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Billionaire Ray Dalio: Meditation is ‘the single most important reason' for my success

Discussion in 'General Mindset, Motivation, Beliefs' started by ChrisV, Oct 23, 2018.

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    I was going to ask what type of meditation but that’s what the whole article is about.

    Have you done any research on different types and which is best Chris?

    I have the calm app on my phone which I love, I had a look at all the other apps but I preferred calm. Still need to make it a more regular habit, this thread is a good reminder of how important it is.
     
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    For those starting in the meditation world, I recommend: Joseph Goldstein videos (especially on craving or non self) and the meditation apps Insight Timer/Headspace.
     
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    TM (Transcendental Meditation) is the most widely researched. Mindfulness is catching up, but that’s stuff you do as you go about your day. Kind of like “portable meditation”


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    I 100% would love to know the science behind this, I've always been fascinated by the powers of our mind. Also I really need to start meditating myself, I'm going to start this evening in fact.
     
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    I meditate when I sleep. Does this count?
     
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    I feel that meditation is simpler than we all try to make it out to be. Not easier, just less complicated. It is simply connecting with our inner-selves. No science needed. No change in the brain. Just a connection...

    I do agree that meditation helps tremendously. But, we are still going to accomplish without it. It reduces the churn and stresses. It also provides clarity.

    I meditate 10-30 minutes a day. Usually 2 sessions. It is necessary to take myself into a lower consciousness first. I try again later if there is difficulty relaxing into the proper state.
     
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    Yes but knowing the science shows people the benefits and can help them stay on track.


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    Okay so... meditation helps with a mental facet called Executive Function.

    Executive Function is “higher order thinking.” It’s planning, response inhibition, goal directed behavior, Self Control. Read through the answers and you’ll notice a lot of the difference between the wealthy responders and non wealthy responders had to do with many of those things, most notably Self Control.

    Executive functions (EFs) make possible mentally playing with ideas; taking the time to think before acting; meeting novel, unanticipated challenges; resisting temptations; and staying focused. Core EFs are inhibition [response inhibition (self-control--resisting temptations and resisting acting impulsively) and interference control (selective attention and cognitive inhibition)], working memory, and cognitive flexibility (including creatively thinking "outside the box," seeing anything from different perspectives, and quickly and flexibly adapting to changed circumstances).

    If you look at my thread about the differences between Millionaires and non-millionaires, the differences become obvious.

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    Meditation helps Excutive Function, Self Control and boosts willpower. It makes it easier to do the things you know you need to do, but don’t feel like doing.

    We all know what we need to do to succeed, just like people generally know what they need to do to lose weight. It’s usually just a disconnect between knowing and doing. It's not usually"i don't know what to do" it's usually more like "i don't feel like doing that."

    Here are a couple of other things that help executive function.


    "Various activities appear to improve children’s EFs. The best evidence exists for computer-based training, traditional martial arts, and two school curricula. Weaker evidence, though strong enough to pass peer review, exists for aerobics, yoga, mindfulness, and other school curricula."

    "Children devote time and effort to activities they love; therefore, EF interventions might use children’s motivation to advantage. Focusing narrowly on EFs or aerobic activity alone appears not to be as efficacious in improving EFs as also addressing children’s emotional, social, and character development (as do martial arts, yoga, and curricula shown to improve EFs). Children with poorer EFs benefit more from training; hence, training might provide them an opportunity to “catch up” with their peers and not be left behind. Remaining questions include how long benefits of EF training last and who benefits most from which activities."


    Activities and Programs That Improve Children’s Executive Functions

    Also:

    "The importance of social, emotional, and physical health for cognitive health is discussed because stress, lack of sleep, loneliness, or lack of exercise each impair EFs [exec functions]. That EFs are trainable and can be improved with practice is addressed, including diverse methods tried thus far."

    Executive functions. - PubMed - NCBI

    Adele Diamond is one of the leading researchers when it comes to Executive fuction.
     
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    Well if calm is the one you like, then calm is the best ;)

    In my opinion if it keeps you coming back, that's one of the most important things.

    Sleep is important, but unfortunately it doesn't count as meditation lol. Meditation teaches you to calm your mind, which sleep doesn't.
     
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    I'm very likely one of the very few people on earth that doesn't think science is the tell all of our existence. Science tells us what we witness and piece together. Science is not going to explain our spiritual selves.
     
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    I'm not, lol.

    No... I'm half kidding... i don't think science will ever explain 'life' or what it means to be alive. But everything else it's got a monopoly on, imo. Including meditation benefits.
     
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    Best way to start is to sit down tonight and get started. All it takes is 5 minutes in silence and focus on your breathing. Good luck!
     
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    1. I use a free app called Insight Timer for my practice
    2. I'm interested in transcendental meditation
    3. Anyone know any good resources?
     
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    I think that science and spirituality is totally compatible. Actually, the most successful scientists were spiritualists.

    It's just that a lot of academics and scientist quickly dismiss any evidence and are intellectually arrogant. Despite the fact that there is NO evidence to say that we can't connect to higher mental dimensions.

    I just find it funny that the most intelligent people in our society quickly dismiss these kinds of things without evidence to the contrary and existence of evidence to support it. They will say "prove it" but a proof only exists in mathematics and logic. You can't prove the Big Bang or evolution. There is only evidence to support the theory that makes it "more likely than not to be true".

    Scientist think they are the smartest persons in existence but the error of thinking there is that non-human "things" have intelligence as well. And nature as a whole is has an intelligence as a whole. And one far superior and mysterious to anything we can grasp with our fragile minds.

    "Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe – a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of which our modest powers must seem humble" - Einstein
     
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    Thanks @ChrisV for your explanation.
     
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    I found the book Waking Up by Sam Harris and was hooked on the idea of meditation. Built 10 minutes of Vipassana into a habit on workdays.
     
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    Any recommendation of Vipassana meditation sources?
     
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    For those getting started, a very good book to read is "10% Happier" by Dan Harris, he explains his journey throughout spirituality and meditation. It is excellent because he is a great story teller and at the beginning he was very skeptical about these two topics.
     
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    Science can't explain the nature of our consciousness.
     
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    I actually like his newer book better, A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose.
     
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    He explains how to do it briefly here:



    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX9vX7YzfSo

    PS, this is exactly why I hate Gary Vee.
     
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    A unique perspective on mindfulness. What he is describing is not meditation at all though. It’s closer to mindfulness, and it’s not even that really.
    But mindfulness is somewhat of a meditation you can do as you go about your day:


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzuazdarDHE

    re mindfulness: these are good (quickish) videos about the duality.... there are the thoughts.. then there is this consciousness that is aware that you’re thinking... but it’s not the thoughts itself. Understand? Because thoughts can’t think about themselves... there’s something else there that knows youre thinking. And aligning with that consciousness is part of meditation. I love how Jordan explains it especially.


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIaY0l5qV0c



    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6F-jyrSBgg
     
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