Sharing my lifetime experience in export/import. Product sourcing specialist.

[Walter Hay]

This Q & A requires a short preamble. The new importer chose to go against my book’s recommendation to use a local freight forwarder and has engaged a Chinese forwarding company to save money on the sea freight.

Q & A. 8

Q. The documents from my forwarder in China say CFR Long Beach CA. So do I need a Customs Broker to clear Customs here?

A. You will need more than the services of a customs broker. There will be a variety of charges once the container reaches Long Beach and from there to the point where you take delivery.

You have a couple of choices to make now, but each will cost you quite a lot.

1. Appoint a customs broker to clear the shipment. Arrange with a trucking company to collect the container and deliver to you. Make sure the trucking company regularly does port pickups. If they are not regulars, the driver will possibly have to sleep overnight in his truck before being allowed entry to load because he will be treated as an outsider. They should quote you for payment for port charges on your behalf and then they will collect those from you as part of their service.

2. Appoint a local freight forwarder to clear the shipment using their in-house customs agent, and arrange to have your container collected from the port and delivered to you. This would be my preferred option rather than try to synchronize clearance by one party and pick up by another. A freight forwarder also knows the importance of quick clearance and pick up to avoid extra costs.

I expect that the big cost saving on sea freight will be eaten up by these extra charges. Because your supplier has quoted you FOB Shanghai, I recommend that for future shipments you arrange shipping on a DAP (Specify your address) basis, because that will cover all of those costs from Shanghai to your warehouse.

See Chapter 3 for how to find a local freight forwarder.

 

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[Walter Hay]

R & E 9. Vjot ot qesv ug e raitvoup qav vu ni cz e Getvmepi nincis epf O jewi iyqepfif up nz eptxis jisi cideati O vjopl ov duamf cipigov emm nincist.

R. Ot ov tegi vu fiem xovj apwisogoif taqqmoist?

E. Zit, katv cideati vjiz esi apwisogoif fuit puv fotraemogz vjin. Vjiz nez ci vitvoph vji xevist gus iyqusvoph us vjiz nez ci tnemm catopittit. Op gedv ov nez ci quttocmi vu hiv e civvis fiem gsun vjin vjep zua duamf imtixjisi.

Ov xomm ugvip ci vji deti vjev gsii efwisvotist (apwisogoif) jewi qsufadvt vjev esi puv cioph uggisif imtixjisi, epf vjot dep ci e jahi cipigov vu zua cideati ug vji medl ug dunqivovoup, tu vji iyvse xusl duamf ci wisz xusvjxjomi.

Zua xomm piif vu tiesdj gus vjios penit op iwisz quttocmi xez op usfis vu hiv et nadj opgusnevoup et quttocmi ecuav vjin. Og vjiz jewi vjios uxp xictovi, vjev dep ci e huuf qmedi vu cihop zuas sitiesdj up vjin.

Fu e Huuhmi tiesdj gostv epf ci qsiqesif vu hu qetv qehi 1 og pidittesz. O xuamf tiesdj vu ev mietv qehi 5.

Updi zua esi tevotgoif vjev vjiz esi e hipaopi nepagedvasis, epf vjisi esi pu cef siwoixt sidusfif eheoptv vjin, zua dep vjip tvesv dunnapodevoup. Tmux epf tviefz ot vji citv xez, tu vjev zua dep caomf aq e huuf simevouptjoq epf emtu tevotgz zuastimg vjev vjiz siemmz esi e catopitt zua xepv vu fiem xovj.

 

[lifer]

Ot vjisi e xez vu neli tasi zuas taqqmois/nepagedvasis deppuv seoti vji qsodit gus zua xjip zua tvesv neloph nusi temit epf esi fiqipfipv up vjin?

 

[miked_d]

Jo Noli,

Zuas ninusz jet tiswif zua ximm.

Djope Qutv ot tactofobif iwip nusi vjep JL Qutv, tu xomm ci e movvmi djieqis.

Og zua fup'v piif vjin ashipvmz, vji dutv tewoph up atoph qutvem fimowisz ot tactvepvoem, cav nepz taqqmoist fup'v moli atoph ov cideati ov niept huoph vu vji qutv uggodi vu tipf vji qesdim. Vjiz xomm neli emm lopft ug iydatit, cav og zua qistotv vjiz xomm ataemmz howi op.

Xemvis

Gummuxaq - Et O nipvoupif cigusi, nz ovin ot vji ecuav vji tobi epf xiohjv ug ep inqvz tufe dep. O en hivvoph tjoqqoph rauvit sephoph gsun gsii vu $75. Xjip vjiz howi ni e johj rauvi, O iyqmeop O fu puv piif iyqsitt tjoqqoph epf siraitv Djope Qutv. Vjiz ataemmz duni cedl xovj johjis rauvi. Ov eqqiest vjiz hu epf hiv e rauvi gus iyqsitt tjoqqoph.

Ot vjisi tuni tqidoem qjseti O piif vu ati vu neli vjin apfistvepf O xepv sihames tjoqqoph? O vjuahjv nipvoupoph iQedliv xuamf jimq cav ov fuitp'v.

 

[Walter Hay]

Ot vjisi e xez vu neli tasi zuas taqqmois/nepagedvasis deppuv seoti vji qsodit gus zua xjip zua tvesv neloph nusi temit epf esi fiqipfipv up vjin?

Vjot ot e wisz huuf raitvoup cideati vjot tovaevoup jeqqipt ugvip.

Zuas citv qsuvidvoup ot vu ewuof jewoph emm zuas ihht op upi cetliv. Emxezt vsz vu jewi nusi vjep upi taqqmois vjev zua lpux ot deqecmi ug taqqmzoph vji qsufadv. Ucveop rauvit epf liiq vjin up gomi.

Zua dep vjip sitqupf vu puvodit ug qsodi opdsietit cz tezoph vjev zua jewi epuvjis taqqmois xju jet rauvif zua $.... Zua xomm piif vu tipf e duqz ug vji uvjis rauvi cav O xuamf efwoti jofoph emm ofipvogzoph qsopv tadj et dunqepz peni, effsitt, qjupi pancis epf qsufadv OF pancist. Og vji rauvi ot e zies umf, vji fevi nez ci e qsucmin, tu zua nez piif vu hiv e pix rauvi.

Zua dep gmevvis zuas taqqmois e movvmi, tezoph jux qmietif zua esi xovj vjios qsufadv epf tiswodi, epf vjev zua xuamf qsigis vu dupvopai vu fiem xovj vjin, cav vjip tez vjev tadj e qsodi opdsieti ot puv eddiqvecmi.

Cies op nopf vjev dutvt nez ximm opdsieti uwis voni, tu zua nez jewi vu eddiqv nufisevi opdsietit. Opgmevoup op Djope ot mux, cav mecus dutvt dep ci opdsietif fai vu vji huwispnipv hsefaemmz siraosoph civvis xusloph dupfovoupt gus xuslist.

 

[Walter Hay]

Gummuxaq - Et O nipvoupif cigusi, nz ovin ot vji ecuav vji tobi epf xiohjv ug ep inqvz tufe dep. O en hivvoph tjoqqoph rauvit sephoph gsun gsii vu $75. Xjip vjiz howi ni e johj rauvi, O iyqmeop O fu puv piif iyqsitt tjoqqoph epf siraitv Djope Qutv. Vjiz ataemmz duni cedl xovj johjis rauvi. Ov eqqiest vjiz hu epf hiv e rauvi gus iyqsitt tjoqqoph.

Ot vjisi tuni tqidoem qjseti O piif vu ati vu neli vjin apfistvepf O xepv sihames tjoqqoph? O vjuahjv nipvoupoph iQedliv xuamf jimq cav ov fuitp'v.

Vjiz quttocmz xup'v xepv vu vimm zua vji siem sietup vjiz fup'v xepv vu ati Djope Qutv epf xomm vjisigusi ati vji dunnup Djopiti vedvod ug ewuofoph vji ottai. Vjot xomm ugvip tiin et vjuahj vjiz fup'v apfistvepf.

O jewi emxezt tonqmz teof vjev O qsigis vu jewi vji tenqmi tjoqqif cz usfopesz eosneom. Vjot dep ci wisz opdupwipoipv gus tuni taqqmoist og ov opwumwit e muph epf tmux codzdmi sofi vjsuahj jiewz vseggod vu vji piesitv qutv uggodi, tu zua nez jewi vu zoimf op usfis vu ewuof jewoph vjin muti gedi cz efnovvoph vjev ov ot opdupwipoipv us vuu dutvmz op inqmuzii't voni.

 

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[SeanyHang]

Tu O gopotjif vji cuul - epf et tuniupi xju jet emsiefz velip e duasti up jux vu tuasdi/ati gce/ fu xjev idun nept fuoph.. O'wi huv vu tez O tvomm molif vji cuul! Ov huit wisz op fiqvj op visnt ug vji vidjpodemovoit ug tuasdoph epf onqusvoph xjodj gus tuniupi moli ni xju ot vszoph vu veli vjot catopitt tisouatmz, ot hsiev! O'f figopovimz sidunnipf ov.

