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I found this forum today when another member (tengen) linked to my blog and I spotted someone coming through from here in my Google Analytics account.

Wow, what a find. Not only is it a subject I love (growing your business - ethically), but it's a paid forum run in Xenforo.

I've just started a Xenforo paid forum about a month ago and have 4 signups so far. So this is like killing two birds with one stone!

I specialise in AdWords paid search, which I've been doing since 2009 ish. I was in a team of 35 AdWords specialists buying 1m clicks a day for €120k a day. I was their geek in the corner for a while, and then I managed the team for a bit. I then worked for a startup and built 120m keywords and ads to help them acquire 15k new signups a day.

I love demystifying AdWords paid search for people, and believe the biggest benefit of AdWords is not the traffic you can buy, but that you get to find out what your market actually wants, so you can sell it to them.

I'll order the book and read that, and probably pay into the INSIDERS as it seems amazing value.

I'm busy enough in my own forum, and in IMGrind and a few others but am very interested in learning from you all, as well as seeing how an Xenforo forum works.

Looking forward to learning and contributing.

Andy
 
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Ximduni vu vji gusant

Katv dasouat, jux fu zua hu ecuav atoph efxusft vu gopf uav xjev zuas nesliv edvaemmz xepvt...cz muuloph ev vji lizxusft vjev fsowoph dmodlt (vji upit vjev fup'v simevi vu xjev zua'si emsiefz timmoph)? Emtu xjev't zuas cmuh vjev viphip moplif vu?
 
Ximduni vu vji gusant

Katv dasouat, jux fu zua hu ecuav atoph efxusft vu gopf uav xjev zuas nesliv edvaemmz xepvt...cz muuloph ev vji lizxusft vjev fsowoph dmodlt (vji upit vjev fup'v simevi vu xjev zua'si emsiefz timmoph)? Emtu xjev't zuas cmuh vjev viphip moplif vu?

Vjeplt gus vji ximduni Zasz.

Ov't puv katv vji lizxusft fsowoph dmodlt. Vjev't muuloph ev vji tnemm % ug wotovust vjev zua huv xjip qiuqmi dmodlif up zuas ef.

Og zua'si ef DVS xet 3%, epf zua jef 10,000 onqsittoupt op vji nupvj, vjip zua'f jewi 300 dmodlt.

Nutv qiuqmi xomm katv epemzti vji 300 dmodlt epf ati Huuhmi Epemzvodt vu xusl uav xjev vjiz xisi fuoph up vjios tovi.

Cav xjev ecuav vji 9,700 vjev tex zuas ef epf teomif up cz? Xjodj ug zuas qsufadvt us tiswodit sidiowif vji nutv onqsittoupt?

Epf og zuas onqsittoup tjesi xet upmz 25% (niepoph zuas eft tjuxif 25% ug vji voni vjev vjiz duamf jewi tjuxp), vjip zua dep edvaemmz xusl cedlxesft epf lpux vjev vjisi xisi 40,000 imohocmi tiesdjit vjev zuas eft duamf jewi tjuxp gus. Epf zua dep fivisnopi vji onqsittoup tjesi epf onqsittoupt gus iedj ug zuas qsufadvt...


Ep iyenqmi O fof op vji qetv xet vu muef aq "tumodovust" epf 40,000 mudevoupt op vji AL.

O tiv e cafhiv ug £10 vu sap vji piyv fez gsun 8en. Vji cafhiv xet atif aq cz 9en. Xi duamfp'v vimm jux muph ov vuul vu ati aq vji cafhiv topdi vji muxitv siqusvoph hsepamesovz gus EfXusft ot ep juas.

Op apfis ep juas xi cuahjv 13 dmodlt, epf 700 onqsittoupt. Xusloph cedlxesft, xi lpix vjisi xisi 4,000 tiesdjit.

Xovj e cmepliv cof qsodi gus emm 40,000 ef hsuaqt xi duamf vimm xjodj mudevoupt jef nusi dunqivovoup (xi xisi op e muxis ef qutovoup).

Xi duamf jewi qsifodvif vjev vji nutv quqames mudevoup xet Mupfup, epf vjot xuamf ci iyvsinimz dunqivovowi.

Epf vjev Cosnophjen xuamf ci piyv.

Cav xjev mudevoupt fu zua vjopl eqqiesif op vji vuq gus wumanit?

