Wow, I think I'm envious for the first time ever

[DeletedUser2]

meh,

you will get over it.

either that or use it as motivation of whats possible.

If he did so can you. you just have to give up your addiction to excuses.

really.


Z

 

[DeletedUser2]

Did you know that for only .07 cents per day, you could feed yourself for the rest of your life?

food is becoming scarce. so scarce in fact that most people will not be able to feed their families in the next 5 yrs.

but you don't need to sit back and watch your family starve. you don't need to be one of the ones out on the streets begging for food.

YOU will have your own secret ingredient that will practically guarantee your place at the front of the food line EVERY time, when civilization crashes.
Why?

because it will be YOUR food line, while others only look on with their starving children...

Yes for only .07 cents per day, I can sell you the best bag of horse manure for fertilizing your crops in your back yard......


anything can be made to sound spectacular, if done right....

learn copy.

good Luck
Z

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I am going to leave it up while I think of something new.

The problem isn't just your idea, it's also your implementation of the idea.

If you come up with another idea, say a really good one, you'll still be stuck with your same old bad implementation.

Work on writing copy and marketing. Buy a few books. Hit CopyBlogger. Buy Ca$hvertising. Look at other successful websites and model what they are doing.

Learn this essential craft before you do anything else.

Why?

Because marketing is nearly 1/2 the formula for execution. It literally can take a mediocre product and make it sound awesome.

So while you are in search of that awesome idea, it will always fail in execution since you don't know how to market and appeal to an audience.

And Tommy, please don't take this as verdict on your success or failure -- you're 20 and learning. It took me to 26, nearly 27, to figure a lot of this shit out.

 

[Gold777]

Additionally, from what I've read, I'm not seeing a genuine need here. It reminds me of another creation from a guy that use to visit here regularily: BatAds.com -- I remember then he explained it and I was like WTF is this? There's no need/value here (and I don't think he agreed with me) and now that site is dead.

I'm not trying to kill your website or anything but just want you to take a step back and ask yourself if what you're doing has significant value to a stranger? Would you use it? Or are you just doing something for the sake of doing something?

FINALLY someone else has the balls to say the TRUTH besides me.

I don't see a genuine need either, and I don't see any value at all, it seems like you're doing something JUST to do something. If I told you that the website is shit and you should scrap it, you would probably get mad and tell me that I'm trying to put you down or hate on you, that's not the case. The case is, is that you've received tons of feedback, many people from this forum have seen your site, and I've never seen anyone say they would use it or that it has any value.

I've been playing the nice guy role for the most part but sometimes it just doesn't get through, the things I've been repeating are:

1. The design/format sucks

2. The copywriting sucks

3. I don't see the point in this

4. Your site adds no value

5. Your site has been launched for months now, you have no active users and barely any good content, so obviously something is terribly wrong and advertising isn't going to do anything for you

It doesn't matter if you've heard no complaints about the design, it doesn't matter if you've heard no complaints about the copywriting, you're hearing complaints now, and I honestly don't see how you could compare your site to any other and not say "Ok, I have to seriously step my game up". You have to try to IMPRESS people, you can't just settle for "I hear no complaints", try to go above and beyond, not stop at average.

I'm not trying to kill your website or anything but just want you to take a step back and ask yourself if what you're doing has significant value to a stranger? Would you use it? Or are you just doing something for the sake of doing something?

Going to quote this again, he HAS taken a step back several times and asked himself is what he's doing has significant value to a stranger, and would he himself use it, because if he hasn't then he hasn't been listening to ANY of the feedback he has received. Taking that into account, there's something terribly wrong here, and I think he's just doing something just to do it. I don't think he has an ultimate vision or goal for the site, I mean, after all he doesn't even know how to market his own site yet he's potentially trying to do that for other people.

If you don't know anything about marketing, why in the world would someone use your site to market/post theirs?

I've always asked that question and never got a straight forward response, it makes no sense.

As I've said though, you CAN pivot, but if you do you need to basically start completely over. If you have a new idea, you're going to need a new design.

