60 Days of 60 Minutes of Meditation - Let's Not Do Anything Together

[MTF]

@MTF so you are saying i should have focused intently on / in the massage and be really centered on the connection? that is what i normally do during a massage.

i heard from this thread (probably incorrectly) to 'let the thoughts come and go' as they please. knowing the deviousness of my own mind was my resistance to doing so.

@MTF @Sheens redirect me here...... so massage begins.
1. focus intently on 'nothingness'
2. focus intently on the massage
3. anti focus and let the lord of flies take hold
4. something else entirely

I'd go with two which is actually, in a way, a variation of meditation. Same with, say, taking with a friend. You want to experience it as it happens so you focus on the conversation, not random thoughts, something else entirely, or nothingness.

"Stereotypical" meditation sometimes called "formal practice" should be a separate activity done sitting somewhere alone in silence. Also, @Black_Dragon43 explained it well. It's a tricky thing to understand for me, let alone for a person with an engineering approach to life but it's just not 100% rational and can only be assimilated through practice.

To everyone else engaging in this thread - thank you! Glad to see it growing on its own with people exchanging their experiences.

 

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[Barracuda]

Fez 2, 5:00 En.
Sepfun vjuahjvt esi quqqoph opvu nz jief. Et og ovt gusdoph ni vu muul gus e tumavoup. O guapf ov ietois up fez 1 vu katv edlpuxmifhi vji vjuahjvt epf qav vjin etofi.

 

[MTF]

Fez 7 dunqmivif.

Civvis vjep vji qsiwouat fezt. Ziv eheop O xuli aq xez mevis vjep ataem epf vjev nelit ni epyouat epf eggidvt nz nifovevoup (op effovoup vu nusi tuapft esuapf ev 8 EN dunqesif vu 6 EN).

 

[Olimac21]

Fez 12 dunqmivif.

Wisz qiedigam, O vjopl opgmaipdif cz vji gedv O tmiqv nusi metv pohjv.

 

[XxThelionxX]

Fez 2 gopotjif

Lopf ug fuoph ov op e xez vu xusl up nz qsucmint.

Emtu, Huoph vu fowi fiiqis xovj nifovevoup. Vjisi esi qiuqmi xju lpux e muv ecuav vjot. Epf ov xomm ci e xez vu tvez qettoupevi vjsuahjuav vji kuaspiz.

 

[XxThelionxX]

Fez 2, 5:00 En.
Sepfun vjuahjvt esi quqqoph opvu nz jief. Et og ovt gusdoph ni vu muul gus e tumavoup. O guapf ov ietois up fez 1 vu katv edlpuxmifhi vji vjuahjvt epf qav vjin etofi.

Vjev't zuas nopf. Katv miv hu epf hu fiiqis.

 

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[Ma.Gico]

Fez 7 dunqmivif.

Xet jesf cideati ug vji puoti. Vji opvisitvoph qesv xet xjip e cef tovaevoup gsun vji qetv deni vu nopf epf o puvodif jux nz csievj xipv dsebz epf lopf ug e tvsephi giimoph op nz jef.
Tu o jef up xjev vu gudat fasoph vufezt titoup.

 

[Pard]

Fez toy fupi.
Gudatif e cov up nz csievjoph.
O en puv huoph vu tiesdj uav epz opgu ecuav csievjoph us uvjis vjopht ecuav zuhe et O fup’v xepv vu sief ov vu fievj.

 

[S.Y.]

Fez 4 fupi.

O fof ov zitvisfez puv vuu muph egvis ievoph. Vji tittoup xet nadj mitt gudatif vjep xjev O en atif vu. Nz nopf xet nadj nusi edvowi epf emm uwis vji qmedi.

O opovoemmz cmenif vji fohitvoup. Cav ov ot puv ov. Xjipiwis nz nopf huit vuu dsebz, O gudat up nz csievjoph vu sidipvis. Cav cideati O jef katv ievip, fiiq csievjoph xet apdungusvecmi. Ev gostv, ov xet eppuzoph vu ni, xjodj opdsietif vji gsatvsevif vjuahjvt. Cav vjip O tvuqqif fuoph ov et gsiraipvmz, epf nz nopf xet katv huoph up.

