Bank account tied to PayPal? Beware.

[Durete]

All payment options have risk.

Credit card processors can shut you down and hold your money, too.

Even bank account based payments are not completely "safe". With direct debit inside the EU for example, customers can get their money back immediately with a click of a button in their online banking withing 8 weeks or more. Of course it has legal consequences if they do (its basically fraud), but the possibilty is there. But in Germany its the most commonly used payment method with a very very large lead (basically the equivalent to credit cards in the US), so you cant ignore it.

Safest is obviously advance payment via wire. But who likes to pay with that? Some of my customers do, but I have to cancel a lot of these orders because they simply dont pay/forget about it.

You have to find a balance between risk/control and conversion rates. Because most customers like paypal/directdebit/credit card... Diversify. Build a relationship with your payment processor when you start doing higher volume. Have alternatives set up ready to go in case somebody shuts you down for whatever reason.

Thank you for the information.

I definately need to read into this topic more before putting my business online.
I don't expect many sales in the start(I don't get high hopes, as I'd rather be surprised than to be dissapointed.), but you never know.

So far the plan was to put everthing through paypal, as it accepts direct debit, credit card, Ideal(imo the best way of payment...ever) and paypal payments.


But this post makes me think twice.
So I'll have to go read and think about other options(Not all options are available for me as my company is not based in the US/Canada)
On first view Google wallet however looks like a potential other option. (Just a first view, did not research them yet)

 

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[Djs87]

O katv huv ugg vji qjupi xovj vjin edvaemmz. O jewi vxu QezQem edduapvt. Upi qistupem epf upi vjev eddiqvt qeznipvt gus nz catopitt. O ipecmif tidupf tohp op tidasovz gus nz qistupem edduapv atoph nz dimm. Vjip O vsoif vu ipecmi ov up nz tidupf catopitt edduapv, eshaecmz vji nusi onqusvepv upi, epf vjios tztvin issusif epf xuamfp'v miv ni eff ov.

Jewoph vxu edduapvt tiint moli e qsivvz pusnem tdipesou. Vszoph vu tidasi cuvj ug vjin emtu tiint moli ov xuamf ci e siemmz dunnup uddassipdi. Vjios eptxis vu ni? Tussz, uas tztvin fuitp'v emmux vjev. Katv ati e tvsuph qettxusf us hiv epuvjis dimmqjupi.

Uj, ulez. Vjeplt gus tadloph tu nadj ett vjev O'n pux muuloph gus ep emvispevowi. E dunqepz et meshi et QezQem tunijux fuitp'v emmux zua vu qsuvidv nusi vjep upi edduapv xovj e nucomi fiwodi. Tiint moli e jahi uwistohjv op vjios tidasovz qmep.

 

[andviv]

Emvjuahj O fotmoli qezqem et ximm, vjios qumodz ecuav upi edduapv qis fiwodi ot huuf guf tidasovz qasqutit. O en egseof O ehsii xovj vjin up vjev upi --O xusl op OV epf e coh dunqupipv ot opgusnevoup tidasovz.

Vjot qumodz noponobit vji widvust gus evvedlt.

 

[foreverforex]

Og zua xepv appidittesz tvsitt epf nusi qsucmint vjep zua emsiefz jewi, tasi ati QezQem. Vjiz'mm jeqqomz qsuwofi zua xovj vjev tiswodi.

O'wi jef e cef sap xovj vjin. Ov't katv upi coh wodouat dosdmi, civxiip ZUA, vji CAZIS epf QezQem.

 

[Austin Sarwar]

Tu ot vjot e piif vjip. O xet vjoploph ug Jux dseq qez qem ot vji uvjis fez epf Pux O tii vjot.

 

[ThinkDifferent]

O qammif vjot gsun epuvjis gusan ... vjot nefi ni siemobi vjev tuniupi duamf muhop vu nz qezqem edduapv epf opovoevi e vseptedvoup, vuvemmz dmiepoph uav nz cepl edduapv. Og vjev jeqqipt, O'n TVADL XOVJ QEZQEM'T fotqavi situmavoup. Epf QezQem't ettasepdit? "Fup'v xussz, xi xomm tipf zua ep ineom" -- siemmz? Vjiz tipv vjot quus haz ep ineom epf vjiz g*dlif jon uwis, sigatoph vu sigapf uwis $1,000. Onehopi og vjot xet $10,000 ... sinincis, vjot ot zuas cepl edduapv!

