The Entrepreneur Forum | Financial Freedom | Starting a Business | Motivation | Money | Success

Welcome to the only entrepreneur forum dedicated to building life-changing wealth.

Build a Fastlane business. Earn real financial freedom. Join free.

Join over 80,000 entrepreneurs who have rejected the paradigm of mediocrity and said "NO!" to underpaid jobs, ascetic frugality, and suffocating savings rituals— learn how to build a Fastlane business that pays both freedom and lifestyle affluence.

Free registration at the forum removes this block.

How To Trade Stock Options (Ultimate Beginners Guide)

Anything related to investing, including crypto

jpmartin

Jedi Master
Read Unscripted!
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
82%
Sep 7, 2013
297
245

MJ DeMarco

I followed the science; all I found was money.
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
446%
Jul 23, 2007
38,179
170,325
Utah
Another great resource for the absolute beginner is Step Up to Options...

https://www.dough.com/stock-options-explained

I will expand on this at a later date/post (And @IceCreamKid as well) but options are truly the one financial investment that fits a Fastlane modality. At some point on your financial journey, you should learn the right way to trade them. And yes, there is a right way, and a wrong way.
 

jpmartin

Jedi Master
Read Unscripted!
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
82%
Sep 7, 2013
297
245
there is a right way, and a wrong way.

Without an ounce of doubt!!! btw, that article also leads you to dough.com - excellent resource, that has another advantage of getting you approved for options trading with ThinkOrSwim / TD Ameritrade.
 

IceCreamKid

With Great Power Comes Great Electricity Bill
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Fastlane!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
2,185%
Jun 8, 2010
942
20,578
California
Another great resource for the absolute beginner is Step Up to Options...

https://www.dough.com/stock-options-explained

I will expand on this at a later date/post (And @IceCreamKid as well) but options are truly the one financial investment that fits a Fastlane modality. At some point on your financial journey, you should learn the right way to trade them. And yes, there is a right way, and a wrong way.

Very excited to be sharing some knowledge and experiences on this topic in the future. I've been dying to share some of this stuff with people who are actually interested.
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

MJ DeMarco

I followed the science; all I found was money.
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
446%
Jul 23, 2007
38,179
170,325
Utah
MJ, would be really great to read your post on this

I promise I will be making a huge post on it in the near future. Just gathering some more trench experience and waiting for the year to end.

Also, the post will NOT be outside for public consumption-- it will be made on the INSIDE. I got a good suspicion that @IceCreamKid will be a legendary contributor to it as well. Stay tuned!
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Daniel A

DIESEL
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
116%
Jun 20, 2013
1,063
1,234
California, USA
I'm seriously looking forward to this! The 3-day Rich Dad event I went to long ago was about stock options and regrettably my interest in that died off, but now it's been reignited! I was just signing up for dough.com, but it said the email was taken. I knew it seemed familiar because I'd already made an account. This is another reason to get INSIDERS once again...

Ditto on my bolded text above. ^
 

AllenCrawley

Legendary Contributor
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
420%
Oct 13, 2011
4,112
17,270
52
Scottsdale, AZ
It's been 15 years since I actively traded stock options. I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to this as I'm sure it will be a great refresher and I bet I'll learn a ton as well.
 

exclusives88

Silver Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
166%
May 28, 2014
520
861
37
I also look forward to this.

I traded options in 2013 and 2014. I was super risky, trading calls/puts or straddles on earning days where premiums were crazy high due to its volatility. Let's say that I lost a lot of money! I'd like to learn as how I was investing was the WRONG way!
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Chitown

Gold Contributor
Read Fastlane!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
165%
Apr 14, 2009
708
1,168
Culver City
https://www.dough.com/stock-options-explained

I will expand on this at a later date/post (And @IceCreamKid as well) but options are truly the one financial investment that fits a Fastlane modality. At some point on your financial journey, you should learn the right way to trade them. And yes, there is a right way, and a wrong way.
@MJ DeMarco,

Bookmarked! Those videos look tight. Looking forward to what you and @IceCreamKid are cooking up. Thanks, fellas!
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.
Last edited by a moderator:

Chitown

Gold Contributor
Read Fastlane!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
165%
Apr 14, 2009
708
1,168
Culver City
Chicago is where it all began...!
For about 7 months in 2005 I was a runner and out trade clerk for R.J. O'Brien, one of the founding market makers of the Merc in 1914, I believe. It was called the Butter and Egg Exchange, then. I left one week before that nasty Refco scandal in late '05.

Glad I got the hell out when I did. Doing out trades would have been a frickin' nightmare!
 

Kevind88

Contributor
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
185%
Jun 8, 2015
41
76
I've been studying options trading. I've read a few books and Sheldon Natenberg's book is my favourite. I watched videos from tastytrade site, however, I am a little skeptical about their trading strategies and risk management techniques. I am looking for other learning sources, your recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
 

jpmartin

Jedi Master
Read Unscripted!
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
82%
Sep 7, 2013
297
245

IceCreamKid

With Great Power Comes Great Electricity Bill
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Fastlane!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
2,185%
Jun 8, 2010
942
20,578
California
I am a little skeptical about their trading strategies and risk management techniques. I am looking for other learning sources, your recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
I can tell you from experience that reading another book will not give you the feeling of confidence which you seek. It will just lead you down the rabbit hole of analysis paralysis.

