Who's gonna pay for it? (Why those evil 1% hoarders!)

[MJ DeMarco]

Absolutely cringe-worthy.

I'll hold-back my other comments based on the fact that this is a young lady.

 

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[SSimz]

It's hurtful to watch this entitlement mindset of my generation

 

[Lex DeVille]

Absolutely cringe-worthy.

I'll hold-back my other comments based on the fact that this is a young lady.

Ouch. College did a lot for her.

She definitely learned big words like "economy" and "one percent".

I wonder if she passed math?

Those comments seem personal. I meant to direct them at the mindset, not the person.

 

[DrJake]

Absolutely cringe-worthy.

I'll hold-back my other comments based on the fact that this is a young lady.

Lmao.

"And who's supposed to pay for that?"

Just like a deer in headlights.

 

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[RHL]

reddit.com

 

[DaRK9]

Is that uptone nasally voice a University requirement nowadays?

 

[EE7]

That was incredibly hard to watch. You could see the extreme doubt in her eyes when the facts were being stated. Not doubt in the facts but doubt in what she was supporting. My fiance is a middle school teacher and witnesses this type of entitlement in her students everyday.

 

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[Deleted35442]

Absolutely cringe-worthy.

I'll hold-back my other comments based on the fact that this is a young lady.

Their frustration is real though. They have a plight. They recognize there's a problem. That being said... The solutions espoused by this woman are indeed idiocy and if they don't fix their messaging it will become a disorganized mess as Occupy Wall Street became.

@MJ DeMarco Smarter demands to be made:

1. Eliminate academic tenure. Period.
2. Yank university non-profit status where blatant abuse is seen.
3. NOT demand others simply pay for it, demand REASONABLE tuition/fees. See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...12-fold-1120-percent-bloomberg_n_1783700.html
You can't even argue inflation for this. The increases are draconian.
4. Transparent financial aid. If you're middle class, you're F*cked. If you're poor (depending on institutions) you get generous financial aid and can graduate debt-free or nearly debt-free. If you're rich/prepared for college intelligently utilizing tax breaks, this doesn't matter to you obviously.
5. Advocate future income share agreements in lieu of private student loans (I wrote of this recently, this was proposed by Milton Friedman back in the 50's and got almost no traction). This will also motivate colleges to work harder in preparing and placing students for their careers & future.
6. Propose radical reforms for the issuance of private student loan debt and forgiveness. Even maximum limits students are allowed to take shifting the burden to the colleges to make up the difference (again, income share agreements).
7. This comes back to fees. But to be specific. Eliminating ludicrous mandatory fees/housing arrangements. For example. Many universities require freshmen stay in overpriced dorms not consistent with the local real estate renting market. Penalizing students for holding their own health insurance assessing annual fees. I could go on.

The opposition to this movement has largely been brainwashed by the media using the same arguments to try to undermine a very real issue. Mark my words, something big, very big is coming.

 

[Iwokeup]

That's a breathtaking video

 

[RHL]

That's a breathtaking video

"Who's going to pay for that?"

*One Mississippi*

*Two Mississippi*

*Three Mississippi*

*Four Mississippi*

"Ummm.... that's a great question."

Also, demanding wage hikes from a system where you're both a buyer and a seller (ex. employees at a university who are paid to work there and pay to go there) isn't ever going to go well because you're in a closed system. Unless their work is recruiting, the only way to get that money is to dip into a pot that is funded by their tuition.

 

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[hellolin]

She failed to realize the very thing she is complained about is the biggest sorting mechanic in the country: the university system.

 

[Ubermensch]

Absolutely cringe-worthy.

I'll hold-back my other comments based on the fact that this is a young lady.

Two minutes after watching this video, I saw why you posted this.

I laughed harder at this interview than I have any stand up comedian.


0:00 - 0:03: Woman says "encourage government to get bigger... that's one way to do it."