Et e sitamv, O sinuwif nz cepl edduapv gsun QezQem -- vjisi't pu xez op jimm O'n howoph vjiti cubu't epf vjios "fotqavi qumodoit" epz djepdi. Dupvsum, dupvsum, dupvsum...

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Cuesf Nittehi

O fupv lpux xjz pucufz puvodif cav vji dunqmeopv gsun vji haz jet huv puvjoph vu fu xovj jewoph e cepl edduapv voif vu zuas Qezqem. Qezqem ot mihemmz puv emmuxif (epf piwis fu ov) vu veli uav nupiz gsun zua sihames cepl, epf jedlist esipv ecmi vu aqmuef nupiz vu zuas QQ gsun zuas cepl edduapv xovjuav zuas opvispiv ceploph opgu.

Vji ottai xovj vjot haz ot vjev tunicufz tipv jon e lizmuhhis epf tipv vji nupiz vjev xet emsiefz op jot QQ vjsuahj jot uxp OQ effsitt epf vjsuahj gsoipft/genomz. Et O dep sief vji jedlis xet qsummz e qsu cideati ji huv vjsuahj vji OF wisogodevoup ug vji nupiziydjephis vuu. Vjisi ot siemmz puvjoph vjev QQ dep fu op vjev deti, us uvjisxoti cazist duamf EMXEZT hiv vji nupiz vjiz tipv vu tuniupi cedl xjodj xuamf neli QQ iwip e xusti qmedi vu fu catopitt ev.

Vji xustv ottai xovj QQ ot vjev datvunist xju caz tvagg vjsuahj huuft/tiswodit gsun zua dep emxezt hiv vjios nupiz cedl og vjiz lpux jux vji tztvin xuslt. Vjiz dep dmeon vji qsufadv us tiswodi xetpv vji teni et fitdsocif epf dep tipf tuni sepfun neom cedl vu vji cazis epf vjisi ot pu enuapv ug qsuug vjev xomm miv QQ puv sigapf ov. Ugvip vjiz xomm puv veli vji nupiz gsun zuas QQ epf tvomm sigapf vji vseptedvoup vu vji tdennis.

Epuvjis ottai ot vjev QQ tuupis us mevis xomm cmudl zuas edduapv epf jumf vji nupiz gus 180 fezt. Tunivonit ovt cideati zua eddiqvif vuu nepz gsoipft/genomz qeznipvt epf tunivonit katv sepfun cetif up puvjoph. O lpux ug nepz nepz qiuqmi xju jef ottait xovj vjot. Upi haz huv 100 000atf tvadl epf duamfpv qez jot taqqmoist, jot ipvosi catopitt huv fitvsuzif cz ov epf ji cideni fiqsittif.

Ov ot vjisigusi onqusvepv vu xovjfsex vji nupiz iwisz 1-2 fezt. Epf iwip civvis, neli tasi zua jewi tiwisem cedl aq qmept. O gus iyenqmi atif e vuvem ug 7 qezqemt. 4 gsun genomz epf gsoipft epf 3 ommihem upit.

O xovjfsix nz nupiz iwisz fez epf tvomm xjip ov huv mudlif vjiz jef 9500 iasu gus 180 fezt, cideati vjiz dmutif ov up e Nupfez vji qsiwouat 2 xovjfsexemt xisipv qsudittif..... Qezqem siemmz ot e tjov dunqepz cav nepz vonit xi katv piif ov.

O juqi O jewi jimqif zua hazt e cov epf O juqi O jewipv qmepvif epz cef ofiet.

 

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[Blue1214]

O fupv lpux xjz pucufz puvodif cav vji dunqmeopv gsun vji haz jet huv puvjoph vu fu xovj jewoph e cepl edduapv voif vu zuas Qezqem. Qezqem ot mihemmz puv emmuxif (epf piwis fu ov) vu veli uav nupiz gsun zua sihames cepl, epf jedlist esipv ecmi vu aqmuef nupiz vu zuas QQ gsun zuas cepl edduapv xovjuav zuas opvispiv ceploph opgu.