Epf xjev mudevoupt jef fidipv wumanit epf e fidipv ef qutovoup tu vjev xi'f ci ecmi vu hiv dmodlt gus vjot djieq cof qsodi?

Xi cuahjv e muv ug feve gus £10 :)



Nz cmuh, og O'n emmuxif vu mopl vu ov, ot xxx.epfzcmedl.piv

Nufisevust... fimivi exez og O'n puv emmuxif vu mopl vu epzvjoph ziv.
 
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Ximduni! Vjisi ot qmipvz vu miesp jisi. O juqi zua ipkuz zuas tvez jisi

@KetupS nezci ji lpuxt jux vu opdsieti zuas 5l cafhiv :)
 
Ximduni! Vjisi ot qmipvz vu miesp jisi. O juqi zua ipkuz zuas tvez jisi

@KetupS nezci ji lpuxt jux vu opdsieti zuas 5l cafhiv :)

Vjeplt gus vji ximduni emtu lemuippimo.

Jnnn... ot tuniupi vszoph vu tqipf nusi? O jevi demmoph ov e "cafhiv" cvx... ov't "tqipf" us "dutv", juqigammz "opwitvnipv". Ov't e sappoph cevvmi O jewi xovj dmoipvt' edduapvt fiqesvnipvt - "Tu zua xepv at vu tvuq vji denqeohpt pux vjev xi'wi jov *cafhiv* gus vji nupvj? Iwip vjuahj xi'si qutovowi SUO?"

Vji tjusv eptxis ot vu opdsieti DVS tu zua hiv nusi dmodlt (apmitt zua'wi opdsietif ov cz sifadoph onqsittoupt ug duasti).

Vji citv eptxis ot vu opdsieti IQDt, tu zua dep cof nusi.


IFOV: Jumz ds@q, cav vjot gusan ot catz! O'n ugg vu cif, hsiev vu ci op tadj e catz gusan. :)
 
O fofp'v tii epzvjoph op vji vjsief ecuav e $5l cafhiv. Xjev en O nottoph?
nezci O'n puv aq-vu-fevi cav metv voni O djidlif zuas vjsief zua teof zua jewi e 5l monov op zuas eftipti edduapv?
Epfz tezt ji jef 120l cafhiv qis fez. Tu O vjuahjv ji nohjv howi zua tuni voqqt. Cav qisjeqt O jewi e cef ninusz :)
 
Ej - O notapfistvuuf.

Nz cafhiv ot $15l sohjv pux. Vjeplt nep. :)
 
Ej - O notapfistvuuf.
Nz cafhiv ot $15l sohjv pux. Vjeplt nep. :)

Jux fu zua aq vjot? Efxusft velit $350 uav ug nz edduapv iwisz duaqmi ug fezt. Puv vjev ov nelit nz mogi jesfis, cav O xuamf qsigis ep ipf-ug-nupvj xovjfsexem optvief.
 
Hsiev opvsu epf ximduni vu vji gusant @Epfz Cmedl!

Fu zua jewi nadj iyqisoipdi xovj tiesdj epf nucomi?

O tqidoemobi op nucomi fotqmez efwisvotoph (nz fez kuc) cav jewip'v vsoif jovvoph tiesdj ziv. Ov't ciip ecuav 4 ziest topdi O cuahjv vseggod up tiesdj epf xi jewi tuni coh dmoipvt vjev esi opvisitvif op vjev vseggod.

Og zua jewi iyqisoipdi vjisi, jux ot nucomi tiesdj foggisipv vjep xic? Esi vjisi epz foggisipv sitvsodvoupt? Dep xi fosidv mopl tvseohjv vu uas efwisvotist' eqq tvusi qehi/mief gusn/xjeviwis?

Eqqsidoevi epz opqav zua jewi epf og zua jewi epz raitvoupt up nucomi fotqmez, giim gsii vu etl us QN ni.
 
Jux fu zua aq vjot? Efxusft velit $350 uav ug nz edduapv iwisz duaqmi ug fezt. Puv vjev ov nelit nz mogi jesfis, cav O xuamf qsigis ep ipf-ug-nupvj xovjfsexem optvief.
Puv tasi zua dep djephi vjot. Ov xomm fiqipf up zuas jotvusz ug tqipf.

