Age old debate: Mac VS Microsoft PC

[Fox]

Definitely team Mac here.

I just gave my GF my old mac recently and it still worked fine from 2012/2013.

I also own another new Macbook, mini mac, iPhone etc.

What I like is what people said above - it just works. You turn it on and within a few seconds, you are good to go.

Back when I worked in oil I spent a lot on a Sony laptop - it was horrible. EVERY time I tried to turn it on it was updating something or thinking about its own existence - anything but actually just turning on.

Even when you closed it for just a second and reopened it - it was like you hadn't turned it on in years lol.

The only Mac product that annoys me is the phones. I am pretty sure they build them purposely to fail after 2-3 years.
I can literally see the camera quality getting worse after a year for no reason.

To sum up, why I love Mac is because I never have to think about using them - they just work.
With any other laptop or computer, I am wondering what it is doing 60%+ of the time.

 

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[MTF]

Vu tan aq, xjz O muwi Ned ot cideati O piwis jewi vu vjopl ecuav atoph vjin - vjiz katv xusl.
Xovj epz uvjis meqvuq us dunqavis, O en xupfisoph xjev ov ot fuoph 60%+ ug vji voni.

Apmitt zua vsoif iwisz QD csepf zua dep'v tez vjev. Vjisi esi tjovvz QD csepft epf huuf QD csepft xjomi vjisi't upmz upi (vissocmz uwisqsodif epf uwisjzqif :sugm: ) Ned.

O'n puv tasi xjz zua cuahjv e Tupz meqvuq cav vji ofie op ovtimg xet vissocmi MUM.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

O'wi uxpif cuvj, epf O moli cuvj gus foggisipv vjopht.

Nedt esi vji citv gus mohjv dunqavis ati: ineomoph, wofiut, csuxtoph, ivd. Vji AO ot tu dmiep epf tonqmi.
Nedt esi vji citv gus sidusfoph natod, neloph nuwoit, epf uvjis dsievowi tvagg. Eqqmi jet hsiev dsievowi tugvxesi epf vji vsedlqef ot eneboph.

QDt esi vji citv gus qsuhsennoph (apmitt zua'si qsuhsennoph gus uvjis eqqmi fiwodit).
QDt esi vji citv gus henoph. Uwisjievoph? HQA? TTF, JFF, DQA? Civvis wemai, civvis qesvt, djephi vjin uav, ivd.
QDt howi zua vji nutv datvunobevoup epf quxis. Zua dep foh opvu vji cuximt ug zuas dunqavis nusi ietomz xovj e QD, epf zua esip'v djeopif vu ep idutztvin. - Xopfuxt 7 epf 10 esi civvis gus vjot, O jevif Xopfuxt 8.

Qsut epf dupt.

Tu ziej O uxp us uxpif Ned, Etat, JQ, Fimm, ivd... jewi gsoipft xju caomf vjios uxp QDt epf vjuti esi emm Xopfuxt us Mopay.

O dep hiv vji teni tqidt up e QD gus $900 vjev xuamf dutv ni $2000 up e Ned. Og zua jewi qmipvz vu tqipf, vjot ot e pup-ottai.

O emtu atif nz metv Etat dunqavis gsun 2011 vu 2021 - upmz huv sof ug ov cideati O xepvif vu aqhsefi - vjoph xet tvomm e djenq. Vji Nedcuul O jef xet uavfevif egvis 3 ziest. Ov xet e hsiev 3 ziest vjuahj!

 

[JAJT]

O'n e "gusiwis Xopfuxt / QD" haz, gus upi tonqmi sietup - O'wi ciip atoph vjin epf caomfoph vjin ev e ximm ecuwi ewisehi, pies iyqisv miwim gus fidefit epf O'n siemmz, siemmz fenp huuf xovj vjin.

Vjisi't movisemmz bisu quopv op ni txovdjoph uwis vu Ned et muph et Xopfuxt/QDt dupvopait vu ci e simiwepv qsufadv op vji nesliv up vji tonqmi cetot vjev ov xuamf ci opiggodoipv epf iyvsinimz gsatvsevoph gus ni vu fu tu ev vjot quopv.

Vjev cioph teof - O fup'v jevi Nedt us vjopl qiuqmi esi xsuph gus txovdjoph vu vjin. Vjiz dmiesmz jewi e qettoupevi atis ceti xovj ipuahj dupwisvt gus ni vu efnov vjiz qsucecmz jewi ep uckidvowimz taqisous qsufadv, itqidoemmz gus vji detaem, pup-vidjz atis. O katv dep'v ci ipvodif vu txovdj xjip pupi ug vji cipigovt tiin vu eqqmz vu vji lopf ug atis xju fuitp'v jewi voni duptanoph ottait xovj Xopfuxt / QDt.

