If you love cold calling…no reason you can’t be a millionaire in a few years…

[Mathuin]

For real though, Cold Calling is some of the most gangster shit in business

 

[Charnell]

Gotta love the circle-jerk that is business Twitter. What an absolute useless platitude. Just replace cold-calling with damn near anything else and the people that do that thing will flock.

• If you love coding you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love writing erotica you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love selling cocaine you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love doing cocaine you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love hot butt sex you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.

BRB creating a Twitter account to sell Gumroad courses.

 

[MTF]

He might as well have said "if you're a unicorn, you have a huge gift." LOL is there a single person in the entire world who genuinely loves cold calling? This has to be the #1 most hated job in the world.

 

[BizyDad]

This thread got me fired up...

I haven't done a cold call in forever. But I had a weird situation come up.

Google started ranking one of my clients on the first page for a service that only a computer would think is related to what my client does for a living.

I don't want to say specifically what the term is, so let's pretend my business coach client suddenly started ranking for the term football coach.

Anyways, I'm driving to his office yesterday and in the office suite next to his is a company that does "football coaching". I never cared to notice before, but I'm not going to let an opportunity like this pass me by...

So after my client meeting, I walk next door, knock on the door, and have a quick chat with the office manager there about my service, about how his neighbor is ranking for something that I think he should, and would he be interested in SEO?

Turns out they have a corporate office in California, he'll pass my info along, but he flat out told me not to expect anything.

Okay. Fair enough. But I'm not going to let this opportunity slide...

So I go back to my office at 3:00 p.m. on a Friday afternoon, do the Google search again, and start calling people that are on the second page to show them my "business coach" client is outranking them for "football coaching services".

Two phone calls later I have an appointment set with a "football coach" for next Friday.

I don't love cold calling, but it is good to know I still got the touch when necessary.

If you know me know now, yeah sure, I'm another outgoing dude. Someone on the forum called me the most extraverted extravert they ever met. But I grew up a bookish nerd who struggled to make friends and definitely didn't want to develop "sales skills". If I can do it, I think anyone can.

 

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[Simon Angel]

He might as well have said "if you're a unicorn, you have a huge gift." LOL is there a single person in the entire world who genuinely loves cold calling? This has to be the #1 most hated job in the world.

With a killer product or service, I could see myself enjoying this. I already did a ton of cold calling 2 years ago when I was first starting out and I had zero confidence and it worked well.

I had no idea how to advertise at the time and was fixated on what I was offering rather than what the person's needs on the other end were. So having a clear idea of your value proposition and what makes your audience tick + a fun and friendly approach, and it could work wonders for everyone involved.

 

[JoeyF]

It's funny, I forgot how allergic people are to cold calling, it's been so long since I've taken part in a discussion on a forum about it.

I get it, fear of rejection, not wanting to be a bother, performance anxiety, even a lil' touch of existential dread all wrapped up into a nice little bundle.

It's not hard to understand why it seems like an impossible task for 90% of the population and then deeply unpleasant for most of the remaining 10%.

Not to mention, the emotionally scarred who worked in a call centre at some point lol.

But if you can chew through that and see it for what it is, ie, the chance to discuss your product or service with 200 people today, make actual sales today, prove or grow your business today, it can be extremely rewarding and fun.

Sure you can send out emails or direct mail and wait to see who responds, deal with the response from there, that works too.

But if you're a great communicator, there's something magical about grabbing the bull by the horns and creating cash flow, success, results on demand in real time, out of thin air.

 

[Mathuin]

Gotta love the circle-jerk that is business Twitter. What an absolute useless platitude. Just replace cold-calling with damn near anything else and the people that do that thing will flock

Hey man, did you know "Discipline is a superpower"?

KNAWLEDGE

 

[Andy Black]

This thread got me fired up...

I haven't done a cold call in forever. But I had a weird situation come up.

Google started ranking one of my clients on the first page for a service that only a computer would think is related to what my client does for a living.

I don't want to say specifically what the term is, so let's pretend my business coach client suddenly started ranking for the term football coach.

Anyways, I'm driving to his office yesterday and in the office suite next to his is a company that does "football coaching". I never cared to notice before, but I'm not going to let an opportunity like this pass me by...

So after my client meeting, I walk next door, knock on the door, and have a quick chat with the office manager there about my service, about how his neighbor is ranking for something that I think he should, and would he be interested in SEO?

Turns out they have a corporate office in California, he'll pass my info along, but he flat out told me not to expect anything.