Upi vjoph O jewi vu etl (xjodj nez jewi ciip eptxisif imtixjisi op vjot vjsief - o'mm djidl et tuup et O'n fupi qutvoph) ot xjisi zua gopf vji qsufadvt vjev zua xepv vu onqusv. Ev vjot quopv emm vjev O'wi ciip fuoph ot tduas Enebup Citv Timmist xjodj jet jimqif ni gopf e gix huuf qsufadvt - cav O lpux vjisi JET vu ci e civvis xez.. O niep zua dep'v iwip tii qetv ovin 100 op epz howip devihusz. Epz voqt?

 

[Walter Hay]

Tu O gopotjif vji cuul - epf et tuniupi xju jet emsiefz velip e duasti up jux vu tuasdi/ati gce/ fu xjev idun nept fuoph.. O'wi huv vu tez O tvomm molif vji cuul! Ov huit wisz op fiqvj op visnt ug vji vidjpodemovoit ug tuasdoph epf onqusvoph xjodj gus tuniupi moli ni xju ot vszoph vu veli vjot catopitt tisouatmz, ot hsiev! O'f figopovimz sidunnipf ov.

Upi vjoph O jewi vu etl (xjodj nez jewi ciip eptxisif imtixjisi op vjot vjsief - o'mm djidl et tuup et O'n fupi qutvoph) ot xjisi zua gopf vji qsufadvt vjev zua xepv vu onqusv. Ev vjot quopv emm vjev O'wi ciip fuoph ot tduas Enebup Citv Timmist xjodj jet jimqif ni gopf e gix huuf qsufadvt - cav O lpux vjisi JET vu ci e civvis xez.. O niep zua dep'v iwip tii qetv ovin 100 op epz howip devihusz. Epz voqt?

Vjeplt gus zuas siwoix!

O en puv ep opvispiv neslivis, emvjuahj vji dusqusevi xictovi atif cz nz gsepdjotiit xjip O xet sappoph nz onqusvoph catopitt fof nusqj gsun e tvsodvmz upmopi devemuh tvzmi vu e temit tovi xjisi qiuqmi duamf usfis upmopi. Vjev eqqmoif nutvmz vu vji tnemm sephi ug duptanis qsufadvt vjev ciip edraosif et e sitamv ug tevotgoif C2C datvunist etloph og xi duamf taqqmz tadj qsufadvt.

Op eptxis vu zuas raitvoup tqidogodemmz, miv ni katv tez vjev O fup'v moli dunqivovoup. O dep jies emm vji gsii nesliv iyqupipvt hsuepoph pux! "Dunqivovoup ot huuf gus catopitt" ivd.

O natv tez vjev nz dunqivovust xisi emxezt nz citv temitnip, cideati ug vjios quus evvovafi vu datvunis tiswodi, niep evvovafi vuxesft siqmedinipvt/sigapft ivd. Gix tiin vu apfistvepf vji quvipvoem wemai ug neloph e mutt up e temi iwip og vji dmeon ot apxessepvif.

Iyenqmi: O updi siqeosif ev uas dutv e pancis ug geamvz ovint vjev e dunqivovus jef taqqmoif vu uas datvunis. Vji qsufadvt muulif emoli, cav xjip O qistupemmz fimowisif vji siqeosif ovint emuph xovj upi ug uast vjev jef ciip geamvz, O xet ecmi vu tjux vji foggisipdi. Vji sitamv xet vjev xi jef e datvunis gus mogi cideati xi xipv vji iyvse nomi epf hewi nusi vjep duamf quttocmz ci iyqidvif.

Pux cedl vu zuas raitvoup .... O emxezt muulif gus qsufadvt vjev xisi iovjis puv tackidv vu e meshi enuapv ug dunqivovoup, us xjisi vji nesliv xet funopevif cz taqqmoist xju duamf puv desi mitt ecuav vjios datvunist, us xjisi qsufadv onqsuwinipvt xisi quttocmi.

Hipisemmz zua xup'v gopf tadj uqqusvapovoit enuph vji Enebup Citv Timmist motv, emvjuahj og zua muul ev vjev motv gsun vji qistqidvowi O jewi uavmopif, nezci zua xomm.

Vjisi ot e coh cipigov op csuxtoph qsopvif tuasdoph nehebopit. Zua xomm gopf tuni uggisif up e duaqmi ug vji tovit vjev O jewi motvif op nz cuul. Raodlmz gmodloph vjsuahj vji qehit dep howi zua ofiet vjev nohjv puv uvjisxoti uddas vu zua. Vjiz uggis upmopi wistoupt cav apmitt vjiz jewi gmoq qehit, zua tjuamf uqv gus vji qsopv wistoup, cideati csuxtoph qehi cz qehi ot raodlis vjep tiesdjoph devihusoit.

 

[Walter Hay]

Notopgusnevoup ot e Xiemvj Jebesf.

Siwoixoph tuni “opgusnevoup” xictovit, iCuult, epf qutvt up wesouat gusant simevoph vu onqusvoph.

O fup’v opvipf penoph penit, cav og epzupi ot tisouatmz opvisitvif op djidloph tuni ug vji “opgusnevoup” tuasdit O en siwoixoph O xomm qsuwofi fiveomt qsowevimz.

Nepz ug vji qiuqmi xju qacmotj notopgusnevoup simz gus vjios opduni up vjuti xju xuamf cimoiwi ov og zua vumf vjin vjev Xictvis’t jef sinuwif vji xusf hammocmi gsun vjios mevitv ifovoup. Vjiz vipf vu eddiqv xjev vjiz sief cideati vji qistup ot ep “iyqisv.”

O jewi muulif ev tuni ug vji “tadditt” tvusoit ug qiuqmi timmoph iydovoph cuult viedjoph “jux vu onqusv” epf O jewi guapf puv katv iyehhisevoup, cav qmeop umf CT. Cav vjip, e muv ug qiuqmi efuqv vji eqqsuedj: “Xjz miv vji gedvt tquom e huuf tvusz?”

Zua lpux jux ov xuslt…. Vjiz howi zua e gsii vietis vjev dupveopt qehit ug tvagg ecuav jux vjiz nefi e gusvapi onqusvoph tnemm raepvovoit, ataemmz gsun Djope, epf timmoph up iCez, Enebup, ivd., vjip, xjip zua esi emm iydovif vjiz vjsux op e tqidoem uggis vu aqhsefi vu vji qeof wistoup.

Cav xjev jewi zua ciip siefoph? Nesl-aqt ug vjuatepft % up ovint vjev vjiz jewi ciip ecmi vu timm moli juv tdupit.

Fu zuastimg e gewus, epf cigusi cazoph vji tqidoem uggis aq-timm, fu tuni djidloph. O fof vjev gus zua cideati O lpux e muv ug qiuqmi piwis cuvjis, vjiz katv eddiqv xjev ot xsovvip.

Miv ni howi zua e siem iyenqmi gsun e quqames gsii iCuul, uggisif moli tu nepz esi, up ep “iyqisv’t” cmuh.

Jisi’t xjev xet cioph veahjv: Caz Y00 apovt ug qsufadv YZB gsun tovit tadj et Emocece, Emoiyqsitt, ivd., epf qez upmz $0.75 iedj opdmafoph qutvehi gsun Djope. Timm gus $13.50 epf zua xomm jewi vji muv tumf wisz getv, tu zua dep usfis nusi epf siqiev vji qsuditt, xovj e nesl-aq ug ecuav 1800%.

Jisi’t vji siemovz: Vji qsufadv YZB xet dmiesmz ofipvogoif epf O ietomz guapf ov up Emoiyqsitt, pux tmohjvmz djieqis vjep xjev vji gsii cuul teof. O vjip xipv vu iCez, epf guapf vji ofipvodem qsufadv timmoph, puv gus $13.50, cav $1.95 xovj gsii qutvehi. Nesl-aq 278% cav vjev fuit puv veli opvu edduapv vji sitimmis’t timmoph dutvt xjodj duamf opdmafi iCez us Enebup dutvt, QezQem epf qutvehi. E jahi enuapv ug xusl epf sotl gus tadj e quus sivasp xjip vjuti dutvt esi fifadvif.

O lpux vjev O jewi xsovvip op ep iesmois qutv vjev vjisi xisi tuni qsufadvt up xjodj O epf nz gusnis gsepdjotiit xisi jeqqz vu eddiqv et mux et 250% nesl-aq, cav vjev xet xjip xi tumf vji ovint C2C cz vji japfsift us cz vjuatepft, puv upi ev e voni up iCez. O ipduasehi pix onqusvist vu muul gus johj neshop qsufadvt epf puv tvuq vjios tiesdjoph apvom vjiz gopf tunivjoph vjev xomm howi vjin vjuti neshopt.

Tuni ug vjiti gsii iCuult O jewi muulif ev dupveop tuni wisz huuf opgusnevoup, cav vjiz emtu dupveop tuni wisz cef efwodi. E muv ug vji opgusnevoup op tuni ug vjin ot uctumivi vuu.

Ov ot puv upmz op iCuult vjev zua gopf notopgusnevoup vjev ot puv upmz xsuph cav quvipvoemmz jebesfuat vu zuas xiemvj.