For me, the biggest confidence booster has been:
1. trading in real-time
2. using the ThinkBack feature in ThinkorSwim to allow me to manually backtest my strategies.

I invite you to test the strategies that you learned from TastyTrade using the ThinkBack feature. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how effective their strategies are. A consistent 20-40% profit per year is very realistic utilizing their strategies.

Also make sure to test your strategy in a variety of market types. It's important to learn when to use the proper cashflow strategy.
  • Clear trending markets=directional trading(delta trading)
  • Choppy markets=time decay trading(theta trading)
  • Volatile markets=volatility trading(vega trading)
Historically, the market goes sideways the majority of the time so ideally you will be selling theta and profiting from time decay. Stay away from covered calls. Not enough control in those and when things get ugly, they get UGLY.

Sign up for a free account at https://www.dough.com/#traders and observe their trades in real-time. You'll learn a lot about how to adjust trades to profitability in the event that the market moves against you.
 

Kevind88

Contributor
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
185%
Jun 8, 2015
41
76
I can tell you from experience that reading another book will not give you the feeling of confidence which you seek. It will just lead you down the rabbit hole of analysis paralysis.

For me, the biggest confidence booster has been:
1. trading in real-time
2. using the ThinkBack feature in ThinkorSwim to allow me to manually backtest my strategies.

I invite you to test the strategies that you learned from TastyTrade using the ThinkBack feature. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how effective their strategies are. A consistent 20-40% profit per year is very realistic utilizing their strategies.

Also make sure to test your strategy in a variety of market types. It's important to learn when to use the proper cashflow strategy.
  • Clear trending markets=directional trading(delta trading)
  • Choppy markets=time decay trading(theta trading)
  • Volatile markets=volatility trading(vega trading)
Historically, the market goes sideways the majority of the time so ideally you will be selling theta and profiting from time decay. Stay away from covered calls. Not enough control in those and when things get ugly, they get UGLY.

Sign up for a free account at https://www.dough.com/#traders and observe their trades in real-time. You'll learn a lot about how to adjust trades to profitability in the event that the market moves against you.

Thanks for the advice. I was paper trading using ThinkorSwim but didn't know about the Thinkback feature. Will definitely test it out.
 

Kevind88

Contributor
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
185%
Jun 8, 2015
41
76
I promise I will be making a huge post on it in the near future. Just gathering some more trench experience and waiting for the year to end.

Also, the post will NOT be outside for public consumption-- it will be made on the INSIDE. I got a good suspicion that @IceCreamKid will be a legendary contributor to it as well. Stay tuned!
Any updates on your options post MJ?:)
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Captain Jack

Silver Contributor
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
280%
Nov 16, 2015
209
585
USA
Any updates on your options post MJ?:)

There are MANY MANY updates on this. Purchase an INSIDERS subscription for further details.

Seriously. There are multiple very active threads that will tell you everything you need to know to successfully trade options.
 

MJ DeMarco

I followed the science; all I found was money.
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
446%
Jul 23, 2007
38,179
170,325
Utah
Any updates on your options post MJ?

Yes, I made an extensive thread on the INSIDE, which I plan to update for awhile. That thread also morphed 3 other threads on the inside. All contain contributions from myself and @IceCreamKid who alluded in several threads that he also trades options.
 

Kevind88

Contributor
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
185%
Jun 8, 2015
41
76
There are MANY MANY updates on this. Purchase an INSIDERS subscription for further details.

Seriously. There are multiple very active threads that will tell you everything you need to know to successfully trade options.
Will do, thanks MJ!
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

MJ DeMarco

I followed the science; all I found was money.
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
446%
Jul 23, 2007
38,179
170,325
Utah

MJ DeMarco

I followed the science; all I found was money.
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
446%
Jul 23, 2007
38,179
170,325
Utah
people didnt seem to positive ab out trading stocks.

Stocks are like playing war.

Options are like playing poker.

At the very instant you buy a stock, your chances of being profitable is a coin flip -- 50/50. This statistical probability holds NO MATTER what the technical charts say, or the fundamentals.

If you buy 10 stocks, your odds of being profitable on every one of them is .5 to the 10th power or .097% -- and this is how the world invests for their retirement.

When using the market, the Fastlane preference is options due to time decay, which is essentially is finance world's version of the commandment of time.
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

mosdef

Bronze Contributor
Read Fastlane!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
44%
Apr 1, 2014
407
181
Stocks are like playing war.

Options are like playing poker.

At the very instant you buy a stock, your chances of being profitable is a coin flip -- 50/50. This statistical probability holds NO MATTER what the technical charts say, or the fundamentals.

If you buy 10 stocks, your odds of being profitable on every one of them is .5 to the 10th power or .097% -- and this is how the world invests for their retirement.

When using the market, the Fastlane preference is options due to time decay, which is essentially is finance world's version of the commandment of time.

oh ok thanks! This means stocks is out of the question. The question is if its worth to spend time learning options
 

Post New Topic

Please SEARCH before posting.
Please select the BEST category.

Post new topic

Guest post submissions offered HERE.

Fastlane Insiders

View the forum AD FREE.
Private, unindexed content
Detailed process/execution threads
Ideas needing execution, more!

Join Fastlane Insiders.

Top