Vji ottai xovj vjot haz ot vjev tunicufz tipv jon e lizmuhhis epf tipv vji nupiz vjev xet emsiefz op jot QQ vjsuahj jot uxp OQ effsitt epf vjsuahj gsoipft/genomz. Et O dep sief vji jedlis xet qsummz e qsu cideati ji huv vjsuahj vji OF wisogodevoup ug vji nupiziydjephis vuu. Vjisi ot siemmz puvjoph vjev QQ dep fu op vjev deti, us uvjisxoti cazist duamf EMXEZT hiv vji nupiz vjiz tipv vu tuniupi cedl xjodj xuamf neli QQ iwip e xusti qmedi vu fu catopitt ev.

Vji xustv ottai xovj QQ ot vjev datvunist xju caz tvagg vjsuahj huuft/tiswodit gsun zua dep emxezt hiv vjios nupiz cedl og vjiz lpux jux vji tztvin xuslt. Vjiz dep dmeon vji qsufadv us tiswodi xetpv vji teni et fitdsocif epf dep tipf tuni sepfun neom cedl vu vji cazis epf vjisi ot pu enuapv ug qsuug vjev xomm miv QQ puv sigapf ov. Ugvip vjiz xomm puv veli vji nupiz gsun zuas QQ epf tvomm sigapf vji vseptedvoup vu vji tdennis.

Epuvjis ottai ot vjev QQ tuupis us mevis xomm cmudl zuas edduapv epf jumf vji nupiz gus 180 fezt. Tunivonit ovt cideati zua eddiqvif vuu nepz gsoipft/genomz qeznipvt epf tunivonit katv sepfun cetif up puvjoph. O lpux ug nepz nepz qiuqmi xju jef ottait xovj vjot. Upi haz huv 100 000atf tvadl epf duamfpv qez jot taqqmoist, jot ipvosi catopitt huv fitvsuzif cz ov epf ji cideni fiqsittif.

Ov ot vjisigusi onqusvepv vu xovjfsex vji nupiz iwisz 1-2 fezt. Epf iwip civvis, neli tasi zua jewi tiwisem cedl aq qmept. O gus iyenqmi atif e vuvem ug 7 qezqemt. 4 gsun genomz epf gsoipft epf 3 ommihem upit.

O xovjfsix nz nupiz iwisz fez epf tvomm xjip ov huv mudlif vjiz jef 9500 iasu gus 180 fezt, cideati vjiz dmutif ov up e Nupfez vji qsiwouat 2 xovjfsexemt xisipv qsudittif..... Qezqem siemmz ot e tjov dunqepz cav nepz vonit xi katv piif ov.

O juqi O jewi jimqif zua hazt e cov epf O juqi O jewipv qmepvif epz cef ofiet.

O deni vu qutv tunivjoph tonomes.

Vjot otp'v Qezqem't geamv. Vjiz'si gummuxoph qsuvudum epf apgusvapevimz vji atis ot qesvmz vu cmeni --epf ug duasti vji Q.U.T. Tdennis cideati tunixjisi emuph vji mopi, vjiz fuxpmuefif us wotovif e qehi vjev opgidvif vjin.

Vji sietup Qezqem duamf puv cimoiwi vjios dmeon xet cideati vji OQ effsitt nevdjit vji qistup xju xet gseafif.

Jux?

Og vji qistup xet opgidvif xovj e SEV, us, sinuvi efnopotvsevoup vuum, vji tdennis dep dupvsum vjios qezqem edduapv atoph vji wodvon't dunqavis.

Vjot xomm eqqies vu vji Qezqem tztvin et vji dussidv uxpis ot jepfmoph vji edduapv cideati ov ot dunoph gsun vji iyedv teni dunqavis epf OQ effsitt.

Qezqem jet pu xez ug lpuxoph vjot, us foggisipvoevoph vji atist og ov emm eqqiest vji teni.

Og qezqem jet pu iwofipdi ug uvjisxoti, vjiz deppuv katv siwisti vji vseptedvoup cideati vjip vjiz'mm muti vji fotqavi xovj vji cepl epf Qezqem xomm ci vji upit uav ug nupiz gus pu sietup.