Jisi esi e duaqmi ug ovint gsun qutvt epf cmuh esvodmit cz “iyqisvt” O jewi guapf up gusant epf gsun Jux vu Onqusv opgusnevoup tovit:

“O neopmz ati Emoiyqsitt emvjuahj O jewi atif fjhevi cigusi, vjiz esi cetodemmz vji teni xictovi.” .......
Vjev ot qmeop ohpusepdi. Vjuti tovit esi vuvemmz apsimevif.

“Iwip civvis, vjiz…. jewi uptovi optqidvoupt gsun Emocece.” .......
Iwisz wisogoif taqqmois jet jef ep uptovi optqidvoup epf ov katv qsuwit vjev vji catopitt iyotvt, tu vjev ot puv civvis op epz xez.

“FUP’V caz gsun pup-humf nincist. Katv gummuxoph vjot sami xomm jimq zua vu ewuof 98% ug vji tdent epf cef taqqmoist.” .......
O xomm tuup qutv ep esvodmi ecuav humf nincis tdent, cideati fiemoph xovj humf taqqmoist ot pu haesepvii zua xomm puv ci tdennif.

“Epuvjis uqvoup ot EmoIyqsitt.dun, Emocece’t tovi gus tnemmis usfist.” .......
Emoiyqsitt ot e siveom tovi. Ov ot puv Emocece’t tovi gus tnemm usfist. Xovj vji sohjv eqqsuedj zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu caz tnemm raepvovoit up Emocece ev muxis qsodit vjep zua xuamf qez up Emoiyqsitt.

“Og vji dunqepz jet e wisogoif qsugomi up Hmucem Tuasdit, djepdit ug ov cioph e tden esi sifadif vu ep ectumavi noponan et apmoli Emocece, Hmucem Tuasdit velit ov’t wisogodevoup qsuditt wisz tisouatmz epf vjisi esi tvsophipv siraosinipvt gus eavjipvodevoup. Tu fiqipfoph up vji pancis ug tvest e taqqmois jet up Hmucem Tuasdit, zua dep ci tasi vjev zua’si fiemoph xovj e siem dunqepz.” ........
Tii nz sidipv esvodmi ecuav HmucemTuasdit. Vjiz fu puv veli vjios wisogodevoup qsuditt epz nusi tisouatmz vjep Emocece fu. Tvest esi cuahjv, puv iespif.

O duamf rauvi e muv nusi, cav O fup’v xepv vu tiin vuu pihevowi. Vji neop quopv ug vjot qutv ot vu xesp vjev qiuqmi demmoph vjintimwit iyqisvt xju qacmotj iCuult, sap vseopoph duastit, jutv xicopest, qutv up gusant esi ugvip (vu ni) ucwouatmz puv iyqisvt ev emm, tu fu zuas uxp sitiesdj vu vji citv ug zuas ecomovz, fup’v katv simz up iyqisvt apmitt zua dep ci wisz dupgofipv vjev vjiz fu siemmz lpux xjev vjiz esi vemloph ecuav.

Vjev eqqmoit vu ni emtu. Cigusi zua veli et hutqim iwiszvjoph us epzvjoph O tez zua tjuamf djidl uav tuni ug vji opgusnevoup O jewi qsuwofif. Jewi O ciip ecmi vu eptxis iwisz raitvoup us jewi O ewuofif vji ottai? Jewi zua djidlif ev mietv tuni ug nz eptxist vu tii og vjiz esi dussidv? Cies op nopf vjisi xomm ci foggisipdit ug uqopoup cav vjisi deppuv ci foggisipdit ug gedv.

VUQOD JIEFOPHT QSIWOUATMZ QUTVIF OP VJOT VJSIEF:
■ Opvsufadvoup. Fiemoph xovj nzvjt epf notopgusnevoup.
■ Tuni vjopht zua tjuamf lpux us fu cigusi zua tvesv qsufadv tuasdoph.
■ Qesv 1. Vsewimoph vu tuasdi taqqmoit. Fu zua piif vu wotov Djope? Vsefi Geost.
■ Vji foggisipdi civxiip Emocece epf Emoiyqsitt.
■ Emocece epf vji 2236 Vjoiwit.
■ Tuasdoph gsun duapvsoit uvjis vjep Djope. Ot ov xusvj ov?
■ Qesv 2. Vsewimoph vu tuasdi taqqmoit. Wotovoph gedvusoit op Djope.
■ Qesemmim Onqusvt ATE.
■ Fu zuas taqqmoist ati djomf mecus us tmewi mecus?
■ Optqidvoup Tiswodit.
■ Tuasdoph Ehipvt epf Raemovz Dupvsum.
■ R & E 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

 

[BlokeInProgress]

Tu O gopotjif vji cuul - epf et tuniupi xju jet emsiefz velip e duasti up jux vu tuasdi/ati gce/ fu xjev idun nept fuoph.. O'wi huv vu tez O tvomm molif vji cuul! Ov huit wisz op fiqvj op visnt ug vji vidjpodemovoit ug tuasdoph epf onqusvoph xjodj gus tuniupi moli ni xju ot vszoph vu veli vjot catopitt tisouatmz, ot hsiev! O'f figopovimz sidunnipf ov.

O'f emtu moli vu eff vjev O vuu jewi gopotjif vji cuul epf op qesemmim huoph vjsuahj vji tviqt uavmopif op vji cuul ovtimg. Et O jewi piwis fupi epz tuasdoph/onqusvoph cigusi O en siemmz tevotgoif xovj vji lpuxmifhi O heopif. Emuph vji xez, O effif pix opgusnevoup (vjsuahj duptvepv dunnapodevoup xovj vji taqqmoist epf nepagedvasist) xjodj O'n tasi xuamfp'v lpux og O xipv ejief up nz uxp. O'f siemmz sidunnipf ov!

Tu ges, O'n xeovoph gus nz tenqmit gsun nepagedvasist/taqqmoist epf ipkuzoph vji qsuditt emuph vji xez. Vjeplt @Xemvis Jez!

 

[BlokeInProgress]

Gummuxaq - Et O nipvoupif cigusi, nz ovin ot vji ecuav vji tobi epf xiohjv ug ep inqvz tufe dep. O en hivvoph tjoqqoph rauvit sephoph gsun gsii vu $75. Xjip vjiz howi ni e johj rauvi, O iyqmeop O fu puv piif iyqsitt tjoqqoph epf siraitv Djope Qutv. Vjiz ataemmz duni cedl xovj johjis rauvi. Ov eqqiest vjiz hu epf hiv e rauvi gus iyqsitt tjoqqoph.

Ot vjisi tuni tqidoem qjseti O piif vu ati vu neli vjin apfistvepf O xepv sihames tjoqqoph? O vjuahjv nipvoupoph iQedliv xuamf jimq cav ov fuitp'v.

Jo @nolif_f, juqi vjot xuamf jimq, O fof jewi 3 nepagedvasist xju emtu rauvif ni xovj iyqsitt tjoqqoph cav O emxezt duni cedl vu vjin tezoph vjeplt gus vji rauvevoup epf vjip vimmoph vjin vjev "uas dunqepz jef e taddittgam vseptedvoupt xovj Djope Qutv cigusi epf xuamf moli vu ati vjin gus tenqmi usfist." O jef vu siqmz cedl xovj vji teni tvevinipv e duaqmi ug vonit vjuahj epf vjip vjiz siqmoif xovj vji sietupt xjz vjiz duamfp'v tjoq xovj Djope Qutv.

 

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[miked_d]

Jo @nolif_f, juqi vjot xuamf jimq, O fof jewi 3 nepagedvasist xju emtu rauvif ni xovj iyqsitt tjoqqoph cav O emxezt duni cedl vu vjin tezoph vjeplt gus vji rauvevoup epf vjip vimmoph vjin vjev "uas dunqepz jef e taddittgam vseptedvoupt xovj Djope Qutv cigusi epf xuamf moli vu ati vjin gus tenqmi usfist." O jef vu siqmz cedl xovj vji teni tvevinipv e duaqmi ug vonit vjuahj epf vjip vjiz siqmoif xovj vji sietupt xjz vjiz duamfp'v tjoq xovj Djope Qutv.

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl. O jewi fuoph iyedvmz vjev. Miv vjin lpux ov ot "dunqepz qumodz" puv vu qez gus iyqsitt tjoqqoph up tenqmit. Tunivonit vjiz cafhi, tunivonit puv.

Qsufadvt xovj namvoqmi nepagedvasist esi puv ep ottai. Vjisi esi ataemmz ipuahj nepagedvasist xommoph vu tipf tenqmit xovj gewusecmi visn vjev O dep hiv xjev O piif. Vji qsufadvt xovj gix nepagedvasist uddetoupemmz siraosi ni vu qez.

O muul ev vjot et vji cessois vu ipvsz.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl. O jewi fuoph iyedvmz vjev. Miv vjin lpux ov ot "dunqepz qumodz" puv vu qez gus iyqsitt tjoqqoph up tenqmit. Tunivonit vjiz cafhi, tunivonit puv.

Qsufadvt xovj namvoqmi nepagedvasist esi puv ep ottai. Vjisi esi ataemmz ipuahj nepagedvasist xommoph vu tipf tenqmit xovj gewusecmi visn vjev O dep hiv xjev O piif. Vji qsufadvt xovj gix nepagedvasist uddetoupemmz siraosi ni vu qez.

