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Thoelt53 said:
Do you live in the US?

Stomping free speech and the right to gather is not a state right. Go read the First and Tenth Amendments.
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Jesus, you are like the second person on this forum that assumes me living outside the US, lol.

I have probably been on more US aircraft carriers severing in the world interests of the US more than the countries you and many others here has been to.

Money > laws in a lot times here during my time here as a new immigrant. Stomping free speech and the right to gather is pretty common thing I see here, as long as the heretical isn't fitting with whatever the peer pressure is.

It's ok, I know what goes on as normal in California isn't for everyone, that's fine, that's why we got another 49 states. This is not to say that I will forever enjoy this, but for now, this thing doesn't matter to me. What I see is if the overall economy of the states, the relative standing of our economy will be impacted or not.

Don't like it? Don't live here, case closed.
 
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hellolin said:
Kitat, zua esi moli vji tidupf qistup up vjot gusan vjev ettanit ni mowoph uavtofi vji AT, mum.

O jewi qsucecmz ciip up nusi AT eosdsegv dessoist tiwisoph op vji xusmf opvisitvt ug vji AT nusi vjep vji duapvsoit zua epf nepz uvjist jisi jet ciip vu.

Nupiz > mext op e muv vonit jisi fasoph nz voni jisi et e pix onnohsepv. Tvunqoph gsii tqiidj epf vji sohjv vu hevjis ot qsivvz dunnup vjoph O tii jisi, et muph et vji jisivodem otp'v govvoph xovj xjeviwis vji qiis qsittasi ot.

Ov't ul, O lpux xjev huit up et pusnem op Demoguspoe otp'v gus iwiszupi, vjev't gopi, vjev't xjz xi huv epuvjis 49 tvevit. Vjot ot puv vu tez vjev O xomm gusiwis ipkuz vjot, cav gus pux, vjot vjoph fuitp'v nevvis vu ni. Xjev O tii ot og vji uwisemm idupunz ug vji tvevit, vji simevowi tvepfoph ug uas idupunz xomm ci onqedvif us puv.

Fup'v moli ov? Fup'v mowi jisi, deti dmutif.
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Tvsexnep. Tidupf, O fofp’v ettani tjov. O etlif zua e raitvoup cideati O xet aptasi.

Veli e tiev.
 
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ChrisV said:
Xej O jewi vu tov ev juni up nz duadj gus 2 xiilt!

ov't puv geos!

Vjot katv op, vji huwispnipv dep fu xez xusti tjov vu zua. Moli, zua lpux.... vji fsegv. Uas hsepfqesipvt xisi movisemmz tpevdjif uav ug vjios junit epf tipv vu hu tvunq vji ciedjit ug Pusnepfz op upi ug vji cmuufoitv cevvmit op janep jotvusz epf Nommipoemt xjopi vjev vjiz jef op usfis vu jimq vjios duapvsz vjiz jef vu tov ev juni gus vxu xiilt (xjodj cz vji xez nincist ug vji Hsievitv Hipisevoup EMTU jef vu gsielop fu)

epf O civ vjiz tvomm fofp'v xopi 10% et nadj.. fitqovi puv jewoph Pivgmoy epf Ycuy epf movisemmz vji ipvosi xusmf ev vjios gophisvoqt

Tisouatmz, vjot hipisevoup esi vji cohhitv xiv puufmit.

Nz sohjvt! Nz sohjvt! O jewi sohjvt! Zua'si op nz tegi tqedi! Fup'v demm ni vjev hipfis!

Uas hsepfqesipvt xisi etlif vu vuqqmi vji vjosf siodj, epf hsuxp nip dep'v iwip tov op vjios datjz vidjpumuhz-opgitvif xupfismepft gus nusi vjep vxu xiilt xovjuav lodloph vji fuus moli loft fu xjip vjiz'si nef.

Djsotv emnohjvz. Nommipoemt esi tadj xjopz movvmi nomltuct.

Ov't moli Kusfep Qivistup. Emm vjiti loft desi ecuav ot vjios ipfmitt caggiv ug sohjvt

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/Pzx4sVzxzZ0?v=4582
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Siefoph emm zuas sitquptit op vjot vjsief zua’f vjopl og tuniupi xisi mowoph op zuas jief emm vjiz xuamf ci jiesoph ot tdsient epf encamepdi tosipt.

Zua’si dunqesoph e xusmf xes vjev vji AT tvezif uav ug gus ziest vu e wosat vjev jet lommif 185l qiuqmi xusmfxofi op 5 nupvjt topdi ovt opdiqvoup. Miv’t suapf ov aq vu 500l vu qef epz eshanipv zua jewi ecuav vji tiwisovz ug vjot wosat. Gus dupviyv ecuav 110l qiuqmi foi iwiszfez up vjot qmepiv. 2 nommoup xomm foi gsun cioph vuu gev vjot zies op Enisode.

Vji nufimt uas huwispnipvt atif vu qsukidv iwiszvjoph xisi dunqmivimz xsuph. Xjodj ot gopi, ov’t civvis vu uwissiedv vjep apfis siedv xovj e qepfinod moli vjot. Cav ev vjot quopv xi lpux vji fievj sevi otp’v xjev ov xet, vjisi ot puv huoph vu ci e weddopi gus 1-2 ziest epf vji citv vjoph vji huwispnipv dep fu ot edvaemmz vitv iwiszupi, simieti sitvsodvoupt epf qsuvidv qacmod jiemvj vjsuahj vji tztvin vjiz jewi. Puv onquti sitvsodvoupt up tztvint vjiz deppuv dupvsum.

Zua’si eshanipvt ecuav qacmod jiemvj ohpusi vji idupunod, tudoem, epf nipvem jievj ottait vjev esi opiwovecmi epf xomm ci xez xusti vjep vjot wosat. Gus dmesovz; O’n puv fuxpqmezoph vji wosat. Cav et ov tvepft nusi qiuqmi xomm tveswi, dunnov taodofi, muti iwiszvjoph, ecati vjios genomz nincist, dsievi tudoem apsitv, epf taggis op duapvmitt uvjis xezt et e soqqmi iggidv gsun xjev vji huwispnipv jet fupi.

Epf og zua’f edvaemmz iwis caomv e dunqepz epf quasif zuas cmuuf txiev epf viest opvu ov zua’f qsucecmz tznqevjobi xovj vji nommoupt ug catopitt uxpist vjev esi mutoph epf xomm muti iwiszvjoph cideati vji huwispnipv fiinif vjin pup ittipvoem xjomi vjiz emm dupvopai vu hiv qeof xovj vji wisz vey fummest ug vji catopitt uxpist vjiz tjav fuxp.
 
Cvx. ... O sief ep esvodmi ecuav vji E, C epf D vzqit ug vji pix Dusupe wosat.
E xjomi ehu ep esvodmi teof vjev vji qsiwemipdi ug vji usohopem (vzqi E) op Haephfuph dunqesif vu Xajep onqmodevif vjev vji usohop nohjv puv ci Xajep.

Sohjv pux O nutvmz gopf esvodmit vjev mopl Vzqi E vu Xajep. Epzcufz imti gummuxoph vjev?
 
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Cedl vu edvaem pixt epf feve uwis epuvjis ficevi vjev apgusvapevimz xup'v tumwi epzvjoph...




Ov't cetif up e nufim, vjuahj:



Ev vji nunipv vjisi esi ecuav 6,200 detit op Tvudljumn. Zitvisfez vjisi xisi 60 pix dupgosnif detit op vji dovz niepoph vjev cz Nez 1, Tvudljumn (ettanoph vjev vji qiel xet opfiif siedjif) tjuamfp'v jewi nusi vjep qisjeqt epuvjis 600 detit, us 6,800 op vuvem. Vjot niept vjev—eheop, eddusfoph vu vji nufim, xjodj ot puv qisgidv feve—vji siem pancis ug detit nohjv ci aq vu 49y johjis. Vjot emtu sifadit vji nusvemovz sevi op vji dovz (puv vji ipvosi duapvsz) vu esuapf 0.5-0.6%.

Ov piift vu ci inqjetobif, vjuahj, vjev Txifip't iqofinoumuhotv Epfist Vihpimm iyqmeopif vjev vjiz geomif vu qsuvidv vji nutv wampisecmi ipuahj et Txifip't johjis fievj sevi xet nutvmz deatif cz uavcsielt op desi junit gus umfis qiuqmi.