Okay. Fair enough. But I'm not going to let this opportunity slide...

So I go back to my office at 3:00 p.m. on a Friday afternoon, do the Google search again, and start calling people that are on the second page to show them my "business coach" client is outranking them for "football coaching services".

Two phone calls later I have an appointment set with a "football coach" for next Friday.

I don't love cold calling, but it is good to know I still got the touch when necessary.

If you know me know now, yeah sure, I'm another outgoing dude. Someone on the forum called me the most extraverted extravert they ever met. But I grew up a bookish nerd who struggled to make friends and definitely didn't want to develop "sales skills". If I can do it, I think anyone can.

Reminds me of a couple of favourite lines:

“Tell me what you’ve done and I’ll tell you who you are.”

“Show, don’t tell.”

You didn’t ring telling them what you’d do. You rang showing what you’d done.

I had some fun cold-calls when I generated a lead and was trying to find a business to service it.

 

[JoeyF]

This grabbed my attention last night as it's something that's been on my mind lately.

Agree/Disagree?




I personally think it's dead on the money.

It's amazing how well cold calling still works.

With the right product/audience fit, you can literally sit and make easy sales just by introducing yourself and what you do with a quick 30 second elevator pitch.

My question is, what are some really good products or services to sell to make maximum use out of your willingness to pick up a phone and dial some numbers?

Thoughts?

PS The Twitter account that posted this is good content, he buys and flips strip malls!

 

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[Simon Angel]

If you love hot butt sex you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.

Oh, if only..

 

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[SDFreedomFighter]

I think the point of the saying is if you can cold call you probably don't have anxiety or fear of rejection, and if you didn't have those things and were able to take massive action ie cold calling, you can do anything, which is 100% true.

 

[JoeyF]

Interesting post from Reddit from many moons ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/43r36x View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/43r36x/cold_calls_i_went_from_nothing_to_120kyear_solo/

 

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[JoeyF]

He might as well have said "if you're a unicorn, you have a huge gift." LOL is there a single person in the entire world who genuinely loves cold calling? This has to be the #1 most hated job in the world.

LoL

Yeah, I think that's his point! Maybe enjoy is a strong word but for people who are perfectly comfortable sitting banging out cold calls and good at doing that, it can be extremely lucrative with the right product.

I believe he's referring to what he's seeing in the RE world, where folk are hammering the phones finding juicy deals and rinse repeat... ;-)

 

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[JoeyF]

Boys I’m gonna have to bow out of this one. This convo is going absolutely nowhere and I’ve just arrived for a weeks vacay in Napoli, pizza to eat, wine to drink sights to see and all that.

Peace!

 

[JoeyF]

I love this, I started out by doing web design + cold calling 2 years ago. I actually documented almost every call that went somewhere in my thread: EXECUTION - My Odyssey - Finding Meaning And Achieving Financial Freedom

I was also scared shitless before every phone call but usually, the anticipation was 10x worse than the actual call. Once I realized I was adding value, however, I wasn't as anxious anymore.

Well this is it, isn't it?! Once you start doing it you realise that people aren't mad that you called and the very small number who are, you can still be very polite, friendly and feel more sorry for them than yourself because they're having a tough day/life to be going off at a stranger who just called to do an intro.

One of the best things I learned from a mentor of sorts when I first started was that you can provide value to people even if they have no use for what you are offering simply by being so positive and friendly that they gain some energy just from speaking with you.

I realised that I could leave the people I was calling feeling better than they did before I called more often than not and that also gave me more energy for the next call.

Just being super friendly/positive/upbeat gets you a LONG way when it comes to pitching via cold calls

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

He might as well have said "if you're a unicorn, you have a huge gift." LOL is there a single person in the entire world who genuinely loves cold calling? This has to be the #1 most hated job in the world.

I'm genuinely shocked. I mean, most of my introverted friends hate making calls but the MOST hated job? Doubtful.

I know I act crazy on here sometimes but I'm ENTJ and I give no f#cks at all. I'm compassionate and silly and randomly intelligent and ummm..

I love talking to people! I love connecting! I love helping ppl create or find something new. I don't mind cold calling at all. It's fun.

My problem is I don't like selling stuff I don't believe in.

 

[MTF]

Gotta love the circle-jerk that is business Twitter. What an absolute useless platitude. Just replace cold-calling with damn near anything else and the people that do that thing will flock.