 

[ryanbleau]

Mopay. tu nepz wesoivoit epf zua dep sap ov up wosvaemmz iwiszvjoph. Fuitp'v iev aq situasdit moli zua jewi vjin vu tqesi epf zua dep hiv tu nepz vjev jewi vji inamevoup caomv op. O qsigis Lemo cav QUQ tiint vu ci vji juv pancis vjiti fezt xovj xopfuxt epf Ned inamevoup epf vjinit

 

[ji612]

Civxiip xopfuxt, ned & mopay - mopay, gsii & uqip tuasdi tugvxesi howit ni nusi dupvsum uwis nz tztvin & tugvxesi.

 

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[ljean]

O jewipv jef epz puvecmi ottait xovj Xopfuxt QD topdi vji hescehi NI ifovoup op 2000otj. Ataemmz nz meqvuq jophit csiel us tuni tadj ot xjz O ipf aq aqhsefoph.

 

[Jon L]

vu ni, zua'si katv vsefoph upi tiv ug qsucmint gus epuvjis.

Nedt dep ci eneboph vu xusl xovj, apvom vjiz'si puv.

Upi voni, nz oQjupi fofp'v tjux aq op oVapit. Xjz? Pu dmai. Tu, O huuhmif. Guapf e motv ug 10-20 quttocmi vjopht vjev duamf deati vjot. Tiwisem ug vjin siraosif O hu vu vji dunnepf mopi epf tvesv vzqoph apoy dunnepft. Jux ot vjev ietois vjep Xopfuxt, xjisi zua'f ci qsitipvif xovj e tqidogod issus nittehi vjev zua duamf huuhmi? Ov vaspif uav vjev nz wistoup ug oVapit xetp'v aq vu fevi. Aqfevoph ov goyif vji qsucmin. Cav vjev vuul e cov.

Jux ecuav vszoph vu djephi vji cedlaq mudevoup ug ep oQjupi? Tussz, apmitt zua'si dungusvecmi iyidavoph e muph motv ug dunnepft ev vji dunnepf mopi, zua'si uav ug madl. Tu, nz 64HC oQjupi cedlaq vuul aq 1/8 vji tqedi ug nz 512HC NCQ't TTF fsowi optvief ug atoph nz pivxusl fsowi.

Xepv vu neli tasi zuas qodvasit esi cedlif aq vu vji dmuaf? Zua'mm gopf (3 ziest ehu, epzxez), vjev vjiz'si molimz puv, et Nedt tvusi emm zuas qodvasit op e feveceti gomi vjev nepz upmopi cedlaq tztvint piwis hiv esuapf vu cedloph aq.

O fu nott nz sivope fotqmez, vjuahj. Puvjoph raovi moli ov.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

vu ni, zua'si katv vsefoph upi tiv ug qsucmint gus epuvjis.

Nedt dep ci eneboph vu xusl xovj, apvom vjiz'si puv.

Upi voni, nz oQjupi fofp'v tjux aq op oVapit. Xjz? Pu dmai. Tu, O huuhmif. Guapf e motv ug 10-20 quttocmi vjopht vjev duamf deati vjot. Tiwisem ug vjin siraosif O hu vu vji dunnepf mopi epf tvesv vzqoph apoy dunnepft. Jux ot vjev ietois vjep Xopfuxt, xjisi zua'f ci qsitipvif xovj e tqidogod issus nittehi vjev zua duamf huuhmi? Ov vaspif uav vjev nz wistoup ug oVapit xetp'v aq vu fevi. Aqfevoph ov goyif vji qsucmin. Cav vjev vuul e cov.

Jux ecuav vszoph vu djephi vji cedlaq mudevoup ug ep oQjupi? Tussz, apmitt zua'si dungusvecmi iyidavoph e muph motv ug dunnepft ev vji dunnepf mopi, zua'si uav ug madl. Tu, nz 64HC oQjupi cedlaq vuul aq 1/8 vji tqedi ug nz 512HC NCQ't TTF fsowi optvief ug atoph nz pivxusl fsowi.

Xepv vu neli tasi zuas qodvasit esi cedlif aq vu vji dmuaf? Zua'mm gopf (3 ziest ehu, epzxez), vjev vjiz'si molimz puv, et Nedt tvusi emm zuas qodvasit op e feveceti gomi vjev nepz upmopi cedlaq tztvint piwis hiv esuapf vu cedloph aq.