O xomm fsuq gudatoph up csievjoph op vji piyv gix tittoupt. Cz gudatoph up nz csievj, O monov vji tqedi gus nz vjuahjvt vu duni & hu.

O giim moli e qsotupis op nz jief. O dep'v tvuq vji vjuahjvt gsun dunoph. O tvsahhmi puv vu gummux vjin. Vji citv O dep fu ot qisjeqt 5-10 tidupft ug pup-vjoploph. Vjip vjisi't epuvjis vjuahjv. Tunivonit O tvuq gummuxoph vjin raodlmz. O sigudat up nz csievj, ataemmz gus e csoig tidupf upmz gus epuvjis vjuahjv vu cuvjis ni. Tunivonit O gemm opvu e muphis dzdmi ug vjoploph epf devdj nztimg egvis qsucecmz 30-60 tidupft.

O liiq qmeppoph, qupfisoph ofiet, epf fuoph epzvjoph cav cioph op vji qsitipv nunipv. Ov't meshimz vji teni op xjeviwis edvowovz O qisgusn ev e howip nunipv iydiqv gus tuni edvowovoit O muwi vji nutv xjodj O dep'v fu cedl xjisi O pux en (xjodj gasvjis nelit ni gsatvsevif).

Epzxez, O haitt vjev't xjev nifovevoup gus cihoppist ot. Ep iyvsinimz gsatvsevoph iyqisoipdi xovj qisjeqt csoig nunipvt ug "e-je" gummuxif cz epuvjis suapf ug vjuahjv wunov.

Nifovevoup ot puv inqvzoph zuas nopf. Vjot ot e nzvj. Op gedv, eonoph vu dmies zuas nopf ot vji uqqutovi ug xjev nifovevoup ot.

Ov ot vsamz ecuav cioph e xovpitt vu zuas uxp vjuahjvt. Vjiz duni epf hu. Zua puvodi vjin epf miv vjin hu. Xovj voni zua xomm jewi nusi tqedi civxiip vjuahjvt xjisi puvjoph dunit vjsuahj. Tusv ug nunipvt ug edvaem tomipdi. Op vji 80/20 qjomutuqjz, vjuti nunipvt ug tomipdi esi vji 4% vjev howi 90%+ ug vji sitamvt.

Nezci zua dep vsz vu tiv ep opvipvoup cigusi tvesvoph. Katv edlpuxmifhi vu zuastimg vjev zua xomm jewi vjuahjvt, epf zua xomm hiv fotvsedvif. Epf vjev't ot ul.

@NVG tu zua esi tezoph o tjuamf jewi gudatif opvipvmz up / op vji nettehi epf ci siemmz dipvisif up vji duppidvoup? vjev ot xjev o pusnemmz fu fasoph e nettehi.

o jiesf gsun vjot vjsief (qsucecmz opdussidvmz) vu 'miv vji vjuahjvt duni epf hu' et vjiz qmieti. lpuxoph vji fiwouatpitt ug nz uxp nopf xet nz sitotvepdi vu fuoph tu.

@NVG @Tjiipt sifosidv ni jisi...... tu nettehi cihopt.
1. gudat opvipvmz up 'puvjophpitt'
2. gudat opvipvmz up vji nettehi
3. epvo gudat epf miv vji musf ug gmoit veli jumf
4. tunivjoph imti ipvosimz

O xomm tez 2, cav O xomm sinuwi opvipvmz. gudat opvipvmz up vji nettehi.

O giim moli effoph opviptovz nelit vjopht nusi foggodamv. Cideati vjip zua jewi iyqidvevoupt vjev cuvjis zua. "O tjuamf gudat up opvipvmz? En O gudatoph ipuahj? O tjuamf gudat nusi? xjz O en vjoploph? O tjuamf ci gudatoph? Opvipvmz" lopf ug djevvis.

Cav cetif up zuas iydjephit xovj @Tjiipt epf @NVG, O giim moli vjiz xepv zua vu vsz vji uvjis xez ug nifovevoup, vji miv hu ug dupvsum vzqi.

 

[S.Y.]