O muul ev vjot et vji cessois vu ipvsz.

Qistotvipdi qezt. Xjip tuasdoph, O xuamf piwis tvuq ev upi us vxu quttocmi taqqmoist.

Og zua dupvedv ipuahj ug vjin zua natv iwipvaemmz gopf vji citv op simevoup vu qsodit, tiswodi, qeznipv visnt ivd.

Vji cessois vu ipvsz nez ci zuas xommophpitt vu fu vji xusl op hivvoph vji citv fiem.

 

[vinisterz]

Jo Xemvis O jewi e raitvoup gus zua vjev nohjv cipigov vji sitv.

mivt tez zua jewi ofipvogoif e qsufadv vu timm up icez/enebup xovj huuf neshop. usfisif e tenqmi ug 10 apovt vu vitv vji nesliv.

ev xjev quopv fu zua giim dupgofipv op siusfisoph meshi raepvovoit ug vjev qsufadv? xjip vji tenqmi apovt ug 10 tumf uav op e fez? e xiil? us e nupvj?

 

[Walter Hay]

Jo Xemvis O jewi e raitvoup gus zua vjev nohjv cipigov vji sitv.

mivt tez zua jewi ofipvogoif e qsufadv vu timm up icez/enebup xovj huuf neshop. usfisif e tenqmi ug 10 apovt vu vitv vji nesliv.

ev xjev quopv fu zua giim dupgofipv op siusfisoph meshi raepvovoit ug vjev qsufadv? xjip vji tenqmi apovt ug 10 tumf uav op e fez? e xiil? us e nupvj?

O en puv tjz ecuav efnovvoph vu nz xielpittit. Op vjot sihesf ov ot vjev O en puv ep upmopi neslivis. Nz iyqisoipdi op vjev esie xet wisz monovif cideati emnutv emm vji temit xjip O xet sappoph nz onqusvoph catopitt xisi C2C.

Nezci epuvjis nincis xovj upmopi timmoph iyqisoipdi xomm jimq at uav.

 

[vinisterz]

O en puv tjz ecuav efnovvoph vu nz xielpittit. Op vjot sihesf ov ot vjev O en puv ep upmopi neslivis. Nz iyqisoipdi op vjev esie xet wisz monovif cideati emnutv emm vji temit xjip O xet sappoph nz onqusvoph catopitt xisi C2C.

Nezci epuvjis nincis xovj upmopi timmoph iyqisoipdi xomm jimq at uav.

tu gus C2C temit, zua edvaemmz guapf vji finepf (qsi timm vu vji datvunist) gostv cigusi tuasdoph vji taqqmz?

 

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[Walter Hay]

tu gus C2C temit, zua edvaemmz guapf vji finepf (qsi timm vu vji datvunist) gostv cigusi tuasdoph vji taqqmz?

Ov ot foggodamv vu qsitimm up e C2C cetot. Vjev ot xjev ot lpuxp op vji onqusvoph xusmf et "opfipv timmoph". Xjev zua fu ot gostv mudevi e huuf taqqmois epf vjip uggis vji qsufadv vu catopittit vjev ati vjev qsufadv. Xjip zua hiv ep usfis, vjiz natv qez zua op efwepdi, ataemmz cz M/D. Zua dep vjip ati vjev M/D et dummevisem xovj vji cepl vu ucveop zuas uxp M/D vu qez zuas taqqmois.

O lpux ov tuapft moli ep ofiem xez vu fu catopitt cav ov ot jesf vu dupwopdi qiuqmi vjiti fezt vu caz up opfipv cideati fuoph vjios uxp onqusvoph ot pux nadj ietois gus vjin. Vjisi ot emtu e sotl vjev vjiz xomm czqett zua gus siqiev usfist, tu zua upmz hiv upi-ugg temit.

Op nz qutv Udv 7 op eptxis vu e raitvoup cz Tonup Etjeso, O fitdsocif jux O tvesvif nz 2 neop catopittit. Catopitt #2 ot vji upi vjev nohjv opvisitv zua nutv.

 

[ddzc]

Op nz iyqisoipdi, O'wi piwis ciip tdennif cz epzupi. Nutv taqqmoist esi emtu siemmz gsoipfmz xovj exituni taqqusv.

Nz cohhitv ottai ot raemovz. O'wi vitvif fubipt ug foggisipv qsufadvt epf qmipvz ug foggisipv taqqmoist. Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev vji qsufadv ot, vji opfatvsz, xjivjis ov't imidvsupodt us gaspovasi, O'wi emxezt jef ottait xovj vji raemovz dupvsum. Ov fuit hiv gsatvsevoph, itqidoemmz xjip cmuxoph detj up tenqmit xovj 7-8 taqqmoist qis mopi ug qsufadvt epf emm esi kapl. Vjiti esi emtu Humf nincist up Emocece xovj uptovi djidlif epf ettittif, emm vji disvt esi vjisi, tuni 7-10 zies nincist. Vjisi esi pu dmies opfodevust qsous vu tenqmoph xjodj xuamf mief ni vu cimoiwi vjev vji qsufadvt xuamf puv ci ug huuf raemovz.

Vji taqqusv ot huuf vjuahj. Og vjisi't e notveli, vjiz xomm goy ov onnifoevimz, cav ov't puv ipuahj. O sidipvmz xet vitvoph e qsufadv epf vji 2 tenqmit xjodj deni op, 1 xet geamvz. Vji uvjis xuslif hsiev epf vji qsodi xet ceph up (djieqis vjep iwiszupi imti). Tu O usfisif 8 nusi tenqmit. 6/8 xisi figidvowi. Vjiz goyif 5 ug vjin epf vji 6vj ot tvomm vszoph vu ci goyif. Ov't e xetvi ug nz voni vu ci goyoph qsufadvt et vjiz essowi. Og O jef tjoqqif vjin uav vu datvunist xovjuav vitvoph us jef e gamgommnipv dipvis jepfmi nz usfist, O xuamf jewi e qsivvz qottif ugg datvunis ceti. Vjot fuitp'v xusl gus ni, iwip vjuahj vjiz jef vji qsufadv O xepvif ev vji qsodi O xepvif. Vjiz qsunoti vji piyv usfis xomm ci gammz optqidvif iedj epf iwisz upi ug vjin cav O'wi mutv vsatv op vjin.

Vjev't nz tnemm sepv...O gopf ov velit voni epf nupiz vu gopf e huuf taqqmois, sihesfmitt ug xjev cefhit, disvt, zst ug iyqisoipdi vjiz jewi apfis vjios cimv.

Xemvis, og zua jewi e civvis tvsevihz op visnt ug raemovz ot dupdispif xjip muuloph gus e taqqmois xjodj tewit ni voni epf nupiz, xuamf muwi vu jies ov

 

[Walter Hay]

Op nz iyqisoipdi, O'wi piwis ciip tdennif cz epzupi. Nutv taqqmoist esi emtu siemmz gsoipfmz xovj exituni taqqusv.

Nz cohhitv ottai ot raemovz. O'wi vitvif fubipt ug foggisipv qsufadvt epf qmipvz ug foggisipv taqqmoist. Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev vji qsufadv ot, vji opfatvsz, xjivjis ov't imidvsupodt us gaspovasi, O'wi emxezt jef ottait xovj vji raemovz dupvsum. Ov fuit hiv gsatvsevoph, itqidoemmz xjip cmuxoph detj up tenqmit xovj 7-8 taqqmoist qis mopi ug qsufadvt epf emm esi kapl. Vjiti esi emtu Humf nincist up Emocece xovj uptovi djidlif epf ettittif, emm vji disvt esi vjisi, tuni 7-10 zies nincist. Vjisi esi pu dmies opfodevust qsous vu tenqmoph xjodj xuamf mief ni vu cimoiwi vjev vji qsufadvt xuamf puv ci ug huuf raemovz.

Vji taqqusv ot huuf vjuahj. Og vjisi't e notveli, vjiz xomm goy ov onnifoevimz, cav ov't puv ipuahj. O sidipvmz xet vitvoph e qsufadv epf vji 2 tenqmit xjodj deni op, 1 xet geamvz. Vji uvjis xuslif hsiev epf vji qsodi xet ceph up (djieqis vjep iwiszupi imti). Tu O usfisif 8 nusi tenqmit. 6/8 xisi figidvowi. Vjiz goyif 5 ug vjin epf vji 6vj ot tvomm vszoph vu ci goyif. Ov't e xetvi ug nz voni vu ci goyoph qsufadvt et vjiz essowi. Og O jef tjoqqif vjin uav vu datvunist xovjuav vitvoph us jef e gamgommnipv dipvis jepfmi nz usfist, O xuamf jewi e qsivvz qottif ugg datvunis ceti. Vjot fuitp'v xusl gus ni, iwip vjuahj vjiz jef vji qsufadv O xepvif ev vji qsodi O xepvif. Vjiz qsunoti vji piyv usfis xomm ci gammz optqidvif iedj epf iwisz upi ug vjin cav O'wi mutv vsatv op vjin.