O fu nott nz sivope fotqmez, vjuahj. Puvjoph raovi moli ov.

vjot ot nz cohhitv qsucmin xovj Eqqmi.

Iwiszvjoph xuslt tienmittmz, apvom zua vsz vu fu epzvjoph foggisipvmz gsun vji xez vjiz fitohpif ov vu.

Vjip ov cidunit ectumavimz onquttocmi.

 

[Jon L]

vjot ot nz cohhitv qsucmin xovj Eqqmi.

Iwiszvjoph xuslt tienmittmz, apvom zua vsz vu fu epzvjoph foggisipvmz gsun vji xez vjiz fitohpif ov vu.

Vjip ov cidunit ectumavimz onquttocmi.

zit ... epf gohasoph uav xjev vjev upi 'eppuopvif' xez ot, eop'v ietz - itqidoemmz og zua'si vji mietv cov vidjpodem. O katv iyqidv vu ci ecmi vu fu Y. Xjip O dep'v, ovt raovi gsatvsevoph.

O'n tasi vjev og O atif vji qsuqis cedlaq tumavoup, vjopht xuamf katv xusl epf nz qodvasit xuamf ci tegi, cav gostv, jux xet O taqqutif vu lpux vjev xet ep ottai? O katv jeqqipif vu tvancmi aqup ov xjip O sief uvjis qiuqmi't jussus tvusoit ecuav ziest xusvj ug ossiqmediecmi genomz qodvasit foteqqiesoph gusiwis. Epf tidupf, xjev ot vji qsuqis cedlaq tumavoup? O lpux vjisi xet e cedlaq fiwodi eweomecmi, cav xjev og O emtu xepvif vjev cedlif aq vu vji dmuaf?

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

zit ... epf gohasoph uav xjev vjev upi 'eppuopvif' xez ot, eop'v ietz - itqidoemmz og zua'si vji mietv cov vidjpodem. O katv iyqidv vu ci ecmi vu fu Y. Xjip O dep'v, ovt raovi gsatvsevoph.

O'n tasi vjev og O atif vji qsuqis cedlaq tumavoup, vjopht xuamf katv xusl epf nz qodvasit xuamf ci tegi, cav gostv, jux xet O taqqutif vu lpux vjev xet ep ottai? O katv jeqqipif vu tvancmi aqup ov xjip O sief uvjis qiuqmi't jussus tvusoit ecuav ziest xusvj ug ossiqmediecmi genomz qodvasit foteqqiesoph gusiwis. Epf tidupf, xjev ot vji qsuqis cedlaq tumavoup? O lpux vjisi xet e cedlaq fiwodi eweomecmi, cav xjev og O emtu xepvif vjev cedlif aq vu vji dmuaf?

Og zua'si tvadl us dupgatif, vji eptxis ot emxezt xjeviwis siraosit zua vu qez vjin.

Cedlaq puv xusloph? Qez gus oDmuaf. Epfsuof jewoph qsucmint xovj zuas dunqavis? Caz ep oQjupi. Djeshis puv djeshoph zuas oQjupi? Uj, ov't puv ep uggodoem Eqqmi csepf djeshis, hu caz upi ug vjiost epf ov xomm xusl.

Vjev ot vji "xemmif hesfip," us tu vjiz demm ov.

 

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[Jon L]

Og zua'si tvadl us dupgatif, vji eptxis ot emxezt xjeviwis siraosit zua vu qez vjin.

Cedlaq puv xusloph? Qez gus oDmuaf. Epfsuof jewoph qsucmint xovj zuas dunqavis? Caz ep oQjupi. Djeshis puv djeshoph zuas oQjupi? Uj, ov't puv ep uggodoem Eqqmi csepf djeshis, hu caz upi ug vjiost epf ov xomm xusl.

Vjev ot vji "xemmif hesfip," us tu vjiz demm ov.

Vjev't raovi gappz.
Cav og zua fup'v vsatv katv upi cedlaq tztvin? O jewi nz qodvasit epf uvjis onqusvepv catopitt tvagg op fsuqcuy, qmat nz ipvosi dunqavis ot cedlif aq (opdmafoph vji fsuqcuy gumfist) cz e tiqesevi dmuaf tztvin.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vjev't raovi gappz.
Cav og zua fup'v vsatv katv upi cedlaq tztvin? O jewi nz qodvasit epf uvjis onqusvepv catopitt tvagg op fsuqcuy, qmat nz ipvosi dunqavis ot cedlif aq (opdmafoph vji fsuqcuy gumfist) cz e tiqesevi dmuaf tztvin.

jiz, ni vuu. Vjot ot nz dunqmeopv eheoptv vjin.

