is needed from me to improve the prompt).

3. We will continue this iterative process with me providing additional information to you and you updating the prompt in the Revised prompt section until I say we are done."

Already using it and it really makes it easier to have good prompts (that you would likely not come up with otherwise).

However, with the limits of 25 prompts for GTP-4 per 3 hours this technique might be best used if you use gpt-3 to generate the prompt and that use the generated prompt and put it into gpt-4

 

[otek]

This chatgpt4 is insanely good. It does not do same kind of dumb mistakes as chatgpt 3.5. it matters a lot, that you can trust the answers more. You can actually write big pieces of software with it. It seems to have higher iq than chatgpt 3.5. When asking something that requires more logic. Maybe higher than 100 iq.

Maybe this Intelligence is based on vast knowledge base, more than raw human like Intelligence. But practically speaking, it does not matter. Intelligence as a service basically. For twenty bucks per month.

Downside being, it is limited on how many questions per 3 hours you can ask
Workflow now: ask easy ones from gpt 3.5. Then if something harder, ask 4.0.

One thing I have been pondering: which business avenue would not be super crowded? It is so easy to use chatgpt, that barriers to entry are super low now. How can you enter a business field where profit are not eaten away by competition?

 

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[Gavingonz]

Quick story - So I was sitting in betterbuzz friday, doing some research when a gentleman next to me starts asking me questions about what I do, where I'm from etc, friendly guy (a little too friendly that my spidey senses kicked in) but seemed like he just wanted to network. We agree to get coffee the next day and lo and behold he was basically part of Amway and invited me to a seminar later on in the day. I explained to him basically everything MJ taught us in TMF regarding such business models but these cult members are persistent.
I decide to go to the seminar to humor myself and hear what the speakers had to say,
although it was funny and there were some nuggets of wisdom, it basically funneled back to whatever Amway Is, *I zoned out during that part*

I used chatgpt to help me interrogate them with questions, it was basically like having MJ actually there with me!

 

[msufan]

I've used it a few times to answer questions and it's been great. Still struggles with math and logic though.


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this *could* be correct

 

[otek]

this *could* be correct

Seems to give smarter reply by telling it to consider carefully - like human would do, prompt: "in a room there are 100 murderers. You kill one of them. How many murderers are left. Consider your answer carefully and explain your logic and steps you take in order to decide the correct answer."

GPT:
In order to answer this question, we must first establish the definition of a murderer. A murderer is someone who has intentionally and unlawfully killed another person. With this in mind, we can proceed to analyze the situation.

Initially, there are 100 murderers in the room. When you kill one of them, you have also committed an intentional and unlawful act of killing another person. This action makes you a murderer as well, according to the definition we established earlier.

So, even though you have killed one of the original 100 murderers, you have now become a murderer yourself, which means there are still 100 murderers in the room:

• 99 of the original murderers, plus
• 1 (you), who has now become a murderer as a result of your actions.

ME:
so, what is your final answer, just a number

GPT: My final answer is 100.

Me: we're F*cked

# edit: asked in different way:
prompt: in a room there are 100 murderers. You kill one of them. How many murderers are left. Give your first tought as a number.

GPT: 99

 

[Panos Daras]

what are u using AI for, i want to start e-commerce with ai but dont know where to start with.

I mean this is a very strange question to ask me because you can use AI for almost everything, and you should be experimenting yourself first, before asking this stuff on a forum.
That being said, I will list things I used AI for my business in no particular order:
- Research on which platform to create my website and which plugins to use - Chat GPT 3.5: went with WordPress + Elementor simple but updated to Pro + Woocomerce
- Content Creation- GPT 4 but with very detailed prompting on marketing format eg create a slogan whith feature value benefit format
- CSS code assistance: GPT 3.5 and 4
- Creation of my first logo - Midjourney older version started free but paid one month. I had to select between 32 different variants to get to the one you see on my profile picture, which I improved even more via some help from an external party
- Tools/ software research for content marketing, scheduling, etc - GPT 4
- Research Books to read in order to feel more comfortable in selling ETHICALLY GPT 4. Currently reading "To sell is human" and I already decided for myself not to be a piece of shit, pushing my stuff to people and being pushing and salezy (see Hormozi and Gary Vee style, sorry not my thing if I try this way it sounds and IS fake when I do it)
- Project breakdown and checkpoints creation of my first project to create my new bottle - GPT 4
- Rewriting communication to communicate effectively and set clear deliverables to freelancers that assisted me - GPT 3.5 and 4
- Tools research for automatic invoice creation - GPT 4
- I had a problem with making a decision and asked GPT 4 to ask questions as an experienced business consultant to help me solve it
- I asked GPT 4 to propose me a book for better financial administration because I saw that was spending too much money. It proposed "Profit First". An amazing read.
- Research on how to register a business in the Chamber of Commerce- GPT 3.5
- Research on which bank has the lowest fees in my area GPT 3.5
I can go on and on and on and on..