One way to do what? Further F-up America. If so, then yes.

"Forgive the debt if you work for Uncle Sam."

Work for Uncle Sam to pay off a debt?

Uh, no thanks.

I'll pass on that deal.

0:36: She ironically (we see later why) describes her movement as seeking "more equitable and fair really models, as opposed to the really corporate model currently in place." In the 48 Laws of Power, Robert Greene points out that those who talk most of "fairness" and "equality actually want nothing of the sort. To treat each man equally and fairly entails leaving each man on his own, allowing him to enjoy his wins and suffer his losses all by his lonesome. If he falls, he does not drag down his fellow man down with him, nor does he a demand a helping hand to help him get up. Rather, he rises on his own, by his own bootstraps if necessary, and - fittingly so - as he rises, he brings up his fellow man with him. In capitalism, the system whose fruits this girl seeks to arbritrarily extract, exploit and enjoy, whilst she simultaneously - with that very action - seeks to destroy the seeds that produce said fruit. A class case of the mouth that (uknowingly) bites the hand that feeds it.

Side note: You know, I've always wondered about that phrase: biting the hand that feeds you. If you rely on someone else's hands to feed you, what on earth are you doing with your own hands? *sigh* My generation needs to stop doing forearm workouts in front of their computers and get to work.

2:15. This is when she gives the answer to the question: What if the 1% leave? Her answer is that the United States' capitalism will always produce one percenters. In the United States, the rate at which citizens renounce citizenship rises by large percentages every year. Forbes recently reported that Americans are renouncing their citizenship at record rates. So, Cavuto wasn't talking hypothetically. And, literally, if you remove enough cream of the crop, you have no cream left.

By 5:34, you get to see a kind of sad irony. She mentions that her family "already" receives a great deal of government assistance, which is another way of saying that the government robs Peter (the 1%) to pay Paul (her family), in part so that they can "scrape by" and "send her to college." Her performance in this interview tells us whether or not that money was well spent.

6:42. Cavuto points out to her that the one percent is smart and they are "scurrying all over the globe," no doubt using strategies that @GlobalWealth and others advocate. She regards this as a "problem." @SSimz Yes, it hurts to see the entitlement mindset branded deeply in the minds of a fellow millenial. These are the kids that grew up getting trophies even when they lost, even when they sucked. Legion of complaining. corpulent crybabies, demanding to have their cake, so that they can eat it, too. Waaaaaaaaaaah! I want free health care! Give it to me! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah!!! I want a free college education! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaaah!!! After you pay for my education, I want $15 an hour for working on campus!

7:02. The lights are on, but no one is home. This girl talks, but her mouth is not connected to any sort of logical mental process. She obviously just wants what she wants - now! waaaaah! waaaaah! - and hasn't done any calculations or research into the feasibility of her project. She just sees the top one percent as an endless herd of human cattle, enough to keep her fat and fed.

The fact that she doesn't know the numbers for her own campaign show how ill-prepared she is not only for this interview, but for life itself.

And while I did laugh at the opening parts of the video, all I see now is a grim reminder of why I'm leaving the USA behind.

@TTG SS It used to make me angry, too. It made me mad until I decided to leave the U.S. The entitled brats can have this country. They can have its forever increasing debt, its obese population full of unhealthy people who want me to pay for their health care. They can have America.

 

[TTG SS]

Damn... Couldn't even watch this without getting angry, had to shut it off. This stuff really makes my blood boil, I mean really, this fires me up.

I HATE entitled morons!

I am around the same age and this still disgusts me.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

She is dumber than a bag of hammers

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[rc08234]

She is dumber than a bag of hammers

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And shes not even cute, no wonder why she is so pissed off at the rich. She knows she has 0% chance of being a trophy wife

 

[Tim0thy_D]

Its really aggravating that people don't know how to make money without a college degree. I'm still in high school now finishing up my last year but i am not even considering college as an option anymore. My parents have the money to spend on it but it would make me sick to the stomach to think that my parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for me to do something which is unnecessary. Just waiting to finish school and start working because just thinking about being stuck doing work while the world is excitingly going on around me is quite frustrating.