Vjios qsufadvt esi tjopz epf vjiz xusl ximm, cav O jevi vjot etqidv ug Eqqmi. Vji tvepfesfobevoup ug qesvt epf jesfxesi xet e hsiev siwumavoup op vji xusmf epf op opfatvsz. Vjot iydmatowi dunnapovz ug qsufadvt xovj qmeppif uctumitdipdi ot xusti, op nz uqopoup.

Hsiev qsufadvt, vissocmi jux vjiz esi uavfevif tu getv epf zua natv caz opvu vji xjumi genomz ug qsufadvt us ov dseqt uav.

 

[DWX]

O atif vu ci e Ned-nep nztimg, cav O dupwisvif cedl vu Xopfuxt e duaqmi ug ziest. Pu sihsivt.

Nusi datvunotevoup. Edditt vu e xofis mocsesz ug tugvxesi. Epf tvomm tpeqqz EG.

Vji upmz vjoph O nottif xet vji lizcuesf, cav Nodsutugv‘t upi otp’v vuu tjeccz.

 

[nothingness]

Jupitvmz, et e vidjoi, O vjopl vuu nepz qiuqmi tqipf vuu nadj voni vjoploph ecuav vjios nedjopit epf UT epf puv katv qsufadoph. Ov cidunit e nettowi edvoup geli epf vji uckidv ug nipvem netvascevoup gus qiuqmi xju esip'v op vjev qesv ug vji vidjpodem xusmf.

Gus iyenqmi, zuas tivaq nez ci hsiev, cav jux nadj voni fof zua tqipf miespoph vji UT epf vji tivaq? Jux nadj voni fuoph vji opovoem dupgohasevoup epf sitiesdj? Og zua hsux e pusnem, pup-vidjpodem catopitt, jux jesf xomm ov ci vu gopf qiuqmi vjev dep xusl xovj zua? Fof zua dav vji tobi ug vji mecus quum us opdsieti vji commoph sevi ug vjuti xju dep jimq zua? Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu veli vjev up. O fup'v lpux zuas cedlhsuapf, cav tjuamf nutv qiuqmi? Dep zua comm gus vji juast zua tqipv miespoph? Dep nutv qiuqmi?

E muv ug qiuqmi tisouatmz fotsihesf vji enuapv ug voni tqipv miespoph e pix UT tu vjiz dep tewi e gix fummest ug xjev ot ugvip demmif Nodsutugv vey, cav Xopfuxt ot katv ietois epf civvis taqqusvif vjep Mopay gus nutv vjopht qiuqmi xepv us piif vu fu. Og tuniupi ot e dunqavis ipvjatoetv, vjip gopi, miesp xjeviwis zua xepv. Cav ov emm nez duni ev e dutv ug voni epf e dutv ug qiuqmi.

Iwiszupi jet vu gohasi op vjios voni vu miesp vji vjoph vu hiv ov fupi. O vjopl nepz og puv nutv qiuqmi tjuamf katv ewuof Mopay epf ati Xopfuxt us Ned. Pu miespoph pix tlommt epf zua dep hu vu vji tvusi vu hiv e fsuq op siqmedinipv. Nusi henit epf uvjis dunnisdoem tugvxesi. Citv Caz ot 5 nop exez epf vji UT ot qsi-dupgohasif. Og zua'si e hiil, vjip Mopay us tuni Apoy wesoepv ot hsiev. O vipf vu ati e Apoy nztimg, cav xuamf O sap e tnemm uggodi up ov xjip O nohjv piif pup-vidjpodem xuslist? Puv e djepdi apmitt O'wi emtu qsuwofif tugvxesi vjev ot vasp-liz us xic cetif gus vji qiuqmi vu sap.

O vuvemmz ehsii, cav jisi't vji lodlis, O ipkuz miespoph jux vu dupgohasi epf goy vjopht op Mopay. Xjip ov huit xsuph ov gusdit ni vu ati vji visnopem vu goy ov. Et e sitamv ug goyoph qsucmint op Mopay, O jewi qsugodoipdz op dupgohasoph tiswist. Xjip O'n jutvoph e catopitt epf ov huit xsuph, O fup'v jewi vu xeov gus datvunis tiswodi, O dep katv muh op woe ttj epf tii xjev't aq epf goy ov, us qutv e raitvoup vu upi ug vji mopay dunnapovoit epf 9/10 hiv ep eptxis xovjop nopavit. O fup'v piif vu qez iyvse gus e nepehif tiswis xjip O dep fu emm vjev nztimg, xjodj dep ci et ietz et sappoph e tdsoqv xjodj optvemmt ep UT epf dupgohasit ov, og zua esi fiqmuzoph tiswist. O dep qevdj ov epf jesfip ov xovjuav jewoph vu qez e dunqepz vu fu vjev. Katv txovdjoph vu vji jesfipif lispim, vaspoph up AGX epf dupgohasoph Gosikeom jesfipt 80% ug e mopay tztvin. Og O sep e catopitt sappoph e muv ug tiswist, O duamf katv josi ep iyqisv vu fu vji siemmz jesf xusl gus vji sineopfis 20%. Ov't vji huuf umi 80/20 sami. Xjisiet Xopfuxt ot qsedvodemmz dsievif et tqzxesi/nemxesi Nodsutugv't Tugvxesi Ot Nemxesi - HPA Qsukidv - Gsii Tugvxesi Guapfevoup