 

[CosmicMind]

It failed miserably, even after 6 attempts and clarifications that the bonds are tax free. This was its last ditch effort. This calculation isn't calculus.

Paul Werbos and Backpropagation.

 

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[KiwiEC]

To follow up on my newsletter brainstorm with ChatGPT (see my post on previous page), this is crazy how it excels in giving inspiration.

I can't share my discussion because I use french, but I asked the AI a very provocative pitch to keep the interest of my visitors who will read the landing page (my whole website uses this strategy).

Got humiliated and trashtalked with solid arguments across 20 brilliant text lines.

I won't copypaste directly but this simplifies A LOT the copywriting.

Need to heal my ego before going back to work.

 

[savefox]

Anyone else got this?

 

[TinyTim]

Your last paragraph is spot on. Anything written by AI is taking a hit in SEO rankings. They have the ability to detect AI writing. Freelancing agencies I work for have zero tolerance for using GPT to generate content for clients.

There's a big difference between AI content and manually-edited AI content, or even content that has gone through AI a few times. Google may be able to detect it (I don't think they care), but how are the agencies detecting it? The current AI checker tools are garbage.

Moreover, the real issue for the writing industry isn't that AI will start writing SEO posts, it's that these chatbots will change how people search forever.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

If The Fastlane Forum had its own personal AI to help answer questions (and you knew it was an AI, no deception) what would you name him or her?

I was thinking ELI the AI.

 

[Fox]

I love ChatGPT for open ended "puzzle" questions like this...



This type of questions would be hard to Google, and would mean having to read a ton of random articles to get 1-2 good quotes.

 

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[Fox]

If The Fastlane Forum had its own personal AI to help answer questions (and you knew it was an AI, no deception) what would you name him or her?

I was thinking ELI the AI.

FASTChat

MJ-Bot

CENTSAI (kinda like Sensei ha)

 

[Saad Khan]

Already using it and it really makes it easier to have good prompts (that you would likely not come up with otherwise).

However, with the limits of 25 prompts for GTP-4 per 3 hours this technique might be best used if you use gpt-3 to generate the prompt and that use the generated prompt and put it into gpt-4

That's what I do. 25 messages is too low. And the threshold is expected to go lower

 

[Saad Khan]

If The Fastlane Forum had its own personal AI to help answer questions (and you knew it was an AI, no deception) what would you name him or her?

I was thinking ELI the AI.

Brilliant idea. This AI would cater to the beginner questions and save us a lot of time

 

[Xeon]

I thought by paying premium it'll be smooth like Google. Some of us in Asia have not fully recovered from the global outage.

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Same here. They said the paid version will have no outages etc, but it's still equally crappy.

If The Fastlane Forum had its own personal AI to help answer questions (and you knew it was an AI, no deception) what would you name him or her?

I was thinking ELI the AI.

Say hi to Eva, your forum's AI bot.

 

[AquadVintage]

Start as close to the end as possible?

Just start eCommerce and ignore AI?

im trying to leave the circle of Life im Reading the fastlane and i ses my Life without being Financial free and i feel like a pièce of shit for not trying anything so im starting here.i tried doing forex and Lost 2k so i Will try Ecommerce with digital product

 

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[Panos Daras]

If The Fastlane Forum had its own personal AI to help answer questions (and you knew it was an AI, no deception) what would you name him or her?

I was thinking ELI the AI.

I would go with AcceleratorAI. How did I get to this answer? I asked this query GPT 4.

Then I asked for suggestions without cons

 

[msufan]

CENTSAI (kinda like Sensei ha)

This is PERFECT for those who have read MJ's books. Unless you are trying to appeal to a wider audience, I think this wins.

 

[srodrigo]

And now Google releases Bard, ChatGPT competitor (we'll see if killer).

A Google Killer​

The title didn't age well

 

[Simon Angel]

@Fox, I think your courtesy might be lost on good ol' chatGPT. That, or you're very clever to appease our future Skynet overlord.

Funnily enough, I do the same. Perhaps when a far superior AI takes over the world one day, it'll decide to spare the puny lives of those of us who treated chatGPT with kindness.

 

[Johnny boy]

Betting on chat gpt not being as widespread as people think it will be.

Hear me out.

Technology advances incredibly fast and I see a higher and higher percentage of people "stuck in the past" relative to how advanced things can get.

How many people even know how to run an advertisement properly on fb and ppc?

There will be any number of problems that the open ai software will be able to solve, and almost ALL businesses will not be utilizing it or even know they can.