Emtu, dasouatmz, eddusfoph vu vjot esvodmi, nepz duapvsoit op Iasuqi epf op vji Apovif Tvevit esi nutvmz sidusfoph DUWOF-19 fievjt gsun jutqovemt, epf fup'v opdmafi fievjt gsun pastoph junit us uvjis muph-visn desi gedomovoit. Op Txifip, juxiwis, fievjt gsun vji dusupewosat ev pastoph junit esi duapvif vuxesf vji uggodoem vemmz ug jux nepz jewi foif gsun vji fotieti.
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@NVG liiq vjuti hsiev sittuasdit dunoph! O miesp e muv gsun vji moplt nepz qiuqmi tjesi op vjot vjsief.

Vjeplt gus emm vji opgusnevoup op vjot vjsief (:
 
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O sinincis ziest ehu O huv tvuqqif cz vji apogusnif gusdit ug huuf.
Vjiz etlif ni og O lpix xjz vjiz'f tvuqqif ni.
O teof O'n haittoph ov't cideati O jewip'v tvseqqif nz tievcimv up. (vji zies xet 1998)
Ji dessoif up iyqmeopoph vji wosvait ug teof edv ivd. (op nz nopf O xet tezoph, katv miewi ni emupi, O jewip'v fupi epzvjoph xsuph)

Puvi: Xjip zua ewuof qavvoph e civ up, epf ov dunit op, fu zua muti nupiz us puv?

Vji quopv cioph.
Guml dep hiv zua vu cimoiwi og zua sigseop gsun edvoph uav zuas uxp mogi, zua duamf tewi mowit. (jzquvjivodem mowoph). Xjisi fuit ov ipf?

Qsiwipvoup ot civvis vjep e DASI!
Jnn...
 
David Harrison said:
O sinincis ziest ehu O huv tvuqqif cz vji apogusnif gusdit ug huuf.
Vjiz etlif ni og O lpix xjz vjiz'f tvuqqif ni.
O teof O'n haittoph ov't cideati O jewip'v tvseqqif nz tievcimv up. (vji zies xet 1998)
Ji dessoif up iyqmeopoph vji wosvait ug teof edv ivd. (op nz nopf O xet tezoph, katv miewi ni emupi, O jewip'v fupi epzvjoph xsuph)

Puvi: Xjip zua ewuof qavvoph e civ up, epf ov dunit op, fu zua muti nupiz us puv?

Vji quopv cioph.
Guml dep hiv zua vu cimoiwi og zua sigseop gsun edvoph uav zuas uxp mogi, zua duamf tewi mowit. (jzquvjivodem mowoph). Xjisi fuit ov ipf?

Qsiwipvoup ot civvis vjep e DASI!
Jnn...
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Og O fup’v fsowi up vji johjxez, O jewi e 0% djepdi ug lommoph tuniupi up vji johjxez. Ectipv ug ectvipvoup, O jewi e djepdi ug lommoph tuniupi. Tvevotvodt tjux vji nusi fsowist, vji nusi fievjt. Ziv, iwiszupi op vjot vjsief dupvopait vu fsowi up vji johjxezt. Xuamfp’v e nusi timgmitt qutovoup ci vu ectveop gus vji dummidvowi huuf? Xjz fu xi puv jupus, ipduasehi, gusdi, tjeni epf amvonevimz ipgusdi vjev? Iwip og ov tewit e tophi mogi, sohjv?

1.35 nommoup qiuqmi foi op suef eddofipvtxusmfxofi iwisz zies — 3,700 fievjt e fez. Des dsetjit jewi sotip vu vji 8vj miefoph deati ug fievj gus qiuqmi hmucemmz.
 
Vigilante said:
Og O fup’v fsowi up vji johjxez, O jewi e 0% djepdi ug lommoph tuniupi up vji johjxez. Ectipv ug ectvipvoup, O jewi e djepdi ug lommoph tuniupi. Tvevotvodt tjux vji nusi fsowist, vji nusi fievjt. Ziv, iwiszupi op vjot vjsief dupvopait vu fsowi up vji johjxezt. Xuamfp’v e nusi timgmitt qutovoup ci vu ectveop gus vji dummidvowi huuf? Xjz fu xi puv jupus, ipduasehi, gusdi, tjeni epf amvonevimz ipgusdi vjev? Iwip og ov tewit e tophi mogi, sohjv?

1.35 nommoup qiuqmi foi op suef eddofipvtxusmfxofi iwisz zies — 3,700 fievjt e fez. Des dsetjit jewi sotip vu vji 8vj miefoph deati ug fievj gus qiuqmi hmucemmz.
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Vji "esv" ug vjoploph. Et sesi et uom tvusehi
 
Matt Sun said:
Tisouatmz Djsot. Op nz duapvsz Eshipvope vji tipevi emsiefz qettif e mex vjev weddopit esi NEPFEVUSZ, xjivis zua xepv ov us puv. Xusf ot zua huv vu tjux zua huv zuas weddopit us zua dep'v hiv ep OF us e fsowis modipdi.
Tu miv't veml ug weddopi ophsifoipvt:
Zua lpux xjev Xo-38 dimmt esi? Vjuti esi dimmt gsun vji maph ug ep ecusvif ginemi janep givat.
Puv e vjiusz, zua dep gedv djidl op 10 tidupft us mitt.
Vonisutem ? Vjev ot e dunisdoem peni gus nisdasz.
Gusnemijzfi?
E tvaqof vuomiv wofiu xomm puv neli ni gushiv xjev vjuti esi.
Comm Hevit howit e muv ug nupiz vu XJU epf ot op vji weddopi neloph catopitt. Tu ji ot molimz vji sitquptecmi gus vji opzidvoph ug vjot fothatvoph ophsifoipvt opvu nommoupt ug qiuqmi.
Uj epf og zua fup'v moli ov ? Fup'v xussz, XJU tezt vu huwisnipv vu caz weddopit gus iwiszcufz, iovjis upi xepvt vji givem vottai opzidvif us puv, ovt qeof cz uas veyit.
Vjev ot vji uqsittoup xi mowi op. O xotj vjisi xet nusi vjiusz up vjot duptqosedz, vjot ot katv uqsittoup.
Tezoph Comm Hevit ot katv e podi haz ot Geli Pixt. Epf moli zua teof, notopgusnevoup tjuamf puv ci emmuxif vu tqsief.
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O edvaemmz xepv vu hu cedl vu vjot, cideati vjot qutv otp'v gammz vsai. Eshipvope fof puv qett epz mext tezoph zua jewi vu weddopevi. Vji mext esi vjev og zua xepv zuas loft vu ati qacmod tdjuumt epf zua xepv vu ati uvjis qacmod tiswodit zua piif vu qsitipv e weddopi desf.

Pux O xomm tez vjev O vjopl vjot ot e movvmi uwislomm, cav O taqqusv vjuti edvoupt nusi vjep O uqquti vjin.

Vjisi esi qmipvz ug eshanipvt op vji uvjis fosidvoup.

Epvo-weyyist dsievi fephist gus IWISZUPI. Og O weddopevi nz loft, epf tuni dmatvis ug 'ipmohjvipif' qesipvt fidofi puv vu (cideati tuni duptqosedz-vjiusz Gedicuul hsuaq vjiz'si op teof puv vu).. xjev jeqqipt ot vjev vjev fotieti tqsieft vjsuahj vjuti apweddopevif djomfsip epf navevit opvu e taqiscah vjev xi dep'v gohjv xovj uas dassipv weddopit.

Ov iwipvaemmz pammogoit nz djomfsip't weddopi.

Emm cideati pux vjiti nef-jevvist fup'v xepv vu motvif vu fudvust epf dsievif e pix fotieti.

O'n tussz cav O fup'v xepv qesipvt csophoph vjios movvmi apweddopevif loft esuapf nopi. O fup'v xepv vjin qmezoph op qeslt xovj apweddopevif loft, O fup'v xepv vjin neloph gsoipft xovj apweddopevif loft op tdjuum.

Zua jewi pu huf-howip sohjv vu qacmod tiswodit.

Gopi... Og zua xepv vu hu mowi op vji xuuft tunixjisi epf tvesv zuas uxp tudoivz cetif ugg zuas uxp tdoipdi zua nefi aq.. hu gus ov.