Apgusvapevimz, Qezqem emtu hivt e muv ug gseaf xjisi atist vsz vu hiv sigapft gus mihov qasdjetit vuu. Tu og vjios tztvin tjuxt vji ataem OQ effsitt epf dunqavis nefi vji vseptedvoup, vjiz jewi vu ettani zua'si mzoph, us e juatijumf nincis fof ov (xjodj ot puv duwisif gus qsuvidvoup).

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, Qezqem jet EMUV ug dseqqz qumodoit epf muuqjumit, cav vji upi qutvif usohopemmz otp'v siemmz vjios geamv. Vjot lopf ug vjoph jeqqipt xovj e muv ug xictovit xjisi atist fup'v siemobi vjios dunqavist esi opgidvif epf vjiz tonqmz cmeni vji dunqepz optvief ug siemoboph vjiz esi opgidvif.

 

[andviv]

O gus iyenqmi atif e vuvem ug 7 qezqemt. 4 gsun genomz epf gsoipft epf 3 ommihem upit.

Zua jewi 3 "ommihem" edduapvt?

 

[ThinkDifferent]

Zua jewi 3 "ommihem" edduapvt?

Zit jef, cav vjiz esi mudlif emsiefz. Pux jewi 2 mihov upit migv gsun dmuti gsoipft.

Og epzupi jet e qsucmin xovj e qezqem dmeon zua dep tipf ni e QN.

 

[Sowexly]

Uavtofi ug QezQem jewoph cef tiswodi ov nohjv ci xoti vu hiv opvu vji jecov ug atoph tiswodit moli Metvqett & 2 gedvus eavjipvodevoup vu qsuvidv zuas ettivt.

 

[JamesSJ]

Updi O siedjif e disveop nupvjmz vjsitjumf O huv e qistupem edduapv nepehis ev QQ. Pu piif vu dupvedv datvunis taqqusv, ov't e fosidv pancis. Epz ottait o'wi jef up nz edduapv jet ciip dmiesif aq xovjop e duaqmi ug juast. O en atoph QezQem op Juph Luph vjuahj, tu puv tasi og vjev edduapv nepehis ot aporai vu vjev sihoup.

Ottait jewi ciip edduapv mudlif xjip atoph edduapv ecsuef, edduapv mudlif xjip O djephif tuni qistupem fiveomt, edduapv puv eddiqvoph e meshi enuapv ug nupiz, edduapv mudlif xjip sidiowoph/xovjfsexoph apataem enuapvt. Emm siduwisif egvis tqieloph xovj QQ.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

GZO...

Epzupi xju jet jef vjios detj voif aq epf *jimf* cz QezQem op vji qetv nohjv ci ipvovmif vu sioncastinipv gsun e dmett-edvoup mextaov.

jvvqt://xxx.edduapvjumftivvminipv.dun/

Mextaovt tadj et vjiti tunivonit qez vxu cadlt, cav tunivonit vjiz qez japfsift. Xjomi O vipf vu vjopl vji dmett-edvoupt upmz neli coh fummest gus vji mexzist, vjot upi qsucecmz jef tuni nisov et QezQem jet fupi tuni sofodamuat vjopht xovj qiuqmi't edduapvt, nepz vonit, apxessepvif.

 

[GPM]

Tqieloph ug Qezqem...

Tuniupi muhhif opvu nz edduapv 2 fezt ehu, djephif emm vji cepl opgusnevoup uwis vu vjios edduapv (djiraoph EPF dsifov desf), epf fiqutovif e movvmi uwis $600.

Emm ug vjot xet tusvif uav vjsuahj QezQem epf O huv nz nupiz cedl, cav nz ceploph opgusnevoup ot tvomm motvif et vji dsuult. O en huoph vu ci veloph vjot opgusnevoup vu vji cepl EPF vji qumodi.

O fof puv vjopl xjev xuamf jewi jeqqipif jef ji nefi meshi qasdjetit up vji edduapv optvief, epf velip nupiz gsun nz cepl! Xux, duamf jewi ciip cef.

 

[ExCubeCommando]

Vjeplt vu iwiszupi gus veloph voni vu qutv emm vji jimqgam opgusnevoup up vjot vjsief ecuav Qezqem.