If you want honesty, I would honestly tell you to just put a torch to it because everyone in this thread has subliminally said that the site offers nothing and will be going no where in its current state. Everyone asking you questions about does the site offer any value, solve a need, or why would anyone use it? Already know the answer to their questions, and are just trying to get YOU to realize the real answer...

Don't believe me?:

I have no idea what your website does? What does it do for me? You need to tell me on the first page, in under a 3 count or I'm hitting X.

I agree with Sue, it's not very clear what your website does.

I'm not really clear on what your site does either

but I googled "free website directory" and found around 26 million results. I think I'm set on free places to post my website for a while, if I even wanted that in the first place.

I honestly don't understand your website. It doesn't make sense.

Why would anyone use it? You say "we all have trouble getting traffic to our web sites," but as someone with a website who's working on building traffic to it, I don't see why I'd use the site.

Your site looks like a one trick pony, and the trick has terrible execution.

you may have to try something else Tommy. I don't see income with this project.

If you want to attract people to register or to put their website links on there you need to tell them what is in there for them.

To the best of my understanding it's really nothing more than glorified backlinks.

Additionally, from what I've read, I'm not seeing a genuine need here. It reminds me of another creation from a guy that use to visit here regularily: BatAds.com -- I remember then he explained it and I was like WTF is this?

this attempt needs to be shot behind the shed, go back to the drawing board, try again.

And that's just from this thread alone...

Just try something new and scrap it man, MJ compared it to BatAds... Lmao I'm sorry but he compared it to a site that failed. I mean, I don't see how you haven't picked up the hints yet, but I'm telling you directly like LiquidGlass, put the torch to this and go back to the drawing board, stop wasting your time with it when you barely know what you're doing, it's in your best interests and I wish you the best of luck. Maybe your next project will blow us away .

 

[DeletedUser2]

Feel Hopeless. Good excuse.

might not want to keep that one for very long tho.

Z

 

[andviv]

I am late to this thread, and I won't comment on your business in particular, but here are some things I want to mention as I did not see them clearly said after reading the thread.

Basically he told me he was making tons of money now. Going to close deals and make like 20 grand and just working his a$$ off to cash in.

Sounds to me like he is working on it 'today'. Is his business scalable? The only ones that I've seen doing this type of thing in great scale were the ones that got bought by Best Buy to do their computer repair business.
And then you said:

Here I thought I was doing ok, but it seems like I have been doing nothing of the sort, haha.

You are comparing yourself to somebody else on a different path.

Stop this.

Look at your real competition, not to your friends to see who can pay off a BMW faster.

He said he finally quit his job about a month or two ago since this really picked up full force, and has been in the works since DEC 2011ish or so.

Somebody said it already, he just became a self-employee computer technician. Nothing wrong with it, but he will be working harder, not smarter in a couple of years.

To be honest, I just feel blown away even though I am working on projects of my own. I guess the thing is, his dream is coming true, mine still seems unreachable at the current time.

How do you know this is his dream? Maybe he made $20K but can't take a Sunday off. Is this what you want for yourself?

So, in closing, I think your route is better.

He can reap benefits in the short term by working superhard.
You are prepping and training to grow a business that, by virtue of being online, should be able to scale more effectively.

Recall MJ's graph about linear vs. exponential growth?





Focus on this, congratulate your friend for his progress, invite him to grab a beer or dinner, and talk a lot about how he is progressing and where he is going with it. Ask him lots of questions. Offer to help him in any way you can.

Who knows, you may identify a need that he is not fulfilling and you can work on.

Worst case scenario, you have a good dinner with a friend. What's there to lose?

 

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[BeingChewsie]

I see know how poorly written this was, and I'm not disagreeing with you, but..... Isn't this fairly straight forward?

No. I had absolutely no idea what the purpose to your site was after looking around for a few seconds. Looking at it further it looks like it is a place for websites to advertise for free (though I am not sure who they are advertising their websites too? Each other?). I wouldn't have said anything if I could have understood the purpose or value to me as a consumer or business owner right away. I thought you might want to know that it isn't really crystal clear what the value/benefit of this service is.