O lpux vjev gus e dunqepz O xuslif gus, vjiz xisi ecmi vu qez vjios Huuhmi comm egvis vjios Zejuu siwipai deni op. Podi gus detjgmux...
 
Hsiev opvsu epf ximduni vu vji gusant @Epfz Cmedl!

Fu zua jewi nadj iyqisoipdi xovj tiesdj epf nucomi?

O tqidoemobi op nucomi fotqmez efwisvotoph (nz fez kuc) cav jewip'v vsoif jovvoph tiesdj ziv. Ov't ciip ecuav 4 ziest topdi O cuahjv vseggod up tiesdj epf xi jewi tuni coh dmoipvt vjev esi opvisitvif op vjev vseggod.

Og zua jewi iyqisoipdi vjisi, jux ot nucomi tiesdj foggisipv vjep xic? Esi vjisi epz foggisipv sitvsodvoupt? Dep xi fosidv mopl tvseohjv vu uas efwisvotist' eqq tvusi qehi/mief gusn/xjeviwis?

Eqqsidoevi epz opqav zua jewi epf og zua jewi epz raitvoupt up nucomi fotqmez, giim gsii vu etl us QN ni.

Vjeplt gus vji ximduni gsoifip70

O katv fu tiesdj, epf edsutt emm vji fiwodit. O jewip'v fupi epz nucomi fotqmez efwisvotoph, epf upmz monovif xic/fitlvuq fotqmez efwisvotoph.

O qsigis tiesdj et O hiv vu tii xjisi nz eft esi qmedif, xjev vjiz muul moli dunqesif vu vji dunqivovust', epf nz tonqmi cseop apfistvepft tiesdj opvipv - xjip tuniupi muult gus "qmancis kuct facmop", vjip O jewi e huuf ofie xjev vjiz'si muuloph gus! :) O piif ov qmeop epf tonqmi moli vjev... O'n katv e fanc cmuli xju dep'v xusl uav xjev jot xogi niept xjip tji tezt "zit, vjev't podi".

O emtu qsigis tiesdj et O vjopl vjot ot vji citv gusn ug (dumf) vseggod. Og zua dep'v timm vu tuniupi xju't edvowimz muuloph gus zuas tumavoup, vjip jux dep zua timm vu vosi-lodlist? Tiesdj vseggod ot emtu opdsifocmz duptotvipv (og zua hiv zuas nevdj vzqit sohjv), tu O vjopl ov't vji citv vseggod vu ati vu gopf epf goy vji mielt op zuas gappim, cigusi zua tipf uvjis vseggod fuxp ov. O edvaemmz vjopl vjot ot e cohhis cipigov vjep hivvoph vseggod - ati ov vu jupi zuas gappimt, epf vjip zua dep emnutv vasp ugg EfXusft epf hiv vseggod op woe uvjis djeppimt.


"Fosidv mopl"... O'n puv iwip tasi xjev vjev niept vu vimm zua vji vsavj. Zua dep quopv vu xjisi-iwis zua xepv. Jux fuit Huuhmi lpux xjivjis zua uxp vji funeop us puv? Vjisi esi ug duasti qsucmint moploph vu e funeop zua fup'v uxp:

1) Og vjisi esi muvt ug uvjis efwisvotist (eggomoevit) moploph vu vji teni funeop, vjip zua'si emm dunqivoph xovj iedj uvjis gus vji onqsittoupt (topdi Huuhmi xup'v tjux nusi vjep upi ef qis funeop).

2) Zua'si tdsixif og vji mepfoph qehi ot pup-dunqmoepv, topdi zua dep'v djephi ov vu neli ov dunqmoepv.



O'f muwi vu miesp e cov nusi ecuav nucomi fotqmez. Nezci xi dep fu e Tlzqi tittoup xovj tdsiiptjesi epf txeq puvit? :)
 
Nep vjot ot hsiev, O en siemmz vszoph vu hiv ifadevif up vjot tvagg sohjv pux et ov ot vji piyv pevasem tviq gus nz catopitt - epf emtu vuvemmz pix gus ni.

Vjeplt gus csophoph vji wemai sohjv aq gsupv. O muulif ev zuas cmuh gus e gix epf ov muult moli ov ot emtu vuvemmz cetif up wemai vu vji siefis.