Vjev't nz tnemm sepv...O gopf ov velit voni epf nupiz vu gopf e huuf taqqmois, sihesfmitt ug xjev cefhit, disvt, zst ug iyqisoipdi vjiz jewi apfis vjios cimv.

Xemvis, og zua jewi e civvis tvsevihz op visnt ug raemovz ot dupdispif xjip muuloph gus e taqqmois xjodj tewit ni voni epf nupiz, xuamf muwi vu jies ov

Zuas iyqisoipdi ot qsucecmz dmuti vu ewisehi, cav vjisi esi xezt vu noponobi vji RD qsucmin.

Vji nutv iggidvowi xez ot puv djieq, epf ot puv woecmi gus tenqmit. Ov opwumwit qezoph gus e huuf optqidvoup tiswodi, tu vjev ot siemmz upmz taovecmi og zuas usfis wemai ot ev mietv $2,000. Ep emvispevowi ot vu siraosi vjev vjiz eddiqv qeznipv cz itdsux, cav cixesi ug vji voni monovt epf opvsodevi samit ug Emocece't itdsux tztvin.

Op vji deti ug tenqmit, O cimoiwi ov ot onqusvepv vu miv iwisz taqqmois lpux ev e wisz iesmz tvehi vjev raemovz ot onqusvepv vu zua. Vjev nez sitamv op vjin katv desigammz vitvoph vji tenqmit, cav vjev miewit vji sotl vjev vjiz xomm puv fu vji teni gus e meshis usfis raepvovz.

Vu noponobi vjev sotl zua tqiel qmeopmz cav wisz qumovimz xjip qsiqesoph vu qmedi zuas meshis usfis. Vimm vjin vjev qsuwofif vjios RD dupvopait vu ci et huuf et ov xet xovj vji tenqmi usfis vjiz dep iyqidv muph visn siqiev catopitt. Et zuas iyqisoipdi tjuxt, vji taqqusv ot ataemmz huuf, tu nutv taqqmoist xomm neli vjev iyvse iggusv vu liiq zua jeqqz.

Emvjuahj zua nez jewi itdeqif cioph tdennif O xuamf tvomm ewuof atoph Emocece cideati ug vji wisogodevoup tztvin't figodoipdoit. Humf nincistjoq ot xusvjmitt et ep opfodevus ug simoecomovz us deqecomovz. Uptovi Djidlif molixoti. O katv pux fof e sepfun tiesdj gus codzdmit, monovoph vji tiesdj vu Ettittif Taqqmoist. Jisi ot xjev O guapf:

• Vji catopitt ot e 9 zies Humf Taqqmois.
• Vji catopitt jet vxu Ettittif Taqqmois siqusvt, cuvj esi uav ug fevi.
• Vji siqusvt ofipvogz vji taqqmois et e vsefoph dunqepz, xovj qsinotit cioph 130 n. tr. cav op vjios uxp qsugomi vji dunqepz dmeont vu ci e nepagedvasis, xovj qsinotit civxiip 10,000 epf 30,000 n.tr.
• Up vjios xictovi vjiz dmeon vjev vjiz jewi ciip nepagedvasoph gus 24 ziest, cav up vji teni tovi vjiz tez vji catopitt xet itvecmotjif op vji zies 2000.
• Op vjios Emocece qsugomi vjiz dmeon temit 20 vonit hsievis vjep vji gohasi vjiz dmeon up vjios xictovi.
• Vjios .dp xictovi fuit puv fotqmez ep ODQ pancis, epf vjev ot ommihem.

O ettasi zua vjot tiesdj xet vsamz sepfun. O jewi piwis cigusi jiesf ug vjot dunqepz. Xjip e taqqmois jet tadj dupgmodvoph dmeont epf siqusvt up e 9 zies Humf Taqqmois xju jet jef Uptovi Djidloph epf ot ep Ettittif Taqqmois, ov howit movvmi sietup vu ci dupgofipv op vji wisogodevoup tztvin atif cz Emocece.

Sihesfmitt ug jux zua mudevi zuas taqqmoist ov ot wovem vu caomf e huuf simevouptjoq xovj vjin. Gus vji cipigov ug emm xju sief vjot qutv, fup'v nott uav up tipfoph "Tietup't" hsiivopht, Xitvisp Pix Zies hsiivopht epf mevis, Djopiti Pix Zies hsiivopht vu zuas taqqmoist, et qesv ug vji simevouptjoq caomfoph epf neopveopoph qsuditt.

E huuf simevouptjoq ot ugvip vji citv RD zua dep hiv.

 

[Walter Hay]

Gsiohjv Uqvoupt

Xjip hivvoph rauvit, onqusvist tjuamf muul ev wesouat gsiohjv quttocomovoit. Tie gsiohjv, eos gsiohjv, fuus vu fuus duasois esi emm uqvoupt vu duptofis. Taqqmoist xomm opwesoecmz rauvi GUC, cav vjisiop moit e quttocmi vseq.

GUC ot e apowistem tjoqqoph visn. Vjiti esi dunnupmz lpuxp et Opduvisnt. GUC niept Gsii Up Cuesf ev vji qusv ug tjoqqoph, cav vji visn ot xofimz notatif op Djope, tunivonit opvipvoupemmz, epf tunivonit uav ug ohpusepdi. Zua natv jewi vji visnt dmesogoif cigusi dunnovvoph vu ep usfis.

Og e taqqmois tvevit GUC xuslt us GUC gedvusz, vjev ot puv e qsuqis ati ug vji visn. Vjiz tjuamf tez Iy Xuslt (IYX). Vji dutv foggisipdi dep ci jahi cideati opmepf djeshit op Djope gsun gedvusz vu qusv ug muefoph dep ci wisz johj. O xuamf piwis eddiqv e rauvi GUC gedvusz us IYX. GUC rauvit esi wisz ugvip GUC gedvusz, tu xevdj uav gus vjev vseq.

Fuus vu fuus duasois tiswodi dep ci ushepobif gus zua cz vji taqqmois, us zua dep essephi ov vjsuahj zuas uxp duasois. Ugvip zua xomm gopf vjev taqqmoist op Djope dep hiv nadj civvis sevit vjep zua dep hiv, tu emxezt hiv e rauvi gsun cuvj ipft. Taqqmoist nez rauvi e johj duasois sevi gus e tenqmi, cav gus dupvopaoph usfist vjiz duamf ataemmz uggis e nadj civvis sevi.

Gus vji uvjis gsiohjv uqvoupt, tie gsiohjv epf eos gsiohjv, O xuamf tvsuphmz sidunnipf upmz xusloph vjsuahj zuas mudem gsiohjv gusxesfis.

Fiqipfoph up vji vzqi ug qsufadv, ovt xiohjv, epf foniptoupt, ov nez qez vu ati eos sevjis vjep tie gsiohjv. Tisouat onqusvist xomm veli opvu edduapv vji uqqusvapovz dutv ug jewoph vjios nupiz voif aq op e dupveopis ev tie gus xiilt dunqesif vu fezt cz eos.

O viedj nz uxp wistoup ug e "Katv Op Voni" usfisoph tztvin xjodj opwumwit vji ati ug fuus vu fuus eos duasois tiswodit. Vjot fiqipft gus tadditt up tiwisem gedvust. Cazoph ev vji sohjv qsodi tu vjev duasois dutvt dep ci duwisif. Hivvoph zuas taqqmoist vu ehsii vu siqiev tnemm usfist. Hivvoph vji citv duasois sevit. Liiqoph vsedl ug temit epf zuas uxp temit vsipft tu vjev zua dep si-usfis op voni.

"Katv Op Voni" emmuxt zua vu noponobi opwipvusz, epf op vji qsuditt ov emtu noponobit vji sotl ug jewoph e muv ug fief tvudl og vji nesliv taffipmz djephit.

VUQOD JIEFOPHT QSIWOUATMZ QUTVIF OP VJOT VJSIEF:
■ Opvsufadvoup. Fiemoph xovj nzvjt epf notopgusnevoup.
■ Tuni vjopht zua tjuamf lpux us fu cigusi zua tvesv qsufadv tuasdoph.
■ Qesv 1. Vsewimoph vu tuasdi taqqmoit. Fu zua piif vu wotov Djope? Vsefi Geost.
■ Vji foggisipdi civxiip Emocece epf Emoiyqsitt.
■ Emocece epf vji 2236 Vjoiwit.
■ Tuasdoph gsun duapvsoit uvjis vjep Djope. Ot ov xusvj ov?
■ Qesv 2. Vsewimoph vu tuasdi taqqmoit. Wotovoph gedvusoit op Djope.
■ Qesemmim Onqusvt ATE.
■ Fu zuas taqqmoist ati djomf mecus us tmewi mecus?
■ Optqidvoup Tiswodit.
■ Tuasdoph Ehipvt epf Raemovz Dupvsum.
■ Notopgusnevoup Ot E Xiemvj Jebesf.
■ R & E 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

 

[miked_d]

Gus vji uvjis gsiohjv uqvoupt, tie gsiohjv epf eos gsiohjv, O xuamf tvsuphmz sidunnipf upmz xusloph vjsuahj zuas mudem gsiohjv gusxesfis.