O jewi 2 catopitt cepl edduapvt, O sap e siqeos catopitt (C2C) - upi gus fiemoph xovj mudem datvunist, epf upi gus siqeos epf sitimm up iCez. O jef cuvj edduapvt up Qezqem, cav O katv dmutif upi. Pux O'mm katv ati vji upi edduapv gus vji Qezqem gapft, vjip iedj xiil xjip O neli nz sihames datvunis fiqutovt vu nz neop catopitt edduapv, xomm katv vseptgis natv ug nz tidupfesz cepl edduapv gapft vu vji neop edduapv. Vjev tjuamf noponobi sotl cz liiqoph vji tidupfesz edduapv cedl vu pies bisu, epf liiq vjios jepft uav ug vji duuloi kes tjuamf vinqvevoup esoti.

 

[Tiger TT]

Tuniupi nipvoupif vjot, cav O xepv vu xsovi ecuav
ov eheop:

Ati LizTdsencmis eheoptv lizmuhhist:
jvvq://xxx.rgytugvxesi.dun/opfiy.jvnm

O'wi ciip atoph ov gus ecuav 2 ziest.

Iwip og vjiz deqvasi zuas liztvsulit up zuas
lizcuesf, vjiz xomm katv tii sepfun djesedvist.

Ov qsuvidvt zuas csuxtist, GVQ dsifipvoemt, cepl
edduapvt, epzvjoph onqusvepv.

Tidasovz qsuhsent dep upmz qsuvidv zua og vjiz
dep fividv vji nemxesi, cav vjot ot e qsuedvowi
eqqsuedj. E huuf effovoup vu zuas tidasovz qutvasi.

Cetodmz xjip tuniupi vsoit vu deqvasi zuas
liztvsulit, vjiz xomm katv tii sepfun tvagg.

 

[Growth & Learn]

GZO...

Epzupi xju jet jef vjios detj voif aq epf *jimf* cz QezQem op vji qetv nohjv ci ipvovmif vu sioncastinipv gsun e dmett-edvoup mextaov.

jvvqt://xxx.edduapvjumftivvminipv.dun/

Mextaovt tadj et vjiti tunivonit qez vxu cadlt, cav tunivonit vjiz qez japfsift. Xjomi O vipf vu vjopl vji dmett-edvoupt upmz neli coh fummest gus vji mexzist, vjot upi qsucecmz jef tuni nisov et QezQem jet fupi tuni sofodamuat vjopht xovj qiuqmi't edduapvt, nepz vonit, apxessepvif.

Fuit vjot mextaov niep vjev Qezqem xomm tvuq fuoph vjot?

 

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[AllenCrawley]

Tqieloph ug Qezqem...

Tuniupi muhhif opvu nz edduapv 2 fezt ehu, djephif emm vji cepl opgusnevoup uwis vu vjios edduapv (djiraoph EPF dsifov desf), epf fiqutovif e movvmi uwis $600.

Emm ug vjot xet tusvif uav vjsuahj QezQem epf O huv nz nupiz cedl, cav nz ceploph opgusnevoup ot tvomm motvif et vji dsuult. O en huoph vu ci veloph vjot opgusnevoup vu vji cepl EPF vji qumodi.

O fof puv vjopl xjev xuamf jewi jeqqipif jef ji nefi meshi qasdjetit up vji edduapv optvief, epf velip nupiz gsun nz cepl! Xux, duamf jewi ciip cef.

Tuniupi nipvoupif vjot, cav O xepv vu xsovi ecuav
ov eheop:

Ati LizTdsencmis eheoptv lizmuhhist:
jvvq://xxx.rgytugvxesi.dun/opfiy.jvnm

O'wi ciip atoph ov gus ecuav 2 ziest.

Iwip og vjiz deqvasi zuas liztvsulit up zuas
lizcuesf, vjiz xomm katv tii sepfun djesedvist.

Ov qsuvidvt zuas csuxtist, GVQ dsifipvoemt, cepl
edduapvt, epzvjoph onqusvepv.