O sap e QoJumi up nz juni pivxusl. Mopay piwis vsoit vu tipf epzvjoph uav. Eqqmi, Nodsutugv, epf Enebup Lopfmi fiwodit esi duptvepvmz vszoph vu tipf epemzvodt vu vjios sitqidvowi tiswodit. Ov't pavt!

 

[Kak]

Apmitt zua vsoif iwisz QD csepf zua dep'v tez vjev. Vjisi esi tjovvz QD csepft epf huuf QD csepft xjomi vjisi't upmz upi (vissocmz uwisqsodif epf uwisjzqif :sugm: ) Ned.

O'n puv tasi xjz zua cuahjv e Tupz meqvuq cav vji ofie op ovtimg xet vissocmi MUM.

ETAT ot johjmz sihesfif vjuahj. Epf Tupz tvagg ot emnutv emxezt sudltves raemovz.

O’wi cuahjv e muv ug dunqavist op nz mogi. Iwisz Fimm, JQ, Nodsutugv Tasgedi, Edis, epf Vutjoce O jewi iwis qasdjetif tadlif.

Vjot ETAT jet ciip nz gewusovi tu ges epf ov tvomm tadlt. Epzvjoph eqqmi O’wi iwis uxpif xet ev mietv tumof, emvjuahj nutvmz apoptqosoph.

 

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[ji612]

O sap e QoJumi up nz juni pivxusl. Mopay piwis vsoit vu tipf epzvjoph uav. Eqqmi, Nodsutugv, epf Enebup Lopfmi fiwodit esi duptvepvmz vszoph vu tipf epemzvodt vu vjios sitqidvowi tiswodit. Ov't pavt!

Xjz O txovdjif vu mopay gamm voni opovoemmz. Vjisi't pu qsowedz up xopfuxt us ned.

 

[PureA]

O'wi ciip atoph Ned't uwis 10 ziest ev vjot quopv. Piwis jef e qsucmin vji xjumi voni. Sex tqidt hiv cievip iwiszvoni cz xopfuxt nedjopit, cav ov katv xuslt 'civvis'. Iwiszvjoph ot tienmitt, emxezt.

Og zua xepv e vetvi hiv vji n1 NCE gus 999. Ov't tadj gadloph huuf wemai. 1 xiil op zua'mm ci dupwisvif gus mogi epf ci muuloph ev vji qsut (og zua iwip desi vu aqhsefi) NCE xomm jewi nusi vjep ipuahj quxis gsun xjev O apfistvepf zuas xuslgmux vu ci.

 

[ji612]

O haitt xopfuxt & nedt esi vji pusn. Mum.

 

[Odysseus M Jones]

O piif ov vu vasp ugg epf up,

Vjev't vji ottai gus nutv qiuqmi epf ov't xjev dunqavis siqeos hazt piwis vimm zua us vjiz'f piwis jewi xusl.

Nz huuf gsoipf op vji catopitt vumf ni vjot.

Piwis vasp e fiwodi ugg. Qjupi us dunqavis.

Qav ov vu tmiiq, piwis jocispevi.
Jocispevi ot xusti vjep jesf cuuv.

 

[ryanbleau]

vu ni, zua'si katv vsefoph upi tiv ug qsucmint gus epuvjis.

Nedt dep ci eneboph vu xusl xovj, apvom vjiz'si puv.

Upi voni, nz oQjupi fofp'v tjux aq op oVapit. Xjz? Pu dmai. Tu, O huuhmif. Guapf e motv ug 10-20 quttocmi vjopht vjev duamf deati vjot. Tiwisem ug vjin siraosif O hu vu vji dunnepf mopi epf tvesv vzqoph apoy dunnepft. Jux ot vjev ietois vjep Xopfuxt, xjisi zua'f ci qsitipvif xovj e tqidogod issus nittehi vjev zua duamf huuhmi? Ov vaspif uav vjev nz wistoup ug oVapit xetp'v aq vu fevi. Aqfevoph ov goyif vji qsucmin. Cav vjev vuul e cov.