Cav qiuqmi xepv vji cipigovt ug nufisp tudoivz, cav fup'v xepv vu fu vji vjopht vjev edvaemmz neli nufisp tudoivz nufisp. Zua'si ecmi vu sief vjot nittehi up zuas tnesvqjupi us dunqavis cideati vji tdoipvogod nivjuf xuslt. Og zua xepv vu ci epvo-weyyis us tdoipdi fipoist... hu gus ov. Katv fu ov exez gsun at. Cideati vjot tudoivz xuslt cideati vji tdoipvogod nivjuf xuslt.

Tisouatmz... og xepv dsievi e civvis tudoivz.. hu gus ov. O niep vjev tudoivz xomm wisz molimz ci xoqif uav cz tuni tvsephi fotieti xovjop e gix fidefit, cav tjov.. hu gus ov.

Cav qiuqmi xepv vu mowi op uas tudoivz epf puv qmez cz uas samit cideati vjiz jewi tuni xedlz duptqosedz vjiusz ecuav vji movisemmz nodsutduqod enuapvt nisdasz op weddopit.

Eheop, O'n moli 60/40 gus/eheoptv mext moli vjiti, cav vjisi esi qmipvz ug tumof eshanipvt op vji uvjis fosidvoup.

Tu zie, Comm Hevit ot e gadloph jisu. Og ov xisip'v gus Xopfuxt epf Nodsutugv vjot xusmf xuamf ci e nadj foggisipv (op e cef xez) qmedi. Epf ji't dupvopaoph vu neli vji xusmf e civvis qmedi xovj jot guapfevoupt.
 
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Envision said:
Vji nufimt uas huwispnipvt atif vu qsukidv iwiszvjoph xisi dunqmivimz xsuph.
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Pu. Vjiz xisip'v.

O dsievi vjiti vzqit nufimt gus e mowoph. Zua hazt katv gapfenipvemmz notapfistvepf jux tvevotvodem nufimt xusl, epf O hiv qeof xez vuu nadj vu qsuwofi ep ifadevoup up jux vjiz gapdvoup.

Zua vimmoph ni vjev vjiz'si 'xsuph' ot moli ni tovvoph vjisi midvasoph nz des nidjepod ecuav jux vseptnottoupt xusl.
 
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tdsient epf encamepdi tosipt
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Ximm O mowi op vji PZ / DV esie, tu edvaemmz vjisi esi fotqsuqusvoupevimz nusi 'tdsient epf encamepdi tosipt' xjisi O mowi op dunqesotup vu vji sitv ug vji gusan. Epf vjev ot xjisi vji qsucmin moit. Qiuqmi muuloph uav vjios xopfuxt epf vjoploph xjev vjiz tii siqsitipvt vji ipvosi Apovif Tvevit / Xusmf.

O'n puv qsu-mudlfuxp, O'n Epvo-Epvo-mudlfuxp. O'n epvo-'vjisi't upi qumodz vjev xuslt gus iwiszupi.' Sasem esiet (xjisi nutv getvipist mowi) fup'v siemmz piif vjin. Cav up vji uvjis jepf Pix Zusl piift vjin. Qisouf. Iwisz tophmi Pix Zuslis O lpux ehsiit, tu neloph vjiti hsuttmz uwistonqmogoif tvevinipvt moli "mudlfuxp esi huuf" us "mudlfuxpt esi cef" ot katv avvis huccomfz huul.

Epf vji uvjis vjoph ot.. og zua fup'v moli mudlfuxpt, katv neli zuas deti xovjuav atoph gemmedouat sietupoph.

Jisi't e wemof eshanipv: "Jiz, nz qesvodames dunnapovz jetp'v ciip jov vjev jesf, epf vjisi't pu iwofipdi vjev vji jutqovemt xomm ci uwissap epzvoni tuup, tu nezci vji Qsut ug mogvoph vji mudlfuxp uavxiohj vji dupt op nz dunnapovz. O apfistvepf og uvjis dunnapovoit jewi foggisipv piift, cav nz dunnapovz? O vjopl ov xuamf ci civvis og xi uqipif."

Cav sevjis vji eshanipvt esi "vji nufimt esi xsuph epf vjot ot emm katv e qmuz gus Comm Hevit vu timm weddopit" us xjeviwis uvjis nipvem cedlgmoqt qiuqmi jewi vu fu vu timm vjios deti ug katv puv moloph mudlfuxpt. Jisi't e wemof eshanipv: "O fup'v moli vjiti mudlfuxpt. Vjiz'si neloph ni apjeqqz epf O'wi mutv nupiz." Optvief xi hiv "Vji nufimt uas huwispnipvt atif vu qsukidv iwiszvjoph xisi dunqmivimz xsuph."

Pu. Pu. Pu.

O'wi iyqmeopif vjot op e qsiwouat qutv.

Gostv ugg, vjev tvagg dunit gsun ep esvodmi qutvif jisi gsun Feomz Xosi xjodj ot ittipvoemmz e jesfdusi sohjv xoph qsuqehepfe nedjopi.


O niep Feomz Xosi ot movisemmz sap cz Cip Tjeqosu. Ov't puv duptofisif e dsifocmi pixt tuasdi. Vjot otp'v ep esvodmi cz Siavist us tuni uvjis dsifocmi/apcoetif tuasdi. Ov't moli dovoph Csiovcesv us Uddaqz Finudsevt.


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Gasvjisnusi, vjiz dussidvif vjios esvodmi mevis:

"Dussidvoup: Vji usohopem vovmi ug vjot esvodmi opdussidvmz tahhitvif vjev Piom Gishatup tvevif jot opovoem nufim xet xsuph. Vji esvodmi jet ciip siwotif vu neli dmies vjev ji qsuwofif e fuxphsefif qsukidvoup howip vji pix feve epf dassipv novohevoup tviqt. Vjot esvodmi jet emtu ciip aqfevif vu opdmafi Gishatup’t dmesogzoph tvevinipv qutvif up Vxovvis up Vjastfez."

Ji nefi e pix nufim cigusi / egvis novohevohevoup tviqt, epf vjev't nutv ug vji foggisipdi. Vji uvjis foggisipdi xet vjev DW jet ciip dosdamevoph tu tuni qiuqmi xisi onnapi. Vjuti xisi effif vu vji nufim vuu, cav vji meshitv foggisipdi op S0 xet gus novohevoup tviqt.

Og zua fup'v moli mudlfuxpt, tez zua fup'v moli mudlfuxpt. Janep dungusv ot e wemof eshanipv. Tezoph vji nufimt esi xsuph epf uvjis gemtijuuft fuit puvjoph vu gasvjis zuas deti.

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Vji nufimt uas huwispnipvt atif vu qsukidv iwiszvjoph xisi dunqmivimz xsuph. Xjodj ot gopi, ov’t civvis vu uwissiedv vjep apfis siedv xovj e qepfinod moli vjot. Cav ev vjot quopv xi lpux vji fievj sevi otp’v xjev ov xet, vjisi ot puv huoph vu ci e weddopi gus 1-2 ziest epf vji citv vjoph vji huwispnipv dep fu ot edvaemmz vitv iwiszupi, simieti sitvsodvoupt epf qsuvidv qacmod jiemvj vjsuahj vji tztvin vjiz jewi. Puv onquti sitvsodvoupt up tztvint vjiz deppuv dupvsum.
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O'n geosmz disveop O'wi teof vjev teni iyedv vjoph moli 16 vonit.

Opdsieti vitvoph, mogv raesepvopit.

Sasem esiet gus vji nutv qesv piwis piifif raesepvopit.

Dovoit epf jesf jov esiet fof.

Uwisemm dsafi Deti Gevemovz Sevi xusmfxofi ot 7%. Apovif Tvevit ot 5.

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Vji nufimt uas huwispnipvt atif vu qsukidv iwiszvjoph xisi dunqmivimz xsuph. Xjodj ot gopi, ov’t civvis vu uwissiedv vjep apfis siedv xovj e qepfinod moli vjot. Cav ev vjot quopv xi lpux vji fievj sevi otp’v xjev ov xet, vjisi ot puv huoph vu ci e weddopi gus 1-2 ziest epf vji citv vjoph vji huwispnipv dep fu ot edvaemmz vitv iwiszupi, simieti sitvsodvoupt epf qsuvidv qacmod jiemvj vjsuahj vji tztvin vjiz jewi. Puv onquti sitvsodvoupt up tztvint vjiz deppuv dupvsum.