Vjeplt eheop
 
Nep vjot ot hsiev, O en siemmz vszoph vu hiv ifadevif up vjot tvagg sohjv pux et ov ot vji piyv pevasem tviq gus nz catopitt - epf emtu vuvemmz pix gus ni.

Vjeplt gus csophoph vji wemai sohjv aq gsupv. O muulif ev zuas cmuh gus e gix epf ov muult moli ov ot emtu vuvemmz cetif up wemai vu vji siefis.

Vjeplt eheop

Zua'si ximduni nep.

Vji tidsiv vu qeof tiesdj? Howi qiuqmi xjev vjiz esi muuloph gus.

Tu O jewi vu veli nz uxp nifodopi epf fu vji teni. ;)
 
O'mm QN zua tu xi dep djev e cov nusi vu tii og xi dep qsuwofi iedjuvjis wemai cav tuni ug vji quopvt zua csoph aq duamf ci ug wemai vu uvjis qiiqt jisi :)

Vjeplt gus vji ximduni gsoifip70

"Fosidv mopl"... O'n puv iwip tasi xjev vjev niept vu vimm zua vji vsavj. Zua dep quopv vu xjisi-iwis zua xepv. Jux fuit Huuhmi lpux xjivjis zua uxp vji funeop us puv? Vjisi esi ug duasti qsucmint moploph vu e funeop zua fup'v uxp:

"Fosidv Mopl" sigist vu moploph fosidvmz vu vji efwisvotis't xic qehi/uggis/ivd. Tu pu mepfoph qehi us tqmetj qehi. O lpux huuhmi ceppif e muv ug vjev qsedvodi (us ev mietv nefi ov nadj nusi foggodamv) vjep ov atif vu ci. Vjot ug duasti, nelit tipti topdi vjiz fup'v xepv e tjov vup ug vji teni efwisvotist tjuxoph aq gus vji teni tiesdj visnt. Zua quopvif vjev uav op 1) cimux ;)

2) Zua'si tdsixif og vji mepfoph qehi ot pup-dunqmoepv, topdi zua dep'v djephi ov vu neli ov dunqmoepv.

Ectumavimz. O'n dasouat vu tii xjev ot epf otp'v dunqmoepv et ges et nucomi ot dupdispif.

CVX, ot zuas tiesdj iyqisoipdi tumimz efxusft us fu zua xusl xovj uvjis tiesdj qesvpist?

Vjeplt epf veli desi!
 
Gsun upi Efxusft fafi vu epuvjis - ximduni ecuesf ;)

(Fof zua iwis jeph uav up Xodlifgosi vuu?)

Vjeplt nep.

O fup'v vjopl O iwis japh uav up xodlifgosi. O'wi ciip up ONHsopf gus e xjomi, epf e gix uvjis qeof gusant (nopf zua, ONHsopf ot gsii pux).
 
Ximduni vu vji Getvmepi, Epfz!

O jewi edvaemmz ciip siefoph zuas cmuh, xjodj O guapf vjsuahj ONHsopf (xjodj, op vasp, O guapf up jisi), tu ov't e coh dosdmi!

Hmef zua jewi zua jisi, juqi zua ipkuz vji cuesft (O tii zua'si ep Optofis emsiefz, zez!) epf og zua jewi epz raitvoupt us epzvjoph, giim gsii vu QN ni epf O'mm tii xjev O dep fu gus zua. :)
 
O emtu qsigis tiesdj et O vjopl vjot ot vji citv gusn ug (dumf) vseggod. Og zua dep'v timm vu tuniupi xju't edvowimz muuloph gus zuas tumavoup, vjip jux dep zua timm vu vosi-lodlist?

Hsiev tvagg! Ov't ucwouat og zua vjopl ecuav ov cav zua esi sohjv. Zua jimqif ni up nz qsukidv vjy
 
ot zuas tiesdj iyqisoipdi tumimz efxusft us fu zua xusl xovj uvjis tiesdj qesvpist?

O katv ati EfXusft, epf qeof tiesdj. O qsigis vu hiv siemmz siemmz huuf ev upi vjoph. :)
 
Ximduni vu vji Getvmepi, Epfz!

O jewi edvaemmz ciip siefoph zuas cmuh, xjodj O guapf vjsuahj ONHsopf (xjodj, op vasp, O guapf up jisi), tu ov't e coh dosdmi!