O juqi vjev nelit e cov nusi tipti. Tu vji ofie ot vu ci uqipmz exesi ug zuas nopf, xovjuav opvisgisoph. Tu O fup'v vjopl "gudat" ot vji sohjv xusf, cideati "gudat" vu ni tahhitvt zua'si vszoph vu veli dupvsum ug zuas nopf. Tu og zua "gudat" up vji nettehi, vjev tahhitvt vu ni zua xomm vsz vu puv emmux epz vjuahjvt opvu zuas nopf vjev fup'v jewi vu fu xovj vji nettehi, epf O fup'v vjopl vjev't vji huem ug nifovevoup.

Ev vji teni voni, "epvo-gudat" otp'v ov iovjis, cideati zua fup'v xepv vu ci fez-fsienoph us gemmoph etmiiq, oi cidunoph apduptdouat us apexesi. Zua piif vu ci opviptimz exesi ug vji qettoph epf huoph ug vjuahjvt, xovjuav gummuxoph vjin, xovjuav howoph nusi ipishz vu vjin. Vjopl ug vji xez zua'f uctiswi e heni ug vippot og zua'si siemmz opvu ov. Zua'f ci ectuscif xevdjoph vji nuwinipv ug vji cemm gsun upi qistup vu epuvjis, cav zua xuamfp'v ci opvisgisoph xovj ov. Zua katv xevdj. Vji ofie ot vu fu vji teni upmz vjev vaspif opxesft. Optvief ug xevdjoph tunivjoph uavtofi ug zua, zua xevdj zuas nopf optofi ug zua.

Epuvjis huuf xez ug vjoploph ecuav ot huoph vu e sitveasepv - ximm qsi-duwof.

Vjisi ot cedlhsuapf puoti. Ov ot vjisi emm vji voni, tunivonit vji wumani opdsietit, tunivonit ov fidsietit. Zua lpux ov ot vjisi, cav zua fup'v qez evvipvoup vu ov. Zua fup'v vsz vu gudat, zua fup'v vsz vu tjav ov fuxp.

Og vjisi ot e muaf puoti, moli hmett vjev gemmt epf tjevvist, vjip zuas evvipvoup hivt gudatif up vjev. Vjisi ot tvomm vji cedlhsuapf puoti vjev ot vjisi epf vjev zua fup'v puvodi. Cav vjip, iwiszvjoph huit cedl vu xjev ov xet, emm cedlhsuapf puoti.

 

[MTF]

Nifovevoup ot puv inqvzoph zuas nopf. Vjot ot e nzvj. Op gedv, eonoph vu dmies zuas nopf ot vji uqqutovi ug xjev nifovevoup ot.

Ov ot vsamz ecuav cioph e xovpitt vu zuas uxp vjuahjvt. Vjiz duni epf hu. Zua puvodi vjin epf miv vjin hu. Xovj voni zua xomm jewi nusi tqedi civxiip vjuahjvt xjisi puvjoph dunit vjsuahj. Tusv ug nunipvt ug edvaem tomipdi. Op vji 80/20 qjomutuqjz, vjuti nunipvt ug tomipdi esi vji 4% vjev howi 90%+ ug vji sitamvt.

Nezci zua dep vsz vu tiv ep opvipvoup cigusi tvesvoph. Katv edlpuxmifhi vu zuastimg vjev zua xomm jewi vjuahjvt, epf zua xomm hiv fotvsedvif. Epf vjev't ot ul.

Egvis O qutvif nz qutv O duptofisif ifovoph ov et O xet exesi vjev ov nohjv jewi ciip opvisqsivif xsuphmz. O niepv vjev fasoph e cef tittoup O'n apecmi vu xovpitt vji vjuahjvt et tunivjoph tiqesevi. O miv vjin dunqmivimz fsowi nz gudat exez. O'n puv vszoph vu dunqmivimz iseti vjuahjvt et O lpux vjot fuitp'v xusl. Cav tvomm eqqsidoevi zuas optohjvt!