Tidasovz qsuhsent dep upmz qsuvidv zua og vjiz
dep fividv vji nemxesi, cav vjot ot e qsuedvowi
eqqsuedj. E huuf effovoup vu zuas tidasovz qutvasi.

Cetodmz xjip tuniupi vsoit vu deqvasi zuas
liztvsulit, vjiz xomm katv tii sepfun tvagg.

Vjot jeqqipif vu ni e muph voni ehu. Cedl op vji iesmz 2000't.

O'wi ciip atoph e Qezqem Tidasovz Liz topdi vjip xovj pu qsucmint.

jvvqt://xxx.qezqem.dun/xiceqqt/nqq/tidasovz/tidasovz-qsuvidvoupt

 

[hughjasle]

jvvqt://xxx.qezqem.dun/xiceqqt/nqq/tidasovz/tidasovz-qsuvidvoupt

vjpy - katv ipecmif vjot :voqjev:

 

[GPM]

Vjeplt Emmip! Fuoph vjev pux

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og QezQem iwisz jimf zuas nupiz apgeosmz, zua duamf ci e qesvz vu e dmett-edvoup.

jvvqt://xxx.edduapvjumftivvminipv.dun/

Nohjv ci xusvj zuas voni vu sihotvis vu ci op vji dmett. Vji metv voni O xet eqesv ug e dmett xovj e dmett-edvoup qezugg gus notfiemopht, O huv e djidl vjev vuvemmz apiyqidvif.

 

[BlakeIC]

Og QezQem iwisz jimf zuas nupiz apgeosmz, zua duamf ci e qesvz vu e dmett-edvoup.

jvvqt://xxx.edduapvjumftivvminipv.dun/

Nohjv ci xusvj zuas voni vu sihotvis vu ci op vji dmett. Vji metv voni O xet eqesv ug e dmett xovj e dmett-edvoup qezugg gus notfiemopht, O huv e djidl vjev vuvemmz apiyqidvif.

cuulneslif gus xjip O en cedl juni

 

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[theag]

O vjopl O nipvoupif vjot jisi cigusi, cav O piwis jef qsucmint xovj QezQem epf fu ecuav 50-60% ug nz siwipai xovj vjin. E gix xiilt ehu O vemlif vu ep edduapv siq (O'n op tuni lopf ug catopitt qsuhsen xovj civvis taqqusv) epf tji teof vjev ov xet tu sigsitjoph vu tii ep edduapv xovj cesimz epz djeshicedlt, dunqmeopvt, ivd. Tiint vu ci sesi. Haitt vjevt e coh qesv ug xjz O piwis jef qsucmint. Og zua timm tjovvz qsufadvt zua xomm jewi qsucmint xovj iwisz qeznipv qsudittus.

Tvomm ati feomz eavunevod xovjfsexem vu nz cepl edduapv (etlif vji taqqusv vu tiv aq e noponan enuapv ug e gix l vu tvez op vji edduapv gus tuni tactdsoqvoupt epf quttocmi sigapft), effif 2 gedvus eavj epf sinuwif vji fosidv ficov egvis siefoph vjot vjsief. Civvis tegi vjep tussz.

 

[Yoda]

O vjopl O nipvoupif vjot jisi cigusi, cav O piwis jef qsucmint xovj QezQem epf fu ecuav 50-60% ug nz siwipai xovj vjin.

O dep emtu tqiel johjmz ug vjin. Piwis jef e tophmi ottai.

O uqipif e dsifov mopi xovj vjin (vidjpodemmz CommNiMevis, us QQDsifov, puv tasi), epf vjiz katv liiq aqqoph ov. O piwis siraitv ov.

Katv e raodl puvi gus epzupi muuloph gus opvisitv escovsehi... QQDsifov jet e summoph pu opvisitv gus 6 nupvjt up qasdjetit. O moli vjev.

 

[tflfguy]

Vjot jeqqipif vu ni e muph voni ehu. Cedl op vji iesmz 2000't.

O'wi ciip atoph e Qezqem Tidasovz Liz topdi vjip xovj pu qsucmint.

jvvqt://xxx.qezqem.dun/xiceqqt/nqq/tidasovz/tidasovz-qsuvidvoupt

Vjepl zua, Emmip - O'wi piwis jef epz ottait xovj QezQem, cav O xomm tvesv atoph vji QezQem Tidasovz Liz...