• If you love coding you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love writing erotica you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love selling cocaine you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love doing cocaine you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.
• If you love hot butt sex you have a huge gift. There's no reason why you can't be a millionaire in a few years if you harness it correctly and choose the right product/audience.

BRB creating a Twitter account to sell Gumroad courses.

Business Twitter is ridiculous. I find it particularly hilarious when people give their golden step-by-step generic advice on what to do to get rich which they've never done themselves.

For example (I cut the username on purpose, don't want to hate on specific people but show others what to stay away from):



Easy peasy my man! Let's buy a micro-SaaS for $2.5k, work on its marketing funnel (whatever the F*ck it means), and boom, you've scaled to $20k in MRR and you can sell it for $500k.

This is 99.9% of business Twitter. Bullshit platitudes that a guy writing stuff for fortune cookies would be proud of.

 

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[JoeyF]

Loving this!

Any advice for a scared shitless dude tired from Telemarketing back in the days in a foreign country where he speaks the language at around 95% native level? (assuming you're back from Napoli)

lol, @A-sop , had to be said.

It's been 12+ years since I was in your boat but what I did was as follows...

I selected a product (web design) and started calling businesses in the Yellow Pages etc to arrange a face to face meeting where I'd show them how we could do a better job than what they had at the time.

Because of the unsexy product I was pitching it was quite low %, but simply calling and doing these intros and going to meet face to face was enough to get me my first 20 clients within a few months - from scratch with no track record.

I wasn't making a lot of money but I was making money.

Then I progressed on to selling the real juice which is advertising/leads.

And I have 2 businesses built off the back of that sweat equity today which provide a great income.

The intro that I used to get into the call back at the start was as follows:

I said hello, introduced myself by name (no business mentioned) then explained what I do (web design) and asked if they had given any thought to either having a website or improving an existing one recently?

All very quick, they have no time to get off before I've dropped the info about what I do.

80% of the time would be a no, almost always polite. 20% you got some interest and into the next stage of the sale.

I find, if they're looking for what you're offering, they almost can't help admit it lol... Once they do, they are on the hook.

That still works as recently as the last year or so and I used it in 2019-2020 to reel in some juicy clients that are still with me today for my financial leads.

Those clients started multiplying too via referral and it's gotten to a point where I have more demand than I can supply with those leads - nice problem to have.

So cold calling has been a tool I've used on and off the past 12 years, one of the most valuable and because most people are shit scared to do it, it does give you a certain competitive advantage.

Money <3 speed as they say..

 

[peddletothemetal]

My experience: (a) cold calling is roughly on par with going to the dentist, (b) it doesn't feel too bad after a few of your favorite beers.

Disclaimer: I don't recommend alcoholism as a path to easy cold calling.

 

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[JoeyF]

For real though, Cold Calling is some of the most gangster shit in business

Fact

 

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[JoeyF]

These are typical sensational remark that distracts from the complexity of sales and business.

First in most countries there is Do not call registry.

This isn’t really an issue as you just make sure to buy clean data from a reliable company.

"With the right product-audience fit", yes..that' like saying if you have a business that sells...you will be rich.

Eh? Plenty of businesses go down despite having a good product market fit because they couldn’t figure out sales.

The purpose of cold calling or marketing in general at the beginning phase is to test if you have product market fit at all if you are starting a new business.

Really? That’s it’s “purpose”? Says….who? Tell that to the blue chip companies making millions daily with huge call centers pumping long established products.

If cold calling is gold, most business owners could just get rich hiring callers from Philippine to do for them.

Wut? Now I’m starting to think you’re trolling

At end of day it's the roi, you invest your time and money into cold calling and look at the quality of leads and the margin of your sales.

Yes, This post is about the roi potential of cold calling being huge, still, in 2022…

My experience with cold calling has not been good. Primarily because cold leads do not trust you could troll you can cancel multiple appointments and waste your time further. There is no consequences for lack of respect of time of someone whom you only know via voice 2 days ago.

Ok so now we’re getting to the heart of the matter. You tried it, it didn’t work and you decided it’s not good?

I totally agree, building relationships from ground zero is not easy but solid processes help manage and mitigate the early risk.

These time could be better spent building value for existing clients base or warm leads that could lead to referrals.

If you’ve had bad experience in the past I understand why you feel this way.

 

[Guyfieri5]

He might as well have said "if you're a unicorn, you have a huge gift." LOL is there a single person in the entire world who genuinely loves cold calling? This has to be the #1 most hated job in the world.

As someone who has cold-called for a living, I second this.