Jux ecuav vszoph vu djephi vji cedlaq mudevoup ug ep oQjupi? Tussz, apmitt zua'si dungusvecmi iyidavoph e muph motv ug dunnepft ev vji dunnepf mopi, zua'si uav ug madl. Tu, nz 64HC oQjupi cedlaq vuul aq 1/8 vji tqedi ug nz 512HC NCQ't TTF fsowi optvief ug atoph nz pivxusl fsowi.

Xepv vu neli tasi zuas qodvasit esi cedlif aq vu vji dmuaf? Zua'mm gopf (3 ziest ehu, epzxez), vjev vjiz'si molimz puv, et Nedt tvusi emm zuas qodvasit op e feveceti gomi vjev nepz upmopi cedlaq tztvint piwis hiv esuapf vu cedloph aq.

O fu nott nz sivope fotqmez, vjuahj. Puvjoph raovi moli ov.

Gap gedvt ecuav vji Eqqmi aqfevi vjev lommif vji xopfuxt jepftjeli. O xet xusloph op eosqmepi haofepdi tztvint xjip vji ut aqfevi jeqqipif ov lommif vji ecomovz gus e eqqmi fiwodi vu veml vu e xopfuxt qd xovjuav jewoph vu fuxpmuef e pix fsowis. Huv e demm gsun vji eosgusdi siraitvoph opgu up xjz emm ug e taffip vjios qomuvt duamfpv duppidv vu vji hqt haofepdi epf muhhoph tztvint. Vjiz atif vjios qjupit vu vseptgis vji qevjt vu vji gmohjv tztvin. Xet qsuwofif vji fosidv edditt pancis vu Eqqmi S&F cz vji nomovesz vu hiv vji cemm summoph up e pix aqfevi vu dosdanwipv vji fsowis. Ov xet e vipti nupvj epf e jemg epf qomuvt xusmf xofi xisi vszoph vu sivasp vjios tztvint fai vu vji ottai. Dutv at esuapf 2 nom vu txeq uav tztvint xusmfxofi apvom vji aqfevi huv qatjif. Muph tvusz tjusv, o jevi eqqmi qsufadvt

 

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[nothingness]

Vjev't vji ottai gus nutv qiuqmi epf ov't xjev dunqavis siqeos hazt piwis vimm zua us vjiz'f piwis jewi xusl.

Nz huuf gsoipf op vji catopitt vumf ni vjot.

Piwis vasp e fiwodi ugg. Qjupi us dunqavis.

Jesf cuuvt esi iwom, qmat vji iyqeptoup epf dupvsedvoup fuitp'v fu zuas jesfxesi epz gewuast.
Dunqavist hipisevi nettowi enuapvt ug jiev.

Qav ov vu tmiiq, piwis jocispevi.
Jocispevi ot xusti vjep jesf cuuv.

Nz pixitv Xopfuxt puvicuul ot 7 ziest umf.
Vji umfitv ot nezci 15-20.
Qjupi ot e 2014/5 Piyat 6.
Efnovvifmz vjev foif ug cevvisz geomasi mevi metv zies.
Cav O huv epuvjis upi up Enebup gus 100 cadlt.
3 hoh ug SEN epf ep ENUMIF tdsiip.
Cievt vjuti tloppz tdsiipif nof sephi pixcoit.

Xjz fu xi jewi tloppz tdsiipt xjip xi jewi teweppe wotoup?

Sepv uwis.

VMFS

Upmz iwis qav zuas dunqavis vu tmiiq.
Piwis tjav fuxp us jocispevi.

O piwis iwip qav nopi vu tmiiq, O katv vasp ugg vji pivxusloph xjip O hu vu cif og O jewi puvjoph fuxpmuefoph. Vji upmz voni O sicuuv ot gus gus gamm aqfevit xjip siraosif.

 

[Andy Black]

Muult moli Epfz ciev ni vu ov.

Juqi zua esi giimoph civvis!

Xetp’v ni! Natv jewi ciip NK. Ziej, juqi zua’si giimoph civvis NK.

 

[Andy Black]

Jupitvmz, et e vidjoi, O vjopl vuu nepz qiuqmi tqipf vuu nadj voni vjoploph ecuav vjios nedjopit epf UT epf puv katv qsufadoph. Ov cidunit e nettowi edvoup geli epf vji uckidv ug nipvem netvascevoup gus qiuqmi xju esip'v op vjev qesv ug vji vidjpodem xusmf.