 

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[DrJake]

@MJ DeMarco

Alright MJ.. It's time to stop hoarding and cough up my tuition fee.

If I want a Liberal Arts degree, then I should be able to get it.

#99 percent

 

[Mattie]

I'll hold-back my other comments based on the fact that this is a young lady.

I think in 2011 I had that attitude like most do of the rich, and coming out of a social work degree, I was totally naive how the system actually worked. And what you're taught in school isn't reality in helping people. And now, I understand the other side. It basically is more complicated than just saying the rich should pay for it, now that I've researched it and talked to thousands of people.

It's all their mindset and how they're taught to believe rich people don't help them. In the area I lived, upper class practically kept the area going and entrepreneurs. So I think people are blind, to the realization who is supporting their communities. Even the non-profits are supported by the upper class with donations and fundraisers. All they see is: the non-profit helping them. Not who is behind it.
Even in Health Care who funds the Hospitals? Research etc. It's not the middle class and lower class. I think my ignorance in the past was based off of the mentality of those around me in victim mentality.

I remember after I graduated, this guy in an area business stated this, "Your college lied to you, and you're not helping these people by what you've been taught." I thought that was awful at the time. Today, I understand why he said it.

Basically you're taught to tell people in poverty to go non-profits, take any job, and live off the welfare system. Meet their basic needs, send them to area services to meet their other needs. Fortunately, they don't show up unless court ordered, and just find any way not to work. They never get out, because they're told as long as you work 20 hours a week and collect food stamps you're okay and other people will help you. It's a shame. I went into that degree thinking I'd be able to help people.

It's all interesting as you go through this journey. Most of those people aren't ready to help themselves until they've hit bottom, and some of them still don't get they're creating the mess they live.

 

[luniac]

tuition fees are F*cking crazy high though nowadays... but people are also retardedly continuing to take out college loans despite no guarantee of landing a high paying job after college... but high school and parent do force college on students and berate them if they resist...

This whole education business is so dirty and unethical in my opinion.

There will be riots eventually, because although there are indeed a shit ton of entitled young pricks nowadays, the financial corruption of the government is real too, noones innocent.


I actually do think the government perhaps should pay for higher education, BUT maintain strict grade based criteria, unlike the travesty that is welfare.... yes... thats socialist.. whatever.

 

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[Andy Black]

I couldn't even get to 3 minutes. I'll come back and watch it when my cringe-levels have dropped back.

The presenter did a great job of keeping a straight face and tone. He didn't have to do anything other than give her the rope to hang herself. Talk about rope-a-dope...


I saw this video recently, and I think Gary V explains College in the same way most people here see it (if you have to take out a big loan to go to college that is)

Go to 9 mins in:

 

[SirTristram]

The fact of the matter is that Fox News is Fox News, they interview this ignorant girl that is organizing at i'd assume a base level in some college. If this movement is so large there must be a large amount of intelligent people involved. Yet they interview her.

Although I do not detract that this girl is baffling. It made me feel awkwarder than watching a sex scene in a movie as a child with your parents.

 

[BaraQueenbee]

@MJ DeMarco

Alright MJ.. It's time to stop hoarding and cough up my tuition fee.


#99 percent

GRIN

 

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[rc08234]

The fact of the matter is that Fox News is Fox News, they interview this ignorant girl that is organizing at i'd assume a base level in some college. If this movement is so large there must be a large amount of intelligent people involved. Yet they interview her.

Although I do not detract that this girl is baffling. It made me feel awkwarder than watching a sex scene in a movie as a child with your parents.

I'm sure there are much smarter people, but it is her fault for agreeing to do the interview. How can you agree to go on TV and debate a cause you feel very strongly about yet don't even really understand it. I think she got of easy.