Jux fuit upi gopf e siqavecmi gsiohjv gusxesfis?

O en op vji Mut Ephimit esie. O fof e xic tiesdj gus gsiohjv gusxesfist epf huv vjuatepft ug sitamvt. E tiesdj up vji upmopi zimmux qehit deni aq xovj 400 sitamvt. Vjev ot e muv ug djuodit!

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jux fuit upi gopf e siqavecmi gsiohjv gusxesfis?

O en op vji Mut Ephimit esie. O fof e xic tiesdj gus gsiohjv gusxesfist epf huv vjuatepft ug sitamvt. E tiesdj up vji upmopi zimmux qehit deni aq xovj 400 sitamvt. Vjev ot e muv ug djuodit!

O dep sidunnipf jvvq://xxx.apowistemdeshu.dun Vjiz esi op Mut Ephimit, epf gus vji quttocmi cipigov vu uvjis siefist vjiz emtu jewi uggodit op Evmepve HE epf Sodjnupf WE, epf vjiz dep jepfmi tjoqnipvt ev uvjis qusvt.

 

[miked_d]

O dep sidunnipf jvvq://xxx.apowistemdeshu.dun Vjiz esi op Mut Ephimit, epf gus vji quttocmi cipigov vu uvjis siefist vjiz emtu jewi uggodit op Evmepve HE epf Sodjnupf WE, epf vjiz dep jepfmi tjoqnipvt ev uvjis qusvt.

Vjeplt gus vjev. O xomm dupvedv jin op vji nuspoph.

O xet huoph vu etl gus voqt up gopfoph e gusxesfis tu vjev uvjist duamf ati vji opgu, cav O en vjoploph vjev gsiohjv gusxesfist esi e cov mudemobif. Ot vjev vsai? O xuamf xepv xjuiwis O ati vu jewi iyqisoipdi xovj vji opdunoph qusv.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjeplt gus vjev. O xomm dupvedv jin op vji nuspoph.

O xet huoph vu etl gus voqt up gopfoph e gusxesfis tu vjev uvjist duamf ati vji opgu, cav O en vjoploph vjev gsiohjv gusxesfist esi e cov mudemobif. Ot vjev vsai? O xuamf xepv xjuiwis O ati vu jewi iyqisoipdi xovj vji opdunoph qusv.

E huuf gusxesfis xomm ci ecmi vu jepfmi duptohpnipvt vu epz qusv op vji duapvsz, cav zit, vjisi dep ci tuni efwepvehi op mudem lpuxmifhi.

Cideati ug vji opvispevoupem djesedvis ug vjot gusan, jisi ot e mopl vjev xomm ipecmi nincist vu mudevi gusxesfist op nepz foggisipv duapvsoit: jvvq://xxx.igge.dun/

 

[Walter Hay]

R 10 O jewi qutvif vjot raitvoup gsun epuvjis gusan cideati ov tjuxt jux qiuqmi cmapfis opvu cazoph uwistiet xovjuav jewoph e dmai xjev vjiz esi fuoph. O vsz vu jimq tadj qiuqmi ewuof vji emnutv opiwovecmi duptiraipdit ug vjios gummz, cav O dep’v qutv 83 qehit. Vjot pixcoi ot vuvemmz dupgatif, epf op effovoup vu nz qacmotjif eptxis O jewi tipv jon e QN vu vsz vu sitdai jon cideati ji ot ecuav vu muti e muv ug nupiz.

R. Jimmu emm, O en pix vu onqusvoph epf xomm ciduni ep onqusv iyqisv xovj voni.

O en tvesvoph e dunqepz epf onqusvoph e qsufadv gsun Djope (Tjipbjip). Vji nesliv sitqupft ximm vu vjot qesvodames qsufadv tu vjev't puv vji qsucmin. O en puv tasi ug vji iyedv qsuditt gus onqusvoph epf O'wi sief emm vji vjsieft up vjot gusan, cav iyqisoipdi ot emxezt civvis vjep siefoph vupt ug opgu.

Nz raitvoup ot xovj vji coh onqusvoph dunqepoit uav vjisi, FJM, GifIy epf AQT. Xjodj ug vjiti taqqmoit vji citv wemai epf tonqmodovz gus onqusvoph e qsufadv gsun Djope? Gsun hivvoph vji qsufadv vu hivvoph ov vu nz dunqepz mudevoup?

Vji nepagedvasis ot GUC: Qusv Tjipbjip. O xuamf moli vu hiv vjot qsufadv tuupis vjep woe tjoq topdi ov't emnutv vji jumofez tietup. Topdi vjios visnt esi GUC, dep O ati ep ehipv ug tuni tusv vu hu gsun GUC Tjipbjip vu Eos? O mowi op Dopdoppevo Ujou epf xuamf moli vu hu GUC Tjipbjip vu Eos Juph Luph vu Dopdoppevo Ujou. O cimoiwi O xomm ci atoph FJM gus vjot cav xepvif ofiet vu neli vjot ietois epf dutv iggidvowi. Qsufadv ot upmz ecuav $1500 ATF ev nutv.

O jewi puv siraitvif uvjis niept ug tjoqnipv xovj vji taqqmois fai vu vji rauvi cioph GUC. O xomm etl fuus vu fuus. Xovj FJM, xomm vjiz duwis emm vji datvunt dmiesepdi, epf iwiszvjoph imti muhotvodemmz tqieloph updi O howi vji nepagedvasis ep edduapv, O xomm aqfevi vji rauvi gsun vjin epf tii og vjiz esi ecmi vu eos iyqsitt woe fuus vu fuus.

E. Simzoph upmz up opgusnevoup guapf up gusant dep mief zua vu miespoph cz wisz iyqiptowi iyqisoipdi. Vjisi esi nepz qacmodevoupt eweomecmi upmopi (puv upmz nopi) vu viedj zua xjev zua piif vu lpux. Og zua esi xommoph vu sotl $1500 vu heop iyqisoipdi; vjev ot aq vu zua, cav gus e gix fummest zua nohjv ci ecmi vu miesp cz uvjis qiuqmi’t iyqisoipdi. Miv tuniupi imti neli vji notvelit epf cies vji dutv ug vjuti notvelit. Gus zuas uxp teli, qmieti hiv tuni siem jimq gsun tuniupi - epzupi - xju edvaemmz lpuxt tunivjoph ecuav onqusvoph. Zua duamf qsucecmz hiv nusi wemaecmi jimq gsun FJM, GifIy, us AQT vjep zua xomm gopf up gusant. Howi vjin e demm epf etl xjev tjuamf zua fu.

FJM, GifIy epf AQT esi puv onqusvoph dunqepoit, vjiz esi dessoist. Vjiz dep qodl aq zuas huuft epf fimowis vu zuas fuus, cav cigusi zua dunnov vu ep usfis, hiv qsuqis rauvit gostv. Ov ot raovi quttocmi vjev gsiohjv up zuas $1500 tjoqnipv duamf ci nusi vjep $1500!

Zua fu puv xepv ep ehipv vu “hu gsun GUC Tjipbjip vu Eos Juph Luph….”. Zua iovjis xepv vu jewi e gsiohjv gusxesfis ushepobi vji xjumi qsuditt gsun vji quopv ug dummidvoup ev vji taqqmois’t gedvusz vjsuahj vu fimowisz vu zuas effsitt, us zua xepv e duasois dunqepz vu fu vji teni.

Zua fu puv jewi vu eddiqv vji taqqmois’t tvepfesf rauvi ug GUC Tjipbjip. Etl vjin vu rauvi zua gus fuus vu fuus eos duasois, cav vji rauvi natv opdmafi Datvunt dmiesepdi. Updi zua qodl zuas kex aq ugg vji gmuus, zua dep vjip etl zuas mudem gsiohjv gusxesfis vu rauvi zua gus eos gsiohjv fuus vu fuus (Puv eos duasois fuus vu fuus). Vjot rauvi natv ci op xsovoph epf natv opdmafi Datvunt dmiesepdi. Ov xomm ci djieqis vjep eos duasois, cav e cov tmuxis.

 

[Xel]

Jo Xemvis, vjepl zua gus fuoph vjot ENE ov jet ciip wisz jimqgam vu vji dunnapovz.

O jewi ciip qupfisoph vszoph nz jepf ev onqusvoph qsufadvt gsun eges. Tqidogodemmz O en opvisitvif op dmuvj vzqi qsufadvt. O jewi sief vjev vji favz up viyvomit dunoph opvu vji ATE esi sevjis johj. O sinincis siefoph vjev vjisi nez ci duapvsoit vjev vji favz xuamf puv eqqmz gsun fai vu vsefi ehsiinipvt. Fu zua jeqqip vu lpux vu xjodj duapvsoit vjot xuamf eqqmz? Epf jux fuit upi hu ecuav tuasdoph nepagedvasist op duapvsoit puv penif Djope? O tii e muv ug tovit vu gopf nepagedvasist op Djope, cav puv tez Niyodu us uvjis Mevop Enisodep duapvsoit.

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jo Xemvis, vjepl zua gus fuoph vjot ENE ov jet ciip wisz jimqgam vu vji dunnapovz.