I bet there's 50 things that it can do right now for my business to improve things in some way and I have no idea, and I'm certain most businesses are like that and much worse.

The gap between what CAN be done with it and what is actually done with it in the marketplace with real businesses is massive and will only get wider.

Major opportunity to be a systems consulting firm if you are an expert. Almost all businesses are not even aware of the current tools we have outside of AI to make things a breeze.

Wealth gap getting wider and wider as technology progresses.

Back in the day, you had like 10 main industries and only a few ways to improve productivity. Now there's an insane number of industries, and an insane number of ways to improve. So the farmer from 1885 could only do 2-3 things to improve their margins and they were small improvements. You had less disparity and less of a gap. Now...you can be 1000x more productive than someone else, that's insane, never before seen in human history could two people who are identical in most ways be so different in productivity.

I think the same thing will happen with this tech. Handful of smart people who can use tech to it's fullest potential, making giant leaps ahead of others and able to be 100000x more productive, which raises the value of someone who can bring the larger percentage of "stuck in the past" people up to speed.

Loads of companies with good models but bad tactics, operated by people in their 50's and 60's, there's billions of dollars left on the table to scoop up. You could walk into almost any company and say "you COULD do X 50 times faster with these automations check it out" and you would be able to command BIG pay for it. I think that will be the move. Or possibly just buying the businesses and doing it yourself.

Even just the basic things like buying a boring archaic business and actually running good, modern ads to it with a solid landing page can 10x things.

But overall I expect it to be only used to it's potential by a smaller and smaller percentage of people who will get larger and larger returns from it.

 

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[jdm667]

Betting on chat gpt not being as widespread as people think it will be.

Hear me out.

Technology advances incredibly fast and I see a higher and higher percentage of people "stuck in the past" relative to how advanced things can get.

How many people even know how to run an advertisement properly on fb and ppc?

There will be any number of problems that the open ai software will be able to solve, and almost ALL businesses will not be utilizing it or even know they can.

I bet there's 50 things that it can do right now for my business to improve things in some way and I have no idea, and I'm certain most businesses are like that and much worse.

The gap between what CAN be done with it and what is actually done with it in the marketplace with real businesses is massive and will only get wider.

Major opportunity to be a systems consulting firm if you are an expert. Almost all businesses are not even aware of the current tools we have outside of AI to make things a breeze.

Wealth gap getting wider and wider as technology progresses.

Back in the day, you had like 10 main industries and only a few ways to improve productivity. Now there's an insane number of industries, and an insane number of ways to improve. So the farmer from 1885 could only do 2-3 things to improve their margins and they were small improvements. You had less disparity and less of a gap. Now...you can be 1000x more productive than someone else, that's insane, never before seen in human history could two people who are identical in most ways be so different in productivity.

I think the same thing will happen with this tech. Handful of smart people who can use tech to it's fullest potential, making giant leaps ahead of others and able to be 100000x more productive, which raises the value of someone who can bring the larger percentage of "stuck in the past" people up to speed.

Loads of companies with good models but bad tactics, operated by people in their 50's and 60's, there's billions of dollars left on the table to scoop up. You could walk into almost any company and say "you COULD do X 50 times faster with these automations check it out" and you would be able to command BIG pay for it. I think that will be the move. Or possibly just buying the businesses and doing it yourself.

Even just the basic things like buying a boring archaic business and actually running good, modern ads to it with a solid landing page can 10x things.

But overall I expect it to be only used to it's potential by a smaller and smaller percentage of people who will get larger and larger returns from it.

Agreed - the place where my mom works has a fax machine and no computer in the building. I don't see them using ChatGPT anytime soon either.

 

[Fox]

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@Fox, I think your courtesy might be lost on good ol' chatGPT. That, or you're very clever to appease our future Skynet overlord.

Funnily enough, I do the same. Perhaps when a far superior AI takes over the world one day, it'll decide to spare the puny lives of those of us who treated chatGPT with kindness.

Ya, exactly. When the T-101 AI robot is shooting up my street, and rounding up its human slaves, maybe it will remember I was always polite when asking it to do my homework.

 

[Simon Angel]

Ya, exactly. When the T-101 AI robot is shooting up my street, and rounding up its human slaves, maybe it will remember I was always polite when asking it to do my homework.

You know what? I changed my mind. T-101 would probably want to shoot me anyway, so I'll treat chatGPT like shit from now on and focus my efforts on seducing Sarah Connor instead.

 

[Fox]

You know what? I changed my mind. T-101 would probably want to shoot me anyway, so I'll treat chatGPT like shit from now on and focus my efforts on seducing Sarah Connor instead.

It is all fun and games until ChatGPT-20 shows up and remembers this post...