 

[focusedlife]

You didn’t ring telling them what you’d do. You rang showing what you’d done.

This is the key to selling whatever they want without resistance... even if they're a bit skeptical.

 

[Graham Chong]

I'm genuinely shocked. I mean, most of my introverted friends hate making calls but the MOST hated job? Doubtful.

I know I act crazy on here sometimes but I'm ENTJ and I give no f#cks at all. I'm compassionate and silly and randomly intelligent and ummm..

I love talking to people! I love connecting! I love helping ppl create or find something new. I don't mind cold calling at all. It's fun.

My problem is I don't like selling stuff I don't believe in.

I agree with your last sentence. I can be a very passionate salesman (even if it's not for monetary purposes) but I can't do it for things I don't believe in.

 

[JoeyF]

I disagree. No big hitter spends their time cold-calling, cold-calling is for losers. Big hitters aren’t even selling stuff… their whole effort is focused on providing more value and marketing, they let others do the selling for them. In other words, they’re working ON their business rather than IN their business.

Cold calling is just a very inefficient way of marketing yourself… unless, of course, the sale you’re trying to make is $100K+ - then it may very well be worth your time cold calling on the right people and building a relationship with them.

You’re far better off focusing on providing superior value and solving unmet needs that people care about. Then sales and marketing is easy.

Disagreeing is fair enough but to say "cold calling is for losers" just reveals how small minded you are.

Did you know Ari Emanuel would cold call Dana White and Lorenzo Fertita daily, for years before the eventual billion dollar deal they did together?

Had no product to sell him at the time, didn't know them from Adam, just wanted to build the relationship.

But right, no big hitter is spending time doing that shit right? LOL

Meanwhile this dude's got a signature that makes me wonder if I have time travelled back to 2005 and landed on the Warrior Forum

Hilarious.

Only losers pick up the phone and introduce themselves to business owners they want to begin a relationship with.

Real business people spam the shit out of their inbox instead.

Incredible.

 

[JoeyF]

The problem with cold calls is not that the “no” that kill you, it is the “yes” that kill you.

Sorry, but you're dead wrong here Kevin88660.

This is certainly not a "cold calling" problem.

It's simply an inability to do quality research ahead of time and then qualify out non suitable prospects quickly.

Everything you describe comes down to lack of skill on the salespersons behalf.

 

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[JoeyF]

Interesting post from Reddit from many moons ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/43r36x View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/43r36x/cold_calls_i_went_from_nothing_to_120kyear_solo/

To take months to bring in the first sale must have been so brutal.

That's an iron will to keep going, an absolute refusal to fail.

When I was getting started with my little web services biz in 2010, I took a chance and started cold calling.

I had my first client and payment in the form of a cheque on the first week.

Cold called the lady on the Monday, hired a car and went out to see her at her place of business on the Friday and had a cheque in my hand and then in the bank that afternoon.

I also had 2 other meetings booked that day, one of which I completely botched and the other was a no show.

It was a hell of a day, I was thrilled.

I sorely needed some kind of confirmation that my idea could work and if I hadn't gotten it that day, it would have been hard!

But this guy went at it for months before he got any confirmation that his idea was viable. That's impressive.

 

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[Bramxq]

I really like coldcalling business 2 business to setup appointments and then sell face 2 face. The only downside currently is im selling to much and my boss wont give me more $$$. So I'm looking for a way to abuse my skill and start something for myself....

 

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[Simon Angel]

I love this, I started out by doing web design + cold calling 2 years ago. I actually documented almost every call that went somewhere in my thread: EXECUTION - My Odyssey - Finding Meaning And Achieving Financial Freedom

I was also scared shitless before every phone call but usually, the anticipation was 10x worse than the actual call. Once I realized I was adding value, however, I wasn't as anxious anymore.

 

[Simon Angel]

Well this is it, isn't it?! Once you start doing it you realise that people aren't mad that you called and the very small number who are, you can still be very polite, friendly and feel more sorry for them than yourself because they're having a tough day/life to be going off at a stranger who just called to do an intro.

One of the best things I learned from a mentor of sorts when I first started was that you can provide value to people even if they have no use for what you are offering simply by being so positive and friendly that they gain some energy just from speaking with you.

I realised that I could leave the people I was calling feeling better than they did before I called more often than not and that also gave me more energy for the next call.

Just being super friendly/positive/upbeat gets you a LONG way when it comes to pitching via cold calls

Yep, absolutely, though if I were to do it now I'd just call a few highly-qualified leads per day rather than spray and pray.