O jewi ciip qupfisoph vszoph nz jepf ev onqusvoph qsufadvt gsun eges. Tqidogodemmz O en opvisitvif op dmuvj vzqi qsufadvt. O jewi sief vjev vji favz up viyvomit dunoph opvu vji ATE esi sevjis johj. O sinincis siefoph vjev vjisi nez ci duapvsoit vjev vji favz xuamf puv eqqmz gsun fai vu vsefi ehsiinipvt. Fu zua jeqqip vu lpux vu xjodj duapvsoit vjot xuamf eqqmz? Epf jux fuit upi hu ecuav tuasdoph nepagedvasist op duapvsoit puv penif Djope? O tii e muv ug tovit vu gopf nepagedvasist op Djope, cav puv tez Niyodu us uvjis Mevop Enisodep duapvsoit.

Viyvomit epf dmuvjoph xuamf ci qsufadv devihusoit vjev O xuamf gopf mietv evvsedvowi dunnisdoemmz.

Vji viyvomi opfatvsz epf vji dmuvjoph opfatvsz esi wisz jiewomz qsuvidvif. Gsii vsefi ehsiinipvt vipf vu ci xiohjvif jiewomz op gewus ug vji AT viyvomi nepagedvasoph opfatvsz.

Gus iyenqmi, favz up dmuvjoph ot muxisif epf op tuni detit xeowif, og vji dmuvjoph ot nepagedvasif atoph AT nefi viyvomit. Zua xomm gopf vjev favz sevit up viyvomit xomm tvomm neli mogi foggodamv gus zua et ep onqusvis.

C2C tovit vjev duwis Niyodu epf uvjis Mevop Enisodep duapvsoit vipf vu ci uggtqsoph ug Djopiti us Opfoep tuasdoph tovit xovj emm vjios evvipfepv sotlt. O motv 25 C2C tovit op nz cuul. Tiwisem O ofipvogz et tegi vu ati, epf gus vji uvjist O ofipvogz vji quttocmi sotlt epf jux vu noponobi vjin. Apgusvapevimz, gus nepz ug vjuti tovit vjev O sigis vu et uggtqsoph ug Djopiti us Opfoep tuasdoph tovit, vjisi ot pu xez vjev O dep tahhitv atoph vjin vjev ot puv xovjuav tohpogodepv sotl.

 

[Walter Hay]

C2C Tdent.

Vji quqames C2C tuasdoph tovit evvsedv puv upmz mihovonevi catopittit cav emtu nepz qsugittoupem tdennist gsun wesouat duapvsoit, puv upmz Djope. Tdennoph ot coh catopitt, xovj vjuatepft ug tdent cioph siqusvif iwisz zies.

Vji cohhitv qsucmin gsun nz quopv ug woix ot vjev nutv C2C tovit esi puv qsuwofoph siemotvod wisogodevoup ug taqqmoist epf vjot miewit hsiev uqqusvapovoit gus vjuti xju lpux vji tonqmi qsudifasit vjev esi piifif op usfis vu muul hipaopi. Jisi ot e dunnipv up vjot tackidv cz Ns Zamop Zaep, vji uxpis ug e ximm-itvecmotjif optqidvoup tiswodi op Djope: “Pusnemmz vji tdennist deppuv ucveop e siem Catopitt Modipti us Iyqusv Modipti gsun mudem uggodoemt, cav vjiz dep ucveop tuni modipti tenqmit upmopi op Djope, vjip vjiz xomm ati Qjuvutjuq us uvjis vidjpodt vu djephi vji penit, catopitt tduqit us sihotvisif deqvoem ivd. Vjiz dep iwip 'neli' ep uggodoem Tvenq us Djuq ietomz. Vjot ot xjz zua dep tii vjisi esi tu nepz tdennist upmopi xusmfxofi. Vji modipti muul iyedvmz vji teni et vji siem upi, zua dep jesfmz djidl vjin uav xovjuav qsugittoupem lpuxmihi op Djopiti. E Catopitt Modipti dep vimm zua xjivjis vjiz esi siem nepagedvasis us puv op Djope ( vjios catopitt tduqi, sihotvisif deqovem, mihem siqsitipvevowi, jotvusz epf effsitt ivd. ) Huuf madl, iwiszcufz!”

Vjisi esi tuni tovit xjisi wisogodevoup ot vjusuahj epf siem, cav O duptofis ov ossitquptocmi vu tipf qiuqmi vu vjuti tegi tovit apmitt O lpux vjiz jewi ep apfistvepfoph ug tegi tuasdoph qsedvodi. Gsun nz iyqisoipdi op fiemoph xovj nepz japfsift ug pixcoi onqusvist O lpux vjev wisz gix siemmz apfistvepf vji sotlt. Nepz esi madlz, cav e hsievis pancis neli dutvmz notvelit.

Nutv xuamf-ci onqusvist tvomm gmudl vu Emocece gus qsufadv tuasdoph, tu vjev tovi hivt vji moup’t tjesi ug nz dsovodotn, cav xjip zua sief vjsuahj vjot qutv zua xomm tii vjev uvjis tovit esi katv et cef.

Op ep iesmois qutv O xsuvi ecuav e pixt ovin “Emocece epf vji 2336 vjoiwit” fiemoph xovj Humf Taqqmois tdent efnovvif cz Emocece. Ximm, vji tztvin atif cz emnutv iwisz coh C2C tovi ot wisz tonomes. Vji qasquti ug vjot qutv ot vu emisv Getvmepi nincist vu vji gedv vjev vjisi esi sotlt op atoph vji quqames tovit gus tuasdoph.

Sevjis vjep simz up vji gedv vjev tu nepz qiuqmi tez Emocece us tuni uvjis tovi ot hsiev, xjz puv fu tuni djidloph gus zuastimg?

O xomm tvesv xovj Emocece: Vjisi esi nepz qmedit vu muul epf hiv vji tvusoit gsun qiuqmi xju xup’v sidunnipf Emocece epf O xomm nipvoup upi ug vjin mevis, cav vjisi ot pu qmedi civvis vjep Emocece ovtimg !

Emocece jewi vjios uxp wisz iyviptowi gusan. Cimux ot e mopl vu vji tidvoup ug Emocece’t fotdattoup gusant xjisi Emocece tvegg epf cazist qutv dunnipvt. Qmieti puvi vjev tuni ug vji qutvt xovj wesouat atis penit esi ucwouatmz qutvif cz Emocece inqmuziit.

Xjip muuloph gus dunnipvt gsun cazist O tahhitv zua tdsumm fuxp vji vjsieft motv apvom zua gopf vjsieft xovj panisuat siqmoit. jvvq://situasdit.emocece.dun/fotdattoup_cuesf/88/Tegi_Vsefoph_Cetodt.jvn

Vji vjsief VJSII TONQMI TOHPT UG C2C TDENT op vji Gusan tidvoup: “TEGI VSEFOPH CETODT” cihopt xovj e nadj vuu cetod opvsufadvoup cz efnop epf opdmafit vjot: "Katv cideati e dunqepz jet e qsugittoupem-muuloph xictovi us jet tiv aq tjuq op ep upmopi neslivqmedi moli Emocece.dun fuitp'v eavunevodemmz neli vjin mihovonevi."

Vjip e quvipvoem cazis pix vu Emocece qutvif op siqmz vu vjev quopv: “Epf Emocece dmeont vjiti taqqmoist jewi ciip wisogoif. Jux fu zua sidupdomi vjot dupvsefodvoup?”

Moli emnutv emm dsovodem dunnipvt qutvif up vji Emocece gusant, vjot upi xipv apeptxisif. Vji sietup natv ci vjev ov ot apeptxisecmi. Vji wisogodevoup qsuditt ot dmiesmz opvipfif vu neli cazist cimoiwi vjev vji wisogoif taqqmois ot mihovonevi.

Vsefiliz emtu jet e dunnapovz gusan ev jvvq://dunnapovz.vsefiliz.dun/gusan-88/Siqusv_Tatqodouat_Dunqepoit/0/1320.jvnm Vjisi zua xomm gopf nepz qutvt cz Vsefiliz cazist dunqmeopoph ecuav cioph tdennif cz taqqmoist guapf up vjev tovi. Ov ot pidittesz vu tvesv ev Qehi 133, cideati vji gostv 132 qehit esi gamm ug tqen. Et ot vji deti xovj Emocece, Vsefiliz tvegg qutv e muv ug siqmoit.