Sue

 

[AllenCrawley]

How To Set Yourself Apart From The P*ssy Generation | Elite Daily

 

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[1PercentStreet]

I want this to be more personal.

Does the world need this though?

 

[liquidglass]

Does the world need this though?

AMEN! That was going to my question for you Tommy. Does your website solve a need or make something EASIER on your potential consumer base? (My personal thought is no)

Now this is business related criticism so please don't take it personal. Your site looks like a one trick pony, and the trick has terrible execution. Instead why aren't you offering SEO and other services as a package. Then being listed on your website will be a 'perk' to being a member rather than the only thing that you can offer.

Just because you clearly see what your site does your consumers may not, and they are the ONLY thing that matters in this equation.

I don't think that going for it and failing will make me feel any better, I just thing it will make me feel like I went for something and failed, which would reenforce that fact that it is just that, a dream.

I'm going to be candid with you. Terrible attitude, you might as well give up today and go work the slowlane for the rest of your life.

Read Failing Forward by John Maxwell to gain some perspective on your situation.

However, I believe I will make it, and while I don't normally compare myself to others.. it's like trying to ignore the kid who launched a company next door from you and pulls in, in a brand new car that he paid for in cash, knowing he did so from a dream just like yours.

The funny thing about life, is that when you go online and look at a celebrity and watch them with no dreams of ever becoming what they are, you are fine with reading about them, or watching them in a movie. But when you want to become that actor or musician SO badly, and you work towards it, the feeling of hopelessness is ten fold what it would be if you'd never even thought it was possible to reach that goal. Which is strange, shouldn't it be backwards?

Don't ignore the successful just use them as examples of people that have reached the finish line on that particular race, it means you can do it too.

But only study people that you want to be like not a celebrity just because they are famous.

I really have no idea why that happens either... when you aim for nothing, you feel content. When you aim for something, it feels so far away that you feel hopeless.

This is again, terrible. I could explain to you how sometimes everyone gets down and out about themselves or their dream, because it's very true. But rather than validate you wallowing in your own self pity I'll put it to you bluntly: Stop whining and start acting.

When you aim for nothing you might as well go in circles for the rest of your life, which makes it pointless. When you aim for something you're further along than most people. At least you have a destination, most people never aim because "it's too hard." Remember if it wasn't hard everyone would do it and it wouldn't pay so well to be different.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

I want this to be more personal.

The market doesn't give a f*ck what you want.

Hello and welcome to "TizeMe.com"! This website is specifically dedicated to posting and discovering online creations. We welcome all different types of content from forums to video channels and know how difficult it can be to find a place to post your website. Here at TizeMe you can simply join and post your website for all to see!

You really need to stop and read a few books about marketing and copywriting.

"Hello and welcome to TizeMe.com" <-- Superfluous words mean nothing. Get rid of them.

"This website is specifically dedicated to posting and discovering online creations" <-- More superfluous extraneous fluff. Should be changed to: "Post and Discover New Online [content? vids? websites?]!"

This is just a short sample of what I read and how it needs to be tweaked.

Additionally, from what I've read, I'm not seeing a genuine need here. It reminds me of another creation from a guy that use to visit here regularily: BatAds.com -- I remember then he explained it and I was like WTF is this? There's no need/value here (and I don't think he agreed with me) and now that site is dead.

I'm not trying to kill your website or anything but just want you to take a step back and ask yourself if what you're doing has significant value to a stranger? Would you use it? Or are you just doing something for the sake of doing something?

Here's a link to my DejaVu.
https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/internet-mobile-apps-software/33986-re-launch-batads-com.html

 

[evoo21]

Hey bud,

Do you remember when you were little and doing the monkey bars without falling off was a big deal? Think about how long it took you to do it, and when you finally did it you were so happy.

Then, you did it so many times that you started doing it with your eyes closed, backwards, etc. After a while, the monkey bars were for kids...you were on to the jungle gym and doing flips off of the swings.