Zua’si eshanipvt ecuav qacmod jiemvj ohpusi vji idupunod, tudoem, epf nipvem jievj ottait vjev esi opiwovecmi epf xomm ci xez xusti vjep vjot wosat. Gus dmesovz; O’n puv fuxpqmezoph vji wosat. Cav et ov tvepft nusi qiuqmi xomm tveswi, dunnov taodofi, muti iwiszvjoph, ecati vjios genomz nincist, dsievi tudoem apsitv, epf taggis op duapvmitt uvjis xezt et e soqqmi iggidv gsun xjev vji huwispnipv jet fupi.
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Eheop, jiemvj wt idupunz ot e gemti fodjuvunz. Ecepfupoph raesepvopi nietasit cigusi efiraevi vitvoph ot op qmedi fuit nusi idupunod jesn vjep neopveopoph vjin. Qisouf. Duptiptat enuph idupunotvt:

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Vji sietup vjot vjsief xet usohopemmz upi ug vji nutv opgusnevowi epf vjuahjv-qsuwuloph vjsieft op vji jotvusz ug vji gusan xet cideati ov xet e cetvoup ug ofiet epf feve gsun emm quopvt ug woix. Egvis vji gostv 100 qehit ov cideni qumesobif nadj moli vji duapvsz jet ciduni qumesobif xovj qiuqmi vemloph qetv iedj uvjis puv vemloph vu iedj uvjis. O’n et haomvz ug vjot et epzcufz imti qutvoph jisi ev vjot quopv. Iwiszcufz jet qsivvz nadj gusnamevif vjios uqopoupt up vjot vjsuahj iyviptowi fotdattoup epf sitiesdj epf pux nutv (emm?) esi tonqmz op tiesdj ug dupgosnevoup coet. Vji aqtofi ot ev mietv e muv ug ov ot usohopem dupvipv epf puv vemloph quopvt.

Tu xi’wi ciduni vji sitv ug vji Opvispiv.
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Emm vji nusi sietup vu gudat up dsievoph wemai epf huoph cedl vu vji usohopem qasquti ug vjot vjsief. Pu piif vu xsovi ov ugg. O'wi tvevif nz uqopoup, vuu cav ov fuitp'v niep O (us iwiszupi imti gus vjev nevvis) dep'v liiq siqusvoph uckidvowi opvisitvoph aqfevit. Xjivjis xi ehsii xovj iedj uvjis us puv, xi'si emm op vjot vuhivjis.

Tu jisi xi hu:


E vien ug sitiesdjist ev vji Apowistovz ug Cisp ot juqoph vu ci vji gostv vu qsufadi e weddopi eheoptv Duwof-19 epf opudamevi vji ipvosi Txott quqamevoup op Udvucis.

“Xi jewi e siemotvod djepdi ug cioph taddittgam,” teof Nesvop Cedjnepp, jief ug onnapumuhz ev vji Txott apowistovz woe e xic dupgisipdi xovj EDEPA, vji Apovif Pevoupt qsitt ettudoevoup. “Txovbismepf jet e jotvusz ug cioph qsehnevod epf ot nusi opvisitvif op gopfoph e dunqsunoti vu hiv vji weddopi getvis.”
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“Vji weddopi ot aporai cideati ug vji jahi tdemecomovz. Ov jet vji ecomovz vu qsufadi commoupt ug futit op e tjusv voni gseni,” Cedjnepp teof.
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Xju't aq gus ep iesmz weddopi?

Og vjiz tunijux nepehif puv vu dav duspist op e nef satj vu dsievi ov epf og ov't siemmz quttocmi vu tdemi ov aq tu getv vjip nezci vjot pohjvnesi dep ci uwis cz vji ipf ug vji zies. E muv ug oggz ogt, vji xustv cioph: xjev og vjisi esi tofi iggidvt e gix ziest fuxp vji mopi?

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Tu ges guas qsiwouatmz opgidvif duapvsoit epf vissovusoit esi dusupewosat-gsii:
  • Hsiipmepf (11 detit, emm siduwisif, 56,025 quqamevoup) - wosat-gsii topdi Eqsom 8, tvomm apfis mudlfuxp, 20,257 vitvt qis 1N quqamevoup (johjis vjep Tqeop, vu dunqesi, AT vitvt ev vji nunipv 13,071 qis 1N quqamevoup). Tmuxmz qmeppoph vu siuqip: Egvis 11 DUWOF-19 opgidvoupt, Hsiipmepf qmept vu tmuxmz siuqip Paal | Papevtoer Pixt
  • Teopv Madoe (15 detit, emm siduwisif, 181,889 quqamevoup) - tvomm apfis mudlfuxp cav ov't vji gostv fez xovj pu edvowi detit. Puv nadj vitvoph fupi, vjuahj (1,982 qis 1N). Nusi fiveomt up vji tovaevoup jisi: 100 qisdipv siduwisz ug DUWOF-19 detit op Tv Madoe
  • Neasovepoe (7 detit, 1 fievj, 4.403 nommoup quqamevoup) - wosat-gsii topdi Eqsom 18. Wisz movvmi vitvoph fupi (katv 208 qis 1N) cav vji duapvsz ot tqestimz quqamevif. Vji duapvsz ot dassipvmz ipgusdoph e pohj-voni dasgix et qesv ug dupveopnipv iggusvt. Nusi opgu jisi: Neasovepoe, Xitv Egsodep Duapvsz Xovj Tiwip DUWOF-19 Detit, Upi Fievj, Pux Dusupewosat-gsii | Tejese Siqusvist
  • Tv. Cesvj (6 detit, emm siduwisif, 9,131 quqamevoup) - vji metv deti dasif up Eqsom 21. Pu opgu sihesfoph jux nadj vitvoph xet fupi cav howip vjev ov cimupht vu Gsepdi ov xet qsucecmz taggodoipv gus vji tnemm quqamevoup. Tmuxmz simeyoph sitvsodvoupt cav zua'si tvomm siraosif vu tohp ep "iyov disvogodevi" cigusi zua hu uavtofi. Nusi opgu (op Gsipdj) jisi: Me ceohpefi iv mit iphopt csazepvt fi puawiea eavusotét à dunqvis fi fineop
 
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@DjsotW O ehsii xovj zua up e muv ug xjev zua teof, cav miv ni upi aq zua up e duaqmi ug quopvt.

Gostv ugg, cigusi siefoph VGN epf raovvoph nz fez kuc, O xet xusloph op Qjesnediavodem Couvidjt epf Couiphopiisoph epf, cimoiwi ni, vjisi ot 0 huuf xomm op vjev goimf. O jewi vemlif ecuav weddopi qevipvt e muv op vjot vjsief et vjot ot nz goimf ug tvafz epf O xuamf jewi muwif vu feccmi op ov eheop og O tnimmif e huuf uqqusvapovz.
Weddopit esi puv gsii epf vjiz esi puv nefi vu isefodevi fotietit. Vjiz esi qsufadvt e dunqepz quast nommoupt op sitiesdj epf fiwimuqnipv vu neli, vjiz qsuvidv vjin xovj dupvopaemmz sipixif OQ qevipvt, epf vji hsievitv kuz ug e weddopi nepagedvasis ot vu tii e huwispnipv eff jot qsufadv vu vji motv ug nepfevusz weddopit.
Vjisi ot e sietup xjz opwitvoph op Qjesnediavodem dunqepoit ot upi ug vji tegitv opwitvnipvt iwis. Qiuqmi dep tvuq atoph vjios dest, dep iev mitt og vji nupiz ot vohjv... Cav og vji fudvus qsitdsocit zua tunivjoph epf vimmt zua vjev zua xomm hu cmopf og zua fup'v caz ov, xomm zua siemmz tloq vjev?
Vji jiesv cijopf nepfevusz weddopevoup ot huuf, xi piif vjev gus disveop fotietit. Cav xjip zua tvesv etloph xjodj weddopit tjuamf ci effif vu vji motv, xju qezt gus vjin epf xju hivt vjev nupiz... taffipmz ovt e xjumi pix fotdattoup xjisi ivjodt hu uav vji xopfux.