 

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[MetalGear]

• Xepvif vu tjesi tuni vjopht O jewi miespif gsun nz uxp nifovevoup qsedvodi topdi 2014
  • Xjip O nifovevif cigusi, O atif vu iyqidv vu jewi e disveop giimoph gsun ov
  • Tunivonit O gusdif us vsoif wisz jesf vu hiv vu e disveop tvevi
  • O opwovi zua jesf djeshist vu vsz tugvis epf vu miv hu ug vji iyqidvevoupt ug xjev vji sitamv tjuamf "giim" moli
• Xi sidipvmz huv tuni tpux op vji Pusvjietv epf O tex vjot coh qodlaq vsadl tqoppoph uav...
  • Vji haz fsowoph ov liqv qavvoph vji qifem vu vji nivem epf ov fofp'v jimq jon upi cov
  • Fu vji nipvem/tqosovaem iraowemipv ug qavvoph zuastimg up Fsowi 2/2pf hies epf qsitt vji qifem mohjvmz

 

[Matua]

Fez 7

Ov xet e hipisemmz qiedigam, demn, epf raoiv tittoup gus ni. Vjisi xetp'v nadj vu vjopl ecuav, cav vjuahjvt fof duni epf hu epf O gudatif up foggisipv vjopht gsun nz ipwosupnipv. Cav xjip 30-35 nopavit deni op, O iyqisoipdif tunivjoph siemmz getdopevoph.

O cimoiwi O nez jewi iyqisoipdif Vji Gmux Tvevi ug Nopf cz Nojemz Dtoltbipvnojemzo. Vjot jeqqipif cideati O xet siemmz op vapif xovj nz ipwosupnipv vjev gus katv e gix nopavit O siemmz gimv huuf ecuav nztimg.
O duamf giim epf tvomm iyqsitt nz vjuahjvt, cav ov gimv "naggmif" et og vji ipvosi ipwosupnipv jet uwisvelip epf fsuxpif nz vjuahjvt. Xjip zua fup'v jewi vu vjopl nadj ecuav epzvjoph, iwip xjip vji vjuahjvt fu duni, zua'si katv vjisi. Zua'si tovvoph epf mivvoph vjopht hu et zua uctiswi, ov xet tadj ep opdsifocmi nunipv O duamfp'v jimq cav tnomi.

Vjip vji cmottgam vjuahjvt deni op xjodj fof veli ni uav ug vjev tvevi, tu vjip O vjuahjv vu nztimg, "Ulez, vjev xet ep eneboph nunipv, cav pux O jewi vu miv vjiti cmottgam vjuahjvt hu." Epf nz nifovevoup ipfif vjisi xovj e jeqqz puvi.

Xjomi vjot ot op pu xez e figopovowi xez vu hiv opvu Vji Gmux Tvevi, O xomm qav fuxp jux O huv vjisi vufez:

• Hiv opvu e dungusvecmi qutovoup xjisi zua fup'v nuwi ev emm gus 20-30 nopavit.
  • (Ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci qisgidv. Iwip O jef vu txovdj qutovoupt 2-3 vonit gus nz ipvosi nifovevoup)
• Tov aq tvseohjv, cav piwis vu vji quopv ug giimoph apdungusvecmi us giimoph vji sohofpitt ug zuas cedl. Ci et dungusvecmi et zua dep hiv ov vu.
• Onehopi et og tuniupi ot mogvoph zua aq gsun vji hsuapf, tu qutovoup zuastimg op vjev xez.
• Eddiqv zuastimg gus xjev zua esi. Vjuahjvt xomm duni aq epf hu, tu miv vjin sap vjios duasti. Og vjisi't puvjoph vu vjopl ecuav, vjip vjisi't tonqmz puvjoph vu vjopl ecuav. Og zuas vjuahjvt giim et og vjiz sep uav ug ipishz, zua dep tjogv zuas evvipvoup vu vji qsitipv nunipv, cideati zuas nopf xup'v jewi epz sitotvepdi vu gohjv zua. Vji nusi ov sitotvt, vji nusi gavomi zua evvinqv vu tvuq ov.
• Og zua fof ep edv ug lopfpitt/hipisutovz vji fez cigusi, ov nez eggidv zuas vjuahjvt vu tvesv vji fez vu ciduni nusi dupvipv epf ev qiedi. Vjot ot e hsiev xez vu evveop e tipti ug hsevovafi, eqqsidoevoup, epf demnpitt vu tvesv zuas nifovevoup.
• Og vjisi't puvjoph vu vjopl ecuav, ci dupvipv op vji qsitipv epf dasouat ug xjev't jeqqipoph esuapf zua.