That is how life is. Right now, your dream may seam insurmountable and like you'll never make it without falling off course. Keep at it and you may not make it, but at least you will know you went for it.

As for your envy...I think that the envy is good in that that is what you want. I mean have you ever been envious of a homeless person? An incredibly physically unattractive person? The things we envy are the things we most want, so look at the positive - you know what you want which is more than most people!

What's your business anyway or what are you working on?

 

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[Tony Nguyen]

Well people change, it's natural progression, it's life, envy is a part of human nature, what I suggest is that you worry less about other people and focus more on yourself "Progress is the key to business" what's stopping your progress? envy. Is it worth it to spend all that useful time envying over something with no significant value or effect on your life? NOPE! so GO GET IT use that envy to fuel yourself towards the future.

P.S what kind "friend" who gets extremely angry over something so small like MLM, though It was your choice not to join, I don't see any point in being angry at my friend when it was his choice, even-so after seeing a apology I would still communicate or hang around them not completely cut them off.

 

[theag]

How To Set Yourself Apart From The P*ssy Generation | Elite Daily

One of my new favorite blogs since I got there throughs MJs fb link

 

[Tommy92l]

All you can worry about is yourself. Sounds like your friend may have just created a job for himself. For all you know he works 100 hours a week and is miserable. Human nature is to make everything sound great when talking to friends about things like this. You want people to think your life is the greatest.

See, I don't get why people can't be honest. I mean, people want to say "Ha, he is probably failing!", why would anyone want to hear that? Yeah know? I think all of us here WANT to hear those success stories because it just brightens up the light at the end of the tunnel and makes the goal even more realistic. As for 100 hours a week, yeah, I think he said something around 70-80.

There is no reason for me to be bitching, he worked harder than me for the past year, I F*cked around and was brainwashed by stupid shit like the LOA, I did everything but work my a$$ off.

It's a good lesson

 

[Vick]

you'll get there. anybody can be wealthy. just keep pushin and learn from mistakes. and don't be envious of him, be happy for him. learn from him. and be motivated by him.

you may have to try something else Tommy. I don't see income with this project.

 

[Anon3587x]

Additionally, from what I've read, I'm not seeing a genuine need here. It reminds me of another creation from a guy that use to visit here regularily: BatAds.com -- I remember then he explained it and I was like WTF is this? There's no need/value here (and I don't think he agreed with me) and now that site is dead.

Here's a link to my DejaVu.
WEB/DIGITAL - re-launch of BatAds.com!

I got an email saying my old websites thread was bumped, I thought, 'Oh no,' and had to see what the fuss was about.

Anyways, I see you're trying to get a website up and going. So i'll share some advice.

When MJ says, 'WTF is this?' in regards to my website, he is referencing the fact that I did a poor job of articulating the service that my website was providing. The UI of my website was not optimized, nor was it's purpose clearly explained. Additionally, in my own mind, I didn't have a clear notion of how to monetize the service I was providing, and the resulting lack of clarity allowed doubt to emerge in my thoughts which held me back from going all in on what I had built, and taking the site to the next level.

In short, before undertaking any project, know exactly what it is you're trying to build, make sure you've had dozens of friends/family check the mission statement of your website to ensure your service is clearly explained, and also have tangible plan for monetizing the service.

Oh, and MJ. You're an a**hole for calling me out like that! lol
And Russ, if you see this. I'm giving you the **stinkeye** and you know why!

 

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[theag]

Well your friend seems like a smart guy because he understands the concept of leverage. You don't. Thats why he succeeds with the same business model and you don't.

Nobody in the real world cares how much time you spent working on something.

Imagine what would have happend if you spent those 5 months trying to get in contact with some big names...

 

[Tommy92l]

Feel Hopeless. Good excuse.

might not want to keep that one for very long tho.

Z

So what you're telling me to do is S T F U and just keep working

 

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[DeletedUser2]

So what you're telling me to do is S T F U and just keep working

well, thats one way of looking at it.