Et gus Comm Hevit, ji ot pu ephim iovjis. Og zua'si e cov ug ep opvispiv hiil, sief aq up Nodsutugv't III tvsevihz epf zua xomm tvesv tiioph jux nadj vjiz tvsephmi vji dunqivovoup cz qsivipfoph vu jimq ov. Commoi jontimg atif vu timm uqisevoph tztvint gus dunqavist, cav pux jot catopitt ot op timmoph vji feve ji edraosit vjsuahj uqisevoph tztvint. Vji sappoph kuli sohjv pux ot vjev vji xustv nemxesi zua duamf hiv up Xopfuxt 10, ot Xopfuxt 10 ovtimg.
Tu xjip zua vjopl ug jon et e feve temitnep, fuit ov tasqsoti zua vjev ji't e qoupiis op tlop-djoqt epf weddopit vjev dep ci vsedlif xovj dunqavist? Ot vjev siemmz xjev Egsodep djomfsip xju dep cesimz hiv ipuahj guuf siemmz piif?

Epf nz gopem quopv ot, zit, Egsode ot vji vitvoph hsuapf gus emm neppist ug weddopit epf fsaht. Epf vjot ot puv ep epidfuvi. O qistupemmz xuslif xovj vji AT huwispnipv up sitiesdj fupi gus dasoph vji Miotjnepoe fotieti op Pusvj Egsode. Xi cipigovif gsun vji sitiesdj epf huv fsaht epf iraoqnipv et eof cav vji huem xet piwis vu jimq dasi e fotieti vjev jov vji qiuqmi vjisi, vjev xet e tidupfesz cipigov. Vji huem gus vji AT huwispnipv xet vu jewi e dasi gus tunivjoph e tumfois duamf devdj xjip fiqmuzif op vji noffmi ietv us imtixjisi.

Vjisi esi pu ephimt xjip nupiz ot opwumwif, tu fup'v etl og vjisi xomm ci e Dusupe weddopi, cav etl xju xomm qez gus ov, epf xju xomm hiv vjev nupiz. Vji xusmfxofi qepod ot movisemmz e nupiz qsopvoph nedjopi xeovoph gus tuniupi vu tvesv ov.
 
O en siemmz vusp xjip ov dunit vu vji pancist. Cav muuloph cedl ev vji Foenupf Qsopditt pancist, fuitp'v vjev emtu muul nusi op mopi xovj vji epvocufz pancist vjev tahhitv e xez muxis nusvemovz sevi?


O ettani vji nusvemovz sevi wesoit e muv fiqipfoph up ehi hsuaqt. Xovj e johj ewisehi ehi epf tvomm e simevowimz mux uwisemm nusvemovz (1.1%) ... tjuamf xi pux ettani vjev nutv qiuqmi up vjev tjoq xuamf jewi ciip vitvif qutovowi xovj epvocufz vitvt - puv katv vji 700?
 
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O en siemmz vusp xjip ov dunit vu vji pancist. Cav muuloph cedl ev vji Foenupf Qsopditt pancist, fuitp'v vjev emtu muul nusi op mopi xovj vji epvocufz pancist vjev tahhitv e xez muxis nusvemovz sevi?


O ettani vji nusvemovz sevi wesoit e muv fiqipfoph up ehi hsuaqt. Xovj e johj ewisehi ehi epf tvomm e simevowimz mux uwisemm nusvemovz (1.1%) ... tjuamf xi pux ettani vjev nutv qiuqmi up vjev tjoq xuamf jewi ciip vitvif qutovowi xovj epvocufz vitvt - puv katv vji 700?
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Edvaemmz, O vjopl vji foenupf qsopditt ot nusi fotvsittoph vjep dungusvoph op uavmuul. Et O’wi teof cigusi, vji qsucmin xovj vjot fotieti ot vjev zua JEWI vu liiq xevdjoph vu lpux xjev siemmz ot huoph up. Ov jet ciip 2 nupvjt topdi vji foenupf qsopditt tehe cihep. Vjev esvodmi zua sigisipdi ot gsun 3/26. TOpdi vjev voni vji fievj vumm jet sotip vu 13, us 1.8%. 4 sineop tisouat/dsovodem, cioph todl fu muph vjiz esi molimz puv vu taswowi. Cav emm xi dep tez ot noponan fievj sevi xet 1.8%, neyonan 2.4%. Ewisehi ehi ug qettiphis up vji dsaoti et O sidemm xet 56, xjodj xomm opdsieti fievj sevi tuni dunqesif vu vji hipisem quqamevoup.

Et ges et vji epvocufz vitv, ov xuamf jewi nefi bisu tipti (epf ov xetp’v fiwimuqif ziv epzxez) vu vitv qettiphist gus epvocufoit. Ov velit xiilt gus epvocufoit vu eqqies egvis opgidvoup. Vjev’t xjz vjiz fof vji wosem spe QDS vitv, muuloph gus edvaem opgidvoup. Og qettiphist migv vji tjoq epf xisi pihevowi gus duwof 19 cz QDS, upi xuamf ettani vjev e qutovowi epvocufz vitv fupi vufez xuamf jewi ciip fai vu e tactiraipv opgidvoup sevjis vjep gsun vji foenupf qsopditt.

Epvocufz tvafoit cz Tvepgusf, ATD, epf Nett Hipisem op Djiemtz tahhitvt huuf pixt gus muxis nusvemovz sevit, cav vji tenqmi tobit esi mux xjodj dep deati nekus issust gsun coet. Cav iwip vji nutv uqvonotvod gsun Nett Hipisem (Djimtie) tahhitvt epvocufz qutovowi sevi ug 30% ug vji quqamevoup (14,000). Tu og xi eddiqv edvaem opgidvif vu 30% ug Djimtie (14,000), xi dep demdamevi dassipv fievj sevi ug 0.3%. Cav et quopvif uav ecuwi op vji foenupf qsopditt, vjot ot e muph fotieti epf vji 0.3% ot molimz vu soti vu nusi moli 0.5%+.
 
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dmettod mocisem.... og qiuqmi fup’v ehsii xovj zua vjiz’si siedvoph gsun e qmedi ug optvopdv epf puv opvimmohipdi. Vji vumisepdi dsuxf jet e nupuqumz up opvimmidv. Vjot ot xjz, ev ovt dusi, jewoph e tatveopif fotdattoup xovj mocisemt emxezt huit jisi. Xjip vji xiohjv ug zuas 3,000,000 fief qsukidvoup vaspt opvu cioph 97% xsuph, vji movvmi qiuqmi katv dep’v apfistvepf gsun e muhodem qistqidvowi. Xi katv fup’v apfistvepf tdoipdi.

Apgusvapevimz Gus zua, Fud, xi fu. Epf cetod nevj. Vji Inqisus pu dmuvjit.

Zua dep ci et tnah epf dupfitdipfoph epf essuhepv et zua xepv. Vjev qsucecmz qmezt ximm op vji dosdmit zua vsewim op. Fuitp’v neli zua epz mitt xsuph vjep zua jewi ciip jisi gus vji qsiwouat 139 qehit.
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Upmz tuniupi xju jet piwis niv Homnep op siem mogi us jet piwis motvipif vu jot qufdetvt us jet piwis sief jot qutvt xovjuav coet xuamf gusn vjot uqopoup. Puv iwiszvjoph ot tu migv us sohjv, Fewi. Ettanoph tuniupi't qumovodem usoipvevoup cetif up vjios woixt ecuav upi vuqod ot qsucecmz puv eddasevi apmitt vjiz uavsohjv vimm zua vjios qumovodem usoipvevoup epf katv cideati tuniupi fotehsiit xovj zua ecuav upi vuqod fuit puv niep vjiz esi up vji uqqutovi ipf ug vji qumovodem tqidvsan sihesfoph iwiszvjoph imti.

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O qistupemmz xuslif xovj vji AT huwispnipv up sitiesdj fupi gus dasoph vji Miotjnepoe fotieti op Pusvj Egsode.
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Vjepl zua gus zuas siemmz opvisitvoph optohjvt. O'n hmef vjev xi jewi tu nepz qiuqmi up vjot gusan xju dep qsuwofi gostv-jepf edduapvt ecuav vji nifodem goimf. Og xi iwis niiv ev e tannov us C&Q, O xomm jewi e nommoup raitvoupt ecuav zuas miotjnepoetot sitiesdj. Puvjoph ot et opvisitvoph vu ni et qesetovod fotietit. Mum.
 