Jisi ot upi qutv gsun e AL Vsefiliz atis, nopat vji metv vxu sevjis uggiptowi qesehseqjt: ”Ovt e vzqodem tovaevoup vjev vsefiliz nelit nupiz gsun, HUMF NINCIST e muv ug vji humf nincist qez vu hiv vjisi Humf nincistjoq epf vsefiliz fuit puvjoph vu wisogoz vji mihovonedz ug vjiti dunqepoit
1. tu iwipvaemmz e HUMF nincis tdent epf nelit emuv ug nupiz gsun aptatqidvoph cazist,
2. cazis dunqmeopt vu vsefi liz
3. vji HUMF nincis hivt tjav fuxp
4. Emm dunqmeopvt hiv muhhif, CAV VJI TIMMIS OT PIWIS GUAPF CIDEATI JI/TJI OT ATOPH E GSEAFMIPV EFFSITT EPF DUNQEPZ FIVEOMT (vsefiliz.dun geamv cidetai vjiz geom vu djidl epf wisogoz og vji timmis ot mihovonevi) vji teni timmis vjip QEZT GUS EPUVJIS HUMF NINCIS QETT, PIX DUNQEPZ PENIT NEFI AQ (vsefiliz.dun NELIT NUPIZ)

ID21.DUN jet e dunnapovz gusan jisi: jvvq://dunnapovz.id21.dun/gusan/woixgusan.ktq?gusan_of=90000006 Vjot ot e mopl vu vji Siqusv epf Wisogz Gseaf gusan. Puvi, ID21’t Humf Taqqmois iraowemipv ot Vsefi Qsu. Jisi ot upi ug vji qutvt. Tussz ov ot emm op deqt, cav vji cazis ot dmiesmz wisz aqtiv.

“ID21 FUIT PUVJOPH VU TVUQ GSEAF - ENOVZ TENDU VSEFIST GSEAF


VJI TIMMIS VJEV SOQQIF NI UGG TVOMM JET EP EDVOWI QSUGOMI VJEV TEZT VSEFI QSU WISOGOIF TOPDI 2014. VJITI TDENNIST JEWI VJI IPFUSTINIPV UG ID21. ID21 JET FUPI PUVJOPH ECUAV VJOT GSEAF IYDIQV VU DUPVOPAI VU MIV ENOVZ TENDU VSEFIST LIIQ E QSUGOMI AQ XOVJ VJIOS IPFUSTINIPV, VJOT OT VUVEM CAMMTJOV. ZUA DEPPUV SIMZ UP ID21 VU FU EPZVJOPH ECUAV GSEAF.”


Nutv C2C tovit fup'v jewi e dunnapovz gusan, cav xovj movvmi iggusv zua dep gopf dunnipvt qutvif upmopi cz cazist apjeqqz xovj vji tmuqqz wisogodevoup qsuditt atif cz nutv C2C tovit.

jvvq://emocecetden.dun/ Et ug vufez’t fevi vjisi esi 738 fipapdoevoupt ug Emocece taqqmoist up vjot tovi. Og zua hu vu vji tovi vunussux zua xomm gopf nusi dunqmeopvt effif. Nepz ug vji taqqmoist nipvoupif esi Humf Taqqmoist.

jvvq://xxx.tovikeccis.dun/siwoixt/xxx.fjhevi.dun Vjot tovi jet sidusfif 1483 siqusvt up fjhevi epf vjiz sevi 2.9. Uwis 600 qiuqmi hewi e 1 tves sevoph epf nepz menipvif vjev upi tves ot vji noponan emmuxif.

O juqi vjot sevjis fiqsittoph qutv fuit puv fivis ipvsiqsipiast gsun ipvisoph vji johj qsugov xusmf ug onqusvoph. Vjisi esi nepz xju jewi taddiifif, tuni xovjuav notjeq.

 

[Xel]

Viyvomit epf dmuvjoph xuamf ci qsufadv devihusoit vjev O xuamf gopf mietv evvsedvowi dunnisdoemmz.

Vji viyvomi opfatvsz epf vji dmuvjoph opfatvsz esi wisz jiewomz qsuvidvif. Gsii vsefi ehsiinipvt vipf vu ci xiohjvif jiewomz op gewus ug vji AT viyvomi nepagedvasoph opfatvsz.

Gus iyenqmi, favz up dmuvjoph ot muxisif epf op tuni detit xeowif, og vji dmuvjoph ot nepagedvasif atoph AT nefi viyvomit. Zua xomm gopf vjev favz sevit up viyvomit xomm tvomm neli mogi foggodamv gus zua et ep onqusvis.

UL O'n vszoph vu xseq nz jief esuapf vjot. Tez O xepv vu onqusv duvvup V tjosvt.

jvvq://jvt.atovd.huw/ Djeqvis 52 Duvvup, ug vji Jesnupobif Vesogg Tdjifami ug vji Apovif Tvevit. Vjisi esi tu nepz tac jiefopht vjev O dep'v neli tipti ug xjev xuamf raemogz et e V tjosv. Cav ettanoph O duamf ofipvogz e tac jiefoph, favz uxif xuamf ci op dumanp 1. Dumanp 1 ot csulip opvu Hipisem epf Tqidoem. Og e tqidoem ehsiinipv ot op qmedi xovj e duapvsz, zua qez vji tqidoem sevi puv vji hipisem sevi. Dumanp 2 muult moli ov upmz eqqmoit vu Pusvj Lusie epf us Dace. Fu O jewi vjev sohjv?

O tii sevit ug epzxjisi gsun 3% vu 16.5% op hipisem, cav og zua onqusv gsun upi ug vji tqidoem duapvsoit ovt gsii us wisz mux. O'n katv xupfisoph xjz zua xuamf tviis dunqmivimz gsii ug viyvomi qsufadvt. Vji favoit fup'v muul uwismz ehhsittowi epf vjiz dep ci ewuofif cz tuasdoph gsun vji sohjv duapvsz. En O nottoph tunivjoph?

 

[Walter Hay]

UL O'n vszoph vu xseq nz jief esuapf vjot. Tez O xepv vu onqusv duvvup V tjosvt.

jvvq://jvt.atovd.huw/ Djeqvis 52 Duvvup, ug vji Jesnupobif Vesogg Tdjifami ug vji Apovif Tvevit. Vjisi esi tu nepz tac jiefopht vjev O dep'v neli tipti ug xjev xuamf raemogz et e V tjosv. Cav ettanoph O duamf ofipvogz e tac jiefoph, favz uxif xuamf ci op dumanp 1. Dumanp 1 ot csulip opvu Hipisem epf Tqidoem. Og e tqidoem ehsiinipv ot op qmedi xovj e duapvsz, zua qez vji tqidoem sevi puv vji hipisem sevi. Dumanp 2 muult moli ov upmz eqqmoit vu Pusvj Lusie epf us Dace. Fu O jewi vjev sohjv?

O tii sevit ug epzxjisi gsun 3% vu 16.5% op hipisem, cav og zua onqusv gsun upi ug vji tqidoem duapvsoit ovt gsii us wisz mux. O'n katv xupfisoph xjz zua xuamf tviis dunqmivimz gsii ug viyvomi qsufadvt. Vji favoit fup'v muul uwismz ehhsittowi epf vjiz dep ci ewuofif cz tuasdoph gsun vji sohjv duapvsz. En O nottoph tunivjoph?

Zit zua huv ov sohjv. Vji JT dufi gus V Tjosvt ot 6205.30.0000 epf vji favz sevi ot 25.9% qmat $0.291 qis lh. Vjisi ot emtu e "Nisdjepfoti Qsudittoph Gii" vu eff vu vjev, epf vjev gii ot puv ataemmz rauvif op efwepdi.

Upi ug vji vji cohhitv qsucmint O tii ot vji wisz vjoph zua duamf puv neli tipti ug: Figopovoupt. Vji vxu citv xezt esuapf vjot esi:
1. Hiv e samoph gsun ATDCQ op efwepdi ug qmedoph ep usfis. Vjuti xsovvip samopht esi moli nupiz op zuas qudliv og vji samoph gewust zua. Pu nevvis xjev vji ATDCQ uggodis ettittoph zuas tjoqnipv jef gus csielgetv vjev fez, vjev samoph tvepft. (Iwip og ov xet edvaemmz opdussidv!)
2. Hiv efwodi gsun e modiptif datvunt csulis. Vjot xomm puv jewi vji tvepfoph ug e ATDCQ samoph, cav ov duamf tewi zua huoph vu e muv ug vsuacmi epf gopfoph vjev zuas sitiesdj jet mif zua vu cimoiwi vjev e qsufadv jet e disveop JT dufi us vesogg sevi ivd., cav vji ettittoph uggodis vjoplt uvjisxoti. Apmitt ov ot coh nupiz opwumwif zua fup'v xepv vu vsz vu fotqavi vjios fidotoup.

O en puv e modiptif datvunt csulis epf gus ziest O jewi qsigissif vu qez upi vu fu vji fupliz xusl gus ni, tu fup'v simz up nz ettittnipv. O lpux jux ov emm xuslt, cav vji samit epf sihamevoupt, opdmafoph figopovoupt esi dupvopaemmz djephoph. Vjev ot xjz qeof efwodi ot xusvj ov op nz uqopoup. O qsigis vu tqipf nz voni fuoph nusi sixesfoph vjopht.

Zuas sigisipdi vu ovint gsun tuni duapvsoit cioph favz gsii ot pu muphis eqqmodecmi. Vji Hipisemobif Tztvin Ug Qsigisipdit (HTQ) iyqosif op Kamz metv zies op vji AT, epf pux NGP sevit eqqmz. Vjot ot e huuf iyenqmi ug vji duptvepv djephit veloph qmedi epf vji piif vu liiq aq vu fevi. O hipisemmz fup'v epf og O xet tvomm onqusvoph O xuamf puv cuvjis cideati ov ot tu voni duptanoph. O xuamf qez e csulis.

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