Z

 

[BeingChewsie]

And my website is Welcome to TizeMe

I have no idea what your website does? What does it do for me? You need to tell me on the first page, in under a 3 count or I'm hitting X.

What are the benefits?

Do not make your visitors think. How do you pronounce your websites name? Anything that creates that type of uncertainty from the get go is not good.

Hang in there.

Sue

 

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[Shades]

All you can worry about is yourself. Sounds like your friend may have just created a job for himself. For all you know he works 100 hours a week and is miserable. Human nature is to make everything sound great when talking to friends about things like this. You want people to think your life is the greatest.

 

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[1PercentStreet]

I honestly don't understand your website. It doesn't make sense. A free website directory? Like a dmoz.org?

How are you going to make money from it? Have you made anything from it?

Use your jealousy and make something happen. How long have you been working on TizeMe? Do you feel like it's going to work?

No matter what anyone else says, if you don't feel it's going to work, it won't work.

 

[The-J]

Honestly, if you can't sell free advertising to entrepreneurs, you're doing it wrong...

I looked at your front page and it looks pretty lame. Honestly, it's like you're trying to go after people who WANT to be advertised to! Who the hell wants to be advertised to, on purpose?!

Scrap it, mate, and join the rest of us who have since scrapped their projects.

I am going to leave it up while I think of something new. Then again, maybe business is not my thing. I've seemed to have more success with entertaining.

I oughta bitchslap you across the face with that line of thinking. Cmon man, you know better than that.

 

[Tommy92l]

Yeah man, I need some time to think this over. I am taking this advice, or else I wouldn't be listening and wouldn't have responded.

 

[JAJT]

.07 cents per day

Be careful there. Don't pull a Verizon.

:smilielol:

 

[Nadia]

I don't think that going for it and failing will make me feel any better, I just thing it will make me feel like I went for something and failed, which would reenforce that fact that it is just that, a dream.

However, I believe I will make it, and while I don't normally compare myself to others.. it's like trying to ignore the kid who launched a company next door from you and pulls in, in a brand new car that he paid for in cash, knowing he did so from a dream just like yours.

The funny thing about life, is that when you go online and look at a celebrity and watch them with no dreams of ever becoming what they are, you are fine with reading about them, or watching them in a movie. But when you want to become that actor or musician SO badly, and you work towards it, the feeling of hopelessness is ten fold what it would be if you'd never even thought it was possible to reach that goal. Which is strange, shouldn't it be backwards?

And my website is Welcome to TizeMe

I really have no idea why that happens either... when you aim for nothing, you feel content. When you aim for something, it feels so far away that you feel hopeless.

Failure reinforces something is a dream ? Gosh. I lost a 100K in my first company and that wasn't a dream. I had a premises, overheads, staff, clients etc etc.

You've just compared yourself to everyone else by saying "However, I believe I will make it, and while I don't normally compare myself to others." --that right there, is an addiction to excuse making.

When you aim for nothing you feel content, because it doesn't take much work to be lazy. That's why.

 

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[Tommy92l]

That was an extremely old post you've quoted and things have changed, but good point.

 

[Tommy92l]

I just talked to one of my friends, the last time I ran into him was last February, and he said that he was starting his own computer service company. Well, fast forward to present time. I contacted him to say Hi and how every thing has been going, my mind was blown.


Basically he told me he was making tons of money now. Going to close deals and make like 20 grand and just working his a$$ off to cash in.

Here I thought I was doing ok, but it seems like I have been doing nothing of the sort, haha.

He said he finally quit his job about a month or two ago since this really picked up full force, and has been in the works since DEC 2011ish or so.

To be honest, I just feel blown away even though I am working on projects of my own. I guess the thing is, his dream is coming true, mine still seems unreachable at the current time.


Has anyone ever run into someone like this? I completely see why people who have nothing going for them stay away from people who do, because they feel so intimidated and left in the dust.

If you want the website I'll pm it to you.

 

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[Tommy92l]

Addiction to excuses?