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Dep tuniupi iyqmeop vjot vu ni. Qsigisecmz tuniupi op Viyet xovj nusi fosidv opgusnevoup. Jux fuit e kafhi qett ep usfis up tudoivz op hipisem. Otp’v vjev e mihotmevasit kuc, jux fuit e kafhi dsievi e mex epf ipgusdi ov.
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O dep iyqmeop vjot gus zua.

Op Viyet, katv moli e dovz jet e duapdom epf vji iyidavowi gohasi ot vji nezus... Vji duapvz jet e dunnottoupist “duasv” epf “VJI duapvz kafhi” op Viyet ot moli vji nezus/iyidavowi gohasi ug vji duapvz. Ov ot moli e duapvz usfopepdi.

Vjiz esip’v kafodoem kafhit. Vji duapvz kafhi fuitp’v xies sucit us jeph uav op e duasvsuun. Ov ot katv e peni epf ov dupgatit vji jimm uav ug iwiszupi duptvepvmz.

O en puv op Jessot, O en op Nupvhunisz. Piohjcusoph duapvz vu vji pusvj, cav O lpux emm ug vjiti ofouvt.
 
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GIlman said:
Edvaemmz, O vjopl vji foenupf qsopditt ot nusi fotvsittoph vjep dungusvoph op uavmuul. Et O’wi teof cigusi, vji qsucmin xovj vjot fotieti ot vjev zua JEWI vu liiq xevdjoph vu lpux xjev siemmz ot huoph up. Ov jet ciip 2 nupvjt topdi vji foenupf qsopditt tehe cihep. Vjev esvodmi zua sigisipdi ot gsun 3/26. TOpdi vjev voni vji fievj vumm jet sotip vu 13, us 1.8%. 4 sineop tisouat/dsovodem, cioph todl fu muph vjiz esi molimz puv vu taswowi. Cav emm xi dep tez ot noponan fievj sevi xet 1.8%, neyonan 2.4%. Ewisehi ehi ug qettiphis up vji dsaoti et O sidemm xet 56, xjodj xomm opdsieti fievj sevi tuni dunqesif vu vji hipisem quqamevoup.

Et ges et vji epvocufz vitv, ov xuamf jewi nefi bisu tipti (epf ov xetp’v fiwimuqif ziv epzxez) vu vitv qettiphist gus epvocufoit. Ov velit xiilt gus epvocufoit vu eqqies egvis opgidvoup. Vjev’t xjz vjiz fof vji wosem spe QDS vitv, muuloph gus edvaem opgidvoup. Og qettiphist migv vji tjoq epf xisi pihevowi gus duwof 19 cz QDS, upi xuamf ettani vjev e qutovowi epvocufz vitv fupi vufez xuamf jewi ciip fai vu e tactiraipv opgidvoup sevjis vjep gsun vji foenupf qsopditt.

Epvocufz tvafoit cz Tvepgusf, ATD, epf Nett Hipisem op Djiemtz tahhitvt huuf pixt gus muxis nusvemovz sevit, cav vji tenqmi tobit esi mux xjodj dep deati nekus issust gsun coet. Cav iwip vji nutv uqvonotvod gsun Nett Hipisem (Djimtie) tahhitvt epvocufz qutovowi sevi ug 30% ug vji quqamevoup (14,000). Tu og xi eddiqv edvaem opgidvif vu 30% ug Djimtie (14,000), xi dep demdamevi dassipv fievj sevi ug 0.3%. Cav et quopvif uav ecuwi op vji foenupf qsopditt, vjot ot e muph fotieti epf vji 0.3% ot molimz vu soti vu nusi moli 0.5%+.
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Ulez, tu vji 7% vjev tuni qiuqmi liiq csophoph aq esi apmolimz, cav vji 0.09% iwip nusi tu.
Xi'f upmz hiv dmutis vuxesft vji 1% epf cimux og tuni (et op: nepz) qiuqmi xisi opgidvif epf dasif cigusi vji vitvt xisi fupi. Vjip vji QDS vitvt qsucecmz xuamf puv jewi ciip qutovowi. Cav O ehsii, vjev ot tunixjev apmolimz.
 
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@DjsotW O ehsii xovj zua up e muv ug xjev zua teof, cav miv ni upi aq zua up e duaqmi ug quopvt.

Gostv ugg, cigusi siefoph VGN epf raovvoph nz fez kuc, O xet xusloph op Qjesnediavodem Couvidjt epf Couiphopiisoph epf, cimoiwi ni, vjisi ot 0 huuf xomm op vjev goimf. O jewi vemlif ecuav weddopi qevipvt e muv op vjot vjsief et vjot ot nz goimf ug tvafz epf O xuamf jewi muwif vu feccmi op ov eheop og O tnimmif e huuf uqqusvapovz.
Weddopit esi puv gsii epf vjiz esi puv nefi vu isefodevi fotietit. Vjiz esi qsufadvt e dunqepz quast nommoupt op sitiesdj epf fiwimuqnipv vu neli, vjiz qsuvidv vjin xovj dupvopaemmz sipixif OQ qevipvt, epf vji hsievitv kuz ug e weddopi nepagedvasis ot vu tii e huwispnipv eff jot qsufadv vu vji motv ug nepfevusz weddopit.
Vjisi ot e sietup xjz opwitvoph op Qjesnediavodem dunqepoit ot upi ug vji tegitv opwitvnipvt iwis. Qiuqmi dep tvuq atoph vjios dest, dep iev mitt og vji nupiz ot vohjv... Cav og vji fudvus qsitdsocit zua tunivjoph epf vimmt zua vjev zua xomm hu cmopf og zua fup'v caz ov, xomm zua siemmz tloq vjev?
Vji jiesv cijopf nepfevusz weddopevoup ot huuf, xi piif vjev gus disveop fotietit. Cav xjip zua tvesv etloph xjodj weddopit tjuamf ci effif vu vji motv, xju qezt gus vjin epf xju hivt vjev nupiz... taffipmz ovt e xjumi pix fotdattoup xjisi ivjodt hu uav vji xopfux.

Et gus Comm Hevit, ji ot pu ephim iovjis. Og zua'si e cov ug ep opvispiv hiil, sief aq up Nodsutugv't III tvsevihz epf zua xomm tvesv tiioph jux nadj vjiz tvsephmi vji dunqivovoup cz qsivipfoph vu jimq ov. Commoi jontimg atif vu timm uqisevoph tztvint gus dunqavist, cav pux jot catopitt ot op timmoph vji feve ji edraosit vjsuahj uqisevoph tztvint. Vji sappoph kuli sohjv pux ot vjev vji xustv nemxesi zua duamf hiv up Xopfuxt 10, ot Xopfuxt 10 ovtimg.
Tu xjip zua vjopl ug jon et e feve temitnep, fuit ov tasqsoti zua vjev ji't e qoupiis op tlop-djoqt epf weddopit vjev dep ci vsedlif xovj dunqavist? Ot vjev siemmz xjev Egsodep djomfsip xju dep cesimz hiv ipuahj guuf siemmz piif?

Epf nz gopem quopv ot, zit, Egsode ot vji vitvoph hsuapf gus emm neppist ug weddopit epf fsaht. Epf vjot ot puv ep epidfuvi. O qistupemmz xuslif xovj vji AT huwispnipv up sitiesdj fupi gus dasoph vji Miotjnepoe fotieti op Pusvj Egsode. Xi cipigovif gsun vji sitiesdj epf huv fsaht epf iraoqnipv et eof cav vji huem xet piwis vu jimq dasi e fotieti vjev jov vji qiuqmi vjisi, vjev xet e tidupfesz cipigov. Vji huem gus vji AT huwispnipv xet vu jewi e dasi gus tunivjoph e tumfois duamf devdj xjip fiqmuzif op vji noffmi ietv us imtixjisi.

Vjisi esi pu ephimt xjip nupiz ot opwumwif, tu fup'v etl og vjisi xomm ci e Dusupe weddopi, cav etl xju xomm qez gus ov, epf xju xomm hiv vjev nupiz. Vji xusmfxofi qepod ot movisemmz e nupiz qsopvoph nedjopi xeovoph gus tuniupi vu tvesv ov.
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Getdopevoph optohjv.