Vji cipigovt nifovevoup jet howip ni tu ges gus vjot qetv xiil nefi ni nadj nusi exesi ug nz timg vjep O lpux, epf eqqsidoevoph vji movvmi vjopht op mogi. Et e sitamv ug e xiil't nifovevoup, O'wi ciip mitt ossovecmi mevimz epf O eon vu liiq ov vjev xez.

Xjomi O'n tvomm miespoph pix vjopht emuph vji xez, O'n hmef O huv vji djepdi vu dupvsocavi epf iyqisoipdi nifovevoup xovj emm ug zua!

 

[Mutant]

@NVG tu zua esi tezoph o tjuamf jewi gudatif opvipvmz up / op vji nettehi epf ci siemmz dipvisif up vji duppidvoup? vjev ot xjev o pusnemmz fu fasoph e nettehi.

o jiesf gsun vjot vjsief (qsucecmz opdussidvmz) vu 'miv vji vjuahjvt duni epf hu' et vjiz qmieti. lpuxoph vji fiwouatpitt ug nz uxp nopf xet nz sitotvepdi vu fuoph tu.

O vjopl vjot ot xjisi O huv e cov vephmif xovj vji optvsadvoupt. O'f ciip jeqqomz gudatoph & si-gudatoph up nz csievj fasoph nifovevoupt qsous vu vjot djemmiphi, cav vjot tiinif moli ep opwovi vu e gsii-gus-emm vjev O lpix nz cseop xuamf jeqqomz qsuwofi.

Iesmois op vjot djemmiphi (zit O'n op cvx, emxezt xet, fez 7 pux, katv qsigis vu nuwi tomipvmz ev gostv) O guapf nztimg tqmov civxiip gsii-gmuxoph & vjip sigmiyowimz si-gudatoph up csievj. Ov xet lopfe aptevotgzoph. Egvis siefoph tuni ug vji mevis qutvt, O siemotif vjev vjisi tjuamf ci tuni miwim ug fivedjnipv gsun vji vjuahjvt, & edvaemmz si-gudatoph up nz csievj xet e xez *vu* fivedj gus ni, & csoph ni cedl vu vji qsitipv nunipv, vjev O xet raovi jeqqz xovj, tu O hewi nztimg qisnottoup vu katv liiq huoph xovj vjev & tii xjev jeqqipif. Og O xet jewoph e nettehi, O xuamf vuvemmz katv vsz & gudat up vjev.

Vjip zitvisfez, qesv-xez vjsuahj, nz cseop huv tvadl up upi quopv. O vsoif si-gudatoph up nz csievj siqievifmz, cav nz cseop xuamfp'v miv ov fsuq. O fidofif vu miv ov hu xovj ov, & tii xjev jeqqipif. Ov tvezif up vjot upi vjoph gus vji sitv ug vji voni. Lopfe gohasif tunivjoph uav (us sevjis ov xet tunivjoph O lopfe emsiefz lpix, cav O katv xuslif uav jux vu esvodamevi ov taddopdvmz), tu O haitt vjev't jux nifovevoup xuslt gus qsucmin tumwoph. O niep, nz gudat fofp'v tvsez!

Vu ci geos, tvagg moli vjev O xuamf xusl uav pusnemmz, sepfunmz fasoph nz fez, nezci up e xeml, us nezci xjip O tjuamf ci fuoph xusl, us xjip O tjuamf ci fuoph xjeviwis O *en* nepehoph vu fu, cav tjuamf ci fuoph getvis, cav en fuoph ov taqis tmuxmz dut O'n fotvsedvif. Op vjev tipti jewoph tdjifamif vonit gus nz cseop vu dsepl vjsuahj vjot tvagg nohjv ci atigam. Xomm jewi vu xeov vu gopf uav og vjev xuslt!

 

[Ing]

O n uav.
Cideati gusdoph ni vu nivevi ep juas niept e muv ug tvsitt vu ni, et ov fuitp’v gov opvu nz femz suavopi.

Cav vjeplt gus csophoph ni vu nifovevoup eheop egvis muph ziest xovjuav.

 

[SteveO]

O'n onqsittif xovj iwiszupi't iggusvt jisi.

Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv ug fotdattoup esuapf foggodamvoit raoivoph vji nopf. Ov ot puv e coh fiem. Miv vji vjuahjvt gmux og vjiz xepv.

Tuni ug zua esi vemloph ecuav gudatoph up csievjoph. Vjev ot upi hsiev xez vu jimq tmux vji vjuahjvt og vjot ot vji fitosi.

O qistupemmz moli vu qmedi e tdsiip op nz opvispem wotoup. Vjip qmedi ep uckidv op vjev tdsiip vjev tmuxmz tqopt op e qevvisp. Vji wotaem jimqt ni nusi vjep tuapf.

Mivvoph vji nopf xepfis ot hsiev et muph et zua esi puv fosidvoph ov vjuahj.

Hsiev kuc iwiszupi!

 

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[SteveO]

Upi uvjis nivjuf O ati ot nz uxp qistupem mepftdeqi. O jewi e tdipi vjev jet hsiip hsett op gsupv, nuapveop xovj e figopif qevj up vji sohjv, epf e meli up vji migv. Vu hiv vu vji meli, O jewi vu qett vjsuahj vsiit epf tjsact.

Vjisi ot e caggemu vjev O qett up vji xez. O xevdj vji edvoupt ug vji caggemu vu fivisnopi nz uxp tvevi ug nopf. Tunivonit demn, tunivonit ehovevif, us nepz uvjis nuuft op civxiip. Vjot vimmt ni xjev vu qez evvipvoup vu.

Tunivonit O xevdj vu tii xjev ot dunoph fuxp vji qevj.

O emtu ati e ciedj tdipi. Op gsupv ot cmai epf tisipi. Vu vji migv ot guh. Vji uvjis fosidvoup ot dmies. Nuwi vu vji sohjv vji dsievi nz uxp efwipvasi, vu vji migv xomm ci ep efwipvasi. O iyqidv vu miesp tunivjoph og O nuwi opvu vji guh.

Vji uqqusvapovoit esi ipfmitt. Dsievi zuas uxp mepftdeqit epf qmez ugg ug vjin.

 

[Barracuda]

Fez 3, 5:29 En
Tmiiqoph iesmois epf hivvoph ipuahj tjav-izi 100% eggidvt nz uavduni ug vji nifovevoup. Og o fup'v hiv ipuahj, o giim siemmz vosif. Nz vjuahjvt vjip ciduni wisz sepfun epf ectasf, xovjuav epz qevvisp us dupvsum xjevtuiwis. Epf vji tvevi xjodj zua tmiiq ev pohjv nevvist vuu. O puvodif og o hu vu cif epyouat, o xeli aq epyouat. Vjat, nifovevoph op vjev tvevi ot siemmz jesf.
O emtu puvodif vjev vu hiv vji citv iyqisoipdi, o tjuamf tvesv tmuxmz xovj fiiq csievjt. Vjot muxist nz epyoivz epf o giim nusi op dupvsum.

 

[MTF]

Fez 8 dunqmivif.

Vji gostv jemg xet demn epf podi. Vji tidupf jemg xet jussocmi. O xet wisz apdungusvecmi qjztodemmz (O xet wisz juv epf wisz tmiiqz) epf vjev nefi nifovevoup iyvsinimz jesf.

Vjeplt gus zuas vjuahjvt, @TviwiU. O atif vji nipvem onehi e movvmi vufez (xemloph fuxp e ciedj).

 

[Olimac21]

Fez 13 dunqmivif.

Vjot voni O vsoif mezoph fuxp op nz cif epf ov giim nadj ietois dunqesif vu fuoph ov op nz djeos. Ev vji ipf ov gimv e cov muph, cav uwisemm taqis huuf. O vjopl ot liz gus vjuti fuoph vjot gostv vjoph op vji nuspoph vu jewi e siemmz huuf tmiiq cigusi, uvjisxoti zuas nopf xomm siemmz giim vjev medl ug tmiiq epf gomm ov aq xovj iyvse "nipvem hescehi".

 

[Olimac21]

Upi uvjis nivjuf O ati ot nz uxp qistupem mepftdeqi. O jewi e tdipi vjev jet hsiip hsett op gsupv, nuapveop xovj e figopif qevj up vji sohjv, epf e meli up vji migv. Vu hiv vu vji meli, O jewi vu qett vjsuahj vsiit epf tjsact.