She is the main problem with society today, getting behind a movement that they know nothing about because it's the cool/trendy thing to do. People like her are the reason cecil the lion thing got so out of control.

 

[Ubermensch]

The fact of the matter is that Fox News is Fox News, they interview this ignorant girl that is organizing at i'd assume a base level in some college. If this movement is so large there must be a large amount of intelligent people involved. Yet they interview her.

Although I do not detract that this girl is baffling. It made me feel awkwarder than watching a sex scene in a movie as a child with your parents.

I think you're missing the point a bit.

We have all seen the brutal interviewing tactics by those in the mainstream media, irrespective of the channel. TV personalities have mastered the art of the interview, and can make a public experience an absolute nightmare for the unprepared.

However, Cavuto does not loud talk this girl. I didn't catch him even interrupt her once (he certainly didn't interrupt her more than she interrupted him).

The stupidity of the movement speaks for itself. The simple fact of logic is that capitalism produces fruit, and attempts to defile the system of capitalism with excessive levels of government intervention are unrealistic and unsustainable. They produce only demise if implemented.

The scary part is that this generation does not know that. This girl is not the problem. The culture is the problem. This one individual is merely a singularity, enmeshed in a mass of mumbling millennial morons. It's as if when they speak, you can literally hear Winston Churchill's immortal quote: "The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter." Well, in this case, nine minutes.

I actually do think the government perhaps should pay for higher education, BUT maintain strict grade based criteria, unlike the travesty that is welfare.... yes... thats socialist.. whatever.

@jon.a

Don't you love it when people say "government should pay" for this or that, as if "government" itself has any money.

Saying that the "government" should pay for something is a euphemism for saying that the productive members of society should be further financially burdened by some wisher's whimsical wanting.

I'm sure there are much smarter people, but it is her fault for agreeing to do the interview. How can you agree to go on TV and debate a cause you feel very strongly about yet don't even really understand it. I think she got of easy.

Sure, there are smarter people. They are our college-educated leaders in public office, the ones spending trillions upon trillions every year - each year more than the preceding year - digging the debt hole ever deeper and ever wider.

The problem is that stupid ideas don't magically become smart ideas, just because a smart person thinks it. In the mind of a dummy or a genius, a dumb idea is a dumb idea.

I think in 2011 I had that attitude like most do of the rich, and coming out of a social work degree, I was totally naive how the system actually worked. And what you're taught in school isn't reality in helping people. And now, I understand the other side. It basically is more complicated than just saying the rich should pay for it, now that I've researched it and talked to thousands of people.

It's all their mindset and how they're taught to believe rich people don't help them. In the area I lived, upper class practically kept the area going and entrepreneurs. So I think people are blind, to the realization who is supporting their communities. Even the non-profits are supported by the upper class with donations and fundraisers. All they see is: the non-profit helping them. Not who is behind it.
Even in Health Care who funds the Hospitals? Research etc. It's not the middle class and lower class. I think my ignorance in the past was based off of the mentality of those around me in victim mentality.

I remember after I graduated, this guy in an area business stated this, "Your college lied to you, and you're not helping these people by what you've been taught." I thought that was awful at the time. Today, I understand why he said it.

Basically you're taught to tell people in poverty to go non-profits, take any job, and live off the welfare system. Meet their basic needs, send them to area services to meet their other needs. Fortunately, they don't show up unless court ordered, and just find any way not to work. They never get out, because they're told as long as you work 20 hours a week and collect food stamps you're okay and other people will help you. It's a shame. I went into that degree thinking I'd be able to help people.

It's all interesting as you go through this journey. Most of those people aren't ready to help themselves until they've hit bottom, and some of them still don't get they're creating the mess they live.

Most of it, at least in the United States, boils down to ignorance of the facts:

Most billionaires are self-made, not heirs

There are More Self-Made Billionaires on the Forbes List than Ever Before

The girl made a claim that the top 1% owns 99% of the wealth. I find those numbers highly suspect.