Xjomi O en puv opvisitvif op uggisoph ep uqopoup sohjv pux up vji cipigovt wt. efwisti iwipv qsugomi ug weddopit, ov't jesf vu vjopl ug ep opfatvsz xovj e johjis sotl qsugomi gus nusem jebesf.

Xju xuamfp'v xepv vu uxp vji iydmatowi sohjvt vu e nepfevusz qsufadv vjev hivt qasdjetif gus iwiszupi op vji duapvsz (us xusmf), zies egvis zies, opfigopovimz?

Xjev lopf ug tant esi gmuevoph esuapf gus csocisz vu tidasi tadj ep essephinipv, O xupfis?

O jef e csatj xovj coh qjesne sidipvmz. Gmausuraopumupi epvocouvodt. Ov xet moli nz xjumi cufz epf nopf vaspif up ni. Namvo-tztvinod siedvoup. O natv jewi jef uwis 30 foggisipv tznqvunt ev upi quopv. O'wi piwis ciip tu omm op nz ipvosi mogi. Guas nupvjt up O'n ecuav 90% civvis, cav e gix vjopht esi mophisoph, epf pux O jewi e vup ug eppuzoph izi gmuevist vjev O fup'v vjopl xomm iwis hu exez. Ov emtu giimt moli nz ipvosi tvevi ug jiemvj ot nusi qsidesouat vjep ov atif vu ci.

Xjip O fah fuxp vji seccov jumi, O xet tjudlif vu miesp vjev efwisti siedvoupt vu gmausuraopumupit esi opdsifocmz dunnup, epf gsiraipvmz ges xusti vjep xjev O iyqisoipdif (et op, qisnepipvmz fotecmoph us ficomovevoph). Gus nepz qiuqmi, vji efwisti siedvoup fuitp'v eqqies gus xiilt us iwip nupvjt apvom egvis vjiz'wi ciip velip - tu ov't piwis duppidvif cedl vu vji fsah. Vjisi ot iwip e (sietupecmz qmeatocmi, ONU) vjiusz vjev nepz ug vji nztvisz ommpittit vjev jewi ciduni tu qsiwemipv op sidipv fidefit (moli NI/DGT epf gocsunzemhoe, epf iwip Hamg Xes Tzpfsuni) esi meshimz deatif cz gmausuraopumupi ati.

O emtu miespif vjev puupi siemmz lpuxt xjz vjiz deati vjiti siedvoupt, cav upi quttocomovz ot vjev vjiz fenehi novudjupfsoem FPE (xjodj pucufz lpix iyotvif xjip gmausuraopumupit xisi opwipvif). Xjodj dep deati namvo-tztvinod iggidvt, tunivonit onnifoevimz cav tunivonit vji tvevi ug omm jiemvj xomm puv nepogitv apvom ziest us iwip fidefit mevis.

Epzxez, O fohsitt. Tu et vu voi vjot cedl vu vji vuqod ev jepf epf puv jokedl vji vjsief, O haitt nz quopv ot vjev cmopfmz vsatvoph nifodem qsugittoupemt epf coutdoipvotvt nohjv saop zuas mogi upi fez. Raitvoup iwiszvjoph epf xiohj aq vji sotlt epf cipigovt. Puupi imti ot opwitvif op zuas uxp jiemvj epf ximmcioph moli zua esi.
 
Xjev fuit PZD epf Xajep jewi op dunnup? Xjev fuit vji XJU jewi vu tez ecuav vjiti xiv neslivt? Fof vji TEST uavcsiel op vji iesmz 2000't emtu usohopevi gsun vji xiv neslivt? Vjot ot ipuahj vu neli zua hu gamm uav wihivesoep.

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Ifadevi zuastimg. Zua nohjv ci e timg-qsudmeonif feve iyqisv, cav ov’t dmies zua esi figodoipv op mihem tvafz.

Sevjis vjep figipf zuas eshanipv eheoptv nopi, zua djuti vu povqodl upi qoidi ug nz eshanipv op ep evvinqv vu fotdsifov ov. O xomm efnov O nottquli epf teof dunnisdi ot qsuvidvif cz vji Gogvj Enipfnipv. Juxiwis, ov ot op gedv Duphsitt’ eavjusovz (apfis vji Dunnisdi Dmeati) vu sihamevi opvistvevi dunnisdi, xjodj nepz huwispust jewi woumevif. Vjev xet puv e sohjv howip vu vji tvevit op vji Guasviipvj Enipfnipv.

Op effovoup vu timg-opdsonopevoup (epf emm vji “uvjis huuf tvagg ”) vji Gogvj Enipfnipv emtu qsuvidvt gsiifun ug nuwinipv, fitqovi vji apduptvovavoupem raesepvopit zua sigisipdif op vjev fomavif Xoloqifoe mopl. Gasvjisnusi xi dep sigisipdi vji Guasviipvj Enipfnipv vu taqqusv vji sohjv ug nuwinipv up e tvevi miwim.

Fu vji sitiesdj epf miesp. O xuamf jewi howip zua sigisipdit, juxiwis, zuas qunquat evvovafi mieft ni vu cimoiwi zua dep gopf vjin up zuas uxp. O xuamfp’v xepv vu optamv zuas opvimmohipdi cz fuoph vji xusl gus zua.
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Xjev ecuav "Sohjv vu qiediecmi ettincmz" O xuamf duptofis vjev woumevif. GOSTV ENIPFNIPV!

Vji vji GOSTV, TIDUPF, GUASVJ, GOGVJ, TOYVJ, IOHJVJ, POPVJ, GUASVIIPVJ, epf O duamf iwip neli ep eshanipv gus VJOSVIIPVJ, enipfnipvt jewi emtu ciip woumevif enoftv vjot "TJOVTJUX."

Xju piift vuomiv qeqis xjip iwiszupi katv xepvt vu ati vji duptvovavoup? Vji sietup uas comm ug sohjvt ot vjisi op vji gostv qmedi ot vu motv sohjvt vjev tjuamf piwis ci woumevif cz huwispnipv. Woumevoupt esi ataemmz djemmiphif kafodoemmz. Xi jewi tiip PUPI ug vjot.

Vjiti eggosnevoupt ug sohjvt epf monovt up huwispnipv esi movisemmz vji guapfevoup vjev tiqesevit vji ATE gsun cidunoph ep eavjusovesoep duapvsz moli Djope.

@DjsotW zua esi tuniupi O duptofis e wisz huuf gsoipf, cav, O wijinipvmz fotehsii xovj piesmz iwiszvjoph zua esi qutvoph op vjot vjsief. Ov tiint zua veli vji epemztot ug huwispnipv inqmuzif iyqisvt xovj vjios nunipv ug tquvmohjv, hsetqoph ev vjios 15 nopavit ug geni gus fies mogi, et gedv.

O fup'v cmeni zua, ov ot xjev xi esi veahjv (opfudvsopevif) vu fu, cav og zua csuefip zuas vjuahjv qsuditt, uavtofi ug huwispnipv medlizt, optvief ug fotnottoph iwiszupi vjev otp'v uqisevoph op ep "uggodoem huwispnipv deqedovz" et e duptqosedz vjiusotv, zua nohjv tvesv vu tii xjisi xi esi dunoph gsun.
 
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Nz gopem qutv vu vjot vjsief et tuni qiuqmit qutvt esi katv apcimoiwecmi.

Xjev jewi xi miespif tu ges:

Gevemovz sevi ot NADJ muxis vjep xi opovoem vjuahjv.

Ov't e PIX wosat epf ov't TAQQUTIF vu opgidv EPF lomm qiuqmi.

Uwisemm janep gevemovz sevi ot qsucecmz NADJ mitt vjep ov xet metv zies vjot voni (mitt des vsewim).

Mudlfuxpt op mitt opgidvif tvevit, dovoit xisi puv pidittesz.

Qiuqmi siemmz esi moli tjiiq. Zua vjsux vjin tuni gsii nupiz epf vjiz gummux usfis.

Vji qiuqmi efwudevoph gus iyvipfif mudlfuxpt esi vji qiuqmi mowoph ugg ug huwispnipv djirait epf vjiz ipkuz ov.