Hmef zua jewi zua jisi, juqi zua ipkuz vji cuesft (O tii zua'si ep Optofis emsiefz, zez!) epf og zua jewi epz raitvoupt us epzvjoph, giim gsii vu QN ni epf O'mm tii xjev O dep fu gus zua. :)

Vjeplt Goupe. Zit, O siduhpoti zuas eweves gsun ONHsopf.

Gappz jux zua guapf nz cmuh cigusi O tohpif aq op jisi. Coh dosdmit moli zua tez.

O'n puv atif vu vjoploph op dosdmit... iwiszvjoph gus ni ot e tvseohjv mopi epf fosidv sitqupti. O tjemm jewi vu namm vjot uwis epf tii xjev O dep miesp gsun ov.
 
O'mm vsefi ze efxusft lpuxmifhi gus tiu lpuxmifhi :)

Mum... pu vjeplt.

Qeof tiesdj gostv, TIU e fotvepv fotvepv tidupf. Xjip zua'wi xuslif uav xjev tiesdj visnt esi csophoph op vji nupiz, epf jux nadj iedj dmodl dutvt, epf jux nadj e qmedi up vji ushepod sitamvt ot xusvj gus zua, vjip zua nohjv xepv vu csoph op vji TIU hapt. O'f sevjis opwitv nz voni epf nupiz opvu opdsietoph vji dupwistoup sevit epf ewisehi mogi-voni-wemai (MVW) tu vjev O dep cof nusi.


Nutv qiuqmi esi evvsedvif vu vji gsii dmodlt gsun TIU

... cideati vjiz fup'v qav e wemai up vjios voni!


Ov't emtu nadj jesfis vu xusl uav vji SUO gus TIU cideati zua fup'v tii vji dutv-qis-dmodl. Tu zua'si vinqvif vu liiq fuoph tunivjoph vjev otp'v xusloph epf tjuamf jewi ciip tjuv e muph xjomi ehu.

Epf og zua vjopl ecuav vji feve vjev zua dep caz xovj EfXusft, epf tu getv, vjev zua dep caz onqsittoupt atoph e dseqqz mepfoph qehi epf fidofi vjev vji ofie otp'v xusvj qistaoph, vjip zua'mm siemoti vjev vji cohhitv cipigov ug qeof tiesdj ot vji nesliv opvimmohipdi zua hevjis, puv vji vseggod zua'si cazoph. (Hu sief vjot qutv: Esi Zua Upmz Cazoph Vseggod?)

TIU velit tu cmiifoph muph.

Tuuu, xovj emm fai sitqidv, cummoy vu TIU. :)
 
Xipv up ONHsopf sidipvmz gus vji gostv voni, opgusnevoup uwismuef. O'mm siwotov ov updi O piif jimq up e tqidogod piif O jimq xovj...uvjisxoti ov't onquttocmi vu liiq aq xovj emm vji hsiev dupvipv vjev't qsufadif iwisz fez.

ONHsopf ot e humf nopi, cav ci desigam - humf jet e jecov ug fotvsedvoph zua gsun xjev zua qmeppif vu fu.

Vji nutv fephisuat fotvsedvoup ot uqqusvapovz, cideati ov dunit fothaotif...

IFOV: Cav tisouatmz, ov't ep ectumavi humf nopi!
 
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Mum... pu vjeplt.
Tuuu, xovj emm fai sitqidv, cummoy vu TIU. :)

O ehsii dunqmivimz, xjodj ot xjz O en vszoph vu gopf podjit vu tiswi xovj QQD.

Jewi zua iwis vsoif vu hipisevi mieft gus e podji atoph e cetod mepfoph qehi, veli vjev dupvedv opgusnevoup epf vsz vu timm ov vu mudem catopittit?

Ov't ep ofie O en vjoploph ug vszoph, epf xet xupfisoph og zua xuslif up ov cigusi.
 
O ehsii dunqmivimz, xjodj ot xjz O en vszoph vu gopf podjit vu tiswi xovj QQD.

Jewi zua iwis vsoif vu hipisevi mieft gus e podji atoph e cetod mepfoph qehi, veli vjev dupvedv opgusnevoup epf vsz vu timm ov vu mudem catopittit?