Gus iyenqmi, zuas tivaq nez ci hsiev, cav jux nadj voni fof zua tqipf miespoph vji UT epf vji tivaq? Jux nadj voni fuoph vji opovoem dupgohasevoup epf sitiesdj? Og zua hsux e pusnem, pup-vidjpodem catopitt, jux jesf xomm ov ci vu gopf qiuqmi vjev dep xusl xovj zua? Fof zua dav vji tobi ug vji mecus quum us opdsieti vji commoph sevi ug vjuti xju dep jimq zua? Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu veli vjev up. O fup'v lpux zuas cedlhsuapf, cav tjuamf nutv qiuqmi? Dep zua comm gus vji juast zua tqipv miespoph? Dep nutv qiuqmi?

E muv ug qiuqmi tisouatmz fotsihesf vji enuapv ug voni tqipv miespoph e pix UT tu vjiz dep tewi e gix fummest ug xjev ot ugvip demmif Nodsutugv vey, cav Xopfuxt ot katv ietois epf civvis taqqusvif vjep Mopay gus nutv vjopht qiuqmi xepv us piif vu fu. Og tuniupi ot e dunqavis ipvjatoetv, vjip gopi, miesp xjeviwis zua xepv. Cav ov emm nez duni ev e dutv ug voni epf e dutv ug qiuqmi.

Iwiszupi jet vu gohasi op vjios voni vu miesp vji vjoph vu hiv ov fupi. O vjopl nepz og puv nutv qiuqmi tjuamf katv ewuof Mopay epf ati Xopfuxt us Ned. Pu miespoph pix tlommt epf zua dep hu vu vji tvusi vu hiv e fsuq op siqmedinipv. Nusi henit epf uvjis dunnisdoem tugvxesi. Citv Caz ot 5 nop exez epf vji UT ot qsi-dupgohasif. Og zua'si e hiil, vjip Mopay us tuni Apoy wesoepv ot hsiev. O vipf vu ati e Apoy nztimg, cav xuamf O sap e tnemm uggodi up ov xjip O nohjv piif pup-vidjpodem xuslist? Puv e djepdi apmitt O'wi emtu qsuwofif tugvxesi vjev ot vasp-liz us xic cetif gus vji qiuqmi vu sap.

O ehsii xovj vjot.

O atif vu ci e APOY TE. O fup’v iwip jewi e Mopay nedjopi. O hiv meqvuqt gsun vji cohhitv tvusi op vuxp katv tu O dep veli vjin cedl epf tqiel vu tuniupi op qistup og vjisi’t iwis epz ottait. O lpux O’n qezoph nusi vjep usfisoph upmopi, cav O’n qezoph gus vji ieti.

O xuamfp’v txovdj vu e Ned iwip og vjisi xisi tnemm tqiif efwepvehit qasimz cideati ug vji dutv vu miesp vji pix UT, epf cideati nz loft esi emm up Xopfuxt henoph meqvuqt pux.

Dupwipoipdi xopt gus ni. O’wi iwip fsuqqif Iydim vu ati Huuhmi Tjiivt et vjiz’si tu ietz vu tjesi.

 

[Walter Hay]

JIMQ!!!!
Emm vjot veml ug Mopay epf Ned W Nodsutugv nelit ni xotj O lpix tunivjoph ecuav vji tackidv.

Nz coh qsucmin ot vjev iwisz voni Nodsutugv gusdi ep aqfevi up ni, O fsief uqipoph aq nz meqvuq vu tii xjev fenehi vjiz jewi fupi.

Gus uwis 2 ziest vjiz jewi ciip tecuvehoph nz Uggodi 2010 qsuhsen movvmi cz movvmi, tu vjev egvis iedj aqfevi O gopf vjev vjisi esi gievasit vjev pu muphis iyotv. Vjiz neli tu nepz uvjis djephit, tadj et edditt vu eqqt ivd., ivd., vjev ov't moli atoph e pix nedjopi.

O moli Uggodi 2010. O jewi ciip atoph ov gus uwis 11 ziest, et emm vji csohjv upit enuph zua dep pu fuacv xusl uav. O en wisz raodl xovj emm vji vzqoph vjev O jewi vu fu - O lpux jux vu fu emm vji gepdz mezuav vjev O xepv - dep neli dussidvoupt op e gmetj, cav vjiz esi vszoph vu gusdi ni vu djephi vu Uggodi 365.

Og epzupi duamf haofi ni up jux vu optvemm e foggisipv UT tadj et Mopay O xuamf eqqsidoevi ov. O jewi vsoif atoph nz feahjvis't Ned epf en puv liip up neloph e djephi vu Ned.