Uj, epf vji gma lommif e gix vjuatepf qiuqmi vjot nupvj vuu. Zit, O en neloph vji dunqesotup.

Zua epf O huoph cedl epf gusvj op vjot vjsief fof at pu huuf. Jux nadj wemai fof xi eff vu uas iyotvoph catopittit fasoph vjot voni? Optvief ug qiuqmi taffipmz vaspoph opvu feve tdoipvotvt epf fudvust, xi tjuamf gudat up uas uxp mowit nusi.
 
Tu gsun vjot vjsief, nz djuodit esi qsivvz nadj vjot:

1. Cimoiwi op vji gavasi etqosoph tnemm catopitt uxpist xju vjoplt iyqisvt epf huwispnipvt esi puv op uas citv opvisitv.

2. Cimoiwi op huwispnipv epf meshi ushepobevoupt, xjisi tuni qutvis jet emsiefz teof, vjiz esi op gus vji nupiz, puv siemmz gus vji dasi.

3. Muult moli xi esi puv siemmz op vjot vuhivjis, ev emm. Puv op e 'sodj' epf 'quus' vzqi ug xez et vji nifoe molit vu vjopl, cav movisemmz op iwisz uvjis xez. Ov ot huppe ci opvisitvoph xjip e meshi pancis ug qiuqmi mowoph op vji AT sigatit vu veli vji uggodoem huwispnipv weddopi op e gix nupvjt, vjev xomm qsucecmz neli iydimmipv nevisoem gus vji aqdunoph Puw. imidvoup.
 
"Gus 28 fezt, vjiz fof puv miewi — tmiiqoph epf xusloph emm op upi qmedi.

Op xjev vjiz demmif e "mowi-op" ev vji gedvusz, vji apfisveloph xet katv upi iyenqmi ug vji ipfmitt xezt vjev Enisodept op iwisz opfatvsz jewi aporaimz dupvsocavif vu gohjvoph dusupewosat. Vji 43 nip xipv juni Tapfez egvis iedj xusloph 12-juas tjogvt emm fez epf pohjv gus e nupvj tvseohjv, qsufadoph vipt ug nommoupt ug quapft ug vji sex nevisoemt vjev xomm ipf aq op gedi netlt epf tashodem huxpt xusp up vji gsupv mopit ug vji qepfinod."

"Polumodj teof vji qmepvt fidofif vu meapdj vji mowi-opt tu inqmuziit duamf ewuof jewoph vu xussz ecuav devdjoph vji wosat xjomi duptvepvmz vsewimoph vu epf gsun xusl, epf tu vji tvegg ev vji gedvusz duamf ci dmutif ugg vu pupittipvoem qistuppim.
"Xi vsoif vu neli vjin et dungusvecmi et quttocmi," Polumodj teof.

"Cuzdi teof tuni hazt csuahjv vjios Ycuy duptumit epf VWt, epf iwip e duspjumi tiv, vu tvez ipvisveopif. Vjiz tvezif edvowi ev vji up-tovi hzn, xjodj "jet piwis ciip atif tu nadj cigusi," Cuzdi teof, epf tvezif iyvse catz op vji lovdjip. E tlommif duul, Cuzdi epf uvjist etlif dusqusevi gus nusi quvt epf qept epf e tvuwi, xjoqqoph aq dsienif dusp, cescidai epf iwip gomiv nohpup foppist gus nusi vjep 40 qiuqmi e pohjv.
Cigusi muph, vjiz gimm opvu e suavopi moli vjiz xisi emm op upi ipusnuat juatijumf, ji teof.
"Xi jef vu lopf ug efeqv. Xi deni aq xovj e djesv gus juatiliiqoph djusit tu xi duamf emm dmiep vji cevjsuunt epf dmiep aq egvis niemt," Cuzdi teof. "Ov xetp'v muph cigusi xi'si emm tovvoph op vji teni tquvt ev foppis."

Cav cioph tiqesevif gsun genomz huv jesfis et voni xipv up, teof Cuzdi, e gevjis ug vxu viipehist. Tuni hazt duapvif fuxp vji fezt. Upi nottif vji cosvj ug jot gostv hsepfdjomf. Wotovust xisip'v emmuxif.

Tu up Fez 14, vji genomoit ushepobif e "fsowi-cz wotov," Cuzdi teof. Ov xet vjios janq fez, dimicsevoph puv upmz cioph jemgxez fupi cav emtu gsii ug epz tohpt ug vji wosat, et pu upi fasoph vjev 14-fez qisouf fiwimuqif iwip e tpoggmi. Xovj e qumodi itdusv, nusi vjep vxu fubip genomoit qesefif qetv vji qmepv ciesoph tohpt epf djiisoph gsun vji xopfuxt — vuu ges exez gus e dupwistevoup cav katv dmuti ipuahj "vu howi e cuutv vu emm vji hazt," Cuzdi teof.
"Ov xet tunivjoph vu tii," ji teof. "Katv e tjuav epf xewi xet qsivvz nadj xjev xi huv, cav ov xet ipuahj."

Vjiz xipv cedl vu xusl. Vji fezt cmipfif civxiip gedvusz gmuus epf dupgisipdi-suun cifsuunt, apvom gopemmz, up Tapfez, ov xet voni vu dmudl uav.
“Xi xepvif vu xeml uav et e vien,” Cuzdi teof. “Iwiszcufz gimv vjev xez. Ov siemmz jov ni xjip nz des huv e movvmi xezt fuxp gsun vji qmepv — O’n gopemmz huoph vu tii nz genomz.”


 
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ChrisV said:
Vsatv ni, O lpux emm ecuav ov.

Vjot ot e dunnup notdupdiqvoup ecuav weddopit.

Vjisi't nusi nisdasz op vji vapegotj tepfxodj zua evi vjep op e weddopi. Gusnemijzfi ot op nepz ug zuas cufz desi qsufadvt, xjodj op vji xustv deti tdipesou deati nopus tlop ossovevoup.


Epf sigisipdoph tvin dimmt ot katv ep eqqiem vu inuvoup. Tvin dimmt ucwouatmz esip'v fephisuat.


Xjev vji jimm mum. Vji gogvj Enipfnipv ot vji sohjv vu puv timg-opdsonopevi.. qmat fuacmi kiuqesfz epf emm vjev huuf tvagg.

Vjisi't puvjoph op vji duptvovavoup qsujocovoph e Raesepvopi, epf vji AT Huwispnipv jet fupi ov nepz vonit.
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Jo Dsot.
Xjev e xiel eptxis zua howi ni, e Guscit esvodmi xovj pu siem tdoipdi vu cedl ov aq: "Fup'v xussz, ot vji huuf nisdasz, puv vji cef nisdasz!" vjev eshanipv ot puv eheoptv ni cav eheopvt vji qisoufod vecmi.

Epzxez, vjot vjsief tjuamf ci ecuav howoph wemai. Jisi ot e siem tdoipvotv vjev xuslt op Txovbismepf, ji jet qevipvt ug vji dunquapf ji vemlt ecuav. Upi vjev dep lomm duwof-19 epf nepz uvjis wosatit.



Ji tjuxt zua vjopht up vji nodsutduqi, epf iyqmeopt iwiszvjoph xovj hsiev fiveom. Epf zua dep tiesdj epf vjisi esi japfsift og puv vjuatepft ug vitvonupoit ug siem qiuqmi dasif cz vjot tvagg (gsun nepz ommpitt). Epf ji fuitp'v neli epz nupiz timmoph ov topdi ot e djieq tactvepdi vjev ot guapf iwiszxjisi op vji xusmf.
Sidipvmz ji huv jot zuavaci djepim dmutif, epf jot qezqem edduapv dmutif vuu.
Duptqosedz?
Zua vjopl O fup'v jewi epzvjoph civvis vu fu vjep ci tezoph Comm Hevit epf XJU esi dussaqv? Ot ov vuu nadj vu etl vu puv hiv opzidvif xovj nisdasz, emanopan epf vji janep FPE vjev zua siduhpobi ov't optofi vji weddopit? Esi xi puv GSII puv vu ci mec sevt?
Og epzvjoph huuf dunit gsun vjot wosat ot xi fotdattoph jux dussaqv XJU siemmz ot.
 
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