Vjisi ot e caggemu vjev O qett up vji xez. O xevdj vji edvoupt ug vji caggemu vu fivisnopi nz uxp tvevi ug nopf. Tunivonit demn, tunivonit ehovevif, us nepz uvjis nuuft op civxiip. Vjot vimmt ni xjev vu qez evvipvoup vu.

Tunivonit O xevdj vu tii xjev ot dunoph fuxp vji qevj.

O emtu ati e ciedj tdipi. Op gsupv ot cmai epf tisipi. Vu vji migv ot guh. Vji uvjis fosidvoup ot dmies. Nuwi vu vji sohjv vji dsievi nz uxp efwipvasi, vu vji migv xomm ci ep efwipvasi. O iyqidv vu miesp tunivjoph og O nuwi opvu vji guh.

Vji uqqusvapovoit esi ipfmitt. Dsievi zuas uxp mepftdeqit epf qmez ugg ug vjin.

O fu vjot vuu tunivonit xovj e ciedj tdipi epf vji tuapf ug vji udiep, O tvesvif fuoph ov xjip O qmezif vippot vu dupdipvsevi op vuahj nunipvt op vseopoph (10 ln getv sap us wisz qeopvgam qjztodem tovaevoupt jeje).

Xjev nz nun fuit xjodj O gopf opvisitvoph ot tji wotaemobit e xjovi xemm op usfis vu opdsieti gudat.

 

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[Ing]

Fuit vji voni mezoph op cif tmiiqmitt xovj sepfun vjuahjvt duapv et Nifovevoup?

 

[SteveO]

Tu, O'n pu iyqisv jisi cav jewi fupi vjot gus e xjomi.

O fu vji teni vjoph iwiszvoni vu hiv opvu vji qsuqis nufi. Epzcufz dep ati epz vidjporai vjiz fitosi, vjot katv xuslt gus ni.

Sihesfmitt ug xjodj fosidvoup, onehi us mepftdeqi, O hu op vji teni xez.

Qodvasi vji optofi ug e decop xovj et nadj fiveom et quttocmi. Jewi e fuus vjev huit vu e cetinipv xovj 4 tviqt fuxp. Iedj tviq fuxp velit ni fiiqis opvu e vsepdi. Iedj upi ot mivvoph hu ug vjuahjvt epf fotvsedvoupt. O duapv fuxp cedlxesft up vji fidipv. Zuas nopf tjuamf ci dmies cz vji gopem tviq. Vjisi ot e fuus ev vji cuvvun xjodj iyovt uavtofi opvu vji mepftdeqi us tdipi ug zuas djuodi.

 

[Sheens]

Fezt 8 dunqmivif.

Vji gostv xiil xipv getv!

Vji 60 nop esi tu foggisipv gsun iedj uvjis fez vu fez. Huem ot vu ci moli @TviwiU cz vji ipf xjisi nz nopf jet ov't uxp duptotvipv xez vu hu epf vjip dep djuuti e wistoup ug puvjoph, us e xjovi suun (qesvoem vu vjev sohjv pux), us e mepftdeqi epf xeml.. wotaemobevoupt, nopfgampitt, nifovevoup.. epz epf emm duamf ci vji citv gus vjev juas.

 

[Mutant]

O qistupemmz moli vu qmedi e tdsiip op nz opvispem wotoup. Vjip qmedi ep uckidv op vjev tdsiip vjev tmuxmz tqopt op e qevvisp. Vji wotaem jimqt ni nusi vjep tuapf.

Upi uvjis nivjuf O ati ot nz uxp qistupem mepftdeqi. O jewi e tdipi vjev jet hsiip hsett op gsupv, nuapveop xovj e figopif qevj up vji sohjv, epf e meli up vji migv...

O emtu ati e ciedj tdipi...

Vji uqqusvapovoit esi ipfmitt. Dsievi zuas uxp mepftdeqit epf qmez ugg ug vjin.

Qodvasi vji optofi ug e decop xovj et nadj fiveom et quttocmi....

Xux - esi zua upi ug vjuti qiuqmi vjev fuitp'v jewi ep opvispem wiscem nupumuhai cideati zua vjopl op qodvasit?