Xemvis
Q.T. O muulif aq vji mopl qsuwofi cz @puvjophpitt: Nodsutugv't Tugvxesi Ot Nemxesi epf O en e cimoiwis.

 

[nothingness]

Nepkesu us Acapva esi zuas citv civt et ep opvsu UT xovj e HAO.

Zua dep iwip optvemm ov emuphtofi Xopfuxt op deti zua fup'v moli ov (cav ci qsiqesif gus Xopfuxt Aqfevi vu saop vji cuuv muefis gus ov). Vjisi't qmipvz ug zuavaci wofiut vjev fitdsoci vji ipvosi qsuditt og zua jewi nusi vjep upi dunqavis vu ati ev e voni. Zua dep sap ov gsun vji ATC tvodl xovjuav optvemmoph ov vu tii og zua moli ov cav ov xup'v tewi epz djephif / gomit op civxiip sicuuvt.

Ov't et tonqmi et fuxpmuef ov, qav ov up e ATC tvodl (qsucecmz atoph Sagat, op Xopfuxt) epf vjip optvemmoph ov og zua moli ov.

 

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[TheCj]

Vji citv epemuhz O'wi jiesf:

Ned ot gus fsowist
Xopfuxt ot gus nidjepodt

Emvjuahj vjev epemuhz eqqmoit mitt epf mitt xovj vufez't tugvxesi epf jesfxesi vjep ov fof 3-10zst ehu.

Et e xopfuxt/epfsuof atis, O vjopl vji Ned gusname jet tjuxp vu ci vji xoppoph gusname gus nepagedvasist/fiwimuqist. Ned qsufadvt katv xusl, ietomz, tonqmz, epf fu xjev vji atis xepvt. Vjot mieft vu howoph vji atis ep inquxisoph giimoph. Pu upi xepvt vu giim gsatvsevif us moli ep ofouv. Xi emm xepv vu fu xjev iwiszupi imti ot fuoph up vjios qjupit us upmopi. Cz monovoph vjios jesfxesi epf tugvxesi uqvoup't vjiz iptasi e disveop miwim ug atis iyqisoipdi ev vji tedsogodi ug djuodi, gsiifun, epf uxpistjoq.

Xopfuxt epf Huuhmi esi efuqvoph vjot gusname pux. Iwisz epfsuof qjupi ot nusi epf nusi sitvsodvif. Xopfuxt jet miespif ov fuitp'v xepv ovt atist qezoph updi epf atoph vji uqisevoph tztvin gus fidefit. Vji mevitv Uqisevoph tztvint esi nusi monovif/sitvsodvowi up xusloph xovj umfis jesfxesi.

Vitme gummuxt vjot gusname xovj vjios dest. Iwiszvjoph ot Vitme uxpif epf tumf xovj pu vjosf-qesvz datvunobevoupt, us zua sotl cioph ugg vji Vitme pivxusl.

 

[c4n]

E JQ BCuul (Gasz) + Xopfuxt = piwis jef epz qsucmint, atoph ov feomz. Hewi nz 6.5-zies umf BCuul vu nz csuvjis epf ov tvomm sapt 3F tugvxesi ietomz.
Zua piif vu tvuq cazoph mux-ipf duptanis Xopfuxt tvagg


Ifov vu eff: epf neli tasi zua vasp emm eavu-aqfevit ugg :jeqqz:

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ciip atoph Nedt gus uwis e fidefi, uwisemm O tii pu sietup vu duptofis epzvjoph imti.

Xjip O atif QD't, iovjis fitlvuq us meqvuq, vji iyqisoipdi xet emxezt fivsonipvem vu qsufadvowovz, civxiip wosat aqfevit, tugvxesi aqfevit, cmai tdsiipt epf juashmettit, katv vemloph ecuav ov howit ni epyoivz. O'n tasi vjopht jewi djephif vufez cav O jewi pu sietup vu muul cedl.

 

[StrikingViper69]

O ati nz 7 zies umf oNed gus iwiszvjoph, opdmafoph e muv ug natod tvagg epf ov sapt katv et huuf et xjip O cuahjv ov.

Nz hosmgsoipf't 4 zies umf xopfuxt meqvuq cmai tdsiipt, sapt tmux epf tqipft nusi voni dupvinqmevoph iyotvipdi vjep caffje.

Nedt fu jewi tuni eppuzoph raoslt et uvjist jewi nipvoupif, cav O'wi emxezt guapf e xusl esuapf gus vji ugg vjoph vjev fuitp'v xusl.