In any case, that claim is irrelevant, and only shows her inability to link empirical data to logical arguments and conclusions.

In the United States, they can't tax wealth. LOL. Not until you die, anyway. They can only tax income.

The facts about income taxes:

The Richest 1% of Americans Pay 24% of Federal Taxes

The Top 1 Percent Pays More in Taxes than the Bottom 90%

The Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 68 Percent of Federal Income Taxes

The Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax

Translation: The productive members of society give to society when they fill needs in the marketplace, and when they are taxed. In the USA, they are already taxed extremely and excessively. No surprise that people are starting to leave in record numbers, as Cavuto mentions.

 

[Shades]

Sadly, that right there is pretty much the majority of people college age and younger now. There will always be a percentage that are smart free thinkers. But that percentage is shrinking. These kids are raised from high school up being taught these "core values" from their teachers and/or parents. Its a pretty shitty cycle. We are smack in the middle of, or maybe the beginning of the golden age of the entitled.

You have these kids going to school for music therapy. Or maybe psychology. Then when that doesnt work out, theres always the fall back to become a teacher. And they sit and wonder what happened when they spend thousands for a worthless education in something that was never going to make money in the first place. It must be someone elses fault! Now give me my $15 for doing some job that was NEVER meant to be a life long "career" for anybody like flipping burgers.

In a time where you can learn pretty much anything, any skill so long as you have a internet connection, its going the opposite way. Record numbers are going to college because its "the thing you do". Not realizing you would need a masters to even begin to separate yourself these days in a lot of fields since any joe schmo applicant has a bachelors. Does the thought never cross the mind that maybe the plan doesnt seem to add up?

I get that not everyone will just go start businesses. Just not how it works. But these kids dont want to do work of any kind really. There are jobs, pretty well paying jobs in skilled labor. Welders, heavy equipment mechanics etc.... But nobody wants that. Its below everyone and looks too much like a days work. Screw plumbers or electricians too, who wants to do that?

And whats going on around a few of these campuses right now really triggers me. But I wont get in to that

 

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[Shdreams]

Clearly that girl was a lob ball thrown at a well prepared news anchor to hit a home run. By the news station owned and operated by 1%ers. There's 1000's of students that would walk all over that guy intellectually. I don't agree with the girls argument At all let's just make that clear! But my opinion is Fox news is a joke.

 

[Shades]

Clearly that girl was a lob ball thrown at a well prepared news anchor to hit a home run. By the news station owned and operated by 1%ers. There's 1000's of students that would walk all over that guy intellectually. I don't agree with the girls argument At all let's just make that clear! But my opinion is Fox news is a joke.

Where are they? Ive seen many of them talk lately given the current news of the country. This is about what you get. Nobody really that informed. Mostly parroting things some teacher told them in class one day. No real clue how the world works. In a bubble of their own creating. Screaming at those who dare have different views, while at the same time screaming for diversity. Yea......

 

[Shades]

 

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[Shdreams]

Maybe my opinion should of been withheld seeing as I'm Canadian. And this thread is the first I've heard of this. And I think of fox as the equivalent of Tabloids.

 

[rc08234]

Clearly that girl was a lob ball thrown at a well prepared news anchor to hit a home run. By the news station owned and operated by 1%ers. There's 1000's of students that would walk all over that guy intellectually. I don't agree with the girls argument At all let's just make that clear! But my opinion is Fox news is a joke.

I don't think he was that well prepared, just more prepared than her. Given there are 1000's of students that would walk all over that guy for her side, there are also 1000's of students that would walk all over him for his side also. Meaning that he didn't make the strongest argument and there are far better qualified people to argue his point that would make him look silly. It wasn't a vid of the best of the best conversing, it was one mildly prepared news anchor vs one very poorly prepared student.