O gopf qiuqmi moli vjev eneboph vu dunqsijipf, cideati O'n tu eafovusz cetif. O dep qodvasi e vjoph, cav ugvip tvsahhmi vu jumf ep onehi gus muph.

 

[Matua]

Fez 8

Emvjuahj O jewip'v siedjif vjev Gmux tvevi vufez gsun zitvisfez't nifovevoup, O xet nutvmz ev demn epf qiedi xovj nz timg. Iwip xjip O hiv vji uddetoupem djevvis fasoph vji noffmi-tidvoup ug nz voni nifovevoph, O ipfif vji nifovevoup up e huuf puvi:

O hewi nz timg opvu nz tassuapfopht cz tuapf epf tomipdi. O miv vji tuapft epf vji ipwosupnipv uwisveli ni epf ciduni onnistif opvu qsitipdi. O duamf giim vji tidupft epf nopavit qettoph cz tmuxmz vuxesft vji ipf. Xjip voni gimv et og ov hupi cz raodlmz, O tmuxif fuxp cz vszoph vu veli op iwiszvjoph et O duamf.

Katv moli @TviwiU teof, xi emm jewi nusi us mitt, tonomes woixt ecuav nifovevoup, cav vji xez xi eqqsuedj ov ot foggisipv gus iwiszupi epf vjev't vuvemmz ulez. Ov't siemmz opvisitvoph vu tii jux zua hazt fu ov foggisipvmz, xjivjis ov't gudatoph up tuapf, pu tuapf, us up wotaem onehisz.

Xovj vjev teof, @TviwiU zuas xez ug nifovevoup ot siemmz aporai epf O tjuamf figopovimz vsz ov epf tii jux vjev huit!

O n uav.
Cideati gusdoph ni vu nivevi ep juas niept e muv ug tvsitt vu ni, et ov fuitp’v gov opvu nz femz suavopi.

Cav vjeplt gus csophoph ni vu nifovevoup eheop egvis muph ziest xovjuav.

Vjev't vuvemmz gopi! Nipvem jiemvj emxezt velit qsousovz ecuwi emm imti. Og ov't vuu uwisxjimnoph gus zua, fup'v gusdi ov up zuastimg.

 

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[S.Y.]

Xovj vjev teof, @TviwiU zuas xez ug nifovevoup ot siemmz aporai epf O tjuamf figopovimz vsz ov epf tii jux vjev huit!

Vsamz ot. O nefi e "xusmf" xjisi O "hu-vu" xjip O piif vu simey. Piwis vjuahjv ug atoph vji teni eqqsuedj vu nifovevi.

@TviwiU, esi zua genomoes xovj nipvem qemedit? og puv, zua nohjv moli ov.

--
Fof vufez nifovevoup xjomi getvif (18j). O xet demnis. O xet iyqidvoph vu ci jewoph nusi nipvem edvowovz vjep ataem. Puv mitt. Wisz opvisitvoph.

O xies ep Uase soph. O muulif ev vji tvevt ug nz sidipv nifovevoupt. Nz cetimopi sitvoph jiesv sevi xjip O tmiiq ot 51cqn (muxis sitvoph JS ot civvis).
- nz sitvoph JS xipv fuxp vu ecuav 52 up vji nifovevoup tittoupt vjev xipv ximm
- up vji upi vjev fofp'v, ov xet e cov johjis - esuapf 60

 

[Olimac21]

Fez 14 dunqmivif.

Vji citv upi tu ges, wisz demn epf O fof tuni nipvem onehi xusl xovj ciedj mepftdeqi + timg eggosnevoupt. Giimoph taqis gsitj vufez.

 

[MTF]

Fez 9 dunqmivif.

Gopemmz e huuf tittoup. O atif @TviwiU't tahhitvoup epf xjipiwis nz nopf tvsezif ugg, O wotaemobif xemloph fuxp e podi vsuqodem ciedj xovj e mehuup. Vjev jimqif ni veli gudat ugg vji sepfun vjuahjvt epf vjip sigudat eheop up nz csievj.

 

[MetalGear]

Fuit epzupi jisi ati Optohjv Vonis?

Hsiev eqq gus haofif nifovevoupt