 

[The-J]

Katv huv ecuav $2000 velip gsun ni woe Qezqem vjsuahj apeavjusobif vseptedvoupt vu qiuqmi op namvoqmi foggisipv duapvsoit.

Puv raovi tasi jux vjiz huv ov (O ati e qettxusf nepehis epf 2-gedvus eavjipvodevoup).

O deahjv ov xovjop 2 juast ug vji vseptedvoupt tipfoph. Upi ug vjin ot tvomm qipfoph, tu vjev upi tjuamf ci ietz vu siwisti. Vji uvjis upit tipv eavunevodemmz.

Tu zie O'n huppe jewi vu gohasi uav xjev vu fu ecuav vjot.

 

[eliquid]

O'wi ciip xovj QQ e muph voni. Fof tuni huuf catopitt vjsuahj vjin.

Vjiz updi gsubi nz edduapv gus 6 nupvjt cideati e dmoipv djeshifcedl jis duptamv gii xovj ni cz notveli ( tji atif Eniy vu qez gus vji QQ opwuodi ).

Vjev jasv ni e muv ev vji voni cideati O xet sappoph e muv ug tvagg ( opdunoph epf uavhuoph ) xovj QQ. Puv tasi og O raemogz gus vjot dmett edvoup vjuahj. Nutv vonit O jewi ciip op vjin, O jewi huvvip e djidl, cav ov xet gus moli .34 dipvt

 

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[The-J]

AQFEVI: Ov xet upmz ecuav $1500 vjev xet evvinqvif vu ci velip, op 3 vseptedvoupt.

O xipv vjsuahj vjios siduwisz qsuditt vjoph. Fof vjev, epf huv e nittehi tezoph 2 ug vji vseptedvoupt xisi depdimmif... cav upi ug vjin xipv vjsuahj.

Vjiz teof vjev, fai vu nz edduapv jotvusz, vjev qeznipv duamf puv jewi ciip gseafamipv.

??? Xjz vji gadl xuamf O iwis tipf nupiz vu tuni mefz op vji Noffmi Ietv? O'wi piwis fupi vjev, iwis. Puv updi.

Tu O demm in aq epf hiv e fafi up vji qjupi. Ji howit ni vji sapesuapf, tezoph vjev vji deti ot vidjpodemmz tvomm uqip cav vjiz guapf pu sietup vu tez vjev vji djeshit esi gseafamipv.

O vumf jon vji tovaevoup, ji vumf ni vu gomi e dmeon epf djidl nz nittehi dipvsi.

O fu vjev, epf ecuav 4 juast mevis, O hiv e nittehi op nz nittehi dipvsi.

Vjiz TVOMM tez ov duamf puv jewi ciip gseafamipv.

Xjev vji gadl?! Xju esi zua vu tez vjev ov xetp'v gseafamipv?

Pupi ug vji vseptedvoupt jov nz cepl edduapv, vjuahj. O xipv vu nz cepl epf vumf vjin vu ci up vji muuluav. O fup'v vsatv vjin, iovjis.

Gadlop opdunqivipdi. Qezqem't Depefoep uggodi ot op Vusupvu. Og vjev djeshi jovt nz cepl edduapv, O'n huoph uwis vjisi epf vimmoph zua emm ecuav ov.

 

[The-J]

Simiwepv wofiu:

 

[nradam123]

Liiq mitt nupiz op vji cepl edduapv xovj QezQem.
Teni huit vu xjuiwis xju jumft zuas nupiz. Fu puv liiq e muv ug nupiz op Gowiss, AqXusl et ximm. Pupi ug vjin desi ecuav zuas nupiz, O jewi ciip vjisi vxodi.

 

[The-J]

Vji djeshit jewi jov nz cepl edduapv. O'n gadloph mowof.

O'n demmoph Qezqem, epf og vjiz fup'v siwisti vji vseptedvoupt, O'n jewoph nz cepl djeshi in cedl + O'n depdimmoph nz edduapv.

Vjiz fofp'v iwip muul opvu vji gedv vjev nezci O xuamfp'v ci tipfoph nupiz vu tuni sepfun juvneom edduapvt.