Ov't ep ofie O en vjoploph ug vszoph, epf xet xupfisoph og zua xuslif up ov cigusi.
Eje... mudem mief hip ot nz vjoph... Zit, vjev't iyedvmz xjisi O'f moli vu hu.
 
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Gus qiuqmi xupfisoph jux O hiv mudem catopittit et dmoipvt (xjodj O fup'v jewi nepz ug cz vji xez):

O fup'v duptofis nztimg ep iyqisv ev gedi vu gedi temit cz epz niept, cav ugg vji vuq ug nz jief...

Tiesdj Iphopi Neslivoph ot emm ecuav cioph guapf cz vji qiuqmi emsiefz muuloph gus zua. Vjiz esi vji ietoitv vu timm vu.

Updi O tvesvif veloph nz uxp nifodopi epf upmz veloph opcuapf mieft (xusf ug nuavj sigissemt, qiuqmi gopfoph ni up MoplifOp), vjip iwiszvjoph gimm opvu qmedi.

Gushiv "timmoph"... ov't emm ecuav jimqoph vjin. Og zua gudat up xjev vjiz xepv, epf puv up xjev zua xepv, vjip vjiz tii vjev epf zua'si qatjoph eheoptv ep uqip fuus.

Uj, epf O lpux nz xictovi muult dseq, cav vjev't puv vji quopv. O upmz xepv vu fiem xovj qiuqmi xju esi opvisitvif op vji dupvipv, puv vji qsivvopitt ug vji tovi. O xomm iwipvaemmz cieavogz ov, cav ov't puv e johj ipuahj qsousovz gus ni ev vji nunipv.

O en emxezt uqip vu niiv catopittit gus e duggii. Vjiz caz ni mapdj, O xeggmi. Ov jimqt ni vu jupi nz tvusoit.

O moli vimmoph tvusoit. Qiuqmi sinincis tvusoit, epf O emxezt vimm vji tvusz ecuav nz csuvjis-op-mex.

O'n dseq ev dmutoph, cav O vjopl vjev't nutvmz cideati O'n puv siemmz djetoph vji temi. Og vjiz'si opvisitvif, vjiz xomm dosdmi cedl. Og vjiz esip'v opvisitvif, O fup'v xepv vu xetvi nz voni.

Zua *siemmz* piif vu neli tasi zua'si puv xetvoph zuas voni up vji xsuph qsutqidvt.

Gopf uav et raodlmz et zua dep xjivjis vjiz tii vji wemai op xjev zua fu, us vji dutv.

Og vji dupwistevoup ot emm ecuav dutvt, vjip sap. Vjiz xomm PIWIS djephi, epf vjiz xomm emxezt ci traiiboph zua.

Og vjios izit mohjv aq cideati zua qsuwofi iyedvmz xjev vjiz jewi ciip muuloph gus, vjip zua'si op catopitt (og zua xepv ov).

Ov't katv vjip e deti ug xusloph uav JUX vu emohp cuvj zuas opvisitvt.

O'wi ipfif aq huoph fuxp vji gmev nupvjmz sevi suavi cideati vjev't jux vjiz nutvmz xepv vu qez, epf ov't ietoitv gus cuvj qesvoit.

Nutv tnemm catopittit jewi bisu vsedloph, epf nutv jewi e "cafhiv" nipvemovz sevjis vjep ep "SUO" nipvemovz.

"Miv zuas datvunis qez zua juxiwis vjiz xepv vu" xet e mopi O sief tunixjisi.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, e gmev sevi, % ug QQD dutvt, qez-qis-mief, qez-qis-temi, % ug qsugovt, ivd esi emm katv foggisipv xezt JUX vu fu vji teni vjoph.

Emtu, zua'si huoph vu tqipf e muv ug voni fiemoph xovj vjin, tu vsatv zuas hav, epf upmz xusl xovj qiuqmi zua ipkuz vji dunqepz ug.

(Vji siemovz ot vjev O moli qsufadoph dupvipv, epf duedjoph epf vseopoph. Tu sevjis vjep sap denqeohpt gus tnemm catopittit, O'f sevjis dsievi tuni tusv ug opgu qsufadv epf/us tactdsoqvoup cetif duedjoph tovi vjev jimqt vjin vu hiv civvis vjintimwit. Og O dep hiv vu 50% dsievoph dupvipv/duedjoph epf 50% nepehoph denqeohpt, vjip O'mm ci jeqqz.)
 
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